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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:36 am

I was just reading some threads at MJHD and someone copied and posted this question that Cassandra was asked:

Hey Cassandra, so Michael is really alive and your not pulling our legs so to speak?
I was so devestated when and cried so hard when I heard about it, I mean cardiac arrest is serious,
so who was buried on September 3rd? Was Michael’s family in on the whole thing?
Could Michael get in trouble for faking his death? Does Michael even read this website?
So he only plans to come out of hiding next year?

This was Cassandra's reply:

[Ximena, as noted previously in numerous replies to letters, the answers to your questions are:
Michael was not buried on Sept. 3 (and what makes you think ANYONE was buried?),
Michael has chosen not to implicate or involve his family in any way,
Michael used his money, power and influence to avoid breaking any laws in regard to his "death",
Michael does read posts, and yes. Cassandra]

Now, I know that there has been a big debate amongst ourselves and the members @ MJHD regarding the validity of this Cassandra and I was more inclined to believe CGS before she made this statement. I find it EXTREMELY hard to comprehend that the family isn't involved. Can you imagine if they don't know he's alive? And they've been acting this way? Also, this really contradicts what she said in earlier posts. Look at this:


Hello Cassandra,
1. Where is he?
2. Is he OK?
3. Is he in touch with his children?
4. Will he come out of hiding someday?
[Eastern Europe (but moving around). Yes. Yes. Yes. Cassandra]

And I couldn't find the post but there was another one where she told someone that the Jacksons were acting and they were definitely apart of it...she changes her story too often for this to be real!
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:40 am

Yup, noticed that, too. Once she said smth like-"havent u even thought that Paris was acting?"-about her speech..then she says-they r not involved. BS, too bad, but still...BS...and hate to say-i was close to believe it....
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:48 am

Angie777 wrote:Yup, noticed that, too. Once she said smth like-"havent u even thought that Paris was acting?"-about her speech..then she says-they r not involved. BS, too bad, but still...BS...and hate to say-i was close to believe it....

Yep that's the post I was trying to find. And my thoughts exactly, I almost began to believe her.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:57 am

This doesnt mean I believe her but.....MJ would HAVE to tell his family that he was faking his death. How could he not? I dont think he would let his fam believe he is dead when he isnt. SOO.........they KNOW he's not dead, but they dont know WHY he did it. He doesnt want them involved....but they know he's not dead....look at they way theyve acted!! That could be the contradiction right there....just a thought.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:03 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:This doesnt mean I believe her but.....MJ would HAVE to tell his family that he was faking his death. How could he not? I dont think he would let his fam believe he is dead when he isnt. SOO.........they KNOW he's not dead, but they dont know WHY he did it. He doesnt want them involved....but they know he's not dead....look at they way theyve acted!! That could be the contradiction right there....just a thought.

I hope you're right. Maybe Cassandra meant it in that way....
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Post by iLOVEu Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:03 am

Does anyone else think that Michael or a family member could in fact be involved in this story but in another way...that is to cause some more distraction and contradicting stories?

Cassandra stated that MJ did in fact have a problem with the drugs...and she said that he got away to get better,etc...but then...why would there be clues in the movie?

If not even the family knows about this, clearly KO and AEG, Sony people don't know...

It's just another source of contradicting stories but still...a source that gives hope to some non-believers maybe, still a source that plants the seed of doubt in some people who thought he was dead.

And it is a sorce that plants the seed of doubt in the ones that believed the movie was going be something big and important...she says there are only clues...

I think the movie will be nothing of what we expect giving the contradictions on that subject...seems like nobody knows the real information on that movie!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:17 am

I believe we are being told things to confuse us on purpose. I have said this SO many times before.
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Post by Banessa Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:19 am

luvmjalways wrote::
[Ximena, as noted previously in numerous replies to letters, the answers to your questions are:
Michael was not buried on Sept. 3 (and what makes you think ANYONE was buried?),
Michael has chosen not to implicate or involve his family in any way,
Michael used his money, power and influence to avoid breaking any laws in regard to his "death",
Michael does read posts, and yes. Cassandra]

IMO she contradicts herself in this response as well! How can the family not be aware they didn't buried anyone??? They had to have known the casket was empty!

I agree with Jacksonologist! They Know he is not "DEAD". I think he wouldn't have the people that he loved believeing he is "dead". Just a thought. I'm not sure about Cassandra! BTW I love your siggy Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_wink
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:24 am

@Banessa, wow! you're really observant. I didnt even notice that lol
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Post by Banessa Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:30 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:I believe we are being told things to confuse us on purpose. I have said this SO many times before.

