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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by SeeingClues on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:53 pm

how can we find out if there were any family friends that looked like that guy?

btw, who thought to photograph that particular guy?
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by neverlandsfairy on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:55 pm

On the last picture he looks as is checking something on the casket....Hmm
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:55 pm

bec wrote:Here's another pic of this guy, just as they place the coffin, looks like this guy's just getting there. Fashionably late or something?
http://media.komonews.com/images/090707_jackson_large_20.jpg

He is not sitting behind Blanket and he is not wearing a glove in this pic.

this pic is when they left no ? Question

and look closely, the guy removed his black glove... Question
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:55 pm

SeeingClues wrote:how can we find out if there were any family friends that looked like that guy?

btw, who thought to photograph that particular guy?

Yeah exactly, why him? He's no-one special, or is he?! Wink
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:57 pm

Rachel wrote:Ok so MrsBenjamin pointed out that it looks like they are LEAVING with the coffin, but if that's the case why would this guy get up before the family? Michael playing a joke maybe?!

Didn't the family go off to a big private lunch at some fancy hotel/restaurant after the service? Maybe he was making a quick escape.
Did the guests have their party thing before or after the memorial (the pics with Usher and Jennifer Hudson's baby bump etc) because nobody looked unhappy or sad, they all looked like they were having a brilliant time. the only time they looked sad was when they had their 'spots' on stage.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:58 pm

who's between him ? I see 2 blonde woman and a black guy...
who they are ?
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:00 pm

Human_nature wrote:who's between him ? I see 2 blonde woman and a black guy...
who they are ?
Is it me or does one of those blonde women in the pic look like Brooke Shields, the one closest to the front of the pic, next to the black guy in the hat, wearing sunglasses and behind Rev Jesse
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:01 pm

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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by aamj07 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:02 pm

Yeah we need to find out who was sitting next to this guy. It seems pretty obvious that he's disguised, wearing a wig & stuff...whoever was sitting next to him & around him must be in on the hoax if this is really MJ. I agree, one of the women does look like brooke shields
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:03 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:who's between him ? I see 2 blonde woman and a black guy...
who they are ?
Is it me or does one of those blonde women in the pic look like Brooke Shields, the one closest to the front of the pic, next to the black guy in the hat, wearing sunglasses and behind Rev Jesse


no I don't think it's Brooke


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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by emo_pinkt on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:03 pm

It wasnt a glove,...It was a shadow.
If it was mj he probably went to say the ending of will you be there. Far fetched I know right? lol
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:04 pm

Isn't that from the BET Awards? That's what the url link says
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:05 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Isn't that from the BET Awards? That's what the url link says

Oh I don't know but it's too funny! Maybe it is and Michael likes the hat LOL
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:07 pm

Human_nature wrote:
Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:who's between him ? I see 2 blonde woman and a black guy...
who they are ?
Is it me or does one of those blonde women in the pic look like Brooke Shields, the one closest to the front of the pic, next to the black guy in the hat, wearing sunglasses and behind Rev Jesse

no I don't think it's Brooke

I thought it might be her because of her nose and cheekbones in profile but maybe you're right. I figured under the lights of the Staples Centre it would have made her hair look blonder rather than her normal brunette.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:08 pm

Rachel wrote:
Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Isn't that from the BET Awards? That's what the url link says

Oh I don't know but it's too funny! Maybe it is and Michael likes the hat LOL
Rofl that would be a laugh lol. Maybe we should look for the same guy at the BET Awards just to make sure
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by aamj07 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:08 pm

Yeah the glove on the right hand is not actually a glove, it's a shadow...Look at the woman's hands next to him they are also very dark like the guy's right hand.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by bec on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:08 pm

Why's this guy front and center? Here is directly in front of Paris for her speech:

http://www.expressnightout.com/content/photos/20090707-jackson-450.jpg

And I guess they could be leaving with the coffin in the last link. But then why's this guy jumping out of his seat to split so fast? No one else is standing.
Refering to this pic:
http://media.komonews.com/images/090707_jackson_large_20.jpg
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:10 pm

emo_pinkt wrote:It wasnt a glove,...It was a shadow.
If it was mj he probably went to say the ending of will you be there. Far fetched I know right? lol

I don't know, but look like a glove to me :





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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:13 pm

Human_nature wrote:
emo_pinkt wrote:It wasnt a glove,...It was a shadow.
If it was mj he probably went to say the ending of will you be there. Far fetched I know right? lol

I don't know, but look like a glove to me :

Ditto, it's pretty drastic for a shadow esp with the cut-off area just before the wrist. I reckon he had a black glove on then whipped it off before he got up to leave with the coffin. Nobody else is leaving, why is he? Surely he can't have had something more important to go to. What could have been more important than this event that most would have given their eyeteeth to go to?

