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Post by CantStopLovingU Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:07 am

From what I read even under refridgeration a body decomposes alot after 2 months. SOmeone metioned that a photo will get leaked and I think they are right on the money with that one.

They are already saying on TV that there will be an open casket ... Hmmm

Please MArlon tell us how a make up artist can make a body that has been passed away for 2 months look good enough for an open casket!!
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Post by DreamChild Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:09 am

~Also please tell me why I just made a comment here on another Thread Topic and mentioned about the Face supposedly "Colapsing" because of the Riving attempts and now suddenly there's a News Article about it?~


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Post by neverlandsfairy Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:11 am

I DONT WANT SEE A 2 MONTHS AND HALF DECESEAD BODY!

WHY THEY DID NOT SHOWED HIM ON THE MEMORIAL
, when was still, a bit early?When we´d had not dragged so much suffering and doubts for so long?When our strenght was not drained on ups and downs?

IM Shivering and my heart is pumping insanely out of compass.I even can not cry, since Im too much anxious!

I THOUGHT HIS FACE WAS DAMAGED WITH CPR,
so badly looking we could not see him!
Now they hire this make up artist.SO WHY NOT FOR THE MEMORIAL?And now, when his decaying!

IT JUST HAS AN EXPLANATION:THEY WANT TO FORCE US BELIEVE TO BE MICHAEL!

I know its sick, but maybe they will use prothetics make up on the body as the Ghost movie one, to makes JOSEPH looks as JOE!Disgusting?Absurd?Far fetched?
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NO! For GOD SAKE, if they can record a reallity show during a burial, they can really use HOLLYWOOD MAKE UP on a dead body!

They are SICK! Sad

We really need to ask why, why, why now?


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Post by kdkennedy74 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:11 am

WOW! Can make up hide decomposition? So are they saying they are basically going to use putty to fill him in and then make him up? That is sick!! Those poor children having to see their father like that!
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:13 am

where is the link saying that an open casket has been confirmed?
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Post by MJFOREVER Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:14 am

You got a link where the report that it will be an open casket?
At the memorial the also would have an open casket right(correct me if im wrong)
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OMG i have a huge headache and all this crazy news only making it worse dammit Neutral
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Post by MJfan777 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:15 am

no press.
who can prove that?

bullshit Rolling Eyes
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Post by emanviam Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:15 am

CantStopLovingU wrote:From what I read even under refridgeration a body decomposes alot after 2 months. SOmeone metioned that a photo will get leaked and I think they are right on the money with that one.

They are already saying on TV that there will be an open casket ... Hmmm

Please MArlon tell us how a make up artist can make a body that has been passed away for 2 months look good enough for an open casket!!

Girls...they can embalm a body and that body can be seen after decades and it will be the same....

I believe that's what they did with Michael, so they can actually see him today...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embalming

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Post by DreamChild Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:16 am

~Make-Up Can Also Be Applied to "Dummies" and "Mannequins"~







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Post by DreamChild Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:17 am

~You Cannot,However,Embalm A LIVING Michael~ I love you
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Post by phoenix Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:18 am

emanviam wrote:
CantStopLovingU wrote:From what I read even under refridgeration a body decomposes alot after 2 months. SOmeone metioned that a photo will get leaked and I think they are right on the money with that one.

They are already saying on TV that there will be an open casket ... Hmmm

Please MArlon tell us how a make up artist can make a body that has been passed away for 2 months look good enough for an open casket!!

Girls...they can embalm a body and that body can be seen after decades and it will be the same....

I believe that's what they did with Michael, so they can actually see him today...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embalming

Sad

okay i know what you mean because when i was 3 years old i saw Lenins body in Kreml, Moscaw

but i tell you what- i dont believe that its going to be Michael in the cascet- open or close : its not him...
look how many things does not make sence, everything since 25.06 is too strange - we cant give up the hope now guys....they showed us the ambulance pic and it was fake too so why should i believe that one?
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Post by ~~Kristy~~ Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:19 am

Well said phoenix!!!!
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Post by kdkennedy74 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:20 am

If this is true then maybe, just maybe, the thread yesterday that got us all so heated from "forrestlawn" was a clue. I may be way off on this but none of us had mentioned anything about an open casket until after that.


HMMMMMM!!!!

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Post by CantStopLovingU Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:20 am

Sorry I do not have a link, I had TV Guide Channel on and they had someone who gave an update on the burial. The said it was private, ect ect and that there would be an open casket.

Even the commentators said that was somewhat disturning to hear because it has been more than 2 months.

My take on this is that somehow a picture will be leaked and that the family will do whatever they have to do to convince the world that Michael is gone - they will leak the picture and I think it will be a wax figure of some kind.

i wonder how long a perfect wax figure takes to create? That might explain the delay in the burial
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Post by kdkennedy74 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:22 am

CantStopLovingU wrote:Sorry I do not have a link, I had TV Guide Channel on and they had someone who gave an update on the burial. The said it was private, ect ect and that there would be an open casket.

