Re: Official Dave Dave thread

[SeeingClues]

Here is a side by side that you may find of interest. "Dave Dave" next to Michael from the Geraldo 2005 interview...

seeingclues.blogspot.com

[Human_nature]

Here is a side by side that you may find of interest. "Dave Dave" next to Michael from the Geraldo 2005 interview...

seeingclues.blogspot.com

I think it's amazing !

Thanks

[IWSICS]

OMG, SO CONFUSED!

My brain:



Can't decide which way is up! Or left/right! LMAO

[MJFOREVER]

Here is a side by side that you may find of interest. "Dave Dave" next to Michael from the Geraldo 2005 interview...

seeingclues.blogspot.com

I think it's amazing !

Thanks

They look very much alike but i think mj jaw is bigger then when you look at dave but i dont know ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so confused:P

[tyffanny]

OMG!!! Im sure that dave dave is MICHAEL!!!

[Janet77]

[quote = "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"] Yes, Dave Dave is a real person. [/ quote] Hi, nice picture, you. Suit you well? It was a shock to me, when you declared dead, I do not believe and I still could not understand how it is possible that a man with such a great performance and physical fitness, which performs tests on the following day. I thought you'd never do anything that would jeopardize the children and of yourself, and when I read what should lead to your death so I do not believe and I have also remember what you told fans that we never believe what he wrote boulevard, and that people should be convinced about what is. I like your style of music, dancing and how beautifully. Very creative! Would like to know What was your llama? And you still have Bubles monkey and an elephant Gipsy? And you know we have something in common? number 7, I was born on that day and it's my lucky . This is it, we should find the 33 clues CASSANDRA says it would give us fans should help understand what happened.Number connected me again, because it was hidden for my date and I'm very interested .suits their style, but I suppose they made to match the song and storyline, and that Mr. Audigier chose natural materials such as costumes and accessories and the most important details because they highlight the entire resulting efekt. Very much looking forward, I have tickets to. I want to thank you for the beautiful song, I can not imagine that she would sing one another, you are very impressive voice, I like it. Please you send me a picture of a real? If someone responds much. I think you it was you personally, although for me it would be a great honor to write only the king of pop, but especially human king. Me you particularly wonderful human being with heart in the right place and I can not understand how a man can be lonely, but maybe it will be that others have not seen you in the beautiful inner beauty, with which you were narodil.Janet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMOzP0CfJs
I apologize for English, I teach her, so I do not know if everything is translated.

[Janet77]

https://2img.net/h/oi38.tinypic.com/2j3jjgn.jpg


Tou nice photo, which you properly, I thought that.


Although Michael was a perfectionist in everything, but it seems to me that would be DAVA DAVE.Já'd rather say he is going dressed as a woman, he needs somewhere jít.Wonder what was going on this and this picture, why forward Michael why we read the sign behind him, why he shows his ear? it to 100% on, why have the number of hours of 28? This is the date of making pictures or a movie trailer THIS IS IT? But that would then mean that the man holding the magazine has to be Michael, because how would he know that shooting film, he was dead? Photos 7.5.2009.ale but to date I will never. Answer, what do you think? http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_10/004.jpg http: / / mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_10/005.jpg

[futurelaker88]

a little photoshop magic..what do you think? lol pretty freaky.

[miss j]

i watched dave dave on LKL too and i never heard of him but he seemed so like michael, the voice, the expressions, the way he spoke everything! it's just i think it was too scary to look at.

[queenpanther55]

DISTANCE OF THE EYES

[ILuvUMoreMJ]

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

[Guest]

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I agree

[MJLive2010]

Hmmm......... I Know Dave Dave looks very strange and its very supicus that he sits next to Elizabeth Tylor . But what about this picture from his my space his eyes are dark here :

https://i.servimg.com/u/f83/14/43/15/67/l_db9112.jpg

[annieisnotokey]

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I agree

So do I.

[dunno_it]

me three

[yitsy]

Me four.

[JacksonFanDotCom]

Karen Faye Kissinger - Good morning everyone.
I have to close the door to any more newbies. I want to welcome our new friends.
I will share my opinions and I welcome your opinions. Just no "alive hoax" people please.
No room for total fabrications.



