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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:40 pm

Before I begin I need to know WHO exactly created this forum?
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Rach on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:40 pm

It was Souza.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by hungry on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:42 pm

^ I don't see her on anymore, did she quit this forun?
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Rach on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:43 pm

hungry wrote:^ I don't see her on anymore, did she quit this forun?

She comes on from time to time and occasionally posts but I think she spends most of her time on MJHD now.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by annieisnotokey on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:48 pm

Yes, it was Souza.
A long time ago, there was a bit of a scare at MJHD (before it went down at the beginning of August) that the Forum was going to be hacked / closed / whatever because we were being watched.

So, Souza decided to create a Backup Forum to copy some important information there and for members to have a place to go if MJHD was closed.

The rest is HIStory.

PS: Can't wait for your theory. bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Smelly on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:50 pm

Everyday create your HIStory lol
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by hungry on Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:21 pm

Smelly wrote:Everyday create your HIStory lol
Every path you take you're leaving your legacy Smile
Ok ok back on topic:
Our forum pwns.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:04 pm

Before I continue I want to state that I am not here to upset anybody. I am not an insider nor am I a troll. I'm here like most of you...to seek the truth.

I am not the least bit surprised jokecalmschina has said his Last Goodbye. Mission Accomplished. Have we really cracked all his previous clues yet?

Some strange things have taken place in the last 16-18 hours. The forums are not what they seem on the surface. Earlier a new person posted about the forums not being what they appear to be (ie, members with multiple accounts and/or multiple people posing as one member). I'm not sure what happened to these posts, but whoever this new member is maybe correct. In order to keep a hoax going you need some players. It could be one person playing a few different rolls or multiple people playing one roll. Why? As some get closer to the truth you need to keep them one step back. Here comes a troll or an "unbeliever" to rain on your parade. If someone cracks the code too soon - game over. Be aware of red herrings. I tell people this all the time.

Last night I sent jokecalmschina a private message - asking him when we will expect another clue. I have a sneaky suspicion that his farewell message is a clue. That being said, sometime later on into the wee hours of the morning a new post appeared over on Rae's forum.

If you have an account you may login and view it here: http://michaeljacksonhoax.lefora.com/2009/09/25/shall-i-tell-them/page1/#post15016461
If you do not have an account you may view the screenshot of said post here: http://twitpic.com/j4r3g (make sure you click on View full size)

Upon further review, we (meaning me and others over on Rae's forum) discovered a few things. (those apart of this awakening last night please feel free to post your findings here)

First please visit these two websites: http://www.recastreality.org and http://www.sgmt.at/

Whois lookup on recastreality.org belongs to:

Admin Name:Heidrun Beer
Admin Organization:Arbeitskreis fuer mentales Training
Admin Street1:Hackstock 5
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Unterweissenbach
Admin State/Province:AT
Admin Postal Code:4273
Admin Country:AT
Admin Phone:+43.795669441
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+43.795669447
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:info@sgmt.at
Tech Name:Ingo Enders
Tech Organization:ECS-Webhosting
Tech Street1:Volbehrstrasse 11d
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Nuernberg
Tech State/Province:Bavaria
Tech Postal Code:90491
Tech Country:DE
Tech Phone:+49.91159769540
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+49.9115982998
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:info@ecs-webhosting.de


What do you know...Germania comes into play. Again. Remember, Germany is the Key.

Also, the poster's name is Aletheia - Greek term for "the truth" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletheia

Is this a Rebirth of Truth? http://www.formalontology.it/aletheia.htm
For some reason I keep thinking about MediaHypeAgain's blog http://rebirthoftruth1997.blogspot.com/

Something interesting I found here: http://www.sgmt.at/Comp/Oop.htm

From Object Oriented Programming Principles in the Mind
In the world of object oriented programming, a program object is not a dry and boring collection of code lines, it is very active and nearly alive. It has a name, it occupies a space, it has a certain set of properties (attributes) and a collection of methods (activities). As an example, a program object “flower” would have properties like “color” and “smell”, and methods like “open”, “close”, or “wilt”.

If a programmer wanted to program a flower, he would first describe its properties and methods and then have the flower interact with other program objects. A simple little demo program (no actual programming language is used!) could look like this:

Flower.Color = Yellow

Flower.Smell = None

IF Sun.IsShining THEN

Flower.Open

ELSE

Flower.Close

The flower object looks at a property of the sun object (“IsShining” can be true or false) and then either opens or closes. Haven’t we seen that many times in real life?

