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Post by rowdyangel on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:22 am

Oh bless him. He looks so sad in the 2001 pic. Poor Michael
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Post by rowdyangel on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:25 am

And I have always believed and still believe that the O2 guy was NOT the real Michael.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:29 am

Also, he did change so much over the years, even more so than anyone who hasn't undergone surgery, we all change and we have to bear it in mind when we compare the photo's. Here is an excerpt I have pasted from the internet regarding the hoax,change of appearance etc-

There’s the question of how someone as distinctive as Jackson could slip into everyday life without being recognised, but aside from the fact that there are hundreds even thousands of impersonators and will probably be even more in the near future, it should be remembered that the Michael Jackson of 2009 bears next to no resemblance to the one of 1999, 1989, 1979 or 1969. And perhaps it was a mask. It would certainly explain a lot.
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:34 am

2001 – It´s something about the eyes, I can´t really put my finger on it.

2004 – I´ve always found this pictures odd, everyone from the trial. I don´t know why. Maybe becuase he was in such stress and didn´t eat.

2009 – VERY weird. Everything from the hair (wig?) to the lips.



P.s. It´s really nice to see that you´re not totally gone Rachel
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:51 am

The only way to tell for sure whether or not the 2009 is Michael is to look at the eyes. Is there anyone who can do magic with technology to make the eyes more visible under the glasses? I'm not a tech geek, so that leaves me out. Anyone?
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:53 am

mjssoulmate wrote:The only way to tell for sure whether or not the 2009 is Michael is to look at the eyes. Is there anyone who can do magic with technology to make the eyes more visible under the glasses? I'm not a tech geek, so that leaves me out. Anyone?

I think someone has done it in a an earlier thread. You have to look for it. I personally believed that the eyes were very strange, under the glasses, but that´s just me.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:55 am

Where do I find that? Same forum?
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:56 am

Hm, I think it was under "Just to chat about whatever" - forum.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:05 am

Thanks MJFoReVeRandAlways. I found them.
I really do think that it is MJ. What makes the O2 pic look so weird is the shadow that is cast over his face. I'm convinced that without the shadow we could better tell that it is Michael.
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:07 am

You´re welcome. And I guess we see different things, and it´s totally ok. To me the eyes are too far apart to be MJ´s.
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Post by Rach on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:06 pm

I just want to point out that the purpose of this thread was NOT to determine if Michael had plastic surgery, as someone on page 2 pointed out.

These pictures were printed in a magazine documenting Michael's life and me and Bidoska noticed odd things about them and wanted to know if others noticed them also.
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Post by phoenix on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:08 pm

Rach wrote:I just want to point out that the purpose of this thread was NOT to determine if Michael had plastic surgery, as someone on page 2 pointed out.

These pictures were printed in a magazine documenting Michael's life and me and Bidoska noticed odd things about them and wanted to know if others noticed them also.

i have somewhere also that kind of timeline, if i find it i will send it to you...hopefully i didnt throw the magazine away :-)
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Post by Human_nature on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:28 pm

Wherever. Whatever. Have a nice day."


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Post by The Little White Bird on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:17 pm

I personally think that everything printed since the Dangerous tour in 93 looks like a bunch of different people.
In the early eighties up to 88 (the bad era) he'd had a nose job and his hair relaxed. When bad came out, he looked the same but his skin was lighter and he had some eyeliner....sorry 'guyliner' tattooed on (the bad cover has been airbrushed professionally, i know that because i'm a graphic designer - thats why his skin looks so smooth and you cant see any contours on his face, its still him though)
He had a bit more surgery just before the Dangerous tour, still looked like MJ though.
1993 - the accusations began.......never saw a picture of him that looked like him since.
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Post by GirlSaturday on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:27 pm

"guyliner"...

The Little White Bird wrote:I personally think that everything printed since the Dangerous tour in 93 looks like a bunch of different people.
In the early eighties up to 88 (the bad era) he'd had a nose job and his hair relaxed. When bad came out, he looked the same but his skin was lighter and he had some eyeliner....sorry 'guyliner' tattooed on (the bad cover has been airbrushed professionally, i know that because i'm a graphic designer - thats why his skin looks so smooth and you cant see any contours on his face, its still him though)
He had a bit more surgery just before the Dangerous tour, still looked like MJ though.
1993 - the accusations began.......never saw a picture of him that looked like him since.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:38 pm

You're right Little White Bird. After 93 he changed an awwful lot. He did look his best in the early 90's, but he never lost that sweet sex appeal.
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Post by The Little White Bird on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:46 pm

You're right Little White Bird. After 93 he changed an awwful lot. He did look his best in the early 90's, but he never lost that sweet sex appeal.

Not sure about the sex appeal bit, what with me being a bloke (one of the rare ones on here i might add!) but I can tell you that i used to be a massive fan and went to a lot of his concerts. He went quiet for ages after the Dangerous tour and i remember thinking when he re-emerged in 95 'who the hell is that'! Cos since that time, he's never looked the same twice! (except when he took to the stage at the history tour weirdly enough)
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Post by Rach on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:48 pm

OMG Little White Bird, we share a mind!!!
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Post by The Little White Bird on Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:50 pm

OMG Little White Bird, we share a mind!!!

Ok but can i use it on tuesdays and at weekends?
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Post by nlb on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:03 pm

The Little White Bird wrote:
OMG Little White Bird, we share a mind!!!

Ok but can i use it on tuesdays and at weekends?

