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Post by MiaPaparazzi Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:35 pm

Hey guys... I haven't been around for a few days, so I am still catching up, so I apologize if this has been posted already... credit once again to TNZ's myspace... www.myspace.com/truenewszone

What do you guys think????? Kinda weird how old he looks within a matter of a few months??? Is it even the same person??


Murry's "new" photo? Murr10

Murry's "new" photo? Murr310


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Post by EarthAngel90 Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:39 pm

I am think the one on the right is fake ..... & the one on the left is really Dr. Murray .....
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Post by neverlandprincess Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:41 pm

I think it looks like the same guy-just the first one has light hitting him directly in the face.
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Post by kdkennedy74 Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:44 pm

In the new one he has grayed quite a bit and I don't remember him being that gray on the youtube video he done.
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Post by MiaPaparazzi Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:44 pm

Ok check this out... got it from google image search... its a mugshot... look at his one eye, its what they call "lazy" and is not showing in any other photo, but you cannot hide a lazy eye!!!


Murry's "new" photo? Murr210

AND IN COLOR...

Murry's "new" photo? Murr410


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Post by Loree Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:51 pm

with Gray hair??
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Post by jade jackson Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:52 pm

How strange. They all three look different to me. What's up with this? Back to ears and eyes, skin shade, age. I don't know wth to make of this. Surely Dr. Murray is isn't using doubles too!!!!! lol just kidding
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Post by ilprincipe Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:52 pm

Hey Mia..I'm not sure..didn't you tell in one thread that you are a photographer or
you have some knowledge about it..so I think you may be the person who can answer your own question....
I'm not good in this technical things..didn't know that photoshop exists before MJ died...

for me the 3rd pic in your first post...he looks very artificial there for me....
really more like created on a pc than just being a real person....
lazy eye.....the right one in that pic?
Hmmm.. I think the right eye is in the 2nd picture from 1st post similar..but I can be wrong...
the longer I watch and compare..the more I get confused...
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:58 pm

MiaPaparazzi wrote:Ok check this out... got it from google image search... its a mugshot... look at his one eye, its what they call "lazy" and is not showing in any other photo, but you cannot hide a lazy eye!!!


Murry's "new" photo? Murr210

AND IN COLOR...

Murry's "new" photo? Murr410


this guy looks like Spike Lee...
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Post by MJFOREVER Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:00 pm

There is a party picture of him lol! dont know where it is right now but he is different in that one 2 hahah
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Post by MJFOREVER Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:01 pm

what does domestic means???
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:02 pm

MJFOREVER wrote:what does domestic means???

In the US it mean he beat up his girl.
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Post by MiaPaparazzi Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:06 pm

ilprincipe wrote:Hey Mia..I'm not sure..didn't you tell in one thread that you are a photographer or
you have some knowledge about it..so I think you may be the person who can answer your own question....
I'm not good in this technical things..didn't know that photoshop exists before MJ died...

for me the 3rd pic in your first post...he looks very artificial there for me....
really more like created on a pc than just being a real person....
lazy eye.....the right one in that pic?
Hmmm.. I think the right eye is in the 2nd picture from 1st post similar..but I can be wrong...
the longer I watch and compare..the more I get confused...

I am a photographer, but am not a professional at photoshop... I know quite a bit but I am still learning, it is a REALLY powerful program that can do almost anything you can imagine to a photo... I was trained "old school" when film was your canvas, not a computer screen and where you photograph what you see in your lens, not what you plan on photoshopping into it later... however, I can usually eyeball a photo and tell if it has been edited or altered, but I am not good at comparing facial features and things of that nature.

So, in my professional opinion, I do believe out of the first 3 photos I posted, they have all been edited or altered in some way. I just can't tell if its the same person or not. I will have to sit down and compare them all side by side to be able to point out all the differences but for sake of time, I will have to try to do this later.

As far as the lazy eye, my sister has one, and it is obvious in pretty much every photo she is in, unless I turn her to a certain angle then it isn't as obvious. IF those mugshots are indeed real, I would say they are the closest thing we have at this point to an authentic photo of Murray and if you check out his nose in the mugshots and compare them with the other photos, it looks a bit different in size...
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Post by ishealive Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:12 pm

Murray looks different in all these photos, i've heard of people going grey from stress but this takes the biscuit...
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:12 pm

His nose in the mug doesnt look as wide as in the first 3 pics..
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Post by kdkennedy74 Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:13 pm

And it doesn't seem to tilt downward as much at the tip.
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Post by ilprincipe Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:22 pm

in the 3rd pic the nose seems a little bit shorter
and in the mugshot the nose seems smaller...

but you have to look VERY exactly
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Post by Harleyblonde Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:46 pm

Right-here goes. I think you POSSIBLY (dont want to upset anyone) are all barking up the wrong tree. I could well be wrong but I am married to a Kenyan and I have just dug out some photo's of him as I thought maybe to get an idea y'know. I wish I could post them on here and you will all know what I mean but he is a private person and would not want his pictures plastered on the internet and I respect that. To cut a long story short in some photo's he looks very light, in others he looks the actual colour he is and in others he looks darker than he is. Also his hair colour looks different as all ours do but his looks different in most and he has black hair and not going grey. Also have you ever seen photo's of yourself and your nose looks bigger or you like a certain one because your eyes look bigger/nicer etc. I have worked with photoshop quite a lot as I am an artist and also do pop art from photoshop. I do many many portraits of people and most of them will give me photographs to work from and I will maybe do the exact same eyes or mouth from one photograph as they look so much nicer (and different) to one of the other ones, in short I will pick the nicest features from all the photographs and make it into a nice portrait as people want to look their best in a portrait. I hope you understand what I am getting at and to my mind and the best of my knowledge they are legitamate pictures of the same bloke. He just looks a bit different and nicer (hair dye!) in some than others.
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:52 pm

Couple of weeks ago I saw Latoyas interview with Barbara Walters and that was the first time I saw Murray with grey hair. I wrote about it in the thread where the Latoyas interview videos were posted but noone reacted.

I do agree, MiaP. He looks weird in the pictures, they seem "worked on". Maybe it´s just me, but I dye my hair. And I think that anyone that does would now want to walk around that grey, that long. IF he dyes his hair, why was he (that much) grey in this picture?
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Post by phyli Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:24 pm

Hello all.

Regarding the Murray, pics, you know what stands out the most for me? The ears. The mugshot ears stick out whereas in the other pics, they do not. Now, it could be that he had them nipped and tucked, but to me, besides the gray hair, that's what I first noticed.

P.S. Wish I had a cool sig like you all! I'll have to work on it...
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Post by Harleyblonde Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:16 pm

phyli wrote:Hello all.

Regarding the Murray, pics, you know what stands out the most for me? The ears. The mugshot ears stick out whereas in the other pics, they do not. Now, it could be that he had them nipped and tucked, but to me, besides the gray hair, that's what I first noticed.

P.S. Wish I had a cool sig like you all! I'll have to work on it...

Well, everones ears seem to change in this scenario- look at Michaels!!! We havn't worked that puzzle out yet.
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