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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:18 pm



Don't know if it's already been discussed within the eight pages of that topic, HOWEVER. I just wanted to point out a few things that I noticed.

1 - His hand is significantly whiter than his face.
2 - Tito talked at the memorial about MJ's many disguises.
3 - He is wearing glasses, and a hat. As are the rest of the Jackson family. Now, I didn't pay too much attention to the rest of the audience but I'm almost sure that nobody else wore glasses. At least nobody else that close to the family in floor seats. Perhaps they did that so 'hat man' could blend in even more. IT'S JUST AN OPINION.


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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:25 pm

That was me that posted he was behind Blanket, however once my eyes really focused on the picture he is about 5-6 seats over from Paris(to the her right)
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Rach on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:26 pm

I agree with you point about the sunglasses and thought it was odd at the time! It's like the glove thing, the whole family were wearing one glove and even though "Hat Man" isn't wearing a sequeened glove he is still wearing one!

Oh this is all so exciting!
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:26 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:That was me that posted he was behind Blanket, however once my eyes really focused on the picture he is about 5-6 seats over from Paris(to the her right)

Oh, okay!

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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:27 pm

Rachel wrote:I agree with you point about the sunglasses and thought it was odd at the time! It's like the glove thing, the whole family were wearing one glove and even though "Hat Man" isn't wearing a sequeened glove he is still wearing one!

Oh this is all so exciting!

I know!! I wish we could have realized this much sooner!

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:29 pm

I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by SmoothCriminal on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:29 pm

The hands are a dead giveaway Smile
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Silence on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:30 pm

I thought people found out that the "glove" is only a shadow ?
The colour of the hand could be lighting from the stage

hmm, the hands look thicker to me than MJs
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:32 pm

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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Rach on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:33 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us Razz
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Silence on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:35 pm

Rachel wrote:
Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us Razz


*lol* we should start making a list of questions for the Interview Souza will then do with him


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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:35 pm

Rachel wrote:
Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us Razz
Rachel, I for sure thought it was a glove, but then the lady next to him is wearing a pair too jocolor
I think wearing a glove would have been way to heat score.
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:35 pm

Silence wrote:I thought people found out that the "glove" is only a shadow ?
The colour of the hand could be lighting from the stage

hmm, the hands look thicker to me than MJs

Well, that's why I didn't mention the 'glove' thing, as it is clearly a shadow.
As for everything else, that could be why it's called a disguise, haha. Just saying. Especially since this time he's not just disguising himself from fans and paps by going out grocery shopping or something.

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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:36 pm

Rachel wrote:
Give.In.To.Me wrote:I, at first thought he was wearing a glove too, but if you really look closely his hand is shadowed, as are his pants and the womens hands sitting next to him.

I could have sworn it was a glove. When I look at it I can see the cuff of the glove but maybe I am mistaken? When Michael makes his come back we will have to ask him to clarify that for us Razz

It definitely LOOKS like a glove, but I do think it's a shadow because the woman's arm next to him is also black.

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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by emo_pinkt on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:37 pm


I dont think that his hands are lighter than his face..I think its just the lighting. He looks lighter in this pic.
Also he wasnt sitting behind blanket..
The shades thing is kinda wierd..Anyone know what type it is? Is it teh type mj usually wears?

I think that the glove is a shadow because if the notice the woman next to him her hands are black also but the shadow is higher up on her second hand.


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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by CharlieBarley on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:39 pm

I thought it was a shadow the first time I saw it, you can just about see the thumb nail and look at the shadow on his legs/lap the shadow line runs across the lap onto the hand.
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:41 pm

emo_pinkt wrote:
I dont think that his hands are lighter than his face..I think its just the lighting. He looks lighter in this pic.
Also he wasnt sitting behind blanket..
The shades thing is kinda wierd..Anyone know what type it is? Is it teh type mj usually wears?

yes, I know now he was not sitting behind blanket and I just took that part off of my post.
and in that photo his face looks much whiter.

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Post by STARbaybeeRoqk on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:43 pm

Lol...Maybe he was trying to kidnap the kids?????
but uh yeaa i did notice that he was directly behind blanket...i said that on MJHD lol atleast we got the same thoughts going on!!
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by mir26 on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:45 pm

the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:50 pm

mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?

