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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:01 pm

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/general-discussion/proof-the-email-pic-is-fake

I posted something on MJHD.com ..PROOF!!!
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:10 pm

Thanks for the info!
I'll post the pics so anyone can see them!
Wooow, you can realy see that he's ear is not damaged!
And he's so beautiful in this pic!

HOAX! HOAX! HOAX!


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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:14 pm

My Post just got deleted from MJHD...wth?..I posted it afew times...and all of them got deleted...well...hope that doesnt happen here... Smile
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:22 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:My Post just got deleted from MJHD...wth?..I posted it afew times...and all of them got deleted...well...hope that doesnt happen here...

Don't worry, here we are a family! You will be amazed to find how sweet this people are! We somtimes pas theow difficult moments, but that's what makes our family stronger!

I'm a member of the MJHD since July, but I never made a post there, I wasn't feeling confortable! And then I find out about this forum and never left! You will feel great here!
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Post by MJFOREVER on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:28 pm

We respect everybody and there oppinion if we like it or not, and when we have words sometimes(yes we realy have them ahah)well then most of the time its all good again in a few minutes LOL lol!
This is a cool forum where everybody got everybody's back when those trolls ahah (not my words) attacking some members here.
MJHD has changed alot since the start so dont be shy and join this forum lol!

Sorry for the english ahha
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:32 pm

i kno...i joined his forum a while back...after mjhd got closed down the first time...ive benn following both sites since the very begining...I like this forum much better.. Smile
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Post by justafan on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:44 pm

i don't understand
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Post by MJWifey on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:48 pm

ive been addicted to this site its way better than mjhd dont ever go back there!!!!
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:51 pm







YOU can figure it out Smile

P.S: THe middle pic is from the THIS IS IT poster
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Post by YveLoVesMJ on Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:53 pm

Ahhh too bad your post got deleted but don't worry SmoothCriminal82, you'll be safe here with so many nice ppl. DreamsComeTrue you're right, he is beautiful in that pic Very Happy
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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:08 pm

To me the Michael in the ambulance is a much younger, not so skinny Michael.
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Post by MJJ1982 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:10 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:





YOU can figure it out

P.S: THe middle pic is from the THIS IS IT poster

It is already mentioned somewhere, but take a look:
http://moonbasealien.com/MJAlive.html
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Post by Pammy on Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:28 pm

Thanks for posting it here ! No comment about MJHD Forum
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Post by michaelinspiresme on Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:52 pm

He is so damn cute in this pic!! Man has he STILL GOT IT OR WHAT!!
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Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:53 pm

Like a fine wine! He got better with age in every which way!!!!
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Post by MJJ1982 on Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:23 am

mjssoulmate wrote:Like a fine wine! He got better with age in every which way!!!!

Hell Yeah.......
Some people say he's not attractive anymore, I don't mind they say that: Just give him to me then
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:35 am

"Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by MJWifey on Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:34 pm

2 tru he been sexci all his life buht um.....just give him to me instead....
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Post by amber on Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:33 pm

is the pic with the black face mask,pointy ear a impersonater?
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Post by amber on Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:36 pm

silly me just had another look didnt realise middle was this is it pic. this is interesting. like this site by the way
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:37 pm

The pointy, mangled ear could be Ernesto's.
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Post by amber on Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:38 pm

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Post by Guest on Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:50 pm

MJJ1982 wrote:
mjssoulmate wrote:Like a fine wine! He got better with age in every which way!!!!

Hell Yeah.......
Some people say he's not attractive anymore, I don't mind they say that: Just give him to me then


NOT ATTRACTIVE. Are they blind??? OMG!!!

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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:00 pm

I am getting lost!! Does that mean that the Michael with the black mask is the right one as the one to me laid on the stretcher in the ambulance looks to have an ok ear but on the site I clicked on to somewhere above states the opposite and it was an impostor with the black mask and the ambulance as they think the ambulance Michael has a dodgy ear but the ear in ambulance looks fine to me?? Is like years ago on TV was a cop serial and was at an Elvis impersonation contest and they couldn't find the killer as they all looked alike, was so funny!!
Can someone explain please about the ambulance photo's-my dumb blonde bimbo moment he he.
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Post by Anika20 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:12 pm

HELPPPPPP!!!!!!! Can someone plz explain to me something? because I am almost lost!!

Ok, so the Michael Jackson in the ambulance is real because of his ear, but the one who was singing on stage wasn't him because he had a normal round ear and Mike hadn't it...and the picture whith the boy wearing a black mask is supposed to be taking after Mike's dead?? But how do we know that it was taking after his dead and not before? because there's not date on it! or I can't see it.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEELPPP me good people!!!
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Post by Anika20 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:18 pm

OKAYYY!! I just understand it!! LMAO!!! So the impersonator had a different ear than MIke had...so the person who died was not Mike but the impersonator, am I right??