*EDIT*
Now you've got me doubting it human_nature Razz
I can make out a possible thumbnail which means it must have been a shadow, possibly of the seat in front of him ... Damn


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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by bibi on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:13 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGkwFRbjqIg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emichaeljacksonhoaxdeath%2Ecom%2F%3Fpage%5Fid%3D293%2Fhoax%2Ddeath%2Fghosts%2Ddummy%2Dand%2Dmjs%2Dvoice%2F&feature=player_embedded


guys..just watch this...at the very end they show how make up changed MJ completely for his music video Ghosts!!!!! And also, did you notice in that picture from the memorial that the guy's face is black but his hands are white???? Razz
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by mjfan on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:14 pm

Rachel wrote:Hey Guys,

Firstly thanks to Lauren for showing this to me! Second, someone posted this picture on MJHD chat and I wanted to share it with you.

Someone has pointed out it looks like Michael at the memorial in a disguse.

What do you think? It makes me giggle a bit lol

http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/0908/cf/d0248d0bcaa5.jpg

If that's Michael, he has to be in full face prosthetic makeup. His face is too full.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by CantStopLovingU on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:14 pm

bec wrote:Why's this guy front and center? Here is directly in front of Paris for her speech:

http://www.expressnightout.com/content/photos/20090707-jackson-450.jpg

And I guess they could be leaving with the coffin in the last link. But then why's this guy jumping out of his seat to split so fast? No one else is standing.
Refering to this pic:
http://media.komonews.com/images/090707_jackson_large_20.jpg

Funny how he is like you said front and center, right in front of the coffin. Now that you have pointed him out, he sticks out like a sore thumb lol, but OMG I hope with all the hope I have in my entire body that is him.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by carpenoctem on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:19 pm

Doesn't it look like it's from the end of the memorial. The direction they're walking is from where they him in though or am i wrong?
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by aamj07 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:20 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:
emo_pinkt wrote:It wasnt a glove,...It was a shadow.
If it was mj he probably went to say the ending of will you be there. Far fetched I know right? lol

I don't know, but look like a glove to me :

Ditto, it's pretty drastic for a shadow esp with the cut-off area just before the wrist. I reckon he had a black glove on then whipped it off before he got up to leave with the coffin. Nobody else is leaving, why is he? Surely he can't have had something more important to go to. What could have been more important than this event that most would have given their eyeteeth to go to?

*EDIT*
Now you've got me doubting it human_nature Razz
I can make out a possible thumbnail which means it must have been a shadow, possibly of the seat in front of him ... Damn

I thought it was a glove at first too but it's definitely a shadow, look at the womans hands next to him...same color.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by bec on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:24 pm

Additional observation: notice people who actually need a cane as a support device tend to tuck the cane in beside the chair while they are seated? It is people who are using a cane as a prop who tend to present it while seated. Think about it.

As in theater or disguise, it's almost a habit born of wanting to take care not to "forget" the prop. If you are carrying a cane as a legitimate supportive device, you will not forget it when you get up to leave, but an actor who doesn't need the cane might.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:25 pm

aamj07 wrote:
Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:
emo_pinkt wrote:It wasnt a glove,...It was a shadow.
If it was mj he probably went to say the ending of will you be there. Far fetched I know right? lol

I don't know, but look like a glove to me :

Ditto, it's pretty drastic for a shadow esp with the cut-off area just before the wrist. I reckon he had a black glove on then whipped it off before he got up to leave with the coffin. Nobody else is leaving, why is he? Surely he can't have had something more important to go to. What could have been more important than this event that most would have given their eyeteeth to go to?

*EDIT*
Now you've got me doubting it human_nature Razz
I can make out a possible thumbnail which means it must have been a shadow, possibly of the seat in front of him ... Damn

I thought it was a glove at first too but it's definitely a shadow, look at the womans hands next to him...same color.

she wear 2 black gloves Wink
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:26 pm

bec wrote:Additional observation: notice people who actually need a cane as a support device tend to tuck the cane in beside the chair while they are seated? It is people who are using a cane as a prop who tend to present it while seated. Think about it.

As in theater or disguise, it's almost a habit born of wanting to take care not to "forget" the prop. If you are carrying a cane as a legitimate supportive device, you will not forget it when you get up to leave, but an actor who doesn't need the cane might.

Very good observation Bec! I mentioned the cane also and how it would be like Michael to carry one for effect. I wil have to watch the memorial and see if I can spot him and what he does with the cane.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by emo_pinkt on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:34 pm

It actually does look like a camera...Im beginning to think its a reporter in disguise. Sad
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by DawneVee on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:36 pm

I have one thing to say to all of you....
Geez you guys are good!
Very Happy
Guess I will go dig around online for some memorial pictures of this dude and see what I find that already hasn't been posted.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:36 pm

If it's a camera.. Michael LOVES camera Wink
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:36 pm

emo_pinkt wrote:It actually does look like a camera...Im beginning to think its a reporter in disguise. Sad
Didn't that woman do that with her mobile phone at the memorial? She's an american tv personality and I think she sat in the 3rd/4th row.

