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MikesHoney New Member


Aantal berichten: 6 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-21
 | Subject: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:04 pm | |
| http://cyberdiet.terra.com.br/cyberdiet/colunas/050620_bel_tend_inverno.htm A model for Brazillian Hair products as you see the same exact picture above....OR!! Model Sarah Shahi!!  |
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marsheliamorgan Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 612 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-04
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:11 pm | |
| well, i guess this makes it pretty clear huh?i cant stand these fakers,do they NOT care how much they are hurting people and making us sick? |
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mjssoulmate Diamond Member


Aantal berichten: 1051 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:12 pm | |
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YveLoVesMJ Gold Member


Aantal berichten: 386 Registratiedatum: 2009-08-11 Woonplaats: Magicland, un tărâm dintr-o ţară îndepărtată
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:24 pm | |
| So this Sarah is the one fooling us or someone else is using her photo to fool us? This is disgusting! |
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WanaBstartnSthn Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 645 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-04 Leeftijd: 23
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:30 pm | |
| Im so mad but I knew she wasn't real! Thank you MikesHoney for posting this. Now we can put "Cassandra Gretchen Sims" to rest. How did u find this??? |
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WanaBstartnSthn Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 645 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-04 Leeftijd: 23
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:32 pm | |
| | YveLoVesMJ wrote: | | So this Sarah is the one fooling us or someone else is using her photo to fool us? This is disgusting! |
Yves, I think someone was just using her picture. I dont think she even has time to do something so ridiculous and stupid. |
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MikesHoney New Member


Aantal berichten: 6 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-21
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:32 pm | |
| It's been mentioned on other forums. |
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MikesHoney New Member


Aantal berichten: 6 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-21
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:35 pm | |
| | luvmjalways wrote: | | YveLoVesMJ wrote: | | So this Sarah is the one fooling us or someone else is using her photo to fool us? This is disgusting! |
Yves, I think someone was just using her picture. I dont think she even has time to do something so ridiculous and stupid. |
I agree, it's not the model who is posting but someone just using her picture. |
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YveLoVesMJ Gold Member


Aantal berichten: 386 Registratiedatum: 2009-08-11 Woonplaats: Magicland, un tărâm dintr-o ţară îndepărtată
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:39 pm | |
| | luvmjalways wrote: | | YveLoVesMJ wrote: | | So this Sarah is the one fooling us or someone else is using her photo to fool us? This is disgusting! |
Yves, I think someone was just using her picture. I dont think she even has time to do something so ridiculous and stupid. |
Yup why would she ruin her career? Makes no sense. |
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EarthAngel90 Diamond Member


Aantal berichten: 2271 Registratiedatum: 2009-07-29 Leeftijd: 22 Woonplaats: Fort Worth , TX - USA
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:46 pm | |
| OOOOhhhh .... *No Comment * - very pissed & angry about that ... |
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WanaBstartnSthn Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 645 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-04 Leeftijd: 23
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:53 pm | |
| Some ppl have no life. Well, its just like I said for all we know Derek clontz could be "cassandra gretchen sims" I feel sorry for all the other MJ fans that will continue to ask this FRAUD questions. I tried to post a warning to them but my computer started acting up. and if you think about it, the comment will probably be deleted before anyone sees it because I posted the link to show Sarah Shahi on another website. |
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annieisnotokey Diamond Member


Aantal berichten: 1751 Registratiedatum: 2009-07-28 Leeftijd: 36 Woonplaats: WPP
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:59 pm | |
| IMHO, Cassandra Gretchen-Sims doesn't even exist. It's just this guy Derek Kloontz pretending to be somebody else. To make it more believable, he took a random picture from the internet of somebody who is not very famous to make it pass as "Cassandra".
What has Annie been telling you all along? This woman is a fake! |
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Harleyblonde Diamond Member


Aantal berichten: 1215 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-06 Woonplaats: UK
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:36 pm | |
| I think the best we can do is ignore everything to do with Cassandra whoever it may be. A weird sicko!!! Disgusting to play on feelings of staunch fans like this. Dont give him/her any attention at all, they will soon get tired with no attention at all. |
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itsmagic Bronze Member