Are we sure Mike had a normal ear? I meant..because of the surgery and all that, I don't want to have hopes if it's not truth Sad
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:27 pm

I too am utterly lost-this takes some figuring out. So is the real MJ the one with the dodgy ear or the normal ear?
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:30 pm

Anika20 wrote:HELPPPPPP!!!!!!! Can someone plz explain to me something? because I am almost lost!!

Ok, so the Michael Jackson in the ambulance is real because of his ear, but the one who was singing on stage wasn't him because he had a normal round ear and Mike hadn't it...and the picture whith the boy wearing a black mask is supposed to be taking after Mike's dead?? But how do we know that it was taking after his dead and not before? because there's not date on it! or I can't see it.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEELPPP me good people!!!

I wish I can help you! I'm lost too!
But I'll give you my opinion!
From the thousands of photos that I've seen, Michael had a normal ear! I do believe it's him on the rehersal photos and video! And he has normal year on this photos!
What I think is that the pointy ear guy is the impersonator! The same guy from the ambulance photo!
I don't believe Michael was in the ambulance, nor in the helycopter when the body moved, nor in the van! In all this I think was the impersonator!
Michael at that time was busy with escaping!

By the way, the photo with the ponty ear guy was made previous 25th of June!
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Post by Anika20 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:30 pm

The one with the normal ear is the real one, the one with the dodgy one..the fake, or I think so
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Post by Anika20 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:31 pm

Thank you DreamsComeTrue ^^
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:37 pm

Anika20 wrote:Thank you DreamsComeTrue ^^

No problem!
Just one thing...I don't think there must be a body! I don't believe there's anybody dead in this case!
Like was proofed that the video with the ambulance was filmed twice, I don't think they would carry a body in the ambulace all this time! This doesn't make sense!
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Post by Anika20 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:43 pm

Hmm..you're actually right! So the point for me then is that Mike was (maybe is still) under some kind of danger, otherwise he will not have help from the police!
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:53 pm

Its just that I had read a few times that Michael had recently before his death had gone to a good German plastic surgeon to sort out his nose and he had taken cartilidge from his ear- I know I should'nt take everything I read as gospel truth but it would make sense, it does look like that with the dodgy ear photo (as if some had to be taken away) It really would make sense I think given that MJ had had a lot of surgery over the years and is unlikely I suppose that a lookalike would have had a lot of surgery-enough to have his ear carlilidge used. Hope you all understand what I am trying to explain so surely the one with the dodgy ear is the real MJ and as someone pointed out we havn't seen him for a couple of years so he could have had more surgery for the hoax and worn the mask and used a double for when we saw him without the mask. What do you all think??
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Post by Anika20 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:55 pm

HarleyBronze that was exactly what I was thinking about!! and thats why I thought the one singing was the impersonator!
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:45 pm

Yes-you see I have been really trying to figure things out, every waking hour I am thinking and trying to unravel the plot and think I am trying too hard. I just showed my Mum and Sister the Photos and they said straightaway what I explained. We had no reason at the time to think it wasnt him AT ALL! No-one noticed it was an imposter and everyone opened the door for him to pull off the biggest hoax ever!!!
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Post by Red Velvet on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:06 pm

DreamsComeTrue wrote:
Anika20 wrote:Thank you DreamsComeTrue ^^

No problem!
Just one thing...I don't think there must be a body! I don't believe there's anybody dead in this case!
Like was proofed that the video with the ambulance was filmed twice, I don't think they would carry a body in the ambulace all this time! This doesn't make sense!
I completely agree with this! There is NO PROOF either at the house or at the hospital.

At the house, they took all that time to do something but it wasn't trying to revive MJ nor did it include loading a dead body into the ambulance imo.

I think at the hosue they were just following MJ's 'instructions' of what to do as he was working out the kinks of what the 'story' should be of why the EMTs didn't take him to the hospital immediately (like ANY NORMAL EMTs would do in such a dire emergency) and I believe it was a concern that came up at the "last minute" like so many times whenever something has been planned in the bigger picture to the letter. I feel they were taking care of that ooooops because surely Murray had to remind him that the question would be raised and notice how there is no SENSIBLE/CREDIBLE answer for why they didn't.

In the fire Chief's interview he says how experienced his staff is yet there is no indication or evidence that his experienced staff contacted their superior and reported that "the attending physician on the scene refuses to let us take the non-breathing, unresponsive patient to the hospital"

also the gross conflict in stories points to there being NO body as well

1) If Murray didn't want "blood on his hands" and MJ was still alive, he would have had them rush MJ to the hospital IMMEDIATELY to the hands of another physician.