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Post by SeeingClues on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:51 pm

wasn't it risky sitting behind Blanket..he's only seven and could have easily turned around and said "daddy daddy"...unless the kids weren't told he would be in disguise there? Or perhaps they are very disciplined..
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Post by mir26 on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:52 pm

missdahmer wrote:
mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?



yes I know what you mean,somehow he doesent fit in,idk he looks so strange and also the way he is sitting that looks an afwull lot like MJ,I get a weird feeling with this person like he is not real very strange.
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:53 pm

SeeingClues wrote:wasn't it risky sitting behind Blanket..he's only seven and could have easily turned around and said "daddy daddy"...unless the kids weren't told he would be in disguise there? Or perhaps they are very disciplined..

well.. it was found out that he was not sitting being blanket at all..

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Post by SeeingClues on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:55 pm

the fact that no one yet has been able to identify him outside of being MJ yet is pretty interesting.. we do have a lot of good researchers and "Jacksonologists" on here...
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:55 pm

mir26 wrote:
missdahmer wrote:
mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?



yes I know what you mean,somehow he doesent fit in,idk he looks so strange and also the way he is sitting that looks an afwull lot like MJ,I get a weird feeling with this person like he is not real very strange.


exactly! this person just LOOKS as if they are in disguise. and the way his hand is on his leg. it just looks very MJ-ish. I agree.

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Post by SmoothCriminal on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:55 pm

missdahmer wrote:
mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?

Lmao i remember that epoisode Smile
they guy looks outta place to me, and i agree they look like michaels hands
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Human_nature on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:56 pm

I'm pretty sure it's a glove, like this one, but black Wink


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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:57 pm

SmoothCriminal wrote:
missdahmer wrote:
mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?

Lmao i remember that epoisode Smile
they guy looks outta place to me, and i agree they look like michaels hands

haha good! didn't wanna sound weird by being the only person who watches that show, lol. I happen to find her very funny actually. and I'm 21. I don't have to be a kid to watch Disney channel anyway! Razz

but yeah.. he definitely looks kind of 'out there'.

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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:58 pm

Human_nature wrote:I'm pretty sure it's a glove, like this one, but black Wink

I agree it looks like that glove but the woman next to him also has a black shadow cast on her arm, as well.

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:58 pm

Human_nature wrote:I'm pretty sure it's a glove, like this one, but black Wink
so did the women next to him get a pair as well? lol!
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:01 pm

and i don't think that's a cane, you can clearly see whatever object this dude is holding has straps(camera or recorder?) A cane would have to be placed between his legs and there isn't anything there
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Post by Human_nature on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:03 pm

well..if it's a shadow, it's a weird shadow Cool
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Post by Rach on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:03 pm

Oh GITM, thanks for posting that enlarged picture. I can see now it looks like a shadow! Good spot.
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:05 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:and i don't think that's a cane, you can clearly see whatever object this dude is holding has straps(camera or recorder?) A cane would have to be placed between his legs and there isn't anything there

it LOOKS like a cane simply because it LOOKS like he's resting or leaning on it. I don't think it is a cane though because I can see a cord or strap or whatever, like you said.

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:08 pm

missdahmer wrote:
Give.In.To.Me wrote:and i don't think that's a cane, you can clearly see whatever object this dude is holding has straps(camera or recorder?) A cane would have to be placed between his legs and there isn't anything there

it LOOKS like a cane simply because it LOOKS like he's resting or leaning on it. I don't think it is a cane though because I can see a cord or strap or whatever, like you said.
So, IF it's MJ and IF it's a camera...is he filming this??? Is this like Candid Camera??

Naughty MJ...they said no cameras or recording devices. Very Happy


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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:10 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
missdahmer wrote:
Give.In.To.Me wrote:and i don't think that's a cane, you can clearly see whatever object this dude is holding has straps(camera or recorder?) A cane would have to be placed between his legs and there isn't anything there

it LOOKS like a cane simply because it LOOKS like he's resting or leaning on it. I don't think it is a cane though because I can see a cord or strap or whatever, like you said.
So, IF it's MJ and IF it's a camera...is he filming this??? Is this like Candid Camera??

HAHAHAHA. that would be kind of cool.

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Post by SmoothCriminal on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:13 pm

missdahmer wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:
missdahmer wrote:
mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?

Lmao i remember that epoisode Smile
they guy looks outta place to me, and i agree they look like michaels hands

haha good! didn't wanna sound weird by being the only person who watches that show, lol. I happen to find her very funny actually. and I'm 21. I don't have to be a kid to watch Disney channel anyway! Razz

but yeah.. he definitely looks kind of 'out there'.

