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Post by Souza81 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:45 am

As if we didn't know already, but the AP is reporting it now, look at this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33122242

I wonder when we will get leaked more from the Autopsy report....


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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by DreamsComeTrue on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:52 am

Thank you Souza for this!!!

The truth is starting to surface...about his good health!

but he wasn’t the sickly skeleton of a man portrayed by tabloids, according to his autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press.

I wonder what the paramedics have seen then...
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:57 am

I had forgotten about the autopsy report...is there an official report?

He was fine, but his lungs were chronically inflamed...

If he was really addicted to propofol like they say.. wouldn't it affect his heart? The article says his heart was strong!
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Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:59 am

It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Souza81 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:05 am

Harleyblonde wrote:It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?

He's alive, just new homework + preparing people for the fact he's not dead. Others than us will start to wonder how the hell he could have died while he was healthy as a fish....

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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:16 am

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Post by lovelidae on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:21 am

Okay guys, I don't know if I was the only one who saw this but this line in the article "His 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man" stuck out to me.

Since when was MJ 5'9" tall? At the beginning of all of this we were told the body the coroner's office had was 5'10" tall, and many thought the real MJ was 5'11".

Again, where did 5'9" come from? Is anyone seeing what I'm seeing.

MJ is so alive.
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Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:23 am

Harleyblonde wrote:It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?

I think this too sometimes. However it doesnt explain the lack of emotion from his family
Maybe they are all a little cold-hearted :S

It's so sad if he really is gone. If I find hard evidence he is gone forever I will switch to the murder theory
Because after hearing those scared voice mails and reading about the bad people that were out to get him I wouldnt doubt it :-(

p.s. I didnt know he had tattooed eye brows and lips???? Shocked
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Souza81 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:25 am

lovelidae wrote:MJ is so alive.

Best sentence I read today, AMEN!

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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:26 am

"The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm."

Proof the kids are more than likely his
Remember all those rumours about how he couldnt produce sperm after joe beat him?
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Souza81 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:28 am

HeavyHearts wrote:"The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm."

Proof the kids are more than likely his
Remember all those rumours about how he couldnt produce sperm after joe beat him?

Huh, where did you read that?

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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by jpresley on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:29 am

He's alive, just new homework + preparing people for the fact he's not dead. Others than us will start to wonder how the hell he could have died while he was healthy as a fish....

Exactly, Souza! Anyone can die of a drug overdose, that's a fact. What isn't possible is that a habitual drug user that dies of a drug overdose is overall very healthy. It's an oxymoron. If he were using all of the scripts we have been told he was using, then there would have been other signs, elevated liver enzymes pointing to a distressed/possibly failing liver, irritation of the stomach lining, even possibly heart issues related to the downers & propofol (snicker) that Michael was 'taking'. I am surprised that his height is reported as 5'9 though. All along I thought he was 5'11 and w/ his boots on even taller. Even in his booking photo his height is listed as 5'11:

In any event, the autopsy finding certainly don't show a frail, sickly man that the paramedics couldn't recongnize. CTFO!! I can hardly wait to hear if any of the media point out this discrepancy or simply let it lie like they have done with everything else in this Keystone Cops investigation.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by jpresley on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:31 am

lovelidae wrote:Okay guys, I don't know if I was the only one who saw this but this line in the article "His 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man" stuck out to me.

Since when was MJ 5'9" tall? At the beginning of all of this we were told the body the coroner's office had was 5'10" tall, and many thought the real MJ was 5'11".

Again, where did 5'9" come from? Is anyone seeing what I'm seeing.

MJ is so alive.

Ha! Great minds, I pointed out the height discrepancy in my post too.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:32 am

Souza81 wrote:
HeavyHearts wrote:"The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm."

Proof the kids are more than likely his
Remember all those rumours about how he couldnt produce sperm after joe beat him?

Huh, where did you read that?

Very last line of the report ! :-)
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:33 am

Oh and a suggestion here :3
You should make the title of the thread something like
AP claims to have the official autopsy report
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:34 am

Souza81 wrote:
HeavyHearts wrote:"The coroner also found Jackson was actively producing sperm."

Proof the kids are more than likely his
Remember all those rumours about how he couldnt produce sperm after joe beat him?

Huh, where did you read that?

They send some to England for whatever reason
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by city.gal1 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:36 am

Check out tmz:

UPDATE: 1:03 PM ET The Coroner also determined Jackson was actively producing sperm.

More details on the Michael Jackson autopsy. According to a new report, Jackson had osteoarthritis which was visible on his lower spine and fingers.

He had dark tattoos on his eyebrows and around his eyes and a dark tattoo on the front of his scalp -- possibly to cover bald spots.

The report says he was balding and suffered a skin disease. We've previously reported Jackson suffered from vitiligo.

His heart was strong but his lungs were inflamed.

The report says Jackson's stomach had no obvious signs of pills, nor were illegal drugs or alcohol detected.