2) If MJ was "still alive" but not conscious, there is NO WAY any doctor would INSIST on NOT taking him to a place where he could be attended by more Senior physicians.

3) If there was "levity" in the body, there is NO WAY that ANYONE would have "worked on a corpse" an ADDITIONAL HOUR - AFTER he got the the hospital.

4) If MJ (or anyone else) "died" that day, there would be NO conflicting stories about the condition of the body, the face etc. If they used a "stand in" corpse, that corpse's body was in some condition or other and there would be no despute.

I also feel its entirely possible that a LIVING BREATHING MJ got into that ambulance and went to the hospital.

***************we have to remember, MJ had a LOT of respect for ILLUSION*********

I'm not decided what that "fire drill" or "alarm" was about at the emergency room, but it was enough to get everyone OUT so that something could be executed.

I'm thinking that it was to get the living breathing MJ in there so that some medical personnel and possibly some family members not "in on it" could be fooled into believing he was dead, but mostly to make "arrangements" for the next phase by meeting with his family and others - maybe Dileo.

I believe that some of these characters are playing the "bad guy" role to throw the whole thing off and even though its off topic, I also believe that includes Oprah. But that's another story.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:38 pm

I have heard people mention the fire alarm before, but only on this site. I didn't hear anything about that in the news. Where did that information come from? Can someone explain? At what time did it go off, was it only in the emergency room? etc.
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Post by Red Velvet on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:58 pm

Here are a couple of accounts of it ... this patient's eye witness account mentions Jermaine's conversation.

Here's what she said:

She was very pleased with how I was healing, and my White Blood Cell
counts, Hemoglobin and Platelets couldn't be more normal - I could
donate platelets now if they'd let me! And then as we were about to get
to some bigger questions, a fire alarm went off. We had to evacuate the
building with the doctors and nurses and stand outside as the media
frenzy was growing regarding Michael Jackson. I think a Paparazzi
probably pulled the alarm as a distraction. Still, we had to wait for
the fire truck and the all clear, within yards of the entrance to the
hospital where Michael Jackson was.

In fact, after the little
fire alarm, we found out that one of the nurses (the one who takes my
vitals) was approached by a young black man as we were waiting for the
all clear. He told her his name was Jermaine Jackson, Jr. and he needed
help finding the entrance to the hospital, so she escorted him. She was
just a few feet away, and we missed it! Once we got the "all clear", we
went back in to finish my appointment. At that point, a lot of the
nursing staff was confirming that Michael Jackson had indeed passed
away. Not sure if we knew ahead of everyone else, but it was still
shocking news to say the least. The good news about the rest of my
appointment: I am still cancer free, and I no longer need to have blood
draws at home! Yay!
and here's the link

http://stanford.wellsphere.com/epilepsy-seizures-article/a-very-interesting-follow-up-at-ucla-today/732985

this one is by Nancy Grace so ... read it for its worth and not her drama

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/25/ng.01.html

the following account talks about MJHD site's report being inaccurate because the alarm went off next door ...

http://jenellesjourney.blogspot.com/2009/06/very-interesting-follow-up-at-ucla.html

personally I am not seeing a difference in an attempt to distract and create illusion although it does dispute the idea that everyone in the ER had to leave thank God IF TRUE, because that would have been beyond inconvenient for emergency patients.


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Post by Human_nature on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:59 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by Red Velvet on Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:01 pm

Human_nature wrote:
mjssoulmate wrote:I have heard people mention the fire alarm before, but only on this site. I didn't hear anything about that in the news. Where did that information come from? Can someone explain? At what time did it go off, was it only in the emergency room? etc.

It was on a blog. Someone was at the hospital at the same time, and just wrote that in her blog.
probably the same one I just posted above (1st one)
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Post by Red Velvet on Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:08 pm

Here are a couple of accounts of it ... this patient's eye witness account mentions Jermaine's son.

Here's what she said:

She was very pleased with how I was healing, and my White Blood Cell
counts, Hemoglobin and Platelets couldn't be more normal - I could
donate platelets now if they'd let me! And then as we were about to get
to some bigger questions, a fire alarm went off. We had to evacuate the
building with the doctors and nurses and stand outside as the media
frenzy was growing regarding Michael Jackson. I think a Paparazzi
probably pulled the alarm as a distraction. Still, we had to wait for
the fire truck and the all clear, within yards of the entrance to the
hospital where Michael Jackson was.