You're right! I think the more info. We get the more confusion it creates among us! Your siggy, OMG!!! Mesmerizing eyes! I can stare at them all day. Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_wink


@ luvmjalways I think I read too much into things (it's an obsession) lol
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Post by J.J_loves_MJ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:31 am

Banessa wrote:
luvmjalways wrote::
[Ximena, as noted previously in numerous replies to letters, the answers to your questions are:
Michael was not buried on Sept. 3 (and what makes you think ANYONE was buried?),
Michael has chosen not to implicate or involve his family in any way,
Michael used his money, power and influence to avoid breaking any laws in regard to his "death",
Michael does read posts, and yes. Cassandra]

IMO she contradicts herself in this response as well! How can the family not be aware they didn't buried anyone??? They had to have known the casket was empty!

I agree with Jacksonologist! They Know he is not "DEAD". I think he wouldn't have the people that he loved believeing he is "dead". Just a thought. I'm not sure about Cassandra! BTW I love your siggy Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_wink

Yes! The Jackson family knows about the hoax. If they dont then... they are HEARTLESS!
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Post by mommy Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:35 am

... and I'm still awaiting moderation.... Contradicting Cassandra! Sleep Contradicting Cassandra! Sleep Contradicting Cassandra! Sleep since sept 17th at 7pm and she promised a reply within 48 hours my a$$
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Post by neverlandprincess Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:39 am

Also just becuase his kids may know and be acting-does not mean he has INVOLVED the entire Jackson clan. I don't see him going away and not tellin the kids-but I kinda do see him going away and not telling certain family members.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:42 am

neverlandprincess wrote:Also just becuase his kids may know and be acting-does not mean he has INVOLVED the entire Jackson clan. I don't see him going away and not tellin the kids-but I kinda do see him going away and not telling certain family members.


In a hoax video I watched last night on YouTube created by someone named "Spungoo" (She has a series of these vids btw), she brought up the possibility of all the Jacksons being on it except for Jermaine (she says this is why Jermaine planned that stupid Vienna tribute only to have it fail) and then she suggested that later on, the rest of the family had to inform Jermaine that Michael is still alive to prevent him from doing any more stupid stuff...she might be onto something.


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Post by CantlivewithoutMJ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:43 am

And i thoght this all is true Crying or Very sad

Oh,i should be more careful.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:46 am

CantlivewithoutMJ wrote:And i thoght this all is true Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_cry

Oh,i should be more careful.


You have to guard your heart. It's the only way you will not be disappointed when things turn out differently. This whole "Michael Jackson death" thing holds a lot of emotions for everyone; sadness, disappointment, anger, confusion, skepticism, happiness (when we see something that points to MJ possibly being alive of course) and plenty others. Just beware.... Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_bounce
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Post by CantlivewithoutMJ Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:49 am

luvmjalways wrote:
CantlivewithoutMJ wrote:And i thoght this all is true Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_cry

Oh,i should be more careful.


You have to guard your heart. It's the only way you will not be disappointed when things turn out differently. This whole "Michael Jackson death" thing holds a lot of emotions for everyone; sadness, disappointment, anger, confusion, skepticism, happiness (when we see something that points to MJ possibly being alive of course) and plenty others. Just beware.... Contradicting Cassandra! Icon_bounce

Thank you for these kind word,i be more careful and follow my heart.
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:07 pm

luvmjalways wrote:I was just reading some threads at MJHD and someone copied and posted this question that Cassandra was asked:

Hey Cassandra, so Michael is really alive and your not pulling our legs so to speak?
I was so devestated when and cried so hard when I heard about it, I mean cardiac arrest is serious,
so who was buried on September 3rd? Was Michael’s family in on the whole thing?
Could Michael get in trouble for faking his death? Does Michael even read this website?
So he only plans to come out of hiding next year?

This was Cassandra's reply:

[Ximena, as noted previously in numerous replies to letters, the answers to your questions are:
Michael was not buried on Sept. 3 (and what makes you think ANYONE was buried?),
Michael has chosen not to implicate or involve his family in any way,
Michael used his money, power and influence to avoid breaking any laws in regard to his "death",
Michael does read posts, and yes. Cassandra]

Now, I know that there has been a big debate amongst ourselves and the members @ MJHD regarding the validity of this Cassandra and I was more inclined to believe CGS before she made this statement. I find it EXTREMELY hard to comprehend that the family isn't involved. Can you imagine if they don't know he's alive? And they've been acting this way? Also, this really contradicts what she said in earlier posts. Look at this:


Hello Cassandra,
1. Where is he?
2. Is he OK?
3. Is he in touch with his children?
4. Will he come out of hiding someday?
[Eastern Europe (but moving around). Yes. Yes. Yes. Cassandra]

And I couldn't find the post but there was another one where she told someone that the Jacksons were acting and they were definitely apart of it...she changes her story too often for this to be real!


What is wrong with this answer? She answered it correctly.

