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Post by hAZZELY on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:08 pm

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25901014-5005368,00.html
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:27 pm

Just a few comments / first reactions:

Lee told him the drug was dangerous. He brushed aside her concerns. "He was sure that as long as he was monitored, he would be OK," Lee said.

Yet Dr. Murray didn't have a heart / breathing monitor attached to MJ when he administered Propofol nor a defibrillator. I don't think the cost of such equipment was an obstacle.

Jackson was at most rehearsals, where he would either perform or watch at the front of the stage. They would play eight songs before breaking for 10 minutes and doing it all again. They did this for up to eight hours a day, five days a week a heavy workload by anyone’s standards.

Certainly something that a sick old frail addicted man could not do.

"It was a warm, loving house," Lee remembers. The children were multilingual and home schooled. Jackson would quiz them on black history and employed teachers for special tuition.

I'm having a hard time believing a sick old frail heavily addicted man can also be such a wonderful caring father at the same time.

She ran blood tests and although she declines to go into detail, the only abnormality she found was a common one easily fixed by a slight change to his diet.

So... no evidence of hard core drug use came up in the blood tests? Just a slight change in diet would make him perfect?

Lee suggested he turn off his computer, which played Disney cartoons.

I thought Karen Faye said Michael didn't know how to use a computer or even insert a DVD to watch a movie.

With such confusions don't it make you wanna scream?


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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:28 pm

hAZZELY wrote:http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25901014-5005368,00.html


That nurse is so full of BS.
Michael is terrified of needles.
Why would he wanna be nocked out?? There is many other ways, to get som sleep than this.

I dont believe this stupid women one bit.

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Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:49 pm

Actually I saw an interview with Lee in which was asked if Michael was a drug addict. Her response: absolutely not.

MyBelovedMJ was Michael really terrified of needles? He may have been at one time, but when you spend so much time having procedures done you eventually get over it.
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Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:52 pm

I have seen Michael sittingin front of and using a computer in two separate clips. Of course he knows how to use a computer. He had to deal with them doing recordings and demos.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:59 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:I have seen Michael sittingin front of and using a computer in two separate clips. Of course he knows how to use a computer. He had to deal with them doing recordings and demos.

Just for the record: I know he could use a computer. I was just pointing out contradictions within the article or between the article and information from other sources.
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:00 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:Actually I saw an interview with Lee in which was asked if Michael was a drug addict. Her response: absolutely not.

MyBelovedMJ was Michael really terrified of needles? He may have been at one time, but when you spend so much time having procedures done you eventually get over it.

Yes he was. Mabye he did get over it.. But I still find it hard to believe that he wanted to be nocked out like that. Specially if he feared for his life. You know what I mean?

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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:04 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:But I still find it hard to believe that he wanted to be nocked out like that. Specially if he feared for his life. You know what I mean?

I agree 100%.

If you fear for your (and your children's) life / safety, even if you are addicted to certain medications, there's NO WAY you would be seeking a drug to knock you out unconscious every night.
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by Red Velvet on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:20 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:But I still find it hard to believe that he wanted to be nocked out like that. Specially if he feared for his life. You know what I mean?

I agree 100%.

If you fear for your (and your children's) life / safety, even if you are addicted to certain medications, there's NO WAY you would be seeking a drug to knock you out unconscious every night.
Agree, especially if you're a person who's paranoid that someone's trying to kill you to begin with, and one who places a high value on long-term acquaintancships, and one who believes in only working with the very best and you've only known this doctor 3 years and he has a dodgy track record to include the fact that someone has died on this doctors watch.
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Post by hungry on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:26 pm

It was the middle of the night but as bright as day in Jackson’s
enormous bedroom. How sad that Jackson the man who created Thriller
could only ever sleep with the lights on.
This made me cry a bit.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:28 pm

Red Velvet wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:But I still find it hard to believe that he wanted to be nocked out like that. Specially if he feared for his life. You know what I mean?

I agree 100%.

If you fear for your (and your children's) life / safety, even if you are addicted to certain medications, there's NO WAY you would be seeking a drug to knock you out unconscious every night.
Agree, especially if you're a person who's paranoid that someone's trying to kill you to begin with, and one who places a high value on long-term acquaintancships, and one who believes in only working with the very best and you've only known this doctor 3 years and he has a dodgy track record to include the fact that someone has died on this doctors watch.

