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Post by SeeingClues on Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:56 pm

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Authorities taking their time in Jackson case
By LINDA DEUTSCH (AP) – 40 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES — It's been almost three months since Michael Jackson's shocking death, and while Los Angeles police are close to wrapping up their investigation, the decision on whether to bring criminal charges is at least weeks and perhaps months away, legal experts say.

Last month the Los Angeles County coroner ruled Jackson's June 25 death a homicide caused primarily by the powerful anesthetic propofol in combination with the sedative lorazepam. Both were administered in Jackson's mansion by his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray.

Murray is the target of what police term a manslaughter investigation but the probe is far broader, encompassing a half-dozen doctors who treated Jackson over the years. Police and federal Drug Enforcement Administration agents are trying to reconstruct Jackson's extensive drug history, a task made more difficult because the pop star used pseudonyms to obtain medications.

Tracking down where Jackson got drugs, who provided them, how much his prior drug use contributed to his death and lining up experts to distill complex medical information into layman's terms for a jury is time-consuming.

"There's no reason for anyone to jump the gun on this," said Greg D. Lee, a retired supervising DEA agent. "Time is on their side. There's no imminent danger to the public from Dr. Murray."

The decision on criminal charges will come from the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. Spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said a request for charges comes after a police investigation is completed and prosecutors examine the evidence themselves. "We haven't been presented with anything," she said.

Except for a brief video posted to YouTube, Murray has not spoken publicly since Jackson's death. In the video, he said: "I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail."

Murray's attorney, Edward Chernoff, did not return a message seeking comment but previously has said nothing Murray gave Jackson "should have" killed him.

Murray has been interviewed twice by police. According to court records, he told investigators that over about six hours he injected Jackson with two doses each of lorazepam and midazolam. Finally, around 10:40 a.m. on June 25, Murray said he succumbed to Jackson's demands and administered propofol, a drug Murray said he had given Jackson every night for six weeks to allow him to sleep.

Propofol commonly is used to render patients unconscious for surgery. It's only supposed to be administered by anesthesia professionals in medical settings and, because of its potency, requires the patient be closely monitored at all times. Using propofol strictly as a sleep agent violates medical guidelines.

The coroner's finding of homicide, or death at the hands of another, does not automatically mean a crime was committed. To bring a manslaughter charge, prosecutors must show there was a reckless action that created a risk of death or great bodily injury. If a doctor is aware of the risk, there might also be an issue of whether the patient knows that risk and decided to take it.

Dr. Jayson Hymes, an anesthesiologist and specialist in pain medication and addiction, said authorities are confronted with a central question: "It's not illegal to be a bad doctor but when does it go from bad medicine to so unbelievably stupid it's criminal negligence?"

He said investigators may be questioning Murray's claim that he was trying to "wean" Jackson off the powerful anesthetic by giving him decreasing doses.

"It makes no sense," said Hymes. "You don't wean people off propofol. People don't go around craving propofol. What he needed to be weaned off of were all the other drugs."

As for Jackson's demand for propofol, he said, "He didn't understand that anesthesia is not sleep. If he wanted restorative sleep, he was going in the wrong direction."

Los Angeles attorney Harland Braun, a celebrity defense attorney who also has represented doctors in court, suggested prosecutors may take the case to a grand jury and let it investigate the evidence and recommend action.

Loyola University Law School professor Laurie Levenson said history hangs over prosecutors as they build the case. The district attorney's office is shadowed by memories of the O.J. Simpson and Robert Blake murder acquittals and the Phil Spector case that took two trials just to win a manslaughter conviction.

Prosecutors will want to make sure they have a very strong case before proceeding.

"There's no question that a bad thing happened," she said of Jackson's death. "But you need to prove to 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt that it is manslaughter. That's a very high threshold."

Vesna Maras, a former Los Angeles deputy district attorney who spent 12 years trying medical and pharmacological cases for the office, noted it is not illegal to simply administer propofol.

"If he didn't research the drug that would be conscious disregard of the risk to human life, which is second-degree murder," she said. "If he did research it, was aware of the risks and didn't exercise due caution and circumspection before administering it, that is involuntary manslaughter."

Criminal defense attorney Steve Cron cited the fact other agencies including the DEA have simultaneous probes involving other doctors who prescribed medications to Jackson and pharmacies that filled the prescriptions. If all investigations must be completed before charges are filed, it could take considerable time.

In the Anna Nicole Smith drug case, it took authorities 2 1/2 years to bring charges against her doctors and boyfriend. And the counts were less serious — supplying drugs to an addict.