Where is he? Eastern Europe
Is he OK? Yes
Will he come out of hiding someday? yes
Is he in touch with his children? yes

She cant give the same answer to everyone, that would be fake then...
I believe in her, until proven otherwise for me.
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Post by neverlandprincess Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:13 pm

NICE magicangel! you are the first to jsut admit that-I have posted 3 questions since the start of the whole thing-I still dont have any answers and I ahve no idea why MJ would send her to that news source-they have like fantasy news...hmmmm theres a thought. Maybe thats why. I am interested everytime she has answers though.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:33 pm

[quote="MagicAngel"]
luvmjalways wrote:I was just reading some threads at MJHD and someone copied and posted this question that Cassandra was asked:


What is wrong with this answer? She answered it correctly.

Where is he? Eastern Europe
Is he OK? Yes
Will he come out of hiding someday? yes
Is he in touch with his children? yes

She cant give the same answer to everyone, that would be fake then...
I believe in her, until proven otherwise for me.

I understand she can't give the same exact answer everytime but her answers are completely contradicting each other. Please pay attention to what I was saying; She told one person that MJ's family is not involved in the hoax yet she answers other questions by telling ppl that they are. How could MJ be in touch with his children without his family knowing? They obviously would have to know that he is alive if his kids are in Katherine's custody. Do you get it now?
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Post by Guest Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:50 pm

[quote="luvmjalways"]
MagicAngel wrote:
luvmjalways wrote:I was just reading some threads at MJHD and someone copied and posted this question that Cassandra was asked:


What is wrong with this answer? She answered it correctly.

Where is he? Eastern Europe
Is he OK? Yes
Will he come out of hiding someday? yes
Is he in touch with his children? yes

She cant give the same answer to everyone, that would be fake then...
I believe in her, until proven otherwise for me.

I understand she can't give the same exact answer everytime but her answers are completely contradicting each other. Please pay attention to what I was saying; She told one person that MJ's family is not involved in the hoax yet she answers other questions by telling ppl that they are. How could MJ be in touch with his children without his family knowing? They obviously would have to know that he is alive if his kids are in Katherine's custody. Do you get it now?


Not really!!!! I havn`t seen her answer it that way. Ofcause his family knows, its a little hard for Michael to be in contact with the children without Katherine knowing about it..

I paid attention to what he said about the movie, if that is not true, I wont believe in her again.. But until then, I have to give her the bennefit of the doubt.

Mabye I will get a huge slap in my face. But I cant help ii, I have always been this way.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:01 pm

[quote="MagicAngel"]
luvmjalways wrote:
MagicAngel wrote:
luvmjalways wrote:I was just reading some threads at MJHD and someone copied and posted this question that Cassandra was asked:


What is wrong with this answer? She answered it correctly.

Where is he? Eastern Europe
Is he OK? Yes
Will he come out of hiding someday? yes
Is he in touch with his children? yes

She cant give the same answer to everyone, that would be fake then...
I believe in her, until proven otherwise for me.

I understand she can't give the same exact answer everytime but her answers are completely contradicting each other. Please pay attention to what I was saying; She told one person that MJ's family is not involved in the hoax yet she answers other questions by telling ppl that they are. How could MJ be in touch with his children without his family knowing? They obviously would have to know that he is alive if his kids are in Katherine's custody. Do you get it now?


Not really!!!! I havn`t seen her answer it that way. Ofcause his family knows, its a little hard for Michael to be in contact with the children without Katherine knowing about it..

I paid attention to what he said about the movie, if that is not true, I wont believe in her again.. But until then, I have to give her the bennefit of the doubt.

Mabye I will get a huge slap in my face. But I cant help ii, I have always been this way.


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[quote="luvmjalways"]
MagicAngel wrote:
luvmjalways wrote:
MagicAngel wrote:
luvmjalways wrote:I was just reading some threads at MJHD and someone copied and posted this question that Cassandra was asked:


What is wrong with this answer? She answered it correctly.

Where is he? Eastern Europe
Is he OK? Yes
Will he come out of hiding someday? yes
Is he in touch with his children? yes

She cant give the same answer to everyone, that would be fake then...
I believe in her, until proven otherwise for me.

I understand she can't give the same exact answer everytime but her answers are completely contradicting each other. Please pay attention to what I was saying; She told one person that MJ's family is not involved in the hoax yet she answers other questions by telling ppl that they are. How could MJ be in touch with his children without his family knowing? They obviously would have to know that he is alive if his kids are in Katherine's custody. Do you get it now?


Not really!!!! I havn`t seen her answer it that way. Ofcause his family knows, its a little hard for Michael to be in contact with the children without Katherine knowing about it..

I paid attention to what he said about the movie, if that is not true, I wont believe in her again.. But until then, I have to give her the bennefit of the doubt.

Mabye I will get a huge slap in my face. But I cant help ii, I have always been this way.