If we had to learn actual programming, we would of course need to study for a few months, but for our understanding of the mind’s programming - and, actually, of the inner workings of evolution - it is sufficient to understand four simple concepts.


For some reason the above reminds me of a few of back's posts over on mjjcommunity.com, JCC and a few others. Perhaps it's the wording (ie, IF Sun.IsShining THEN)

Remember the viral marketing campaign behind the movie the Dark Knight? Scores of websites were set up. Scavenger hunts. Clues. Online and off. It was crazy. If you did not know about this please read here: http://www.moviemarketingmadness.com/blog/2008/07/17/movie-marketing-madness-the-dark-knight/

Not sure what viral marketing is? Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing

This all may fit into the movie theory...or we're someone's social experiment.

If something doesn't make sense or you need further explaination don't hesitate to ask.

I'd like to end this post with a quote by one of my favorite writers, William S. Burroughs:
"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on"
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Rach on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:11 pm

Thanks for posting Illusionist. I think I follow what you're saying but I will re-read a couple of times to make sure!

You know I am on a MAJOR paranoira at the moment. I can't shake off the feeling that the forum is being watched and we are being lead down the garden path to throw off us.

I have absoutley no idea what happened to that post this morning. Myself and the other MODs weren't even online to delete it. I have had some very weird things happen to me over the past few days. I don't mean to scare anyone but I think people are trying to tell us to back off.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by hungry on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:17 pm

illusionist wrote:I am not the least bit surprised jokecalmschina has said his Last Goodbye. Mission Accomplished. Have we really cracked all his previous clues yet?
I was only mildly surprised that he has left - I mean, if he were to stay with us until the very end, what would he do?
illusionist wrote: I have a sneaky suspicion that his farewell message is a clue.
I did too, but what can we get from "No
more clues.This is it. The last goodbye. L.O.V.E."? Maybe... maybe, the
This Is It movie will leave us with enough information/clues to lead us
to the next part, and the part after that, until the truth comes out.
I don't know :/
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:21 pm

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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by annieisnotokey on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:24 pm

Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by dirty_diana on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:27 pm

Okay, guys. I dunno if I missed out on a lot over the week...

But, JCC LEFT?? WHAT WERE HIS LAST CLUES??

(Sorry, I'm spazzing just a tad. Did anything BIG happen over the week?)
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Savannah on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:35 pm

Thank you for sharing this illusionast. Even though I don't quite understand it all yet, I am going to read your post again and again until I do.

Annie ~ when you asked if "what happened is real", did you mean MJs death???
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:37 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

It could go either way.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:38 pm

Savannah wrote:Thank you for sharing this illusionast. Even though I don't quite understand it all yet, I am going to read your post again and again until I do.

Annie ~ when you asked if "what happened is real", did you mean MJs death???

Savannah - if you have any questions feel free to ask. And yes, I think that's what Annie meant.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Human_nature on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:39 pm

illusionist wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

It could go either way.

I was about to reply the same illusionist... so I guess I understood.

Thanks alot!
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Banessa on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:39 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

This is exactly what I am understanding as well! In regards to the movie theory the forum MJHD is the game board and we became the players? The forum and the clues and all the research done was a marketing plan to give the movie publicity? Please correct me if I'm wrong and I misunderstood the whole thing! scratch
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Savannah on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:41 pm

illusionist wrote:
Savannah wrote:Thank you for sharing this illusionast. Even though I don't quite understand it all yet, I am going to read your post again and again until I do.

Annie ~ when you asked if "what happened is real", did you mean MJs death???

Savannah - if you have any questions feel free to ask. And yes, I think that's what Annie meant.

Thank you so much...you are too kind! I love you

And dirty_diana, this was JCCs last clue on the other thread:

jokecalmschina wrote:
No more clues.This is it. The last goodbye. L.O.V.E.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:42 pm

dirty_diana wrote:Okay, guys. I dunno if I missed out on a lot over the week...

But, JCC LEFT?? WHAT WERE HIS LAST CLUES??

(Sorry, I'm spazzing just a tad. Did anything BIG happen over the week?)

In the official JCC thread he posted that he no more clues. this is it. The last goodbye. L.O.V.E.

I think his farewell message is a clue.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by annieisnotokey on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:43 pm

Savannah wrote:
Annie ~ when you asked if "what happened is real", did you mean MJs death???

Yes, that's what I meant.
And NO, it is not what I believe but I wanted to make sure I understood the theory correctly.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by Savannah on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:46 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
Savannah wrote:
Annie ~ when you asked if "what happened is real", did you mean MJs death???