Even the commentators said that was somewhat disturning to hear because it has been more than 2 months.

My take on this is that somehow a picture will be leaked and that the family will do whatever they have to do to convince the world that Michael is gone - they will leak the picture and I think it will be a wax figure of some kind.

i wonder how long a perfect wax figure takes to create? That might explain the delay in the burial

Excellent point!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by CantStopLovingU Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:22 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:If this is true then maybe, just maybe, the thread yesterday that got us all so heated from "forrestlawn" was a clue. I may be way off on this but none of us had mentioned anything about an open casket until after that.


HMMMMMM!!!!

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You should feel free to speculate without fear of being hit by things Suspect
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Post by Kario Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:24 am

Hi,
I'm new here:)
I dont think that they will show the casket open,because at the memorial the casket wasnt open either.
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Post by neverlandsfairy Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:25 am

If it to be true, except for the angelical kids, Janet, Rebbie and Kate...THEY SHOULD change their name for the JACKASS@@@LES! sorry for the bad word, but I can not control myself!I WANNA PUNCH THEM SO BADLY!

GOD HAVE MERCY OF THESE CHILDREN, my prays constantly for them!What a painful experience to carry on for their rest of lives!Any psychologist nearly graduated and without experience, would YELL SO MUCH ALOUD:HELL NO!

Sweet Jesus, our hearts with you during this tough day, hold your beloved son on your arms!
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Post by MichelleMissesMJ Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:25 am

lets just ait and see. i want to see the pic if one comes out.
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:26 am

CantStopLovingU wrote:Sorry I do not have a link, I had TV Guide Channel on and they had someone who gave an update on the burial. The said it was private, ect ect and that there would be an open casket.

Even the commentators said that was somewhat disturning to hear because it has been more than 2 months.

My take on this is that somehow a picture will be leaked and that the family will do whatever they have to do to convince the world that Michael is gone - they will leak the picture and I think it will be a wax figure of some kind.

i wonder how long a perfect wax figure takes to create? That might explain the delay in the burial

it can hardly be a private event when tv channels will stream live and a production crew will be there to record (and those recordings will be aired in some documentary).
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Post by CantStopLovingU Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:26 am

phoenix wrote:
emanviam wrote:
CantStopLovingU wrote:From what I read even under refridgeration a body decomposes alot after 2 months. SOmeone metioned that a photo will get leaked and I think they are right on the money with that one.

They are already saying on TV that there will be an open casket ... Hmmm

Please MArlon tell us how a make up artist can make a body that has been passed away for 2 months look good enough for an open casket!!

Girls...they can embalm a body and that body can be seen after decades and it will be the same....

I believe that's what they did with Michael, so they can actually see him today...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embalming

Sad

okay i know what you mean because when i was 3 years old i saw Lenins body in Kreml, Moscaw

but i tell you what- i dont believe that its going to be Michael in the cascet- open or close : its not him...
look how many things does not make sence, everything since 25.06 is too strange - we cant give up the hope now guys....they showed us the ambulance pic and it was fake too so why should i believe that one?

Most bodies are embalmed - that doesnt mean that they dont decompose. I have to find the article I read - Of course embalming slows down the process, but doesnt stop it.

Last year there was an art exhibit in my city that caused a lot of controversy. The reason why was instead of embalming fliud, the artist took a human body an filled it with some sort of plastic instead of the embalming fluid. This prevented the body from decomposing - and he had them on exhibit! They school my son went to wanted us to sign a special permission slip for them to go and I said no!
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:26 am

^ yeah, the "bodies" exhibition. Michael also went to that exhibition in las vegas last year Smile
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Post by CantStopLovingU Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:28 am

neverlandsfairy wrote: I DONT WANT SEE A 2 MONTHS AND HALF DECESEAD BODY!

WHY THEY DID NOT SHOWED HIM ON THE MEMORIAL
, when was still, a bit early?When we´d had not dragged so much suffering and doubts for so long?When our strenght was not drained on ups and downs?

IM Shivering and my heart is pumping insanely out of compass.I even can not cry, since Im too much anxious!

I THOUGHT HIS FACE WAS DAMAGED WITH CPR,
so badly looking we could not see him!
Now they hire this make up artist.SO WHY NOT FOR THE MEMORIAL?And now, when his decaying!

IT JUST HAS AN EXPLANATION:THEY WANT TO FORCE US BELIEVE TO BE MICHAEL!

I know its sick, but maybe they will use prothetics make up on the body as the Ghost movie one, to makes JOSEPH looks as JOE!Disgusting?Absurd?Far fetched?
Sad
NO! For GOD SAKE, if they can record a reallity show during a burial, they can really use HOLLYWOOD MAKE UP on a dead body!

