Hello, everyone.
You already all know that, some days ago, the Dave Dave video was posted on the boards.
I believe Dave Dave was Michael Jackson in disguise on Larry King Live. If Dave Dave exists, existed or not – I don't know. I'm not sure it's even important. He probably does.
I haven't name-called anyone on this questions – whether they believe it or not. On the Dave Dave issue, or on any other issue. I haven't. I don't think I've seen Mo and Souza do it on the posted thread either. However, that thread has become purely chaotic and insults are flying all over the place between the people who believe he is and the people who believe he isn't.
First of all, I would like to address the people who think “it's effing sick to pose as a burn victim”. Why ?
If that Dave Dave person does exist – it seems to me like he does not want to be perceived just as a burn victim anymore. The guy's a SURVIVOR. He's been through hell – whether he exists or not, he embodies suffering. It's not sick to put oneself in his shoes – it's BRAVE. Actors do it all the time – Sean Penn impersonated a mentally disabled person in “I Am Sam”, Gary Sinise, a handicapped soldier in “Forrest Gump”, and countless others have acted as Auschwitz prisoners, for instance. Yes, it's going very far – but that takes a great deal of humility and courage – and those kinds of experiences change you.
As an aspiring actress myself, I can't tell you how hard, how brave and how amazing it is to try and put yourself in a situation like this – to actually begin to imagine the suffering, the pain, the courage it all takes.
Or maybe some people think burn victims are disgusting because they look scary to them ?
If Dave Dave exists and knows Michael, maybe he feels touched that someone like Michael Jackson, who hasn't been to that degree of physical pain (even though he did go through a serious burning accident) would try and put himself on his level and shoes. So Dave Dave is not alone. The love you take is equal to the love you make, have you ever heard of that saying ?
I think Dave Dave was Michael Jackson on Larry King Live – and I think Dave Dave is a symbol. If you don't believe he was, that is absolutely fine. But I don't understand why you would think it's sick. Or disgusting. Or that it's playing games and it's not nice. Well, didn't you accept the game a long time ago when you signed up on this website ?
The end doesn't always justifies the means – but I think, in this occasion, it does. I think the motives behind this are far greater than we give Michael Jackson credit for, and I do believe his motives are anchored in good, in the end. I do not think he is in any kind of danger, and I do think there's a sort of meshing of the theories here : the movie theory + the DEA sting operation theory all wrapped up in a sort of socio-political mission. Ambitious ? Very. Utopic ? Probably. But the work and the attempt is there, and I applaud Michael Jackson for that.
And I do think that yes, this is very crazy. In order to do something like this, you NEED to take a walk on the wild side. You just do. And that's okay. It's okay to be a bit wackadoo People who think they are totally sane are either lying to themselves or not very bright.
“There's only one difference between me and a madman. A madman thinks he's sane. I KNOW I'm mad.”
If you think Michael is in great danger, then why are you digging deeper to try and find him ? If you think Michael wants to be left alone by everyone, then why don't you leave him alone yourself ?
Our perception is our truth. Act accordingly.
Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers.
And maybe it's time to ask yourself the question : what am I doing here ? What am I searching for ? What am I willing to accept or refuse ?
I have found my own answers. I'm sticking here till the end.

Have you found yours ?
P.S : Please, go back and listen to what Dave Dave has to say. Whether you believe he is Michael or not – it's not important. Just, listen to his words and the message he conveys.
P.P.S : Michael Jackson has already disguised himself as ill or injured persons in the past. (I can recall at least two : last year, he posed as a sick person in a wheelchair – and some years ago, he was wearing a full-on bandage attire, complete with walking stick) . Also, I don't see ANYONE mocking a burn victim here. No one has been disrespectful – and MJ portraying Dave Dave is not a “mockery”. I haven't seen anything grotesque. I sure as hell haven't seen any “laughing at” and Dave Dave's experience and words, persona or real, humbles me deeply. Maybe MJ related to him.
If I am wrong about this, then I'm wrong about this. Pascal wager, people.

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."

hmmm, you have definatley made the wheels in my head start turning..i wasn't on board the Dave thing before BUT...maybe just maybe.....

I agree with your message and thoughts. Never judge a book by its cover. People judging others (for whatever reason) are often unsatisfied about themselves. It's always easier to judge someone else's shortcomings, than to take a good lookat and improve your own. I'm afraid this is part of being human, 'cause I've never met anyone, that's completely UNjudgemental (don't know if that's the correct way to say it).