The manner of death -- already reported to be a homicide -- was based in part on Propofol administered in a non-hospital setting.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0Shsn9TGw
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:45 am

Not to sound creepy lol! But hope the froze his sperm and one day I will break in and steal it and have a mini MJ of my own cheers
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:59 am

city.gal1 wrote:Check out tmz:

UPDATE: 1:03 PM ET The Coroner also determined Jackson was actively producing sperm.

More details on the Michael Jackson autopsy. According to a new report, Jackson had osteoarthritis which was visible on his lower spine and fingers.

He had dark tattoos on his eyebrows and around his eyes and a dark tattoo on the front of his scalp -- possibly to cover bald spots.

The report says he was balding and suffered a skin disease. We've previously reported Jackson suffered from vitiligo.

His heart was strong but his lungs were inflamed.

The report says Jackson's stomach had no obvious signs of pills, nor were illegal drugs or alcohol detected.

The manner of death -- already reported to be a homicide -- was based in part on Propofol administered in a non-hospital setting.


Read more: [url=http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0Shsn9TGw
http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0Shsn9TGw[/quote[/url]]


WTF??????????

I just started to laugh....THIS IS THE MOMENT, THIS IS IT! My Gosh...can you see what I see? The news are starting to change...in Michael's favor! This is turning all against tabloid lies from the last 3 months!

I can't believe this!!! No sings of pills???...NO illegal drugs???...Gosh, The truth started to prevail...!!!

Thank you for the news @city.gal1......I'm feel so happy!!!
MJ is so laughing right now...



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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:00 pm

Many many things are so weird there.
My bf told me they forgot a scar, on his right leg , due to the spider bite he had ..remember ?
And he's right too. It was big, so the scar should be there..........

Thanks Souza.

I still believe he's alive.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:04 pm

WOW! is all hell about to break lose?
i too still believe he's alive
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by jpresley on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:06 pm

yaya wrote:WOW! is all hell about to break lose?
i too still believe he's alive

I truly believe the best is yet to come!
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:08 pm

yaya wrote:WOW! is all hell about to break lose?
i too still believe he's alive

So much stuff is emerging in the last week!
First the steven hoefflin (? i cant remember his last name LOL) statement
Now this
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Post by Truth_or_Dare on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:09 pm

This just seems like damage control from Michael's side..."brushing" his image before he comes back Very Happy
It even talks about his sperm...come on...
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Smelly on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:10 pm

Is anyone else frigging excited?!
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Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:12 pm

Smelly wrote:Is anyone else frigging excited?!

I am !! bounce bounce
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:13 pm

HeavyHearts wrote:
Smelly wrote:Is anyone else frigging excited?!

I am !!

me too!
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Post by Truth_or_Dare on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:13 pm

Me too!!!
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Post by DreamsComeTrue on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:15 pm

HeavyHearts wrote:
yaya wrote:WOW! is all hell about to break lose?
i too still believe he's alive

So much stuff is emerging in the last week!
First the steven hoefflin (? i cant remember his last name LOL) statement
Now this

What goes around, comes around...(did I wrote that correct? ) The tabloids are starting to burn, as soon as the truth comes out...

Anyway...I'm so excited...This is all good news!!! This shows how tabloids lied about MJ...

I can't wait to see what happens next....
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:15 pm

||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan
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Post by neverlandprincess on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:17 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?

dunno...I feel the same way. If he is gone then that is the way it is but I really need to know why...not the bs story with holes in it.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:21 pm

HeavyHearts wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?

I think this too sometimes. However it doesnt explain the lack of emotion from his family
Maybe they are all a little cold-hearted :S

It's so sad if he really is gone. If I find hard evidence he is gone forever I will switch to the murder theory
Because after hearing those scared voice mails and reading about the bad people that were out to get him I wouldnt doubt it :-(

p.s. I didnt know he had tattooed eye brows and lips????

I knew his eyeliner was...I wonder about the lip thing though-at the 30th Anniversay performance of Bille Jean the light is so bright it kind of washes out his face and his lips are not as visible. I have always said that this is why he wore so much make up-he didnt "turn white" he turned "no color"-the lights and all washed out his features. ANYWAY-if he had all that tatood on he had good reason.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Smelly on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:22 pm

shirley-grace wrote:||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan

how did you find that out? That clue boggles my mind lol
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:25 pm

Smelly wrote:
shirley-grace wrote:||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan

how did you find that out? That clue boggles my mind lol

That's what JCC said about 2 month ago
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Post by neverlandprincess on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:26 pm

@Shirly-Grace-waht does that even mean?
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:27 pm

neverlandprincess wrote:
HeavyHearts wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?

I think this too sometimes. However it doesnt explain the lack of emotion from his family
Maybe they are all a little cold-hearted :S

It's so sad if he really is gone. If I find hard evidence he is gone forever I will switch to the murder theory
Because after hearing those scared voice mails and reading about the bad people that were out to get him I wouldnt doubt it :-(

p.s. I didnt know he had tattooed eye brows and lips????

