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Post by bittyditty on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:14 am

Hi all hope everyone is well. I wondering is anyone can help me with this photo.
https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img198/4265/article116187903e284920.jpg
I have been trying to name the two British actors on the right hand side of the photo as this has been photoshopped for some reason.
The original scene of Michael leaving this hotel shows the butler(man on the left) and Mark Lester in the background. I know as i have checked on the hotels website.
For those of you who have seen it sorry to go over the same stuff again.
Notice a third hand on the right hand sid of MIchael. Please also notice the height of the two men on the right hand side. They are too high right!!!
Anyway i have a gut instinct about these two men and know there is a clue here - if only i could find out their names. As an older Uk person i know that they are british actors but i don't remember them being in films - more like sitcom/programme.
If anyone knows who they are or if you could show this photo to a tv buff.
As i said there is a clue here as the original photo is very different. Please note that this photo was also published on MJJ Productions also.
Thanks in advance
XXX

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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:19 am

This is not Mark Lester in the background, here a picture of Mark Lester :



I don't know who's the men in this picture.....
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Re: Fake photo - help needed please

Post by See on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:26 am

I´ve seen a discussion of this pic before... those pic´s of the O2, they seem to be photoshopped...not all of them but alot...
Those men remind me of the movie 4weddings and a funeral LOL...
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Post by badloving on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:20 am

yeah...there have been a discussion about those men standing in the exact same position in 2 or 3 photos...i don't know who they are though and why they are dressed like that....seems they are going to a wedding....
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:01 am

badloving wrote:yeah...there have been a discussion about those men standing in the exact same position in 2 or 3 photos...i don't know who they are though and why they are dressed like that....seems they are going to a wedding....

That is a wedding photo behind Michael ... That is a strange picture .... It is Photoshopped ...
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Post by jenn77 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:03 pm

There is also it seems to me a 4th hand on the right hand side of michael, I could be wrong but it does seem like a forth hand. Where did this pic some from?
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Post by miss j on Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:09 pm

haha! the men in the background looks like they were posing for a group shot! not taken candidly.
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Post by jenn77 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:31 pm

I just thought of something, maybe the guys in the back are from a movie, the extra hands could be to attract our attention quickly to the photo and maybe it is as simple as a hint that this is it will be a movie. ahh.. dunno... think I've been thinking about all this too much!!
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Post by miss j on Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:36 pm

at least mike, the door frame and the wall are real. the background is fake. no depth, no perspective at all.
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Post by amy on Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:45 pm

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Post by spider monkey on Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:24 pm

i've seen 4 versions of the same shot over at mjjpictures. there's very slight movement on MJ's part as he crosses the threshold of the door, but the men remain in the very same position, all throughout the 4 pictures. before i state my opinion, please know that i am one of those who don't believe that was MJ at the O2. i agree with you that this seems photoshopped. it looks like an indoor setting, the inside of the hotel (if they're saying it's a hotel shot), with MJ supposedly going out the door. but i think he's actually stepping inside a vehicle, not going out the door of the hotel. so looks like 2 pictures made into 1.

and my take on this is that they're putting the O2 guy inside the hotel to give continuity to the story, and to say that it was actually MJ at the O2 because look, here he is coming out of the hotel. but the picture was pasted and covered the real MJ, whose hand we see behind the O2 guy. after all the hard PS work, though, i wonder why they forgot to erase that hand? was it intentional and was it a clue?

furthermore, please look at these:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/press/028.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/press/029.jpg

looks like the O2 MJ has been inserted here. the men are suddenly outside, and the O2 MJ has been squeezed in, very tightly, i would say, but from the expressions on the 2 guys' faces, seems like they don't even know MJ's there beside them. particularly in the 2nd pic, where did O2 MJ come from? that seems to be a window behind him.
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:45 pm

I really don't know who are those men, but I'm sure I saw them before....but I just can't find where damn
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Post by MJSmile4Us on Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:01 am

these male British actors may be from well-known British tv dramas like EastEnders or Coronations Street, Emmerdale, Hollyoaks? I searched in wikipedia 4 EastEnders and apparently a June 26th episode was filmed in reference to Michael Jackons's death to honour him..

