Have we had enough already???

by Banessa Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:06 pm

At the risk of sounding like the Biggest and most incensitive B*tch in the forum...I have to say that I have had it! I don't know about the rest of you but I thought this forum was about investigating the truth surrounding the strange occurances on June 25th, 2009, surrounding MJ?

I don't care to know if he was engaged, married, liked or didn't like or was involved with someone romantically. I also don't care to know if you claim to know the truth but wont share because you fear for your life! If you are that scare about having found out "The Truth" then don't tell us and stop posting about it!!! IMHO the last thing we need after 3 months of dedication and serious investigation is to have people come play with our feelings and our emotions. It's not fair. Save your self the headaches and the possibility of being attacked by other members who are mad because they feel they are just getting teased. (I do not in any way condone violence and attacks on other members) Whether it's not your intention this kind of behavior will spread all over the forum and it will affect everyone's state of mind and mood as well. So please!!! Lets just focus on what we are here for and what really matters...Michael and finding the truth...The real truth!!!

I honestly don't know, how and when things seemed to have turned bad. All I want is to be able to come to this forum and investigate and share findings and opinions with the rest of the members who are interested in the same. I don't care for the good bye threads either. Sorry but if you have made your decision about leaving...Hey more power to you! Good luck and have a happy life. But please spare us all from the emotional good byes just to realize you're back on in 5 minutes and still posting. Come...On now!

I understand not everyone will agree with me. This is my opinion only I don't expect anyone to agree with it. But I just felt I had to say something. Sorry if I offended anyone as this is not my intention in any way. I am simply expressing how I feel after 3 months of investigation, a lot of BS and not many answers! No matter what your "truth" is and what you choose to believe... I still LOVE you all! Take care and God Bless! Have we had enough already??? Herz

by infinitylady Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:11 pm

Banesa,

I feel ya. I have felt the same way as to looking at the validity of facts and just getting to the point of things.

by shirley-grace Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:14 pm

I totaly argee!

by mjthelegendlives Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:17 pm

Very well said, Banessa. Couldn't agree more with you. I'm sorry for what has happened to one of our members, but if the victim keeps posting about it, it's like stirring sh*t (no offense intended, just a local saying)...the more you stir it, the more it stinks...

Like I posted in another thread I don't think Michael orchestrated this over tears, brainstorming, hurt, and money just to blow off the cover with strangers over the net.

by ilprincipe Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:17 pm

You are more than right...
I'm also tired of attention seekers....
and this sissy-threads "oh...look so sad Sad

"
we need no distractions....
we should concentrate on the basics....

this site has turned into a madhouse....sad but true....

It can only get better....

May sound offensive....but there are so many threads which p*** me off, where I also get no excuse....

I can only appeal to you @ll:
Come to your senses.....

by White_Orchid Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:26 pm

I mostly agree, Banessa, except I will turn over every rock and stone to find 'da troot'....this forum has alot of smart contributors so hopefully a free rein will contiune_to do otherwise may only prolong the search.

study

by anotherpartofme Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:27 pm

@ banessa & ilprincipe -totally agree with you... I know why I am here...

by MJFOREVER Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:43 pm

I agree with you Banessa.

I know i have attacking or hurting other members there feelings lately, what was not my attention.
What im gonna say now is no excuse for the above message at all but please hear me out.
My school started a few weeks ago and also my internship at an zoo, so when im home im tired sometimes, and i also have a job next to that, cause of that i just need to find the ballans again, i almost have it;) Razz

And the situation at home isnt that good lately and all of this is stressing me out a little bit so im annyed a little bit to fast these days so i appologize for that.
I have a little week of vaction now and i think its good for me to not getting here for a week(if that is possible:P) and let all the stress out and come back then.
That will be after my holiday(7 days).

And no dont attack me for this and think im an attention seeker, im just taking care of my actions agains some other members.
I dont want that this place i getting the same vibe as the got at MJHD.
So i took a good look at the (wo)man in the mirror and noticed that i was one of the people who was attacking others(not on purpose) because the have a different oppinion, and by that creating a peace of THAT vibe.
So im taking my little time off not and not to copy anybody but i hope some of you can pm me to with a little update of whats going on in here.

Gonna miss you guys:P see you in a week.