The more we investigate and learn, the more the Propofol story falls apart.
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:29 pm

Red Velvet wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:But I still find it hard to believe that he wanted to be nocked out like that. Specially if he feared for his life. You know what I mean?

I agree 100%.

If you fear for your (and your children's) life / safety, even if you are addicted to certain medications, there's NO WAY you would be seeking a drug to knock you out unconscious every night.
Agree, especially if you're a person who's paranoid that someone's trying to kill you to begin with, and one who places a high value on long-term acquaintancships, and one who believes in only working with the very best and you've only known this doctor 3 years and he has a dodgy track record to include the fact that someone has died on this doctors watch.


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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:33 pm

hungry wrote:
It was the middle of the night but as bright as day in Jackson’s
enormous bedroom. How sad that Jackson the man who created Thriller
could only ever sleep with the lights on.
This made me cry a bit.

All he needs is a woman to cuddle with at night. Wink
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:39 pm

I completely agree that Michael would not want to be knocked out like that. I always said that Lee was planting the seed for the Propofol search.
I was merely pointing out that he probably got over his fear of needles.
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:41 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
hungry wrote:
It was the middle of the night but as bright as day in Jackson’s
enormous bedroom. How sad that Jackson the man who created Thriller
could only ever sleep with the lights on.
This made me cry a bit.

All he needs is a woman to cuddle with at night.


Absolutely! That's all it would take.
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Post by hungry on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:51 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
hungry wrote:
It was the middle of the night but as bright as day in Jackson’s
enormous bedroom. How sad that Jackson the man who created Thriller
could only ever sleep with the lights on.
This made me cry a bit.

All he needs is a woman to cuddle with at night.
This makes me wonder if he did have a secret girlfriend all these years/months... didn't anyone watch that video from youtube where Michael's bodyguard revealed that he did have a secret girlfriend? Is it true? It made me feel happy, but also sad because I want to know who she is. Very Happy
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Post by Truth_or_Dare on Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:58 am

While reading this article the song "We don't need another hero" came to mind...
What a "brave" nurse to say no to MJ..
and Klein...i thought they were friends...then why did he sue him in 2005? Just wondering..can't friends settle it in a friendly way...or maybe it's just the american way of suing for anything...sorry, don't mean to offend any americans here..I love America

So many wrong things with this story...
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:47 am

Well, here's my question.
If, when they raided his house in 1993 and found all these Rx drugs for MJ in other peoples names, why did they not do anything at that point?
It is highly illegal for a doctor to prescribe a med to someone in someone elses name.....
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by MJSmile4Us on Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:49 am

mjssoulmate wrote:I have seen Michael sittingin front of and using a computer in two separate clips. Of course he knows how to use a computer. He had to deal with them doing recordings and demos.

I agree with u - if Michael used and manipulated music recording equipments which must have been just as or more complex than what would have taken to operate a computer, surfing the net or checking his e-mails (if he had one of course given that there must've been strict security issues) would have been a piece of cake!
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Re: "What >really< happened to MJ"

Post by ~Susie~ on Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:22 am

annieisnotokey wrote:
mjssoulmate wrote:I have seen Michael sittingin front of and using a computer in two separate clips. Of course he knows how to use a computer. He had to deal with them doing recordings and demos.

Just for the record: I know he could use a computer. I was just pointing out contradictions within the article or between the article and information from other sources.

That's what I found out. I don't know how accurate this website is, but if this is true, which is what I believe most, then Michael did know how to use a computer.It is NOT the hole thing, as it is for his finances.You can read the hole thing on this website http://michaeljacksonnotdead.wordpress.com/



Not even a few days after the ‘death’ of Michael Jackson, Joe Jackson appeared at the BET Awards. You can read about that in my previous post. During an interview, Joe Jackson plugged ‘Ranch Records’. As another forum reader mentioned, the name is Ranch Records – ie. Neverland Ranch! Extremely interesting…coincidence? I think NOT! Here is what Joe Jackson’s partner Marshall Thompson had to say about Ranch Records: “It’s driven by Blu-ray technology, and that’s his next step.” HIS next step? Whose next step? Joe Jackson was never an investor…he did create the Jackson 5 partially, but thats about it. So WHOSE next step is it? Sounds like a huge slip of tongue by Marshall Thompson.

