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Post by illusionist on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:01 pm

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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:03 pm

You mean this one ? or.... :

http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-death-propofol/
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ilprincipe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:04 pm

Jackson Autopsy -- Singer Was a Healthy Mess
Posted Oct 1st 2009 12:55PM by TMZ Staff
UPDATE: 1:03 PM ET The Coroner also determined Jackson was actively producing sperm.

More details on the Michael Jackson autopsy. According to a new report, Jackson had osteoarthritis which was visible on his lower spine and fingers.

He had dark tattoos on his eyebrows and around his eyes and a dark tattoo on the front of his scalp -- possibly to cover the permanent scarring from burns suffered in Pepsi mishap.

The report says he was balding and suffered a skin disease. We've previously reported Jackson suffered from vitiligo.

His heart was strong but his lungs were inflamed.

The report says Jackson's stomach had no obvious signs of pills, nor were illegal drugs or alcohol detected.

The manner of death -- already reported to be a homicide -- was based in part on Propofol administered in a non-hospital setting.
More Michael Jackson

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-death-propofol/#comments#ixzz0SiElJi2w
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by hAZZELY on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:10 pm

well, im sorry but all those news i have readed this days kinda makes me feel this is not a hoax anymore... Neutral , not refering to your post, i mean all..general :S
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:14 pm

"A healthy mess" This report contradicts all we've been told!! I'm confused.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by illusionist on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:15 pm

Damage control?
Vindication?
Redemption?


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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by illusionist on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:16 pm

ishealive wrote:"A healthy mess" This report contradicts all we've been told!! I'm confused.

Exactly
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:20 pm

illusionist wrote:Damage control?
Vindication?
Redemption?

those all sound good
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by rowdyangel on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:20 pm

According to some tabloids soon after the original autopsy report came out it was claimed that there were pills in his stomach and now all of a sudden there was no trace of any!! WTF??
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:22 pm

rowdyangel wrote:According to some tabloids soon after the original autopsy report came out it was claimed that there were pills in his stomach and now all of a sudden there was no trace of any!! WTF??


Hmmm making the tabloids look stupid....
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:23 pm

ishealive wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:According to some tabloids soon after the original autopsy report came out it was claimed that there were pills in his stomach and now all of a sudden there was no trace of any!! WTF??


Hmmm making the tabloids look stupid....

and i LOVE the idea of that!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by illusionist on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:24 pm

Do you guys see where this is going?
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by rowdyangel on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:25 pm

illusionist wrote:Do you guys see where this is going?

The way is being paved for him to return IMHO. I think that all hell will break loose now and the sh*t will hit the fan. Michael's revenge on the media has begun!


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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by jpresley on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:26 pm

I think we're being led down the Yellow Brick Road.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:26 pm

illusionist wrote:Do you guys see where this is going?

Well i'm thinking this is all backfiring in the medias faces... all they said was BS which we already knew. MJ is getting his revenge!!!!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ~StarLight~UK~ on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:26 pm

Is it too soon to be a bit happy about this?!!!!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:27 pm

that's what i think too, rowdyangel
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by rowdyangel on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:27 pm

ishealive wrote:
illusionist wrote:Do you guys see where this is going?

Well i'm thinking this is all backfiring in the medias faces... all they said was BS which we already knew. MJ is getting his revenge!!!!

He is so damned clever!!!!!!! Genius!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by jpresley on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:28 pm

hAZZELY wrote:well, im sorry but all those news i have readed this days kinda makes me feel this is not a hoax anymore... , not refering to your post, i mean all..general :S

No, this is all very good news. We already knew there was an 'autopsy', we already knew that MJ's 'death' was due to "acute propofol intoxication" (WTFever, but I digress). This is simply a rehashing of the same information, only in a much, much different light!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:29 pm

rowdyangel wrote:
ishealive wrote:
illusionist wrote:Do you guys see where this is going?

Well i'm thinking this is all backfiring in the medias faces... all they said was BS which we already knew. MJ is getting his revenge!!!!

He is so damned clever!!!!!!! Genius!


Yeah he is brilliant!!!
I always thought he was giving the media enough rope to hang themselves... wooohooo MJ come back soon
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by hAZZELY on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:37 pm

jpresley wrote:
hAZZELY wrote:well, im sorry but all those news i have readed this days kinda makes me feel this is not a hoax anymore... , not refering to your post, i mean all..general :S

No, this is all very good news. We already knew there was an 'autopsy', we already knew that MJ's 'death' was due to "acute propofol intoxication" (WTFever, but I digress). This is simply a rehashing of the same information, only in a much, much different light!

