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Post by MJfan777 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:46 pm

You can view Michael Jackson’s initial and incomplete death certificate at the link below:
Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate
The reason this is an initial and incomplete death certificate is that no place of final disposition is listed.
You will see the reference to Forest Lawn and that this is ‘temp’ or temporary.
Per California law, however, this is not a valid death certificate to permit burial or other disposition! California Health and Safety Code Section 102875(a)(6) states that a death certificate must contain:

“Disposition of body information including signature and license number of embalmer if body embalmed or name of embalmer if affixed by attorney-in-fact; name of funeral director, or person acting as such; and date and place of interment or removal.” Michael Jackson was embalmed even though this was also a coroner’s case. Some of the embalming information has been blacked out, but the embalmer’s license number has not been blacked out – # 8473. According to the Cemetery and Funeral Bureau in Sacramento, embalming license number 8473 belongs to Jesus Miguel Ruiz.

No place of interment is listed. A ‘temp’ place could be a church. A ‘temporary’ location is not a proper location on a California death certificate. California Health and Safety Code Section 7009 defines “Interment”:
“‘Interment’ means the disposition of human remains by entombment or burial in a cemetery or, in the case of cremated remains, by inurnment, placement or burial in a cemetery, or burial at sea [].”

“Temp” is not a valid disposition.


http://michaeljacksonfuneral.org/michael-jacksons-death-certificate/
lol!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:01 pm

"Tempoary" Are you kidding me?? What the hell, are they going to dig him up again, and then move him to a new burial place?? Why the hell buy 12 ploths then, thats a waste of money. Even though Michael payed for his own funeral.

Is it signed by any Doctor? Cause if it isent, you are not dead by law as far as im aware

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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by PYT on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:15 pm

LOL after a while this all becomes much more amusing...its almost rediculous. I'm so glad im a believer & im not alone in this.

I feel like we're all in on Michaels inside joke! lol!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:21 pm

When are they going to make up their mind ???? It is like Hide & Seek for a dead body .... that is disturbing & mentally sick in so many ways.
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:54 pm

all I can say is... lol!
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Post by hungry on Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:08 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:all I can say is... lol!
SAAAME Smile
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Rach on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:29 am

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAH!!!!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by MJfan777 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:48 am

i told you guys, RIP does not exist to him! lol!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Thetruth on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:30 am

http://tarheelnotary.com/forms/certguide.pdf
On this PDF file there is a guide to acceptable Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates, and Death Certificates for obtaining an Apostille. They tell you very detail how a real death-, marriage and birth certificate should look like. And they are telling you how to spot a fake from the real deal. Although I did not seem to find anything wrong regarding that but it could be a language barrier.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by The Little White Bird on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:50 am

"Tempoary" Are you kidding me?? What the hell, are
they going to dig him up again, and then move him to a new burial
place?? Why the hell buy 12 ploths then, thats a waste of money. Even
though Michael payed for his own funeral.

It's dated July 7th. At that point he hadn't officially been buried. This is a temporary certificate from 4 months ago.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by The Little White Bird on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:53 am

http://tarheelnotary.com/forms/certguide.pdf
On
this PDF file there is a guide to acceptable Birth Certificates,
Marriage Certificates, and Death Certificates for obtaining an
Apostille. They tell you very detail how a real death-, marriage and
birth certificate should look like. And they are telling you how to
spot a fake from the real deal. Although I did not seem to find
anything wrong regarding that but it could be a language barrier.

According to those guidelines a certificate signed by an MD is not acceptable. MJ's certificate is signed by an MD, therefore its not permissable as an official document.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Secret Dove on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:58 am

The Little White Bird wrote:
http://tarheelnotary.com/forms/certguide.pdf
On
this PDF file there is a guide to acceptable Birth Certificates,
Marriage Certificates, and Death Certificates for obtaining an
Apostille. They tell you very detail how a real death-, marriage and
birth certificate should look like. And they are telling you how to
spot a fake from the real deal. Although I did not seem to find
anything wrong regarding that but it could be a language barrier.

According to those guidelines a certificate signed by an MD is not acceptable. MJ's certificate is signed by an MD, therefore its not permissable as an official document.