Initially, I did not think much of Ranch Records or the slip-of-tongue by Marshall Thompson. Not until I did some research on the aliases that Michael Jackson supposedly used to obtain drugs and visit doctors. Remember, you are reading this here first.

  • Paul Farance is the alias Michael Jackson used. In reality, the name refers to Paul France – CEO of Fantastic One. Fantastic One is a media company that usesnew technologies. Prior to this, Paul France launched Asia Business News in 1993, which eventually merged with CNBC to create CNBC Asia in 1998. In Paul France’s own words: “”I have been very closely associated with Internet developments and have felt that the true value of new media has been held back by bandwidth restraints.Now that broadband is coming on stream I am genuinely excited about the potential for this revolution.Through its parent companies,FantasticOne has the technology and the experience in content delivery to truly make this revolution of Digital Broadband Multimedia come about.”
  • Omar Arnold is another alias Michael Jackson used. Who is Omar Arnold? In reality, he is the CEO and owner of Quantum Sales & Technology Incorporated. Its even located in California – very convenient. Its a company that deals with Audio Systems. They even support organizations that promote music programs in schools across the USA.
  • Jimmy Nicholas was another one of Michael Jackson’s alias. Jimmy Nicholas is actually the vice president of business development for MokaFive, a technology based organization. He has a track record of working win operations and finance, and has background in developing partnerships for venture software companies. Prior to this, he worked with TriplePoint Capital, where he was responsible for venture transactions with parters of the firm. Along with a lot of other experience in venture firms, he was also the CEO of Oxford Media Corporation – which was dedicated for providing digital video technology.
  • In 2000, Media reports indicate that Michael Jackson invested several million dollars in HollywoodTicket.com, which was a firm that wanted to maximize internet technology. Unfortunately, this start-up firm that did not perform so well initially and there are reports that it changed its company direction.
  • Brian Singleton, Michael Jackson’s alias is actually the Chief Creative Producer and Officer of Attention Span Media. This company is also conveniently located in Los Angeles, and Brian has worked with the entertainment industry via production of various sitcoms, was a News Producer of KHIZ TV and now is focusing upon New Media.
  • Peter Midani was the alias Michael Jackson used – but actually referred to Peter Madonia. Since 2006, he has been the Chief Operating Officer of the Rockefeller Foundation, and oversees human and financial resources, information technology, facilities and such. Prior to this, he was the Chief of Staff to New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg – who paid a tribute to Michael Jackson. Interestingly, Bloomberg announced on July 7th 2009 that he wanted to help the slumped media industry, by creating 8,000 jobs. How? By creating partnerships between traditional and digital media, and attracting foreign investments by media companies. They would also create fellowships for training with venture firms. Not only this, but a World Congress of Children was hosted at Neverland in April 1995, where in addition to other supporters, Michael Jackson’s Heal The World Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation was a sponsor.
  • The other aliases were names of friends, his children, other celebrities, or his staff.


As you can see, there is the very strong possibility that the aliases that Michael Jackson used were those of people that he knew. From the list above, they all happened to be leading individuals associated with media and technology industries. Prior evidence indicates that Michael Jackson was an investor of start-up companies associated with technology. Not only that, but surprisingly Ranch Records is also focusing on supporting new media technologies.
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Post by hAZZELY on Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:32 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/5496936/What-are-the-odds-Michael-Jackson-will-call-it-all-off.html

If Jackson’s apparently reluctant and oft-delayed return to the live arena was driven by financial necessity, then 800,000 advance ticket sales may have alleviated his most pressing credit problems. The notion that he might be looking for an exit strategy was given further credence by a bizarre outburst at his rehearsal studio in LA last week, where he described himself as “really angry” with the promoters and whinged, “I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m not a big eater – I need to put some weight on.” (Quick, give the man a lucrative endorsement with a fast-food company.)
At least Jackson was at the studio. There were reports that during the first 45 days of rehearsals, the singer only turned up twice. Show director Kenny Ortega has recruited lookalikes, allegedly “to prevent Michael from getting strained”. Which leads to the biggest question of all: in a month when Britney Spears performed eight shows at the O2 without, apparently, actually singing a note, what constitutes a live gig?


Hum..is Kenny saying he used Mj doubles at rehearsal???
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