I found this thread and out of all the information I have seen on the internet, this
was the most convincing evidence I have seen. Other fans think I disrespectful and crazy,
people I talk to think I'm crazy, but I know you most of the people here know it is true.

When I tried to Tell Karen Faye of my thread, and sent a message she said he was dead.
Then I sent an email back saying, so I'm completely off base with this, there was no reply.

Then I posted on her Facebook page to some fans who said they were said they were sad
and got a lot of feedback, like why would he do that to his fans and family. etc. Called me LOCO

Then she posted on her facebook page later that that she spent 8 hours with his body.
Never said dead body. an that there was no room for "alive hoax" people
Then that comment was deleted and she then changed her status to what I started with.

I just want everyone to be happy knowing MJ is alive. Why would she say that if she was
so close to him. If anyone knows, she knows for sure. BTW she is his Make Up artists.

I don't want to disrespect her. I just want to know the truth? Why would she lie?

Beucase if he really is dead, that sucks, and I will just deal with it.

But after seeing the stuff here, the voice, the pics, the eyes, etc, how can you say its not him?

I even put a thread on my MJFDC page. No replies. strange, people just don't believe it.
http://community.michaeljacksonfan.com/showthread.php?t=2693

How could they not know it is MJ after watching Dave Dave?
I knew 5 seconds after dave dave started talking.

any insight why Karen is denying all this?

And what is next? Is he going to stay dead? Is he going to come back?

What is really going on?

MJFDC

P.S. can someone join my site and let me know if it is working?

[Human_nature]

So Karen told she spent 8 hrs with his body....
Make-up artist .....

Well...for me, it can be for a disguise.

I really like Karen and if she don't tell the truth, she's just like the other people in this hoax no?
I mean, she just can't tell "oh yes, he's alive, don't worry"

[JacksonFanDotCom]

True. I did think that as well. Uggg!

So whats next? Will he come back, or is THIS IT?

[GirlSaturday]

Okay I will take the bait and reply because I believe 200% that the Dave Dave featured on Larry King is Michael Jackson.

I have one request. Please keep as much of an open mind with my reply as I did with your question.

This hoax is an exercise of the mind. We are being played like a fiddle. If we learn but one lesson in the end it will be that the obvious can be made less obvious and the impossible can be made possible.

Prior to the Larry King video clip...I had never seen Dave Dave. I had never heard his voice. I slightly recalled his story. No bias. No pre-conceived notion of what to expect. I have...seen MJ, heard him speak, watched his mannerisms, studied his method of getting a point across and witnessed his body language. When watching Michael, I have learned what to expect from him. It is MJ... or not... after watching HIM.

I have now watched the video once. I have listened to the video a dozen or so times. Big difference once I was able to block out the image of Dave Dave and listen carefully to the words and delivery of the words.
Michael has a certain way of talking. Ignore the voice. I am referring to his choice of words. When Mj gets on a subject he expresses himself a certain way. Let's look at the subject of children. Michael talks about children in a very soft, flowery, poetic, overly emotional and borderline sappy way. He uses words that describe feelings and his loving heart-felt emotions.

Throughout the Dave Dave interview Michael/Dave Dave was describing how he felt. He used his words to tell what MJ must have meant to Dave Dave because he honestly felt that he left that level of an impact on Dave Dave by befriending him.

Let's take a look at some statements that Michael/Dave Dave shared during the interview:


When asked why he went from Dave Rothenberg to Dave Dave he stated that he wanted to liberate himself from his father's name and his father's legacy..he wanted to free himself.

Joseph Jackson has a legacy. Michael Jackson has spent a lifetime wanting to free himself from that evil legacy of abuse and harsh treatment.

Michael/Dave Dave said that MJ took him into his life and that it was rare for him to do.

Since when has it been rare for MJ to take injured or sick children into his life???? That subconscious statement was meant to throw viewers off and not repeat past interview response mistakes where he dug a hole by mentioning his constant habit of welcoming childen into his life. We all know what happens when MJ mentions spending time with kids...another crazy allegation pops up.

Michael/Dave Dave mentioned their first meeting and when they embraced. It was described as an embrace that was so meaningful that it "Never let me go".

That is straight out of the dictionary of Michael Jackson talk...poetic and filled with euphemism.