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Post by marsheliamorgan Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:39 pm

just my opinon but,she says Michael has chosen not to implicate or involve his family in any way" which to me says,MICHAEL is NOT going to come out and implicate ANYONE else's involvement in this,that doesnt mean to say THEY DONT know about it,just HE isnt going to IMPLICATE anyone,in other words,if THEY later on come out and say,YES,we knew,then they implicate themselves,and HE hasnt put them in THAT position.just an opinion.
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Post by marsheliamorgan Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:45 pm

in other words,if they want to admit to knowing about it later on,possibly,then that will be on them to come out and admit it, HE isnt going to make anyone fall on the sword,he is taking full responsiblity AND not IMPLICATING anyone else's knowledge about it.

i dont know whether to believe her or not,i dont like the way she seems to be picking and choosing which questions to answer and respond to,however,i dont know (IF) possibly michael is TELLING her to answer in this way (?)as to have several different interptations of the SAME answer?in other words,like the bible,just because 9 different people read the same passage,you are likely to get 9 DIFFERENT interpatations of that SAME passage. am i explaining it right?just a thought
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:46 pm

marsheliamorgan wrote:just my opinon but,she says Michael has chosen not to implicate or involve his family in any way" which to me says,MICHAEL is NOT going to come out and implicate ANYONE else's involvement in this,that doesnt mean to say THEY DONT know about it,just HE isnt going to IMPLICATE anyone,in other words,if THEY later on come out and say,YES,we knew,then they implicate themselves,and HE hasnt put them in THAT position.just an opinion.


Mmmm you could be right. The wording is confusing now.
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Post by marsheliamorgan Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:11 pm

again,i am wondering if the confusing wording is done ON PURPOSE,so that it can be taken to mean 2 or different things,or ways,comes down to who is interpeting it,i guess,and their own take and meaning they get.i dont know.but,i am so NOT wanting to be led astray AGAIN,just think this kind of thing has only been going on what 3 months?think how michael MUST have felt with it going on for what 45 years of the entertainment world!!!!!!! i can most assuradly understand him wanting to disappear,hoax his death,and be done with it,as the things that he said that were twisted MUCH worse than what we are getting,get played with and such. this world is so NOT FAIR
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:39 am

Funny, tons of new questions have been asked of Cassandra but the number seems to have stayed at 412 for about 2 days now. She only answered one new question (the one mentioned in the beginning of this thread) and now she has stopped. She says she is very busy and has "an adult Down Syndrome daughter" so I guess that could explain why she hasn't been answering but it's just weird.
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Post by andrea_garay2005 Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:48 am

hi,
I have just joined....well, I found it weard that Cassandra said there would be hundreds of concerts all over the world for free...only for the fans to see Michael...well, I don't know about that. And as fans started asking if there would be any concerts in their country...she would give a positive answer to almost all of them....I don't believe that one....
What do you think?
Love you Mike
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Post by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:59 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:This doesnt mean I believe her but.....MJ would HAVE to tell his family that he was faking his death. How could he not? I dont think he would let his fam believe he is dead when he isnt. SOO.........they KNOW he's not dead, but they dont know WHY he did it. He doesnt want them involved....but they know he's not dead....look at they way theyve acted!! That could be the contradiction right there....just a thought.


@The Jacksonologist-I'm with you on this one. I'm not saying I believe her either but maybe she means he doesn't want them involved now or implicate them in the hoax in any way.
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4evermichael71 wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:This doesnt mean I believe her but.....MJ would HAVE to tell his family that he was faking his death. How could he not? I dont think he would let his fam believe he is dead when he isnt. SOO.........they KNOW he's not dead, but they dont know WHY he did it. He doesnt want them involved....but they know he's not dead....look at they way theyve acted!! That could be the contradiction right there....just a thought.


@The Jacksonologist-I'm with you on this one. I'm not saying I believe her either but maybe she means he doesn't want them involved now or implicate them in the hoax in any way.

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Post by queenpanther55 Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:14 am

i just dont get it.

If MJ takes full responsibility of hoaxing his death then why should he risk himself and send someone to communicate with us and tell that He is by the way ALIVE?

I don't know where those INFORMERS heading.But seems that none of them has revealed anything unusual.. Their revelations were all the same as what we read on some other forums.

I would rather believe in my own theory, He is ALIVE but I will not seek for anyone to tell me, or give me clues. The clues are those that were not written..CLues that is unusual to you.. Clues that you knew something is really wrong..
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Post by andrea_garay2005 Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:03 am

you could be right.....I don't know what's up with these clues...maybe is that most of the time peolpe want to see things that just aren't there, I mean if you go hiding from the world why giving clues at all.....it makes me feel like this is a game or something, and honestly this is not funny for any of us...Is hard to see the truth with so much confusion around.
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