In fact, after the little
fire alarm, we found out that one of the nurses (the one who takes my
vitals) was approached by a young black man as we were waiting for the
all clear. He told her his name was Jermaine Jackson, Jr. and he needed
help finding the entrance to the hospital, so she escorted him. She was
just a few feet away, and we missed it! Once we got the "all clear", we
went back in to finish my appointment. At that point, a lot of the
nursing staff was confirming that Michael Jackson had indeed passed
away. Not sure if we knew ahead of everyone else, but it was still
shocking news to say the least
. The good news about the rest of my
appointment: I am still cancer free, and I no longer need to have blood
draws at home! Yay!
and here's the link

http://stanford.wellsphere.com/epilepsy-seizures-article/a-very-interesting-follow-up-at-ucla-today/732985

this one is by Nancy Grace so ... read it for its worth and not her drama

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/25/ng.01.html

the following account talks about MJHD site's report being inaccurate because the alarm went off next door ...

http://jenellesjourney.blogspot.com/2009/06/very-interesting-follow-up-at-ucla.html

personally I am not seeing a difference in an attempt to distract and create illusion although it does dispute the idea that everyone in the ER MJ was in went off/quote]


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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:09 pm

Thanks guys. I will read through the info.
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Post by Red Velvet on Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:13 pm

Now we've just got to figure out why he had the alarm pulled at the building next door Laughing

I can almost guarantee there's a reason ...

*** illusion is everything ***
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Post by Human_nature on Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:14 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by Anika20 on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:18 am

Okay...but you have all to agree with something, if we know that Mike had han an operation to remove the cartilage (from his ear and placed it on the nose) his ear actually will look more like the ambulance pic than like the one belonging to the person singing! don't you think so?

Interesting about the fire alarm...hmm
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Post by Red Velvet on Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:37 am

they had to wait for a fire truck to come

hmm (just thinking)

so they had to wait for the 'all clear' before they could go back into the building next door which had just been evacuated

hmm now I want to see a pic of this hospital to see if there's an over-pass pedestrian bridge that leads from one section (bldg) of the hospital, where the clinics are to the ER ...

... or ..

something .. hmmm
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Post by mysticallymagestically on Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:10 am

Red Velvet wrote:they had to wait for a fire truck to come

hmm (just thinking)

so they had to wait for the 'all clear' before they could go back into the building next door which had just been evacuated

hmm now I want to see a pic of this hospital to see if there's an over-pass pedestrian bridge that leads from one section (bldg) of the hospital, where the clinics are to the ER ...

... or ..

something .. hmmm

Even if there isn't an over-pass bridge from one building of the hospital to the other, I have been to many hospitals where there are underground tunnels. Leaving the hospital was probably not the most difficult part of all of this since everyone was caught up in the excitement and nobody would care or suspect a van leaving the hospital.
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Post by Red Velvet on Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:41 am

mysticallymagestically wrote:
Red Velvet wrote:they had to wait for a fire truck to come

hmm (just thinking)

so they had to wait for the 'all clear' before they could go back into the building next door which had just been evacuated

hmm now I want to see a pic of this hospital to see if there's an over-pass pedestrian bridge that leads from one section (bldg) of the hospital, where the clinics are to the ER ...

... or ..

something .. hmmm

Even if there isn't an over-pass bridge from one building of the hospital to the other, I have been to many hospitals where there are underground tunnels. Leaving the hospital was probably not the most difficult part of all of this since everyone was caught up in the excitement and nobody would care or suspect a van leaving the hospital.
True. Very true. I just pulled up a map of the hospital. I wish I could post images (I'll figure it out ... guess I have to do photobucket or something) but it shows Radiology (where that blogger may have been since she was getting cancer treatment) as being right next to the ER and it doesn't seem to indicate another building the way I see it.

Here's a link to the hospital.

Click on the map on the lower right to blow it up.
http://www.uclahealth.org/body_med.cfm?id=572&oTopID=572
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Post by MJSmile4Us on Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:53 am

I am still not sure which one to believe;

was the alarm went off so as to avoid chaos when 'MJ' was brought into the hospital,

or bcoz to give Michael to escape?

both of them look plausible although I wish and pray for the latter one to b true
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Post by Red Velvet on Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:12 am

MJSmile4Us wrote:I am still not sure which one to believe;

was the alarm went off so as to avoid chaos when 'MJ' was brought into the hospital,

or bcoz to give Michael to escape?

both of them look plausible although I wish and pray for the latter one to b true
For the first one to be true doesn't really 'ring' for me because when alarms go off it tends to cause more chaos but I guess you mean sort of clear a path so to speak and I don't know. I get the impression it went off after his ambulance had arrived

If its the 2nd one, it would be a 'secret' reason that we can't really prove, y'know? but its the one I'm guessing because I can't escape the fact that MJ was enamoured with a thing called ILLUSION and I feel it figures into the 'distraction' factor somewhere ...just not sure where...

... that's one reason its of interest as to how the ER is situated vs. the area where the alarm went off
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