I hope that's true. It must be if it's in the PDF file above! That means the DC isn't valid, right? I hope this is good news. I'm not sure of anything anymore, I feel like I'm going crazy! lol! scratch Razz confused
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by The Little White Bird on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:01 am

I hope that's true. It must be if it's in the
PDF file above! That means the DC isn't valid, right? I hope this is
good news. I'm not sure of anything anymore, I feel like I'm going
crazy! lol! scratch Razz confused

No, its not valid.(assuming those guidelines are official) Its also only a temporary certificate. As far as i know, no real certificate has surfaced on the net so far. Hmmmm!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:12 am

MJ=THE MAN=THE JOKER
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:22 am

Guest wrote:"Tempoary" Are you kidding me?? What the hell, are they going to dig him up again, and then move him to a new burial place?? Why the hell buy 12 ploths then, thats a waste of money. Even though Michael payed for his own funeral.

Is it signed by any Doctor? Cause if it isent, you are not dead by law as far as im aware

It's signed by Latoya. I always thought it was against the law to have a family member sign a death certificate. But, then again, of it's not a valid death certificate, it doesn't matter if she signs it anyway.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by badloving on Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:52 am

it says temporary because they said they want to take him to neverland when the low will allow it, but...who knows...
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Missyb007 on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:18 am

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:MJ=THE MAN=THE JOKER

About the Joker.. have you seen Latoya's lyrics to her new song "Home"?
She mentions the joker Smile

When I’m all alone I get this feeling
It always makes me cry it’s one I can no longer hide
Missing all the years that we all shared at home
The silly things we did laughing from early dusk to dawn
I remember when we were all best friends…

Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had


When I’m all alone I think of our busy lives
Traveling place to place we must have met with family it was nice
Joker missed you to and all the fun we had
Never parted a day until we we went our separate ways
I remember when we were all best friends…

Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had

Home it was so many years ago (so many years)
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had

So don’t you tell me that I know what I’m feelin’
And don’t you tell me that I’m dreamin’
Like Mother always said your family will always be there for you
It don’t have to be this way let’s make tomorrow a much much brighter day
And don’t let this time between us slip away

Just slip away…


Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had

Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know (grew to only know)
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass (so many years)
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had
The memories we all once had



As for the death certificate I never believed in it, how can I if I believe MJ is alive Wink
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Secret Dove on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:22 am

The Little White Bird wrote:
I hope that's true. It must be if it's in the
PDF file above! That means the DC isn't valid, right? I hope this is
good news. I'm not sure of anything anymore, I feel like I'm going
crazy! lol! scratch Razz confused

No, its not valid.(assuming those guidelines are official) Its also only a temporary certificate. As far as i know, no real certificate has surfaced on the net so far. Hmmmm!

How can we find out if the guidelines are official? I would hope that they are though. I know that it's only a temporary certificate, and as far as I know a real DC hasn't surfaced on the net. Does Anna Nicole Smith, Heath Ledger or Patrick Swayze have a temp DC and a real DC on the net? If any or all of them do, we should compare them. Wink It is rather odd that a real DC for Michael hasn't surfaced on the net yet. I would think there would be one by now?scratch confused
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Post by Secret Dove on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:31 am

badloving wrote:it says temporary because they said they want to take him to neverland when the low will allow it, but...who knows...

Making Neverland Michael's final resting place is a BS story. Even if he is dead(which I don't believe he is ) , the man was very adamant that he would NEVER go back there, it was only a home not HIS home. To bury him there would be a total disrespect to Michael. If it was a true story, he would be buried there already! Plus, how can you bury someone if their alive? you can't bury a person if their breathing!! lol!
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Secret Dove on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:32 am

Missyb007 wrote:
SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:MJ=THE MAN=THE JOKER

About the Joker.. have you seen Latoya's lyrics to her new song "Home"?
She mentions the joker Smile

When I’m all alone I get this feeling
It always makes me cry it’s one I can no longer hide
Missing all the years that we all shared at home
The silly things we did laughing from early dusk to dawn
I remember when we were all best friends…

Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had


When I’m all alone I think of our busy lives
Traveling place to place we must have met with family it was nice
Joker missed you to and all the fun we had
Never parted a day until we we went our separate ways
I remember when we were all best friends…

Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had

Home it was so many years ago (so many years)
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had

So don’t you tell me that I know what I’m feelin’
And don’t you tell me that I’m dreamin’
Like Mother always said your family will always be there for you
It don’t have to be this way let’s make tomorrow a much much brighter day
And don’t let this time between us slip away