I know all that..but fact is why all those news now? What does that proof? It doesn't prove he's alive..maybe people is just trying to get atention and none of that is true..too much time has passed and still no solid evidence. I wish this was true, and it was, like you said, his way of coming back..
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by yaya on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:40 pm

hAZZELY wrote:
jpresley wrote:
hAZZELY wrote:well, im sorry but all those news i have readed this days kinda makes me feel this is not a hoax anymore... , not refering to your post, i mean all..general :S

No, this is all very good news. We already knew there was an 'autopsy', we already knew that MJ's 'death' was due to "acute propofol intoxication" (WTFever, but I digress). This is simply a rehashing of the same information, only in a much, much different light!

I know all that..but fact is why all those news now? What does that proof? It doesn't prove he's alive..maybe people is just trying to get atention and none of that is true..too much time has passed and still no solid evidence. I wish this was true, and it was, like you said, his way of coming back..

i know, it doesn't prove he's alive. but if you already believe that he is (which i do), this should be good news! it puts to shame whatever trashy tabloids reported that he weighed 108 lbs, had no hair, needle marks all over his body, etc. the article should be proof that the real truth is finally starting to come out.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by amber on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:50 pm

WOW!!! well, this confirms what we new,mj was in good health and DID NOT do drugs,he loves his kids too much so this is great. What i find interesting is the producing sperm bit this is fantastic guys, this is mj saying i no what youre saying mark lester but i am capable of fathering my own kids!!!! GO MJ this has reinforced my faith, whats released that we didnt no really, he's just getting a point across to the idiots who thought the first autopsy was true, he's fighting back
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ilprincipe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:54 pm

When did Kenny tweet about the big day?
2 days ago, right?

I think today is the big day....hmm....
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by rowdyangel on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:05 pm

amber wrote:........ What i find interesting is the producing sperm bit this is fantastic guys, this is mj saying i no what youre saying mark lester but i am capable of fathering my own kids!!!! .......G

That never occurred to me, I just thought it was a weird thing for the media to say. Ha. Now I definitely see it!!!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:11 pm

rowdyangel wrote:
amber wrote:........ What i find interesting is the producing sperm bit this is fantastic guys, this is mj saying i no what youre saying mark lester but i am capable of fathering my own kids!!!! .......G

That never occurred to me, I just thought it was a weird thing for the media to say. Ha. Now I definitely see it!!!


Lol that is funny, I can't think of any other reason why we'd hear about him "actively producing sperm"
Well spotted!

Thank you TMZ Wink
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:15 pm

The Media had their 3+ month run!! it's Michael's turn now....
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:17 pm

Susan Otak or whatever her name is said 2 weeks ago on her blog that she felt something big was gonna happen right?

I cant even breathe right now. I was so upset earlier when I read the article thinking he was really gone...but not anymore!!!


And the sperm part.................**in a soft seductive voice** Oh Michael,, come hither, for we shall fornicate into eternity...

sorry for that...had to be done!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ilprincipe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:18 pm

ishealive wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:
amber wrote:........ What i find interesting is the producing sperm bit this is fantastic guys, this is mj saying i no what youre saying mark lester but i am capable of fathering my own kids!!!! .......G

That never occurred to me, I just thought it was a weird thing for the media to say. Ha. Now I definitely see it!!!


Lol that is funny, I can't think of any other reason why we'd hear about him "actively producing sperm"
Well spotted!

Thank you TMZ Wink

Is it common if you examine a body to check the "sperm production" ????
I can't imagine that....
or just a big f*** you to all ppl and the media who were doubting his paternity of the 3 kids...
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:19 pm

@Jacksonologist - oh holy s**t
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:21 pm

ilprincipe wrote:
ishealive wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:
amber wrote:........ What i find interesting is the producing sperm bit this is fantastic guys, this is mj saying i no what youre saying mark lester but i am capable of fathering my own kids!!!! .......G

That never occurred to me, I just thought it was a weird thing for the media to say. Ha. Now I definitely see it!!!


Lol that is funny, I can't think of any other reason why we'd hear about him "actively producing sperm"
Well spotted!

Thank you TMZ

Is it common if you examine a body to check the "sperm production" ????
I can't imagine that....
or just a big f*** you to all ppl and the media who were doubting his paternity of the 3 kids...