Michael/Dave Dave stated that he was an admirer...not really a fan but he "loved" Mj's music.

How can you love someones music and not be a fan of the music-maker? Michael wanted to create a distance from himself and his current stunt of impersonating Dave Dave with this statement. He slipped up by mentioning that Dave Dave was a fan of HIS music.

Michael/Dave Dave marveled at the fact that Paul Mccartney records were around inside of the arcade. Note how he specifically mentioned "The Girl is Mine" .

Ummm that was the duet between MJ and Paul. Why mention that song if soooo many Paul records were around as he stated.

Michael/Dave Dave said that Pole Position was his favorite video game within the arcade at Neverland.

The game was introduced in 1982 and is considered a pioneer and a classic. It is most noteworthy for revolutionizing 3D graphics within the video game industry. MJ is a huge fan of cutting edge technology and of 3D graphics.

When Michael/Dave discussed the embrace again he referred to it as one that lasted throughout their entire friendship.

Again...more Mj poetic and flowery talk.

Michael/Dave Dave was asked to tell viewers about Michael. He used terms such as human being...stigmatized by the media..he never hurt a soul.

Michael was redeeming himself and repeating his own words of how he is mislabled by others.

Michael/Dave Dave ended the interview by describing Michael as the father that he never had.

Michael Jackson saw himself as the father to all of the world's wounded children. It is not unlikely that he thought that he had now taken on the role as the good father to Dave Dave and to be able to replace the evil father who harmed him.

I live by an open rule . I try to keep an open mind about most things in life. My viewpoint is not THE viewpoint however is one viewpoint to consider. Dave Dave is a real person who has undoubtedly suffered a horrible crime and injustice that no one should have to face. If Michael Jackson impersonated Dave Dave it was not done with ridice or malice but perhaps to send a message. Hell he may have even consulted with Dave Dave ...shared his plans and possibly received Dave Dave's permission/blessing to proceed.

This hoax is not about feelings or emotions. It is about strategy...winning strategy. I find that I think much more clearly about clues when emotions and feelings are left at the door. Michael Jackson is a master strategist. Few strategies involve emotions but they do involve clear and focused planning.

"Michael would never do this" ..."Michael would not do that" ..."Michael feels this way"...Michael feels that way" Sound familiar? Many people start statements with what they honestly believe about Michael Jackson. The majority of those statements are based more on their feelings about Michael and less on what strategy that Michael has in play within the game.

I invite members to take a few more listens to the interview. Do not look at Dave Dave. Simply listen ...again and again to the interview itself. Some may change their mind. Some may not. I did not take a long time to come to my conclusion. Additional listens simply reinforced my belief that Dave Dave on Larry King was Michael. In my opinion, it simply screamed....Michael Jackson! Hell... he did everything except jump up... grab himself ...and moonwalk during that interview.

This has been fun. I enjoy this forum very much.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

[MjJProduction]

ok... this is a new picture of dave dave.. put on my space yesterday...



he is NOT the dave dave of the larry king show!

DAVE DAVE of the larry king is MICHAEL MICHAEL!!

[ILuvUMoreMJ]

Okay I will take the bait and reply because I believe 200% that the Dave Dave featured on Larry King is Michael Jackson.

I have one request. Please keep as much of an open mind with my reply as I did with your question.

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I wasn't baiting you. I honestly just didn't understand where the heck this idea was coming from because it seems pretty ludicrous to me. Thank you for your explanation though, I really do appreciate it.

[Janet77]

a little photoshop magic..what do you think? lol pretty freaky.

Thanks for . Regards Deva Deva so I started the video, where he was on the show Larry King and I must say that when pronounced the word mother and says exactly the same as MJ, and his voice is also.The same facial expressions, gestures . It is 100% Michael!! Michael told me that the fans know him well enough to know what is schopen.Taj this he succeeded Ted, and why not? Whole years of his destroying the media why he did he could not make fun of them? to come out one day that MJ is still alive and those what he especially hurt so I will kiss. At this fotkuze 7/5/2009 Michael as there is with the magazine and the clock that instead of number 3 to number 28, it means that it is a trailer for THIS IS IT, or is the date photo shoot? which in this case either 28.6.2009 or 28.9 2009.A why we have the next picture with MJ read the sign behind his back, where it says that the door is not. Me there any explanation?