Just slip away…


Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had

Home it was so many years ago
Parted by the fame we grew to only know (grew to only know)
It was true when they say the show must go
Many years that we let pass (so many years)
Life’s not fair but I know our love will always last
We sing on the memories we all once had
The memories we all once had



As for the death certificate I never believed in it, how can I if I believe MJ is alive Wink


Interesting lyrics... scratch scratch confused confused scratch
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Thetruth on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:40 am

Secret Dove wrote:
The Little White Bird wrote:
I hope that's true. It must be if it's in the
PDF file above! That means the DC isn't valid, right? I hope this is
good news. I'm not sure of anything anymore, I feel like I'm going
crazy! lol! scratch Razz confused

No, its not valid.(assuming those guidelines are official) Its also only a temporary certificate. As far as i know, no real certificate has surfaced on the net so far. Hmmmm!

How can we find out if the guidelines are official? I would hope that they are though. I know that it's only a temporary certificate, and as far as I know a real DC hasn't surfaced on the net. Does Anna Nicole Smith, Heath Ledger or Patrick Swayze have a temp DC and a real DC on the net? If any or all of them do, we should compare them. Wink It is rather odd that a real DC for Michael hasn't surfaced on the net yet. I would think there would be one by now?scratch confused

Hi!
I did the search. And unfortunately I didn’t like the answer, I didn’t want to compare to Heath Ledger nor Anna Nicole since they lived in a different state when they died (NY & Florida) the laws may differ. However Patrick Swayne's death certificate looks exactly like Michael's but I don’t know if his is temporary or not, maybe I could find out...
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Ijustcarntstoplovingu on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:53 am

[quote="Thetruth"]
Secret Dove wrote:
The Little White Bird wrote:
I hope that's true. It must be if it's in the
PDF file above! That means the DC isn't valid, right? I hope this is
good news. I'm not sure of anything anymore, I feel like I'm going
crazy! lol! scratch Razz confused

No, its not valid.(assuming those guidelines are official) Its also only a temporary certificate. As far as i know, no real certificate has surfaced on the net so far. Hmmmm!

How can we find out if the guidelines are official? I would hope that they are though. I know that it's only a temporary certificate, and as far as I know a real DC hasn't surfaced on the net. Does Anna Nicole Smith, Heath Ledger or Patrick Swayze have a temp DC and a real DC on the net? If any or all of them do, we should compare them. Wink It is rather odd that a real DC for Michael hasn't surfaced on the net yet. I would think there would be one by now?scratch confused

Hi!
I did the search. And unfortunately I didn’t like the answer, I didn’t want to compare to Heath Ledger nor Anna Nicole since they lived in a different state when they died (NY & Florida) the laws may differ. However Patrick Swayne's death certificate looks exactly like Michael's but I don’t know if his is temporary or not, maybe I could find out...
[/quote



I think on MJHD a comparison was made betweet Patrick and Michael's DC and they were different and the conclusion was made that Michaels was not correct, dont think the data is availble at present unless they have been able to reinstate the data from the old forum.

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Post by Thetruth on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:55 am

It seems as Patrick was cremated and it was stated on his death certificate as CR/RES, so I doubt that the certificate is temporary.
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Post by Thetruth on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:04 pm

[quote="Ijustcarntstoplovingu"]
Thetruth wrote:
Secret Dove wrote:
The Little White Bird wrote:
I hope that's true. It must be if it's in the
PDF file above! That means the DC isn't valid, right? I hope this is
good news. I'm not sure of anything anymore, I feel like I'm going
crazy! lol! scratch Razz confused

No, its not valid.(assuming those guidelines are official) Its also only a temporary certificate. As far as i know, no real certificate has surfaced on the net so far. Hmmmm!