MESSAGE TO ALL OF US,

TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE (WO)MAN IN THE MIRROR BEFORE WE ARE JUDGING OTHERS.
KEEP THE PEACE& solve the hoax(but dont party with out me Razz

)
MUCH LOVE
mjforever I love you

by nlb Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:02 pm

Thank you Banessa for posting this! Agree with everyting you said!!! HAHAHA so you won't be the biggest b*itch on the forum anymore, you have company...me. Have we had enough already??? Icon_razz

by ishealive Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:27 pm

Well said Banessa, this is exactly how I feel aswell.
This site is turning into MJHD. We were the originals in MJHD but were unfortunately forced out and it seems it's happening again.

by dontmakeitfactual Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:29 pm

Ditto

by Banessa Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:33 pm

mjthelegendlives wrote:Very well said, Banessa. Couldn't agree more with you. I'm sorry for what has happened to one of our members, but if the victim keeps posting about it, it's like stirring sh*t (no offense intended, just a local saying)...the more you stir it, the more it stinks...

Like I posted in another thread I don't think Michael orchestrated this over tears, brainstorming, hurt, and money just to blow off the cover with strangers over the net.

Couldn't agree with you more! Thanks Have we had enough already??? Icon_smile

@ nlb Thanks for sharing the title and burden lol

To all Thank you and yes we need to stay focus and continue to search until we find the real truth! Have we had enough already??? Icon_smile

by Banessa Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:36 pm

ishealive wrote:Well said Banessa, this is exactly how I feel aswell.
This site is turning into MJHD. We were the originals in MJHD but were unfortunately forced out and it seems it's happening again.

You're right! Sad but there is only so much we can all do to try and keep things calmed and peaceful!

by Give.In.To.Me Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:36 pm

Amen forum sista...amen!!

by ILuvUMoreMJ Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:37 pm

I agree with you...all I want to know is if our MJ is still with us and that he is okay. That's all I care about. I don't like feeling stressed out at a place that should be peaceful because we're all here for a common goal.

by Sweet1 Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:57 pm

You're right Banessa. I agree with you. Rachel posted a thread on this subject last month before she left for her new job. She and some of the MODS also have a topic in the forum for saying goodbye for those that want to leave. I guess some folk just don't get it. Keep the Faith!

by MJJ Love Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:21 pm

AMEN. Well said.
Why the heck are people bickering over internet stuff anyways. I wish I would allow someone else on a COMPUTER to upset me. WHATEVS....

And I beleive that the person who predicted this MAYHEM coming was absolutely correct and its sad to see the own people who made this very forum is responsible for some of this drama popping off. UGH
NOT CUTE at all.

by CantStopLovingU Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:22 pm

I have to agree too.

The threads about OMG!!!!!

Then it's "MOD PLEASE DELETE MY POSTS! I found the truth and now someone is trying to KILL ME!"

Then it's "I cant say it is, all I can say is ...... "

Then it's all the other forum members getting upset, wanting to know what was found out ect.

I AGREE 1000% - If you found out the TRUTH but you cant tell anyone on the forum because YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER than please just away and dont say anything at all. It's ridiculous - This happened all week with everyone begging whoever it was I cant remember the member name to please PM them with what they found out.

It does get everyone upset ....

by annieisnotokey Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:25 pm

As my dear friend Michael would say "I WON'T STOP TILL I GET ENOUGH" and I'm no where near enough.
Let the crazies be crazy.
I know what I'm here for, do you? Have we had enough already??? Icon_wink

by 4evermichael71 Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:30 pm

nlb wrote:Thank you Banessa for posting this! Agree with everyting you said!!! HAHAHA so you won't be the biggest b*itch on the forum anymore, you have company...me.

Me too

I like what you said Banessa, I totally agree with you! Have we had enough already??? Icon_cheers

by illusionist Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:50 pm

AMEN!

And while we're at, can we please stop discussing the kids? Michael wouldn't approve. Just sayin'...

by JustJamiee Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:06 pm

HAHAHAHA IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE HAD THE GUTS TO SPEAK UP!
Thanks Banessa Smile

by tyffanny Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:13 pm

I agree with you and it is very well say ..
But I must say that if we want to find the true we have to
keep an open mind (be open to share with all the folks Smile

)!!
Everything is possible with MJ and that is what we like from him.. Have we had enough already??? Icon_wink

by mjj29081958 Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:19 pm

Yeah guys!! I have nothing more to add here, I agree with everyone above me!
Let's return to be like the old mjkit! Have we had enough already??? Icon_cheers

Peace!

by juliet Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:21 pm

We all feel the same, BANESSA. I just wish people will focus and not think of themselves.