[Janet77]

a little photoshop magic..what do you think? lol pretty freaky.

I do not know if that fits here, and I doubt that Michael Jackson had a chance to read the verses here, which I passed on it, but I thought what if they happen to have this opportunity, it might comfort him my verses.

For Michael Jackson -King of human hearts


Helpless and hopeless, this is how I feel inside
Although I am far away, my mind is just you
I lost what I was happy
You feel a great void, please come back
I need you I know I have distant
But you're very close to me That hurts
Sometimes it is difficult to breathe and where you are, where you're the king of pop?
Uuncover its secrets and I went through the whole world
Because I'd like to give a beautiful flower
Please forget about it on the corrupt world do not
Know how I miss you
I miss everyone Is this all day just dream?
Open your eyes wide open and come out that life
Is worth your voice and the smile that's what
I miss I do not want to cry but be happy
You coming here for the beautiful flower?
I know you like black orchid
If You are my flower
You will not feel like the lost world
I pray and cry, you find a way
Where you are, where you're the king of pop? Near?
Waiting for you, otherwise life would be hard without you
I give you the beautiful flowers and believe that the It will be a more beautiful world.




I love you Janet

[RyanJ]

ok... this is a new picture of dave dave.. put on my space yesterday...



he is NOT the dave dave of the larry king show!

DAVE DAVE of the larry king is MICHAEL MICHAEL!!

Actually, I do think this is Dave Dave of LKL.

[JacksonFanDotCom]

We also notice with the new pics, the adams apple.

Real Daev Daev has a big one, and Michael Michael doesn't

I just want to SCREAM MICHAEL JACKSON IS ALIVE!

People say I'm crazy, let it go and I say BELIEVE IT, that's MJ!

They see this and say, no that's not him, yet, I know it is.

If and when he does come back, I will say see, I told you, I told you, I told you!

Now go buy all his music and appreciate what you have.

You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
And you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
And I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable

What's Next? Any insight to that?

[GirlSaturday]

"I'll take the bait" is a figure of speech.

Okay I will take the bait and reply because I believe 200% that the Dave Dave featured on Larry King is Michael Jackson.

I have one request. Please keep as much of an open mind with my reply as I did with your question.

Can someone please explain to me why on earth you guys think MJ would want to impersonate Dave Dave? He is a real person, there are videos of him with Michael as a little boy. Why would MJ disguise himself like that...for what purpose? I respect your right to believe what you want, but I personally find it insulting that anyone would think Michael would make himself up to look like a burn victim. Dave Dave's story is very tragic...I just cannot believe MJ would make light of that regardless of what he wants the media to think.

I wasn't baiting you. I honestly just didn't understand where the heck this idea was coming from because it seems pretty ludicrous to me. Thank you for your explanation though, I really do appreciate it.

[miss j]

If and when he does come back, I will say see, I told you, I told you, I told you!

so...if that did happen one day, i bet that would be the best "see, i told you" ever.

[yitsy]

I do too....same bottom teeth and bottom lip

[andrea_garay2005]

what about Dave Dave on Leeza show? his face is soo smooth.....

[Red Velvet]

You took the words right out of my hand! We were posting at the same time! I'll just send it again right now

When I was watching Dave Dave on LKL I sat straight up to the edge of the sofa and burst out laughing ... I have no doubt .. none at all .. esepcially that spot on Leeza Gibbons oh my goodness it was so obvious, he even had smooth skin! but what I couldn't figure out is WHY - - - isn't Leeza's show now defunct? When would that have been and why would he have been on there? He didn't even come out and mention "Michael Jackson". Maybe she wanted Dave Dave and maybe he was too shy and MJ did it just to 'get away' with something to secretly demonstrate how easy it is to tell the public just anything and they'll believe it?

[Red Velvet]

on Leeza's show his skin was baby-fresh, MJ smoooooooooth I couldn't believe it was so obvious. His lip was even just barely distorted. And on LKL compared to the real Dave Dave, the lip isn't even distorted in quite the same way! MJ is a hollar!