26 June 2009 A scene in EastEnders was filmed on the day of transmission to include a reference to the death of Michael Jackson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:EastEnders/EastEnders_news/Archive

the guy on the left looks so familiar,,
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Post by labkomj7 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:21 am

yeah looks like a wedding in the background..why do they have rose corsage?..idk..
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:05 am

I do believe that who ever left the extra hand on the photo did leave it intentionnally, wether it is mj himself for a clue or wether it is just random people who wish to mess with us believers.
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:23 pm

My bf just pointed out to me that the left back portion of the photo looks like it was taken outside and notice that the guy has a blue tie, on the right back portion of the photo looks like it was taken indoors and the men's ties look purple.
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:25 pm

Actually, the center man in back of the photo dont seem to have a rose pined on his suit and the tie looks rather brownish. This photo is really photoshopped! Maybe none of them were actually ever in a photo together. Hmmm...I think this will be tough to figure out.
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Post by dunno_it on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:34 pm

spider monkey wrote:i've seen 4 versions of the same shot over at mjjpictures. there's very slight movement on MJ's part as he crosses the threshold of the door, but the men remain in the very same position, all throughout the 4 pictures. before i state my opinion, please know that i am one of those who don't believe that was MJ at the O2. i agree with you that this seems photoshopped. it looks like an indoor setting, the inside of the hotel (if they're saying it's a hotel shot), with MJ supposedly going out the door. but i think he's actually stepping inside a vehicle, not going out the door of the hotel. so looks like 2 pictures made into 1.

and my take on this is that they're putting the O2 guy inside the hotel to give continuity to the story, and to say that it was actually MJ at the O2 because look, here he is coming out of the hotel. but the picture was pasted and covered the real MJ, whose hand we see behind the O2 guy. after all the hard PS work, though, i wonder why they forgot to erase that hand? was it intentional and was it a clue?

furthermore, please look at these:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/press/028.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/press/029.jpg

looks like the O2 MJ has been inserted here. the men are suddenly outside, and the O2 MJ has been squeezed in, very tightly, i would say, but from the expressions on the 2 guys' faces, seems like they don't even know MJ's there beside them. particularly in the 2nd pic, where did O2 MJ come from? that seems to be a window behind him.


wow, the hand behind MJ is an amazing find! I haven't noticed that before, thanx!
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Post by Lavander on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:38 pm

Hi
All the boys, except Jermaine, wore a red rose to the memorial and there were red roses on the coffin at the memorial. On the funeral footage the camera closes in on a woman sitting with the funeral booklet, Liberian picture face up on her lap with a red rose across it. Not sure if it links to this photo or not. I'm sure the older guy on the far right was at the funeral as well, cant remember.
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:17 pm

http://www.everythingy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/SPLTXT8977/shrink_Michael%2520Jackson%25201.jpg

Check this photo out. I found this one on google images. That came up when I typed in "Nenita Malibiran" in google images cause I wanted to see who she was.
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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:51 pm

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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:57 pm

Now that seems more like the same mj to me, looking at the band on his arm the arm looks smaller and more like MJ. Where did you find that photo?
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Post by mjssoulmate on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:58 pm

Jenn,
Ok, there is Randy Phillips and Mark Lester. Is the guy on the left Alberto Alvarez?


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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:58 pm

Huh: http://imagenes.hola.com/noticias-de-actualidad/2009/06/24/michael.jpg as you can see : 06/24/2009... seems him at o2 ..but...blue jacket? O.o
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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:01 pm

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Post by mjssoulmate on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:02 pm

That's a shirt.
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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:12 pm

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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:23 pm

http://www.contactmusic.com/photos.nsf/main/michael_jackson_2553559

Check that photo out, there is an entire page of these
http://www.contactmusic.com/pictures/michael_jackson/3-25

I want to draw the attention to the one that I pointed out, why does it look like feet of a sculpture however, the hand is black. First I thought it was the impersonator Joby Rogers that was standing there (because he was at that ceremony impersonnating him) but then I saw the feet???? I am really not sure what this pic is exacly of? Anyone??
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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:23 pm

hAZZELY wrote:Huh: http://imagenes.hola.com/noticias-de-actualidad/2009/06/24/michael.jpg as you can see : 06/24/2009... seems him at o2 ..but...blue jacket? O.o

Wrong, this is not from o2.... http://img.trendencias.com/2008/06/michael%20jackson.jpg
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:27 pm

Here is what I think after seeing the 2 last photos posted by hazzely...