How can we find out if the guidelines are official? I would hope that they are though. I know that it's only a temporary certificate, and as far as I know a real DC hasn't surfaced on the net. Does Anna Nicole Smith, Heath Ledger or Patrick Swayze have a temp DC and a real DC on the net? If any or all of them do, we should compare them. Wink It is rather odd that a real DC for Michael hasn't surfaced on the net yet. I would think there would be one by now?scratch confused

Hi!
I did the search. And unfortunately I didn’t like the answer, I didn’t want to compare to Heath Ledger nor Anna Nicole since they lived in a different state when they died (NY & Florida) the laws may differ. However Patrick Swayne's death certificate looks exactly like Michael's but I don’t know if his is temporary or not, maybe I could find out...
[/quote



I think on MJHD a comparison was made betweet Patrick and Michael's DC and they were different and the conclusion was made that Michaels was not correct, dont think the data is availble at present unless they have been able to reinstate the data from the old forum.


I dont think that there were anything important that they found which has not already been mentioned by the OP. Bu if you are intrested here is the link to that diskussion:
http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:SOeueQgWwbUJ:www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/%3Fpage_id%3D293/death-certificate/patrick-swayzes-vs-michael-jacksons-death-certificate/+http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/%3Fpage_id%3D293/death-certificate/patrick-swayzes-vs-michael-jacksons-death-certificate/&cd=1&hl=sv&ct=clnk

You got to love the chade function Wink
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Post by infinitylady on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:13 pm

Joker missed you to and all the fun we had

Yeah, you are right and it's a joke.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by shusc140 on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:15 pm

I don't want to play the devil's advocate but if the death certificate is incorrect for any reason, it doesn't mean that MJ is alive.
Maybe the DC was made up by TMZ or maybe a real one has never been leaked.

I do believe MJ is alive, my point is that we have to be very careful when it comes to any information leaked by TMZ.
Well, maybe i came to a point that I need MJ himself appear in public to clarify all this hoax.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by lisap27 on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:35 pm

i think i read somewhere on a thread in here that a death certificate is accsessable
for anyone.. (joe public so to speak)

so you could go an buy a copy of Elvis's for example!!

anybody thought about that in this case!!

don't wanna sound sick an twisted by buying death certificates!! but i remember readin it!!
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Post by Thetruth on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:38 pm

lisap27 wrote:i think i read somewhere on a thread in here that a death certificate is accsessable
for anyone.. (joe public so to speak)

so you could go an buy a copy of Elvis's for example!!

anybody thought about that in this case!!

don't wanna sound sick an twisted by buying death certificates!! but i remember readin it!!

Yes there are ways to obtain an offical death cirtificate of almost anyone, it will cost you though.
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Post by lisap27 on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:45 pm

Yes there are ways to obtain an offical death cirtificate of almost anyone, it will cost you though.[/quote]

thought so!! i wouldn't do it personally!! but the idea is out there now.. Smile
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by infinitylady on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:50 pm

You know I read or heard somewhere that they were going to seal MJs documents. I have to find out further. I wished I had took a look at it but I was doing something else at the time. Sorry, I know this isn't going to be helpful.
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Christiana on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:55 pm

Laws for obtaining death certificates vary for every state. In California, and in Tennessee (where Elvis died), only family or their legal reps can obtain legal copies of the actual death certificate. No one has ever seen Elvis' death certificate. But there are different types of death certificates in California and the ones we've seen on TMZ, ET etc are informational copies...not the actual death certificate copies.
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:21 pm

whos to say that there is anything written underneath the blacked out parts of the certificate do you understand me think about it
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by Secret Dove on Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:23 pm

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:whos to say that there is anything written underneath the blacked out parts of the certificate do you understand me think about it

That's the hard part. We don't know what's under the blacked out parts! There could be nothing there for all we know. Very confusing! scratch confused
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:45 pm

SECRET DOVE EXACTLY THINK ABOUT IT
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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by hesouttamylife on Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:56 pm

YouAreMyLifeMJ wrote:
Guest wrote:"Tempoary" Are you kidding me?? What the hell, are they going to dig him up again, and then move him to a new burial place?? Why the hell buy 12 ploths then, thats a waste of money. Even though Michael payed for his own funeral.

Is it signed by any Doctor? Cause if it isent, you are not dead by law as far as im aware

It's signed by Latoya. I always thought it was against the law to have a family member sign a death certificate. But, then again, of it's not a valid death certificate, it doesn't matter if she signs it anyway.


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Re: Michael Jackson’s Death Certificate

Post by hesouttamylife on Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:10 pm

So They Came Into The Outway
It Was Sunday-What A Black Day
Mouth To Mouth Resus-Citation
Sounding Heartbeats-Intimidations
You've been hit by a smooth criminal.....

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