Yes, that's what I meant.
And NO, it is not what I believe but I wanted to make sure I understood the theory correctly.

Thanks Annie Wink It's been a very long day, so my mind is going in s-l-o-w motion right now!!!
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by annieisnotokey on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:48 pm

illusionist wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

It could go either way.

Thanks for the reply.

So (and don't take this the wrong way because you've done an amazing job explaining it all for us)...

JCC clues don't hold real value because we don't know more or less than before if MJ is alive or not.

Additionally, the members of the hoax boards are:
* Extremely clever because we cracked the clues for the movie
OR
* Extremely gullible because we are blind to the fact that MJ is indeed deceased

This doesn't make me feel better about myself. lol!
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:56 pm

Banessa wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:Okey, let me see if got it right...

Everything that happened + the clues are part of the movie theory, and eventually everything will be revealed by it

OR

What happened is real BUT the clues are part of someone's sick social experiment?

Is that what you mean?

This is exactly what I am understanding as well! In regards to the movie theory the forum MJHD is the game board and we became the players? The forum and the clues and all the research done was a marketing plan to give the movie publicity? Please correct me if I'm wrong and I misunderstood the whole thing! scratch

It could be that Banessa. The forums are just a piece to the puzzle.
Or someone is playing a cruel mind game.
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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:04 pm

Look at JCC's clues as guidance to the truth...regardless of the outcome.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by marsheliamorgan on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:15 pm

so,we still dont know for sure anything right?its still one of the two?either we are gulliable or it was all clues/publicity for the movie?
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by MauraMissesMichael on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:26 pm

I think.... I think the key in all of this is thinking for yourself.. If you dont think for yourself in all of this.. You are going to fall.. Fall very very hard an its going to hurt..and thats all im saying..
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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:27 pm

marsheliamorgan wrote:so,we still dont know for sure anything right?its still one of the two?either we are gulliable or it was all clues/publicity for the movie?

I honestly beLIEve we are being watched. Either we, we are part of some "campaign".
We just need to find out who is behind the curtain pulling the strings.
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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:28 pm

MauraMissesMichael wrote:I think.... I think the key in all of this is thinking for yourself.. If you dont think for yourself in all of this.. You are going to fall.. Fall very very hard an its going to hurt..and thats all im saying..

And you my dear, are correct!
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Post by annieisnotokey on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:29 pm

MauraMissesMichael wrote:I think.... I think the key in all of this is thinking for yourself.. If you dont think for yourself in all of this.. You are going to fall.. Fall very very hard an its going to hurt..and thats all im saying..

I agree.

No vision of reality, including the ones that we can come up with here, is entirely true. In the long run, finding the truth – your own truth – is your own individual task. Don’t let anybody do the thinking for you.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by jade jackson on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:49 pm

So what now? Where does this go from here?
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:56 pm

MauraMissesMichael wrote:I think.... I think the key in all of this is thinking for yourself.. If you dont think for yourself in all of this.. You are going to fall.. Fall very very hard an its going to hurt..and thats all im saying..

I agree...and ask yourself...Why are you here? Who brought you here? Smile

I do believe that there are members with multiple accounts and some may be trolls. And I'm starting to believe this Cassandra character is a member of one of these forums, and has been playing all along...just my opinion...
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by hungry on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:56 pm

jade jackson wrote:So what now? Where does this go from here?
The movie is next, I guess. And then the memorial movie (typo).
And after that... we're on our own.


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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by lovelidae on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:01 pm

@hungry

What memorial? I haven't been on for awhile or posted in awhile and I seemed to be way out of touch.

What's happening? Did you guys find out this is a sick game or something?
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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:04 pm

The movie is next.

Then....?

That remains to be seen.
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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:06 pm

lovelidae wrote:@hungry

What memorial? I haven't been on for awhile or posted in awhile and I seemed to be way out of touch.

What's happening? Did you guys find out this is a sick game or something?

Please refer to my long post towards the beginning of this thread. Then draw your own conclusion.
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Post by hungry on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:09 pm

lovelidae wrote:@hungry

What memorial? I haven't been on for awhile or posted in awhile and I seemed to be way out of touch.

What's happening? Did you guys find out this is a sick game or something?
OMG LOL.
I'm sorry, lovelidae, I meant movie but I typed the wrong thing
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by sunnyscrapper on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:11 pm

This is my response to the post on Rae's forum. There are two posts, the second one done after I had done a bit more thinking!

The forums...



I am beginning to wonder if this isn't just some sort of marketing model or analysis of forum behaviour.