I knew his eyeliner was...I wonder about the lip thing though-at the 30th Anniversay performance of Bille Jean the light is so bright it kind of washes out his face and his lips are not as visible. I have always said that this is why he wore so much make up-he didnt "turn white" he turned "no color"-the lights and all washed out his features. ANYWAY-if he had all that tatood on he had good reason.
Maybe he just had those tatoos because he liked it. there doesn´t have to be a special meaning to it..
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Post by Smelly on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:28 pm

Do you mean he told us what the clue meant, coz I know about the clue with the lines
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by HeavyHearts on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:31 pm

who is JCC?
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Post by infinitylady on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:32 pm

Neverlandprincess, I am with you on it.

Not all this bogus exaggerations. Bring the meat and potatoes of validity of what is possible.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by neverlandprincess on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:37 pm

GirlInTheMirror1 wrote:
neverlandprincess wrote:
HeavyHearts wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:It is reading realistic things like this that frighten me and begin to doubt just a tiny bit if he is perhaps dead and we are all wrong. I did firmly believe before and I still want to. What do others think to this article?

I think this too sometimes. However it doesnt explain the lack of emotion from his family
Maybe they are all a little cold-hearted :S

It's so sad if he really is gone. If I find hard evidence he is gone forever I will switch to the murder theory
Because after hearing those scared voice mails and reading about the bad people that were out to get him I wouldnt doubt it :-(

p.s. I didnt know he had tattooed eye brows and lips????

I knew his eyeliner was...I wonder about the lip thing though-at the 30th Anniversay performance of Bille Jean the light is so bright it kind of washes out his face and his lips are not as visible. I have always said that this is why he wore so much make up-he didnt "turn white" he turned "no color"-the lights and all washed out his features. ANYWAY-if he had all that tatood on he had good reason.
Maybe he just had those tatoos because he liked it. there doesn´t have to be a special meaning to it..

No there doesnt I just though it was rational to assume that was why.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by DreamsComeTrue on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:38 pm

shirley-grace wrote:||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan

Sorry, but how do you relate this to the topic?

@Smelly...I think the clue was puzzeled out by Rae from Lefora forum...and somehow, was related to a video posted on Leachim page, the ballons video...which had at the end of it this date...You can find the link either here (somewhere) or on MJHD
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:40 pm

Smelly wrote:Do you mean he told us what the clue meant, coz I know about the clue with the lines

yup
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by 4evermichael71 on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:41 pm

As I read the report I began to doubt everything I came to believe. For a moment I thought "Michael is really gone" :-( My daughter (who is 17 and a second generation MJ fan who "borrows" my cds lol) said "Mom, just because you read it doesn't make it true" Priceless! I will continue to hope until there's none left. At least now we know that if it's true, he was healthy and could have done the shows and the tabloids are getting burnt by their own dishonesty.
Oh, and I never doubted he fathered the children, but this report proves it. Oh and something to ponder...couldn't this kind of sound like the findings of a physical examination not just an autopsy? I could be wrong, so don't bash me if I am..it's just my mind continuing to work in overdrive for the passed 97 days.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:45 pm

DreamsComeTrue wrote:
shirley-grace wrote:||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan

Sorry, but how do you relate this to the topic?

@Smelly...I think the clue was puzzeled out by Rae from Lefora forum...and somehow, was related to a video posted on Leachim page, the ballons video...which had at the end of it this date...You can find the link either here (somewhere) or on MJHD


I love those clues and this one in particular gave me a monster headache and since today is Oct. 1st I thought it fits perfectly
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:01 pm

shirley-grace wrote:
DreamsComeTrue wrote:
shirley-grace wrote:||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan

Sorry, but how do you relate this to the topic?

@Smelly...I think the clue was puzzeled out by Rae from Lefora forum...and somehow, was related to a video posted on Leachim page, the ballons video...which had at the end of it this date...You can find the link either here (somewhere) or on MJHD


I love those clues and this one in particular gave me a monster headache and since today is Oct. 1st I thought it fits perfectly

i wonder what the "thursday of this is it" means...
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Truth_or_Dare on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:03 pm

I love it how these clues make sense only after the predicted event took place Very Happy
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by Smelly on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:08 pm

DreamsComeTrue wrote:
shirley-grace wrote:||||||| \|||\\||||\\||| means

"October 1st will be Thursday of This Is It"

sorry I'm just a JCC fan

Sorry, but how do you relate this to the topic?

@Smelly...I think the clue was puzzeled out by Rae from Lefora forum...and somehow, was related to a video posted on Leachim page, the ballons video...which had at the end of it this date...You can find the link either here (somewhere) or on MJHD

oh gotcha, thanks Smile
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by shirley-grace on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:10 pm

It's all over the news in Germany now
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by applesaucers on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:16 pm

Didn't Liza say when the autopsy report come out, 'all hell's going to break loose.'

I'm liking this kind of news and I laughed at the sperm part.
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Re: No sickly frail old man...

Post by applesaucers on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:25 pm

& what's up with that Karen saying he was 108lbs, etc and the "This is NOT It" campaign to boycott "This Is It"?

Yeah, hell IS breaking loose among the fans.
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