Well *lol* the way I see it they were doing an autopsy on a dead body that had apparantely died from a drug overdose, checking his sperm count is kind of odd... unless the coroner was curious!!!!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:24 pm

I am no expert and only have limited medical knowledge but my Sister is a trained nurse and has qualifications in midwifery (I know not relevent in this case!!!) but she is not aware of any tests that enable proof of being able to produce sperm on a corpse. Do we know this is from a reliable source and if he is alive this document will be put out as part of the hoax.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ilprincipe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:26 pm

@harleyblonde:
I found this thread interesting..
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/tmz-information-observations-2/tmz-the-first-on-the-autopsy-not-ap/
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Smelly on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:28 pm

I can't contain my excitement!!!!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ilprincipe on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:35 pm

Smelly wrote:I can't contain my excitement!!!!
me neither....I feel like jumping up and down on my couch....
crazy-confused-stunned-speechless...
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by PinkLizard on Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:10 pm

This is great, finally.........................the fight back!!!! This is going to be so good! This is it guys! THIS IS IT!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by DreamsComeTrue on Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:35 pm

ishealive wrote:
ilprincipe wrote:
ishealive wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:
amber wrote:........ What i find interesting is the producing sperm bit this is fantastic guys, this is mj saying i no what youre saying mark lester but i am capable of fathering my own kids!!!! .......G

That never occurred to me, I just thought it was a weird thing for the media to say. Ha. Now I definitely see it!!!


Lol that is funny, I can't think of any other reason why we'd hear about him "actively producing sperm"
Well spotted!

Thank you TMZ

Is it common if you examine a body to check the "sperm production" ????
I can't imagine that....
or just a big f*** you to all ppl and the media who were doubting his paternity of the 3 kids...


Well *lol* the way I see it they were doing an autopsy on a dead body that had apparantely died from a drug overdose, checking his sperm count is kind of odd... unless the coroner was curious!!!!

LMAO

JEZZ, I'm so excited about this! I mean, it's like Michael let the media to talk all that stuff about him, and now he finally gets his revenge! The MAN is a GENIUS!

Though, I wonder if the tabloids will report this as well, like big breaking news, as they did when they reported the opposite...
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by annieisnotokey on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:06 pm

I wonder how a dead body can actively produce anything.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by amber on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:09 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:I wonder how a dead body can actively produce anything.
well said annie!!! MJ LIVES
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:20 pm

Maybe I am losing the plot or my sanity!!! BUT
I cannot understand why you are all happy with the release of this autopsy report, all it does is tell us that MJ was reasonably healthy, incidintely inflamed lungs are not too good-it reduces lung capacity causing breathlessness and worsens as the years pass. It can be caused by smoking, bronchitus, asthma or repeated lung infections, allergies etc. Chronic means long term-in other words you have it for life-never cured. I thought MJ looked breatless after the "no one cares about us" on TTI.
Also some of you think that MJ has put this out via TMZ or any other medium/site and forgive me if you dont agree but would he want the world to know he had scars behind his ears with plastic surgery? and to know he had his scalp tattooed at the front etc because he was bald? I dont think so. And he was a private person as I remember him being filmed in an interview about his vitiligo and he just said he suffered from it and the rest was private. I dont know if any of you agree and feel the same but I am very upset since the release of these autopsy details and would love for somebody to have made them up as I do not think MJ would divulge personal things of this nature as part of the hoax. I do hope with all my heart that this is BS done by some crank because to my opinion it was either done by some saddo or it is the result of a real autopsy which would mean he is in fact dead.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:32 pm

@Harley this report contradicts everything the media has told us from day 1.
The way most of us here see it Michael is fighting back. The media lie all the time and it looks like they've had their run and now MJ is having his turn. It contradicts all the BS about him being completely bald, pills in his stomach, needle marks, no nose, anorexic etc etc etc....
To me as i've said before MJ gave them the rope and then ran wild with it!!! Michael is setting the record straight in his own way.
Also the bit about MJ producing sperm - I love that... What coroner checks a bodys sperm count while doing an autopsy on a dead body that presumably died of a drug over dose - also would there be sperm to check on a dead body - I highly doubt it.
This is good news Wink
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:55 pm

Thanks for that and I wished I believed it but I cant see it. Michael probably WAS bald as he had the bad pepsi accident, he did wear wigs and he did have his eyebrows tattoed etc, I really wish I could get it into my head that he is behind it but I cannot. The media has been slagging him off for over 20 years and he will be used to it, also he knew his true fans didn't take heed anyway and IF he was in danger/witness protection or just wanted peace in the latter half of his life and he did the hoax I think he will have more on his mind than to worry about getting his own back on the media. Just my opinion but I think you are all clutching at straws and maybe I am feeling pessimistic right now but I can't help it.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:59 pm

I´m listening to TMZ Live right now and they just said that he wasn´t bald but he had scars. I don´t know, it´s TMZ, but still. They said that these reports are the "real ones", once again according to them.

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They´ve heard a rumor that AEG has hired several Michael Jackson look a likes and that they take part in the movie. TMZ isn´t sure yet, they say, but they are going to find out. Hmm......
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Guest on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:08 pm

They will do anything to debunk that coroner video.
they will do anything to make people believe that mj is dead.
but i am not worried.

cause both coffins were empty.
lol.

mj is alive.

it's media hype again.