Lol i find her funny too and im only 20 Smile
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Post by Guest on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:16 pm

SmoothCriminal wrote:
missdahmer wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:
missdahmer wrote:
mir26 wrote:the hands for me are the reason I keep staring at this pic they look so familair,they look a lot like MJ,s

same here! and just the entire hat, glasses, beard, hair, and cane thing. it's just so like WTF? idk if you've ever watched that's so raven, and I know this is gonna be a little irrelivant but sometimes she does disguises in the show haha and she does this one of an old man with a fedora hat, a cane, and a beard and I swear thats what this 'hat man' looks like! It just doesnt look like a normal thing for someone to be wearing to a memorial. you know what I mean?

Lmao i remember that epoisode Smile
they guy looks outta place to me, and i agree they look like michaels hands

haha good! didn't wanna sound weird by being the only person who watches that show, lol. I happen to find her very funny actually. and I'm 21. I don't have to be a kid to watch Disney channel anyway! Razz

but yeah.. he definitely looks kind of 'out there'.

Lol i find her funny too and im only 20 Smile

hahah she is awesome. pirat

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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:50 pm

That is a Black Glove on his hand & The Hat Man (A.K.A) (Michael) just sticks out like a sore thumb and the hat is a dead giveaway .... and The Medical Pants or Pajama Pants .... are a big sign saying "Hi everyone" and the Man leaving before Michael's Coffin .. that is not right away to leave when a funeral is processing ... what gave him special permission to leave before everyone ??? that 's my two cents .....!!!!
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Post by mjjforever72 on Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:50 pm

The lady beside him looks like she is wearing a glove too but just more solid black.
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by tis_ruthy on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:17 pm

Hiya, Ive been looking at photos of Michaels hands. As we all know they are quite distinctive..but he also holds his hands in a distinctive way and this for me convinces me one hundred percent that this guy with the  hat is Michael.  Look at the different pics of Michael's hands then take a look at a close up of the guy from memorial's hand and one of Michael's ..its astounding it really is...its the same hand!
From hands 2
From hands 2
From hands 2
From hands 2
From hands 2
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:22 pm

I just want to point out that from the above picture, the shadowing is present again(above the thumb and into the wrist area. There was no black glove. alien
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by velvetsilvergirl on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:23 pm

There was another pic of 'hat man' on MJHD that showed hi hat off when they moved the casket. He was bald on top. Do they have wigs out there with a phony bald top? If so, great. If not, I think it may have just be debunked.
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by velvetsilvergirl on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:27 pm

tis_ruthy wrote:Hiya, Ive been looking at photos of Michaels hands. As we all know they are quite distinctive..but he also holds his hands in a distinctive way and this for me convinces me one hundred percent that this guy with the hat is Michael. Look at the different pics of Michael's hands then take a look at a close up of the guy from memorial's hand and one of Michael's ..its astounding it really is...its the same hand!
From hands 2
From hands 2
From hands 2
From hands 2
From hands 2

I swear, before I found this site and MJHD I thought I was the sole person in the world who had a thing for MJ's hands! I'm so glad there are others out there who have noticed them. Hat Man's hands are definately very similar. Like you said, he hold the in a certain way. Kind of half open...
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by SeeingClues on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:29 pm

does anyone have photos of Macaulay's hands for a comparison as well?
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by tis_ruthy on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:40 pm

Velvet, i have never been so convinced of something in my life! 
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Post by tis_ruthy on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:40 pm

will look for macauleys..thing is both macauley and michael are star sign virgo..they will have a lot of similarities.
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Post by velvetsilvergirl on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:45 pm

tis_ruthy wrote:Velvet, i have never been so convinced of something in my life!

This is definately a strange situation. I was convinced too until I saw hat man without the hat. Again, can you get a wig with a phony bald top?
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by tis_ruthy on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:46 pm

velvet, where did you see hat man without a hat?
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Re: A few things about 'hat man'

Post by Rach on Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:47 pm

velvetsilvergirl wrote:
tis_ruthy wrote:Velvet, i have never been so convinced of something in my life!

This is definately a strange situation. I was convinced too until I saw hat man without the hat. Again, can you get a wig with a phony bald top?

Do you have a link to the picture? I wanna see it now!

I mean anything is possible. Look at movies and how realistic it is when people get shot or stabbed.
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