They are SICK! Sad

We really need to ask why, why, why now?

THANK YOU!!!!

Even if the CPR damaged his face story was true - WHERE WAS the Special Super Dooper Make Up artist then??
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Post by Ivonne Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:28 am

I will put my alarm clock for tomorrow night. I hope I wake up.

Whether the coffin is opened, well because everything can be possible
in there. Why do they want to show now, MJ? It was told, his face would
be damaged ... Now his face is not damaged? There were formerly no
people of that would have a make-up can be repaired?

I will pay attention to the reactions of the mourners. Specifically, I will pay attention to the reactions of his family.
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Post by Grace Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:28 am

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Post by mommy Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:30 am

Just heard on the news in DK that they have helicopters with heat detectors in the air to make sure that nobody is hiding within the gates... How desperate can one get???
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Post by mommy Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:31 am

Grace wrote:I really don't know whether I should laugh or cry or fly over there to give them a lesson in manners.

The only thing I know for sure is that Madame Tussaud's exchanged some of the wax puppets after 06/25.
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by kdkennedy74 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:33 am

mommy wrote:Just heard on the news in DK that they have helicopters with heat detectors in the air to make sure that nobody is hiding within the gates... How desperate can one get???

I heard on CNN this morning that they would be there but would only be able to see the family come and go and that they wouldn't have any aerial footage because there is a "no fly zone" in force there.
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Post by yaya Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:34 am

CantStopLovingU wrote:Sorry I do not have a link, I had TV Guide Channel on and they had someone who gave an update on the burial. The said it was private, ect ect and that there would be an open casket.

Even the commentators said that was somewhat disturning to hear because it has been more than 2 months.

My take on this is that somehow a picture will be leaked and that the family will do whatever they have to do to convince the world that Michael is gone - they will leak the picture and I think it will be a wax figure of some kind.

i wonder how long a perfect wax figure takes to create? That might explain the delay in the burial

well let's just say they do have a wax figure inside the casket. is there a sure fire way for us to tell it's only wax and not a real body? and of course we can't say, "it doesn't look exactly like michael" cuz that could be based on the level of decomposition. so there must be some way we can tell that it's wax. or at least that it is a real body, but just not michael's. i hope i make sense...
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Post by MJfan777 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:34 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:
mommy wrote:Just heard on the news in DK that they have helicopters with heat detectors in the air to make sure that nobody is hiding within the gates... How desperate can one get???

I heard on CNN this morning that they would be there but would only be able to see the family come and go and that they wouldn't have any aerial footage because there is a "no fly zone" in force there.

this looks more a war operation than a burial. Shocked
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Post by illusionist Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:35 am

It is possible to cosmetize someone after 2 months and hide the decomposition. If he is dead and refrigerated this whole time then most definitely you will be able to do wonders with cosmetics.
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:37 am

but why would his family want to put prince, paris and blanket through that? Why make them see their +2 month dead daddy?
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Post by ishealive Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:38 am

This is BS they wouldn't show him after 2 weeks when he was still in good condition but they will show him after 2 months...
This is sounding more like a thriller every day, no matter how much make-up he has on him he'll still look terrible after sitting there for over 2 months, I have a picture in my head of him jumping out of the coffin and saying booo!

If MJ is dead I hope he comes back and haunts the lot of them, police included!
I still think he's alive though.
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Post by emanviam Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:38 am

neverlandsfairy wrote:If it to be true, except for the angelical kids, Janet, Rebbie and Kate...THEY SHOULD change their name for the JACKASS@@@LES! sorry for the bad word, but I can not control myself!I WANNA PUNCH THEM SO BADLY!

GOD HAVE MERCY OF THESE CHILDREN, my prays constantly for them!What a painful experience to carry on for their rest of lives!Any psychologist nearly graduated and without experience, would YELL SO MUCH ALOUD:HELL NO!

Sweet Jesus, our hearts with you during this tough day, hold your beloved son on your arms!

Ditto.
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Post by neverlandsfairy Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:39 am

[quote="Ivonne"]I will put my alarm clock for tomorrow night. I hope I wake up.

Whether the coffin is opened, well because everything can be possible
in there. Why do they want to show now, MJ? It was told, his face would
be damaged ... Now his face is not damaged? There were formerly no
people of that would have a make-up can be repaired?

I will pay attention to the reactions of the mourners. Specifically, I will pay attention to the reactions of his family.[/quote]

Their emotion will be FAKED, STAGED, if during the memorial was already fake...AND NOW RECORDING A FU##ED SILLY, DISGUSTING, DECADENT reallity show?THEY will be rolling on tears, as someone else mentioned, almost jumping on the hole, on this case going into the wall grave!

For the SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS,they were R-E-H-E-A-R-S-I-N-G!!! Last night!