I believe the clue to look at in all the similar photos where that dude with a blue tie is in: We need to figure out who the dude is and then try to see how he fits in to any of this.
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:30 pm

Could someone compare the facial features of that dude with the blue tie with Michael Jackson's plz... I would be very curious and I dont know how to overlap the photos and compare spacing between eyes and all that.

Thank you !
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Post by juliet on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:35 pm

You guys are amazing!!!!
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:11 pm

hazzely, I dont understand what you are trying to say?
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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:18 pm

HIS VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by hAZZELY on Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:22 pm

jenn77 wrote:hazzely, I dont understand what you are trying to say?

That o2 guy=MJ
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Post by Human_nature on Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:59 pm

ok, so to me, seem the same place ect...at the same time...
But not the same men... why ......
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Post by Human_nature on Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:00 pm

something is so wrong when I watch those pictures..... they all seems greedy men....
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:50 pm

YES GREED! That could be why on one of the pics there is an extra hand heading into michael's pocket. We might be on to something... If it is true that AEG booked an extra 40 concerts on MJ going from 10 to 50, it could mean that the promoters of the concert had a role in this. Isn't AEG part of Sony? I did think at first that MJ was murdered and that Sony (out of greed) were directly responsible for the murder.
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Post by Human_nature on Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:56 pm

jenn77 wrote:YES GREED! That could be why on one of the pics there is an extra hand heading into michael's pocket. We might be on to something... If it is true that AEG booked an extra 40 concerts on MJ going from 10 to 50, it could mean that the promoters of the concert had a role in this. Isn't AEG part of Sony? I did think at first that MJ was murdered and that Sony (out of greed) were directly responsible for the murder.

Well, if Michael is really dead, I'm sure those people are not clean. Something is very wrong about them....and everything.

But, I'm confused now. Let just hope Michael outthought them...
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Post by jenn77 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:56 pm

Out of curiosity does any of the men in those photos ressemble tommy motolla?
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Post by Human_nature on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:02 am

jenn77 wrote:Out of curiosity does any of the men in those photos ressemble tommy motolla?

no...

This is T.Mottola :

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Post by Human_nature on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:39 am

I don't think it's him either...Howard seems older than the guy on the picture

I really tried to find someone in Sony who look like one of those men... but nothing.

Maybe we need to look at AEG.. I will try to find ....

But I'm sure I saw those men somewhere before, and i just can't remember where
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Post by Human_nature on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:48 am

Here Timothy J. Leiweke AEG President and CEO :



but...hmm I don't think....

well...I really try to find ....
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Post by jenn77 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:00 pm

On the first pic on the right hand side, could that smaller guy in the blue tie be the same as the man on the left hand side of the original photos that we are trying to analyze?
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:32 pm

All of these pictures are getting me even more confused. I still do not think that the man that gave the speech at O2 was the real Michael but I do think that Michael was definitely there somewhere!
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Post by Janet77 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:46 pm

jenn77 wrote:Out of curiosity does any of the men in those photos ressemble tommy motolla?





I would rather come to wonder why MJ (we know it was a lookalike) conference late on in the O2 arena? Had 90 minutes late, during which time it can become. Blanket why someone waving from a window? Despite the fact that he was in arms held .Od children then we have not seen MJ in essence, so we do not know what he looked like because he went the other hand, still. But again if he was killed before, so did the kids know that they have no home but the father's double, and this only me was reassuring that I think can not be dead.
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Post by hAZZELY on Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:28 pm

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