Aantal berichten: 32 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-09 Leeftijd: 33 Woonplaats: probably in the last place you checked
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:43 pm | |
| Okay, I'm not really clear...did people really assume that was a picture of Sims, to begin with? Or that she/he gave her real name (although the writer does speak more in the style of a female)? I just don't get what all the fuss is about. Maybe the messages are from Michael, maybe they aren't. The idea of MJ using Derek Clontz to get a message out is in no way more ridiculous or implausible as him posting secret coded messages to these forums/chat. Or having a secret Twitter account. Or a....whatever that place is where Leachim posts, lol. I can see Michael using Derek Clontz to talk to fans. It would fall right in line with his sense of humor and irony. After all, can you IMAGINE, later on, Michael wryly commenting "Well, I did tell people I was alive; I did an interview with the media. Why did CNN think the fake pictures/information were real, and not the interview I gave?" Yeah, I can absolutely see Michael telling the truth to a crazy rag, and ignoring the "real" media. Do you really think he sees any difference? Do YOU really think there's a difference? (well, Mr. Clontz's stories are more interesting, at least. And often the writing is better) Also, as I pointed out before: for all the "hidden clues" searched for, on these forums, the fact that Michael was in MIB II, and in the MIB storyline, the "real" truth is only reported in "hot sheets" like the Weekly World News, would suggest Michael would, indeed, find the situation poetically funny. But back to this Sims woman. Again....who thought that was a picture of a 52-year old woman? Or that she gave her real name? Her real age? Her real GENDER, even? Would YOU do that, if you were Michael's messenger? Just post your real information on the web, AFTER saying you were serving as the person he trusted with the truth? See, myself, I would go find a fake picture, make up some fake details, and work behind a long string of dummy emails and proxy servers. Not only to avoid stalker fans tracking me down, but to avoid Derek Clontz following my trail. Finding out that this person is not actually the one pictured in that ridiculous picture means absolutely nothing. The fact that the age and photo did not match was probably a hint - most likely just letting readers know "Obviously, we are not telling you who this source really is." There isn't really much way of proving this "MJ answers your questions" thing true or false, short of serious (and illegal) hacking. Which would be a sh*tty thing to do, if there's even the slightest chance Michael IS behind this. To be honest, most of the direct quotes this writer has posted, supposedly from Michael, do sound very much like him. And none of the claims she has posted have been all that wild (that I've seen, anyway), aside from perhaps the free world tour...which also sounds very much like a Michael Dream, even if it isn't that sensible. Especially because it isn't that sensible. But there's been no "I am MJ's secret wife," "I am MJ's OMGBFF," " or even "I do everything for him, planned all this, he trusts me above God, bwahahahahaaa!" This person has been pretty humble, given her story, which would suggest that a.) she/he is telling the truth, or b.) she/he is highly intelligent, skilled at the psychology of writing, and devoting a crazy amount of time to fooling what amounts to really not a lot of people. You can grab more views by posting pictures of your tits, online, so this is a rather silly way of getting attention. A person smart enough to answer as subtly as she/he has, should be able to thing up a more believable scam. It would not be hard to do; several come to mind, as I type this. Look, I don't know if this story is BS or not. But for goodness sakes...this picture thing should not have surprised anyone. This is not debunking; it's distraction. Edit: Oh, and annieisnotokey - God bless you, for finding a picture of the elusive Agent M.  |
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annieisnotokey Diamond Member


Aantal berichten: 1751 Registratiedatum: 2009-07-28 Leeftijd: 36 Woonplaats: WPP
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itsmagic Bronze Member


Aantal berichten: 32 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-09 Leeftijd: 33 Woonplaats: probably in the last place you checked
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:10 pm | |
| Annieisnotokey: Seriously, I nearly sharted myself, the first time I saw your sig. Semi-relatedly, when I mentioned the Derek Clontz thing, to my husband, as soon as I said "You know...he worked with The Weekly World News," my husband immediately yelled "AGENT M IS USING THE HOTSHEETS!" He's on the fence, about the hoax. But weirdly enough, the Derek Clontz bit was more convincing for him, than most of what he's seen.  |
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 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:15 pm | |
| itsmagic You put up a reasonable answer and you know what? You maybe right. Jury is still out on Cassandra...If MJ was going to do anything to show hes alive, then a site like that would be more his style. And why hasnt MJs family made a public comment about this? Im sure they know about Cassandra..gees its all over this and many other forums which Im sure they read (  ) After all shes making a VERY BOLD statement. Time will tell..but i wouldnt be dismissing it just yet. And The Plot Thickens!!  |
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hungry Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 635 Registratiedatum: 2009-08-30
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:19 pm | |
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 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:22 pm | |
| Cassandra just answered, that she needed to protect her identity, and that is why she posted a picture of this model, instedt of one of herself. I guess that makes sence. BUT............ If cassandra could be in danger for posting a picture of herself, what about this model then? Cant se be in danger now?? |
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MikesHoney New Member


Aantal berichten: 6 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-21
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:24 pm | |
| Then why post any picture at all?? I mean....really? |
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WanaBstartnSthn Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 645 Registratiedatum: 2009-09-04 Leeftijd: 23
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:06 pm | |
| SO do you guys believe in her or not? After I saw the pic of the model, I left a comment asking if Michael would bring his tour to Beira, East Africa. I just looked at a map and picked the tiniest most unheard of little country I can think of because it seemed like everytime someone as Cassandra "Is Michael going on tour in my country?" she always said yes. So, I'm like ok Cassandra let's see if Michael's gonna come here! Her response: "I don't know. I will ask Michael and get back to you"....I still think she's a fraud! |
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ilprincipe Platinum Member


Aantal berichten: 936 Registratiedatum: 2009-08-04 Leeftijd: 31 Woonplaats: Germany
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:50 am | |
| Please, don't pay attention to this BS.....
it's more than obvious that -whoever runs this site- is lying....
If you ask special questions she can't answer them properly.... Only bla bla bla.... She has to be protected...MJ has to be protected...
of course...and if so? Why running such a site? Why offer MJ fans to answer questions... it's a waste of time....
I'm usually against censorship..but in this case I would prefer this site to be a "Cassandra-freed-zone"
it's an absolut useless distraction from the bare essentials |
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CharlieBarley Silver Member


Aantal berichten: 139 Registratiedatum: 2009-08-05 Leeftijd: 30 Woonplaats: UK
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:37 am | |
| I am sure the model who is supposed to be Cassandra would not be very happy if she saw her image being used in this way. If she does not know her image is being used in this way, I am sure she could get the Derek Clontz website into serious trouble for doing this. |
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CharlieBarley Silver Member


Aantal berichten: 139 Registratiedatum: 2009-08-05 Leeftijd: 30 Woonplaats: UK
 | Subject: Re: Cassandra Gretchen Sims Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:37 am | |
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