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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:09 pm

Even during the 8 months or so it took Bashir to film his documentary Michael never seemed to look the same twice.
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Post by The Little White Bird on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:15 pm

well everyone seems to be 100% positive it wasn't him at the o2. Now you need to look back at 2008, 2007, 2006 etc.
I'm pretty sure you'll find that apart from concerts, none of them are him either.
I also notice that in the footage of the 'this is it' concert thats been released, he suddenly looks like himself again. Only when dancing on stage, not the rest of it.
Either the man is some sort of chamelion or something strange has been going on for years. Both may be far fetched, but a human chamelion is pushing it a bit far!
No-ones face changes that much. with or without surgery. Dolly Parton has had surgery, liberace had surgery, latoya had surgery, they all look like like themselves! The plot is thicker than a home schooled conservative.
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Post by GirlSaturday on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:24 pm

Chameleon? No. There was a secret laboratory hidden in the basement of an English castle. There were experiements conducted to create seven (of course seven...lol)MJ clones. No two were to look exactly alike. Each was designed to have one change...just enough so that one day when he hoaxed his death, millions of fans worldwide would spend countless hours and have many sleepless nights straining their eyes to stare at their pictures.

The Little White Bird wrote:well everyone seems to be 100% positive it wasn't him at the o2. Now you need to look back at 2008, 2007, 2006 etc.
I'm pretty sure you'll find that apart from concerts, none of them are him either.
I also notice that in the footage of the 'this is it' concert thats been released, he suddenly looks like himself again. Only when dancing on stage, not the rest of it.
Either the man is some sort of chamelion or something strange has been going on for years. Both may be far fetched, but a human chamelion is pushing it a bit far!
The plot is thicker than a home schooled conservative.
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Post by The Little White Bird on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:27 pm

I'm in England, give me the address of the castle and i'll go investigate forthwith.
He would have got away with it too if it wasn't for us pesky kids! Wink
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Post by Bidoska on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:51 pm

Little White Bird :

when you have a chance i would really like to chat with you.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:55 pm

GirlSaturday wrote:Chameleon? No. There was a secret laboratory hidden in the basement of an English castle. There were experiements conducted to create seven (of course seven...lol)MJ clones. No two were to look exactly alike. Each was designed to have one change...just enough so that one day when he hoaxed his death, millions of fans worldwide would spend countless hours and have many sleepless nights straining their eyes to stare at their pictures.

The Little White Bird wrote:well everyone seems to be 100% positive it wasn't him at the o2. Now you need to look back at 2008, 2007, 2006 etc.
I'm pretty sure you'll find that apart from concerts, none of them are him either.
I also notice that in the footage of the 'this is it' concert thats been released, he suddenly looks like himself again. Only when dancing on stage, not the rest of it.
Either the man is some sort of chamelion or something strange has been going on for years. Both may be far fetched, but a human chamelion is pushing it a bit far!
The plot is thicker than a home schooled conservative.

Very funny! Are you sure it was done in England and Ireland?
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Post by The Little White Bird on Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:04 am

Little White Bird :

when you have a chance i would really like to chat with you.

ok, will have to be later on, cos i'm off to work in a minute. Feel free to message me, i'll reply when i get back...
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in reply to mj, nope i think its mj all the way for sure, he was a man of many many talents. I know surgery cant change that much but really it didnt. I do however believe it was not HIM at the 02 conference. but it was him at the rehearsals which came be

Post by candycane40 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:53 am

Rach wrote:Hi Guys,

Ok so I said I wasn't going to post anymore and while that is still true, I really need your help with something.

I would appreciate it if you could have a look at the pictures below and let me know which, if any, stand out to you and for what reason. If you could also give an explanation, that would be fab.

All will become clear soon.

Thanks so much.

Rachel.










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Post by badloving on Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:43 pm

i can recognize mj until 2004 or 2005 (by the way i think he looks great at the beggining of the trial period in 2005) but after that period i dont't know.....but you know, i read in tarraboreli's book that he felt sadder and sadder after that trial....he was never the same, that was too much for him. and maybe that's why his appearence changed and it's true that he didn't smile that much...at least not for the camera.i think his children were his biggest joy...
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Post by SomeoneInTheDarkForMe on Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:18 pm

I don't see anything odd. He's changed lot over the years, yes.
He's had different procedures(including non-surgical such as fillers and Botox) done at various times...
that, weight changes, age and the wigs make him look different.
He also had the bad habit of using makeup contouring, along his nose. Making it look smaller and stranger in shape. Perhaps he still thought his nose too wide?
His nose has begun to be corrected after 2001 and the improvement is finalized this year.
In the 1997 photo it doesn't look like his teeth, but that could be due to the angle or maybe he tried a veneer on his cute little "fang", temporarily?
In the 2000 one, he has an awful wig. His cheeks look more pronounced likely due to fluctuating weight again and the thinning of skin due to age.
In 2001 there is a dullness in his eyes and I believe he is drugged here, based on the footage of this event.
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Post by Kazumi on Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:58 pm

in the last 3 he looks more youthfull! i like his 2005 pic, he looks so happy^^ and...what's up with those cheekbones in 2000? o_O

btw DreamsComeTrue, what a lovely picture of Michael you have as signature...^^
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Post by lou on Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:34 pm

1995 and 2000/2001 stand out to me because I think he looks so different! I was so surprised that he looked so much like himself when they released the first footage of TII rehearsals (They really don't care about us). Have you seen the picture of him with KO they released this week? They say it's from June 09, a recent one. (I don't know how to post a pic here, but you can see it on this thread ). Well, it made me think that maybe he used heavy make up, wigs etc. to make his face look different whenever he wanted. I read on a thread today that he liked wearing cirurgic masks to have privacy. Maybe he tried to disguise himself most of the time and, finally, when we have TII footage we see that he hadn't changed that much.
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