Why why why?Cause they can not feel for themselves without prior direction.

It just leads to 3 conclusions:

1-It will be Johnattan/Joseph maked up with Hollywood Prothestics there
2-A waxed/dummy/realistic mannequin
3-THEY ARE THE MOST SICK and heartless family in the WHOLE UNIVERSE!

Also I need to leave a protest here, Michael is/was a very spiritual person, how come will not have any religous service?Even if they share different religious, they´d had performed an ecumenic service, instead!BUT NO,they are too busy worrying about their Miserable Reallity Show!
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Post by MJfan777 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:39 am

ballongiraf wrote:but why would his family want to put prince, paris and blanket through that? Why make them see their +2 month dead daddy?

this family is weird, u can wait anything from them *fear*
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Post by MJfan777 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:40 am

For the SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS,they were R-E-H-E-A-R-S-I-N-G!!! Last night!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:44 am

neverlandsfairy wrote:
For the SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS,they were R-E-H-E-A-R-S-I-N-G!!! Last night!


and the media - conviniently - failed to offer us pics of the grieving family entering the cemetery to begin the rehearsals.
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Post by illusionist Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:44 am

Any sort of facial damage can be repaired by wax. I use to do it all the time.
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Post by GirlSaturday Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:48 am

Well this is a Michael Jackson event. I'm surprised that they didn't report that will be "snipers on the rooftops".

mommy wrote:Just heard on the news in DK that they have helicopters with heat detectors in the air to make sure that nobody is hiding within the gates... How desperate can one get???
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Post by Ivonne Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:48 am

Lol @ Grace

Sorry tongue

I mean the reaction of his children, not La Toya, Janet and so on.
Specifically, I will pay attention to the reaction of Blanket. He's so
sweet.

No matter what is really happening, whether MJ is still alive or dead. The kids I feel sorry for.
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Post by nlb Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:49 am

ballongiraf wrote:but why would his family want to put prince, paris and blanket through that? Why make them see their +2 month dead daddy?

That is what bothers me about this burial, the kids. This just doesn't sound right. It seems like such an awful thing to do to them. Didn't the reports say that the kids saw him before the public memorial?

Let's say he really did die then I find this cruel to the children because:
1. I don't care how much make-up you use, decompostion has started. The more make up used the more unnatural he begins to look.
2. It's been over 2 months, the kids while still grieving are probably starting to learn a life without Daddy. Why cause them a set back by forcing them to view his body again?
3. Why should this be the last memory of how Daddy looks?
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Post by ballongiraf Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:49 am

illusionist wrote:Any sort of facial damage can be repaired by wax. I use to do it all the time.

and if that's the case, why on earth didnt they do that for the memorial?
Why chose to do that procedure on someone who's been dead for +2 months? That's so freaking disrespectful!
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Post by Ivonne Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:50 am

@ illusionist

I know that you can do with wax. The question is why they have previously
said that it would not go (Staples-Center). Wax was not invented yesterday.
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Post by kdkennedy74 Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:51 am

nlb wrote:
ballongiraf wrote:but why would his family want to put prince, paris and blanket through that? Why make them see their +2 month dead daddy?

That is what bothers me about this burial, the kids. This just doesn't sound right. It seems like such an awful thing to do to them. Didn't the reports say that the kids saw him before the public memorial?

Let's say he really did die then I find this cruel to the children because:
1. I don't care how much make-up you use, decompostion has started. The more make up used the more unnatural he begins to look.
2. It's been over 2 months, the kids while still grieving are probably starting to learn a life without Daddy. Why cause them a set back by forcing them to view his body again?
3. Why should this be the last memory of how Daddy looks?

I absolutely agree. Also, weren't we told before that Blanket was asking when is daddy going to return from holiday? If so this is just going to confuse him more. I could see him after this wanting to go visit with daddy and when he gets there wanting to see him because that is what they have done thus far.

Sick family those Jackson's.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:58 am

CantStopLovingU wrote:Sorry I do not have a link, I had TV Guide Channel on and they had someone who gave an update on the burial. The said it was private, ect ect and that there would be an open casket.

Even the commentators said that was somewhat disturning to hear because it has been more than 2 months.

My take on this is that somehow a picture will be leaked and that the family will do whatever they have to do to convince the world that Michael is gone - they will leak the picture and I think it will be a wax figure of some kind.

i wonder how long a perfect wax figure takes to create? That might explain the delay in the burial

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Post by neverlandsfairy Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:00 pm

Ivonne wrote:@ illusionist

I know that you can do with wax. The question is why they have previously
said that it would not go (Staples-Center). Wax was not invented yesterday.

Its exactly what Im wondering!

And here I will just leave my bet:the "released picture" will be something blurried, took a bit far from the casket, or very well PHOTOSHOPED, hopefully for not the same company who worked on his pictures for the O2. Sad
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