Can anyone remember the order of the rows? First row was family, second row was friends? Third row was media/journos and so on
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by aamj07 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:38 pm

@Human_Nature, you're crackin me up!
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:39 pm

aamj07 wrote:@Human_Nature, you're crackin me up!
Seconded! Lol lol!
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:42 pm

I need a box of tissues reading this thread, it's just funny!!!!
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:43 pm

me oh Razz lol!

jocolor Smile Very Happy clown
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by love4mjalways on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:45 pm

http://www.handresearch.com/news/in-memoriam-hands-of-michael-jackson-hold-my-hand.htm

here is some pics of his right hand with gloves.. and it looks like a glove to me as compared to his right hand
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by aamj07 on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:47 pm

Hmm..It definitely does look like he's holding a camera. But, lets think about this. If it is a reporter in disguise, how did he get a seat in the second row, directly behind the family?
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by carpenoctem on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:47 pm

Well I heven't watched the whole memorial yet only part of it. So far i only noticed once that he was gone. That was during Rev. Al Sharpton's speech.
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:48 pm

carpenoctem wrote:Well I heven't watched the whole memorial yet only part of it. So far i only noticed once that he was gone. That was during Rev. Al Sharpton's speech.
Toilet break? lol

On a serious note - did Jennifer Hudson sing after Al Sharpton's speech by any chance?
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:50 pm

carpenoctem wrote:Well I heven't watched the whole memorial yet only part of it. So far i only noticed once that he was gone. That was during Rev. Al Sharpton's speech.

Maybe he needed to wee?!
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by carpenoctem on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:56 pm

No she sang before Al Sharpton and"he" was there as far as i could see
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by bibi on Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:58 pm

some people are saying this might be Firpo Carr, on MJHD. HE was a family friend i think..here are 2 pics of him:
http://www.americandigest.org/mt-archives/jacksonrug2.jpg
http://www.michaeljacksonforsale.com/picture/News66.JPG

According to the first picture, it would make sense....but the 2nd one is more recent and looks nothing lke the guy from the memorial... Laughing so..I think it could really be MJ
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:01 pm

bibi wrote:some people are saying this might be Firpo Carr, on MJHD. HE was a family friend i think..here are 2 pics of him:
http://www.americandigest.org/mt-archives/jacksonrug2.jpg
http://www.michaeljacksonforsale.com/picture/News66.JPG

According to the first picture, it would make sense....but the 2nd one is more recent and looks nothing lke the guy from the memorial... Laughing so..I think it could really be MJ
WOAH! That's a drastic change. When I saw the first pic I thought this theory was debunked because I could understand if it was the old guy and the similarities between him and the guy in the 2nd row at the memorial.
But the second pic - heck that's better than '10 years younger', it's almost a completely different person.
The theory still stands cheers
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by emanviam on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:02 pm

OMG!
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Silence on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:04 pm

looks like snoop dogg to me, dunno why
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by bibi on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:05 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
bibi wrote:some people are saying this might be Firpo Carr, on MJHD. HE was a family friend i think..here are 2 pics of him:
http://www.americandigest.org/mt-archives/jacksonrug2.jpg
http://www.michaeljacksonforsale.com/picture/News66.JPG

According to the first picture, it would make sense....but the 2nd one is more recent and looks nothing lke the guy from the memorial... Laughing so..I think it could really be MJ
WOAH! That's a drastic change. When I saw the first pic I thought this theory was debunked because I could understand if it was the old guy and the similarities between him and the guy in the 2nd row at the memorial.
But the second pic - heck that's better than '10 years younger', it's almost a completely different person.
The theory still stands cheers

Yeah...it doesn't look like the same guy..I dont know... scratch
although i dont even that could be the same guy as the one at the memorial..because the one in the picture has black short hair, while the guy at the memorial has long white hair! Smile
But did anybody notice that the one at the memorial has a black face and white hands???


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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Human_nature on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:07 pm

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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by bibi on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:09 pm

Human_nature wrote:Video with Firpo Carr Very Happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnAhcHMgR_8
then who is that guy in the 1st picture?anybody knows? Question Question Question
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Rach on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:12 pm

That is not the same person IMO!!!!! I still think it's MJ at the memorial Smile
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Re: Is this Michael at the memorial?!

Post by Silence on Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:14 pm

hmm, michael's head seems to be alot smaller than this guy's head.






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