[andrea_garay2005]

I thought so too

[queenpanther55]

From Leeza show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CkETwJY1U

im not sure though but the member who posted this just joined october of last year. He claims that he posted this because he was a friend of Dave Dave.
Now I tried to figure out when was this posted and the record was : 3 months ago.

(am i right about this???, can anyone help me check it??)

and by the way, Bimbopatrol i think is a camera man. Check out his profile on the Url i gave.

NEXT (prank call - ralphige)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg

im not sure if everyone hear this already, but this is really interesting. i think there is really a connection of Pattern on dave dave voice.

[infinitylady]

I am listening to the prank call now but someone made a point in the comment that you can't use the phone 30+k plus in the air on a plane. So, I believe MJ knew this guy was full of mess, he was just going along with it as if the guy thought he was stupid.

[infinitylady]

Even if this wasn't his voice the guy was just full of crap.

[andrea_garay2005]

I just had the stangest filling when hearing the guy who picked up the phone......like the 911 call? The way he was talking....
I even thought there is only one person talking on this conversation just changing his voice.....maybe Michael?

[andrea_garay2005]

Actually there is a comment on this vid on youtube somebody saying that Mike did some of this voice changing in one of his private home videos (but doesn't say which one)
what about 911 call then?

[infinitylady]

Yeah, he would do voice changes acting as other characters. I remember seeing something like this on youtube when he was much younger and he was with his sister Janet when she was young. He did this also in an interview where his sister Latoya was with him.

[andrea_garay2005]

does it sound like he made the 911 call?

[Human_nature]

Michael can change his voice and nobody will know it's him So, everyhthing is possible.

[RyanJ]

Did you guys also check the comments in the YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw ? Dave Dave says he met MJ on Neverland when he was 7. Dave Dave was born in 1976, so he was 7 in 1983. MJ bought the Neverland Ranch in 1988. That means their first meeting could not have been at Neverland...

[GirlSaturday]

Now that is funny!

"Hey Michael! If you are reading this post. Please brother cover your tracks. MJkit members are pretty smart and notice the little... yet very important... details."

Did you guys also check the comments in the YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw ? Dave Dave says he met MJ on Neverland when he was 7. Dave Dave was born in 1976, so he was 7 in 1983. MJ bought the Neverland Ranch in 1988. That means their first meeting could not have been at Neverland...

[4evermichael71]

@RyanJ-I noticed that too. There's no way it could have been at Neverland.

[stardust]

I can read people like a book whether I know them or not, its just the vibes I get off people, maybe it is my intuition, here is the thing, looking at those photos of Daev Daev on Myspace I instantly noticed something that was not picked up immediately on LKL

His Youth!

Now looking through his pictures on Myspace, even in the natural light Daev Daev looks very young, his eye colour is different, his skin tone, his lips are thicker and the burn seems much more pronounced

On LKL Michael as Dave Dave is a giveaway because he looks much older!!!! I dont see a youthful person when watching him on LKL

This is clearly a disguise, I truly believe that

[MJLive2010]

I Agree This Dave Dave looks FAKE to me and yeahh he sounds like Michael . And I found it very strange that he sat next to Liz Tylor why her . And when you look closley he is the only one wich chair is out of the row . I hope its him

[Guest]

Normally Michael's eyes see right through my soul. But they didn't this time. I don't know why, normally no disguise can fool me, when it comes to michael's eyes.

This is weird, I didn't get it this time. I just didn't

[badloving]

my friend didn't believe it was a hoax at first (shes's a big fan for many years) but then when she saw dave dave at LKL she asked me when was that taken......she said it's his eyes....she's a believer since then....there was definitely smth about dave at LKL...and then that interview with Akon when he said he went out with MJ in disguise and he called him dave so he wouldn't be recognized..now if that's not someting.......

[andrea_garay2005]

I was sure Dave Dave on LKL is MIke the first time I saw it.......the eyes, the way he talked......
I looked at it yesterday and I'm not so sure anymore...I mean the voice.....is not like Michaels If he is though, I don't know how he's done it!
I'm sad..

[badloving]

i think karen spent 8 hours with mj to make his disguise as dave dave .....he went on LKL on the 3rd of sept if i remember correctly.....

I miss you so bad mj......

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