Lee noted once charges are filed, "the clock starts ticking" on statutory time limits for prosecution. So, "what's the rush?" he said. "I don't see any urgency on the part of the government."
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:03 pm

I dont know what to make of this. Reading the article, it sounds scary like things are gettin serious, like they are REALLY trying to investigate other doctors. Could this mean that MJ isn't alive? Someone plz tell me Im wrong.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:12 pm

Why does this not surprise me. We have all been saying for a long time that you can't charge someone for a crime they didn't commit. It's hard to slap a murder or manslaughter charge on someone when they didn't kill anyone.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:12 pm

Why does this not surprise me. We have all been saying for a long time that you can't charge someone for a crime they didn't commit. It's hard to slap a murder or manslaughter charge on someone when they didn't kill anyone.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:16 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:Why does this not surprise me. We have all been saying for a long time that you can't charge someone for a crime they didn't commit. It's hard to slap a murder or manslaughter charge on someone when they didn't kill anyone.

....and Miss kdkennedy wins the GOLD STAR for the day!!! LOL
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Post by neverlandprincess on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:19 pm

hmmmm-it would not be hard to convince 12 jurors it was manslaughter if ANYBODY was left for as long as MJ was left before 911 was called!
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Post by hungry on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:21 pm

I don't know what to say.
But I still believe that he is alive.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:21 pm

YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO
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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:23 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO



You can borrow him, but I want him back again after you are done

lmao

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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:24 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO



You can borrow him, but I want him back again after you are done

lmao

If you insist but I must warn you that it will be a VERY late night!!!!!
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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:25 pm

If Doctor Muarry gets arrested I will have a breakdown. But to be hornest, shouldent he have been arrested by now??

LAPD suck.

I think they should stop the dope smokeing and the donut eating, and get a new education, instedt of the one the clearly draw in a wending machine.

I`m just saying


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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:26 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO



You can borrow him, but I want him back again after you are done

lmao

If you insist but I must warn you that it will be a VERY late night!!!!!


I dont mind waiting up for him. have him home by 2am, that his cufue

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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:31 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO



You can borrow him, but I want him back again after you are done

lmao

If you insist but I must warn you that it will be a VERY late night!!!!!


I dont mind waiting up for him. have him home by 2am, that his cufue


2 a.m. !?! I will barely be getting started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make is 5 a.m. and we will have a deal!
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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:39 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO



You can borrow him, but I want him back again after you are done

lmao

If you insist but I must warn you that it will be a VERY late night!!!!!


I dont mind waiting up for him. have him home by 2am, that his cufue


2 a.m. !?! I will barely be getting started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make is 5 a.m. and we will have a deal!


Okey then.. But enjoy.. Hes miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine lol

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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:13 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:YAY I finally got a gold star...can I trade it for a date with Michael...LMAO



You can borrow him, but I want him back again after you are done

lmao



If you insist but I must warn you that it will be a VERY late night!!!!!


I dont mind waiting up for him. have him home by 2am, that his cufue


2 a.m. !?! I will barely be getting started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make is 5 a.m. and we will have a deal!


Okey then.. But enjoy.. Hes miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine lol


That's fine...I only need one night!!!!! LMAO
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Post by mjssoulmate on Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:57 pm

Once he is arrested the clock starts ticking and there is time limit in which they can keep him. That's why it takes so long. They have to make sure their ducks are all in a row. (Or wait long enough for Michael to come back, which ever comes first)
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Post by mjssoulmate on Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:58 pm

And why has Murray been interviewed only twice? Seems to me there should be a lot more questioning going on. What ever happened to the good cop, bad cop routine?
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Post by mjssoulmate on Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:00 pm

The same with Alberto Alvarez and someone else, whose name I can't remember. I read that two interviews were set up with them, and the cops failed to show up.

What's up with that?
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Post by TheKiddNerd on Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:16 pm

Wow this is crazy
I skipped school and the arrested me quickly without tellinq me when they were qoinq to do it but
this quy "kills" someone yet he's walkinq around and their droppinq hints that tell him when their qoinq to do it.
Geez...What a crazy world
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Post by mjssoulmate on Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:18 pm

Maybe we should stick truancy officers on him. LOL
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Post by DawneVee on Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:25 pm

My husband and I were going back and forth last night about MJ being alive. He knows I believe MJ is indeed alive and he believes he's dead.
So we were going at this debate and I got him silenced when I said "why hasn't Doc Murray been arrested then, LAPD has all the info they need, but Doc is walking around a free man".
Hubby was silenced. Hee hee.

HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Guest on Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:26 pm

DawneVee wrote:My husband and I were going back and forth last night about MJ being alive. He knows I believe MJ is indeed alive and he believes he's dead.
So we were going at this debate and I got him silenced when I said "why hasn't Doc Murray been arrested then, LAPD has all the info they need, but Doc is walking around a free man".
Hubby was silenced. Hee hee.

HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah typical men. When do they learn to listen

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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:45 pm

DawneVee wrote:My husband and I were going back and forth last night about MJ being alive. He knows I believe MJ is indeed alive and he believes he's dead.
So we were going at this debate and I got him silenced when I said "why hasn't Doc Murray been arrested then, LAPD has all the info they need, but Doc is walking around a free man".
Hubby was silenced. Hee hee.

HOAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have to love it when you can shut a man up just by giving him something to think about!!!! LMAO
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