The events are shown in black, ie. the first black triangle is the death of MJ, this leads to the set up of a forum into the hoax....the original MJHD forum shown as the blue square. This is set up as part of the project if you like (remember lots of people questioned the date that MJHD had been set up was before MJ's death).
Time passes and information comes in, things like the ambulance photo etc. Information is shown as an oval. Arrows go in and out to show how the raw information is discussed and analysed.
Another event takes place such as the Memorial. A new event with new information leads to another forum being set up (the red circle), perhaps with slightly different agendas or lines of enquiry.
Time passes and more information comes in. Information is collected, analysed and opinions formed. Another event takes place and another type of forum is created (green pentagon). Maybe the funeral.
Eventually we have lots of different opinions/forums jangling around and information is bombarding them from different sources and going from one forum to another (the group shown half way through)
Time passes again and the last black triangle represents the final event (maybe the film) which will provide information to illuminate everything (the light the truth in the yellow oval).
People really start to question things. The forums split into two groups, those believing one thing (the red dots and pentagons) maybe preferring to believe that Michael is indeed gone and those who continue to follow the hoax (blue squares). People choose (select) their belief.
This might just be a model of how the situation is expected to unfold (forum growth model if you like) and maybe the experiment is to see whether that does indeed happen. We could be being watched to see how we react.

Viral marketing could form part of it as well, using the forums to spread the message about the movie, the new single, the new double album from the movie, the DVDs of the movie, the books, all the various merchandise now available.
I have seen all these things posted on this and other forums and have posted stuff myself (eg Michael jackson coins, and clothing). The message is spread quickly and effectively to people who fall into the target group (ie those who are fans of MJ) and is a relatively cheap form of marketing.

Also to spread the word of things which are not obviously saleable such as information about Michael. Many have questioned why we have been hearing so much about him since his death, much of it very positive such as home videos, speeches, poetry he has written, unreleased songs that have found their way onto Youtube, stories from people who knew him...the list goes on.

The chat room forms part of the model. All these things get discussed there too, raising awareness of the products and the profile of the man himself. I am not saying that we are being watched every step of the way but chat rooms can be a powerful tool to engage with your target market in a direct way. I even went on today and gushed about a book I had bought today in K-mart and how lovely it was!

Interesting stuff, I believe we may be subjects in some kind of social or commercial experiment.


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Just a further thought to add. Way back in mid July when the hoax theory was growing, I suggested that this might be the ultimate re-branding excercise. If the hoax does indeed come out, instead of people on the street saying:
'Michael Jackson, oh that bloke who molests children', they will now say

'Michael Jackson, oh that bloke who hoaxed his death'

Mission accomplished. The new event overrides the earlier one. He will have done something much bigger which will catch in people's minds.


This also fits with the theory on that website recastreality about mental training drills.(previous page on thread)

Realize that your mind is a recorder - we hear things everyday from the media and other people which we remember (eg my mum who will roll out the phrase 'he is just a pedophile' when asked about Michael Jackson and there are lots like her). The newspapers tell her something and she believes it.

Realize that your mind has been recording reality all your life and is replaying it daily, often good and bad alike - we repeat and pass on good and bad things that we hear or learn, without necessarily questioning it. Think of our discussions in the chat room. Generally though people tend to focus on the bad about someone or something (think about the phrase 'no news is good news').

Stop replaying the bad things and replay more of the good things - obvious message here

If you project new factors into the reality that others will record from you (and replay for many years), make sure that they consider the greatest good! - we have been fed lots of positive stories over the last couple of months about Michael since his 'death'.Think of the movie clips, the stories etc. Also if Michael has indeed been involved in a sting to bring down the 'feel-good' doctors he will be thought of well for that.

We are being reprogrammed. That diagram shows the process and the role of the forums. Looking back at the picture again:

We get information from an outside source, represented by the record and replay on the diagram. Here people are hearing things and just repeating them. This is what we do because we have been programmed by society to just pass on the information (think of the office grapevine).

Eventually through receiving more and more information, we get to a point where we are hopefully informed. We don't just thave half of the story that the media have given us over the years, we should have the fully picture.

At this point we are able to question and then select and replay/communicate information properly, good news as well as bad.

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I didn't even have to speak a word and now..."You're just another part of me". Good work guys! Glad to see we have some real thinkers here!!! You're no longer viewing the world from within a fishbowl, you're on the outside looking in now. Special thanks to Sunny and Housewife for delivering the full message See you soon!


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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:18 pm

Thank you Sunny! I really wanted you to repost your comments as they are vital. Very Happy
We're both on the same wave length - which we have already discussed.
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Post by lovelidae on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:22 pm

Okay, I think I see what you're getting at. It's the whole two sided coin thing.