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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:09 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I´m listening to TMZ Live right now and they just said that he wasn´t bald but he had scars. I don´t know, it´s TMZ, but still. They said that these reports are the "real ones", once again according to them.

AND:

They´ve heard a rumor that AEG has hired several Michael Jackson look a likes and that they take part in the movie. TMZ isn´t sure yet, they say, but they are going to find out. Hmm......

Trouble is- how do we know what we are reading is true? I have read the autopsy details on several sites, some say he was bald, some just say he was tatooed at the front of his scalp, some say he had scarring behind his ears (which in all probability he will have had as he didnt look like a guy of 50-he will have had surgery for wrinkles-oops sorry but is true) and some say he just had scarring. There are so many different versions it is truly doing my head in !!!
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:11 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I´m listening to TMZ Live right now and they just said that he wasn´t bald but he had scars. I don´t know, it´s TMZ, but still. They said that these reports are the "real ones", once again according to them.

AND:

They´ve heard a rumor that AEG has hired several Michael Jackson look a likes and that they take part in the movie. TMZ isn´t sure yet, they say, but they are going to find out. Hmm......

Trouble is- how do we know what we are reading is true? I have read the autopsy details on several sites, some say he was bald, some just say he was tatooed at the front of his scalp, some say he had scarring behind his ears (which in all probability he will have had as he didnt look like a guy of 50-he will have had surgery for wrinkles-oops sorry but is true) and some say he just had scarring. There are so many different versions it is truly doing my head in !!!

Yeah I know, I don´t buy ´what they say about the autopsy report. But I was just saying that Harvey got that question and he answered it by saying this one is true, like he was 1000% sure. I mean who are they to have the real thing?
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by lovelidae on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:13 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I´m listening to TMZ Live right now and they just said that he wasn´t bald but he had scars. I don´t know, it´s TMZ, but still. They said that these reports are the "real ones", once again according to them.

AND:

They´ve heard a rumor that AEG has hired several Michael Jackson look a likes and that they take part in the movie. TMZ isn´t sure yet, they say, but they are going to find out. Hmm......

Trouble is- how do we know what we are reading is true? I have read the autopsy details on several sites, some say he was bald, some just say he was tatooed at the front of his scalp, some say he had scarring behind his ears (which in all probability he will have had as he didnt look like a guy of 50-he will have had surgery for wrinkles-oops sorry but is true) and some say he just had scarring. There are so many different versions it is truly doing my head in !!!

I think maybe you need to take a break from all of this tonight Harley, because you are clearly becoming distressed and down. Sometimes when I'm like this I take a minute to go over all of the discrepancies of the last 3 months and realize that more points to him being alive (which is what I believe 100%).

Then after that take a break from all of this and clear your head for awhile. Too much of anything is not good for you.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by WanaBstartnSthn on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:13 pm

i have a good feeling. I think "all hells gonna break loose".
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by Harleyblonde on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:18 pm

lovelidae wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:I´m listening to TMZ Live right now and they just said that he wasn´t bald but he had scars. I don´t know, it´s TMZ, but still. They said that these reports are the "real ones", once again according to them.

AND:

They´ve heard a rumor that AEG has hired several Michael Jackson look a likes and that they take part in the movie. TMZ isn´t sure yet, they say, but they are going to find out. Hmm......

Trouble is- how do we know what we are reading is true? I have read the autopsy details on several sites, some say he was bald, some just say he was tatooed at the front of his scalp, some say he had scarring behind his ears (which in all probability he will have had as he didnt look like a guy of 50-he will have had surgery for wrinkles-oops sorry but is true) and some say he just had scarring. There are so many different versions it is truly doing my head in !!!

I think maybe you need to take a break from all of this tonight Harley, because you are clearly becoming distressed and down. Sometimes when I'm like this I take a minute to go over all of the discrepancies of the last 3 months and realize that more points to him being alive (which is what I believe 100%).

Then after that take a break from all of this and clear your head for awhile. Too much of anything is not good for you.

Yes you are right, thanks for that and I should try to occupy my mind in other ways. I am feeling very down and despondant right now and I need to take stock and wind down. You really seem to know how I feel and I appreciate your advice. Take care and God bless.
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Re: Autopsy Results Vindicate Michael?

Post by ishealive on Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:22 pm

@MJ TMZ are involved they're Michael's brick man, they are/were a rubbish tabloid website and now all of a sudden they're answering hardcore questions...
How could they know this report is the truth, how could they be sure of anything... unless they're involved. Wink
TMZ have been the go to person since June 25th, I haven't seen any other "tabloid/media" answer any questions only report rubbish that they can't back up!

TMZ are in the know as far as i'm concerned...
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