Thank you for your thoughts.

by dunno_it Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:24 pm

yep, agree too! and Banessa, please, stop apologizing for your opinions!

by dunno_it Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:41 pm

I was just thinking and trying to put myself in the "what if" position...and I guess that:
If I found the truth and
If my life was endangered
and, knowing there are so many people working as hard as you are to find the truth,
i coudn't help shearing the message with you!!!! if i was affraid someone might kill me (jeez, that scenario I highly doubt), well, i could register as a totally new person, I could send my findings to you from a different IP address, that's not complicated at all, is it? Is it difficult to tell lies on the net??? c'mon people, give me a break, if you know the truth, there's always a way to share it!! don't tell me you are affraid. that's my 2 cents.

by ILuvUMoreMJ Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:44 pm

I'm not afraid of anyone. tongue

I'd share as long as it didn't put Michael in danger. Smile

by annieisnotokey Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:50 pm

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I'm not afraid of anyone. I'd share as long as it didn't put Michael in danger.

Ditto.

by marsheliamorgan Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:56 pm

I'm not afraid of anyone. I'd share as long as it didn't put Michael in danger.

same here,my question/reasoning tho,would be that if i was in "danger"(and it wasnt dangerous for micheal in anyway)wouldnt it make actually MORE sense to have SEVERAL people KNOW what i knew,that way if something(?) did happen to me,there would be MORE people that could testify to what happened/why etc.?i mean as long as michael wasnt in anymore danger,at that,why couldnt it be pmed by a third, UNrelated person to the people on here?i dont know,i just feel like there would have to be SOMEWAY of sharing and the deal is,with most on here,i couldnt just turn my back on all the hard work,most of the members have done on here,i mean come on,would this site be as far along as it has come without them?why not let them in on it?let us make up our own minds as to weather we want to know and chance it or not for ourselves?sorry i am rambling again,didnt mean to be rude at all,just a few questions i know,they are unanswereable

by heartbroken Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:32 pm

Banessa, thank you for your comment. I am new here, but have read other forums in the past 3 mths. It gets very frustrating trying to figure out the inconsistancies and contradictions of this mystery when we are not being taken seriously. This hasnt been a fun joyride for any of us that truely loved him. Our hearts have been broken, and speaking for myself, my life has come to almost a stand still waiting for a miracle to happen. Its fun to joke occasionally, to keep from breaking down, but not to a point that a mockery is being made of our feelings. I chose this forum to stay with because of the constant searching and investigating, and the sharing. Please trust that any information I find will be shared with you all without hesitation. We need to all agree that we will dissagree at times, but we are all here for the same sweet person, and looking for the same thing. If he is alive, we want answers. If he is dead, we want justice. Thanks for listening, and I hope I havent overstepped my boundarys. Have we had enough already??? Herz

by Banessa Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:44 pm

Thank you all for the support! I really appreciate it and I am glad to see I was not the only one feeling this way!

I totally agree with what you all have said. In this investigation is important to keep an open mind but keeping an open mind doesn't mean we need to dig into anything that has nothing to do with the hoax Ie. Romantic life and @ Illusionist I agree that includes the kids unless it's directly related to their part in the hoax in which case I think they know their daddy is alive and that is their role in the hoax nothing more nothing less!

@Heartbroken agree with you 100% and I don't believe you have overstepped your boundaries at all Wink

Guys if I ever come across the truth or any news related to the hoax (and it does not put MJ in any kind of danger) I will be more than happy and willing to share with you all w/out hiding and calling out unwanted attention to myself when I don't need it or don't want it. We have worked too hard to flush it all down the drain over attention seeking people. Sorry but it's true! (lol dunno_it I forgot I should stop apologizing...Thanks)

So lets keep marching forward and keep sharing findings...Two heads are always better than one and in our case we have several brilliant minds joining...just imagine what we can accomplish if we work together as opposed to against each other! LOVE ya all and lets keep the peace! I love you

@4evermichael71 Hahaha! Welcome to our little club and thanks! Wink

by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:03 am

annieisnotokey wrote:
ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I'm not afraid of anyone. I'd share as long as it didn't put Michael in danger.