Are you saying that we are in a social experiment, but the only problem now is figuring out who is experimenting with us?

Is this a cruel analysis for viral marketing or a way for the masses to be reprogrammed for positive thinking?

Hmmm....
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:43 pm

illusionist wrote:
dirty_diana wrote:Okay, guys. I dunno if I missed out on a lot over the week...

But, JCC LEFT?? WHAT WERE HIS LAST CLUES??

(Sorry, I'm spazzing just a tad. Did anything BIG happen over the week?)

In the official JCC thread he posted that he no more clues. this is it. The last goodbye. L.O.V.E.

I think his farewell message is a clue.


Maybe the number 33 appear in this farewell message . No more clues (3 words) The last goodbye (3words)
did'nt the cassandra things claims that there is 33 clues in this is it ? And the L.O.V.E thing is what Michael said at the end of the this is it trailer . Any thoughts ?
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Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:06 pm

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:


Maybe the number 33 appear in this farewell message . No more clues (3 words) The last goodbye (3words)
did'nt the cassandra things claims that there is 33 clues in this is it ? And the L.O.V.E thing is what Michael said at the end of the this is it trailer . Any thoughts ?


VERY interesting... sunny

BUT... Joke's said "No more clues. (3) This is it. (3) The last Goodbye (3) L.O.V.E. (1 or 4)" = doesn't add up to 33.

Don't listen to Cassandra. Fake. Red Herring.
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 pm

illusionist wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:


Maybe the number 33 appear in this farewell message . No more clues (3 words) The last goodbye (3words)
did'nt the cassandra things claims that there is 33 clues in this is it ? And the L.O.V.E thing is what Michael said at the end of the this is it trailer . Any thoughts ?


VERY interesting...

BUT... Joke's said "No more clues. (3) This is it. (3) The last Goodbye (3) L.O.V.E. (1 or 4)" = doesn't add up to 33.

Don't listen to Cassandra. Fake. Red Herring.

Cassandra fits very well in all this guerilla, viral marketing theory, Illusionist...but not as a giver of clues, but as someone who wants to keep us entertained...I mean, the movie is still a month apart...hmm. This theory is driving me insane...at least the viral marketing part.
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:48 pm

illusionist wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:


Maybe the number 33 appear in this farewell message . No more clues (3 words) The last goodbye (3words)
did'nt the cassandra things claims that there is 33 clues in this is it ? And the L.O.V.E thing is what Michael said at the end of the this is it trailer . Any thoughts ?


VERY interesting...

BUT... Joke's said "No more clues. (3) This is it. (3) The last Goodbye (3) L.O.V.E. (1 or 4)" = doesn't add up to 33.

Don't listen to Cassandra. Fake. Red Herring.

Umm no you get me wrong . I mean " No more clues (3) This is it ( not counted because this is somethinq regarding to This Is It ) The last Goodbye (3) 3 and 3 = 33 think in a unlogistic way . As for the L.O.V.E is something that appear in Michael speech " This is all about love , L.O.V.E " and Kenny tweet . Which is connect to This Is It . Sorry if you don't know what I mean because my english is not so professional .

~Smile !
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by illusionist on Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:07 pm

Cassandra fits very well in all this guerilla, viral marketing theory, Illusionist...but not as a giver of clues, but as someone who wants to keep us entertained...I mean, the movie is still a month apart...hmm. This theory is driving me insane...at least the viral marketing part.

I don't think Cassandra nor Derek "what's his name" are apart of this equation. Derek is probably reading the forums, getting ideas. He does this for a living (writing crazy stuff). I seriously don't think he's apart of the hoax, viral marketing or anything like that.
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Re: Fitting The Pieces Together

Post by MacyBlue on Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:24 am

Over on TMZ there has been a person who posts as the puppet master . Friday night ( a few hours ago ) he started to say goodbye. He mentioned that he had to leave .

I do not know if this has any bearing on this, but it could fit in with the viral marketing theory .
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Post by Smelly on Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:33 am

Did this person posts clues or anything?
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Post by MacyBlue on Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:49 am

yes , they post clues almost every day . sometimes several times a day . they often wait around to see if we get the clues . this has been going on for 3 months .
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Post by Smelly on Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:54 am

Wow everyday. Where abouts on the website are they, I'm curious to see what they were.


EDIT: Can't spell


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Post by MacyBlue on Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:00 am

GO to the article called :
Katherine Jackson can challenge administrators

an example would be post #2216 and #2217
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