I also agree that it does not matter whether Dave Dave is a person or MJ in disguise. What does matter is him appearing all of a sudden and conveying his message. I can't find any info on Dave Dave or David Rothenberg (his birthname according to LKL). Not finding him on Google doesn't mean he doesn't exist at all, but with his story and strong link to MJ, I expected to find at least some sort of article (old or new), wouldn't you? It could also be possible, that I just didn't look hard enough or searched in the wrong way/places.

Whether or not he's a real person, his story(what happened to him) is quite unstettling and he represents a lot of people worldwide, that are judged upon their looks/thoughts/convictions and such. This to me is what matters most. For people to accept and appreciate other people for who they really are. To look beyond the flesh and superficial things that nowadays are made to be more important than people themselves.

We live in a very material world, where the size of one's flatscreen tv and the clothes we wear are more important than sharing thoughts and emotions with one another and enjoying the simple things in life. A sad development in which the media play a very big part.

English is not my first language, so if something I wrote sounds weird, just say so and I will try to reformulate.

I am stilL undecided as to whether Dave is Michael or not - but he does sound similar to Michael, soft.. and Human_nature is right about the transition in th skin tone of Dave's over the years..although Dave is older he looks quite different to when he was being interviewed by Leeza.. I am not really familiar what skin graft operation involves but if the skin could get worse as it did for Dave, does it mean that skin graft surgeries are needed for him and anyone suffering from severe burns every often to monitor the progression of the damage done to the skin?


on the other hand, there was a photo shown on Larry King Live of Michael holding a baby boy whom I presume to be Dave....

I am sorry if I don't make sense

Wait a minute!! I was gona all weekend and people arte saying the guy in the above vids is Michael? WHAT?

Please, what the heck am I missing when Im gone!!! LOL

Strange how "daveDave" has eyeliner on? MJ had it tattooed.

I think, and this is just my opinion, that the voice and the gestures are Michael. No doubt. The way he kind of cuts LK off at one point is so Michael, it made me almost fall out of my chair... just my opinion...

I have to admit that I was not to keen on the idea. But once I thought about it and I saw Souza's post over at MJHD (with pictures and videos) I came up with the following Michael could definitely disguise himself as Dave Dave...If we think this is all part of a movie. A movie needs to have actors.

I agree actors play different roles all the times i.e. Gangsters, alcoholics, prostitutes along with the portrayals you mentioned....burned victims, etc. No one seems to be offended when these actors are doing a portrayal, because it’s for a movie, some of these character portrayals even win Oscar's for these actors.

So I wonder what if Michael was not thought to be "dead" but everyone knew he is alive and he is playing the character of a burn victim in a movie...people wouldn't be so quick to judge the idea. In fact I think that he would even be nominated for an Oscar.

If in fact Dave Dave was a portrayal by Michael it just goes to show that Michael was able to see Dave as regular human being w/out the stigma of having been "branded" as a burn victim. He didn't see Dave's physical appearance and or limitations at all but he saw within and he saw the beautiful human that Dave is in spite of the physical deformity the world sees.

I don't know maybe I am getting too weird for my own good here and I apologize if my thought has offended anyone as that is not my intention. But we are talking about the mind of a brilliant man at work here! And with Michael anything is possible. just my thought!

BTW Great post!

there is def difference in voices between 1st and 2d interviews! do you also hear that?

i haven't followed the dave dave drama that close, so can someone tell me this:
why was dave dave on LKL?

My heart pounded so hard, when I saw the vid a few days ago.
I showed it to my boyfriend and he said immediately that it's Michael.
But I felt bad about it, because some members became upset about others thinking this could be Michael..
It's not the eyes that makes me wonder about it. It's the mannerism and the sooooft kind voice. Just listen when Dave Dave talks about the arcade.. And when he interrupts LK: "And you know what, Larry..." It's so Michael'ish.
I'm not saying I'm sure it's Michael, but I can't ignore my first impression.
If they were very close then Dave Dave could have adopted Michaels way of talking. Close friends do that sometimes. But then Dave Dave is very very good at acting like Michael.
I think Dave Dave is an amazing strong person.
I just don't know the meaning about Michael doing this (if he actually is acting as Dave Dave).

i at first thought it could be michael, but i'm not sure...i dunno what to think yet. but me and my husband watched it and we were amazed at how much his characteristics were like michael's...his eyes and voice too. like it was stated earlier, we were questioning his reasons for going on LKL tho.