Ditto.

Same here

by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:06 am

Banessa wrote:Thank you all for the support! I really appreciate it and I am glad to see I was not the only one feeling this way!

I totally agree with what you all have said. In this investigation is important to keep an open mind but keeping an open mind doesn't mean we need to dig into anything that has nothing to do with the hoax Ie. Romantic life and @ Illusionist I agree that includes the kids unless it's directly related to their part in the hoax in which case I think they know their daddy is alive and that is their role in the hoax nothing more nothing less!

@Heartbroken agree with you 100% and I don't believe you have overstepped your boundaries at all

Guys if I ever come across the truth or any news related to the hoax (and it does not put MJ in any kind of danger) I will be more than happy and willing to share with you all w/out hiding and calling out unwanted attention to myself when I don't need it or don't want it. We have worked too hard to flush it all down the drain over attention seeking people. Sorry but it's true! (lol dunno_it I forgot I should stop apologizing...Thanks)

So lets keep marching forward and keep sharing findings...Two heads are always better than one and in our case we have several brilliant minds joining...just imagine what we can accomplish if we work together as opposed to against each other! LOVE ya all and lets keep the peace!

@4evermichael71 Hahaha! Welcome to our little club and thanks!

@Banessa-You're welcome! And thanks for welcoming me into your little club! Have we had enough already??? Icon_biggrin

by Butterfly J Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:29 am

I´m agree with Banessa.
There is little too much "dust" and off topics, sometimes is pretty hard to keep eye on the trace.

by Makea Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:31 am

4evermichael71 wrote:
nlb wrote:Thank you Banessa for posting this! Agree with everyting you said!!! HAHAHA so you won't be the biggest b*itch on the forum anymore, you have company...me.

Me too
I like what you said Banessa, I totally agree with you!

Me too!

Right said, Banessa!
I agree with you. Have we had enough already??? Icon_biggrin

by beachgirl Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:34 pm

Very well said Banessa. And I agree with you.

by kdkennedy74 Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:50 pm

My thoughts on this...

1. I think things started going downhill once we were hit with "Forestlawn" the day before the burial. We all knew he/she was a fake but after that it seems that we have been with attention seekers on a daily basis.

2. I agree with you that if you want to leave and are serious about leaving the forum then just go. I am guilty of replying to those goodbyes but now I wonder if the whole reason to create the goodbye thread in the first place isn't just to get some sympathy.

3. No matter how much we may bicker and disagree we need to remember to respect everyone's right to voice their theory. Some theories may seem ridiculous but obviously the person who posted did so for a reason and if we disagree we need to be respectful in doing so. I think each of us would want the same in return if it were our theory that was being attacked.

These are just a few of the things that I thought about when reading this. Hope that I didn't offend anyone but it is just my view of things.

by MJFOREVER Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:18 pm

OKE im back, i cant stay away from here but im feeling good:D (in 3 days i have check the page like 6 times when said i wouldnt do it for 7 days:P)
Im full off energie(a little to much, im getting tired of myself sometimes:P) bounce

Im as positive as can be cheers

KEEP THE PEACE & SOLVE THE HOAX bounce

by mjj29081958 Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:23 pm

LOOOOL! I love your attitude!!! Have we had enough already??? Icon_bounce

Welcome back! Have we had enough already??? Icon_cheers

by ishealive Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:30 pm

CantStopLovingU wrote:I have to agree too.

The threads about OMG!!!!!

Then it's "MOD PLEASE DELETE MY POSTS! I found the truth and now someone is trying to KILL ME!"

Then it's "I cant say it is, all I can say is ...... "

Then it's all the other forum members getting upset, wanting to know what was found out ect.

I AGREE 1000% - If you found out the TRUTH but you cant tell anyone on the forum because YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER than please just away and dont say anything at all. It's ridiculous - This happened all week with everyone begging whoever it was I cant remember the member name to please PM them with what they found out.

It does get everyone upset ....

I agree with you, I find these kind of posts disturbing!

by EarthAngel90 Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:41 pm

THANX U BANESSA .... I AGREE WITH YOU %100 Percent .... !!!!

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