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Post by amber on Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:38 pm

Also what i discovered on this today the king of pop fan news today had a colour pic of this event with liz so why did we only see the B&W vid?? i smell a rat here,cos if we saw the colour the too many people may spot the truth!!!!!
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Post by ilprincipe on Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:40 pm

amber wrote:Also what i discovered on this today the king of pop fan news today had a colour pic of this event with liz so why did we only see the B&W vid?? i smell a rat here,cos if we saw the colour the too many people may spot the truth!!!!!

that was my thought too...but I thought it was dark at this event...and maybe because of the light?
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by amber on Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:44 pm

ilprincipe wrote:

that was my thought too...but I thought it was dark at this event...and maybe because of the light?
good point actually,i never gave a flash off camera a thought. i wonder if there is any more pics?
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Post by mj's badest B!-tch on Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:13 pm

Can anybody post a screen shot of the masked man for those of us that can't seem to see what everyone is talking about? Thanks
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Post by infinitylady on Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:26 pm

Mj,

I had to play several times to see what they are talking about.
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn on Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:15 pm

I kinda feel like that is Michael under that scary pig mask as well. I wonder..who tipped off TMZ that MJs kids were going to be there?
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Post by April-R on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:50 pm

mj's badest B!-tch wrote:Can anybody post a screen shot of the masked man for those of us that can't seem to see what everyone is talking about? Thanks

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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by amy on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:24 am

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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by JackAnthony on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:29 am

Hi guys, long time lurker first time poster here, I really wanted to keep it that way(lol) but I just wanted to point out something you may have overlooked. I've actually been kind of psyched about it, like I've stumbled onto something . It may not be anything at all maybe just a coincidence but you guys said the pig mask is from the Saw movie?

Well last night I saw the commercial for it and in it, it said "I am still here amongst you".
I didn't see it pointed out in this thread, maybe you already knew that. The pig mask is from saw 6 right?

Anyway you guys are incredible I just wanted to say that
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:08 am

Wow that's creepy!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:16 am

JackAnthony wrote:Hi guys, long time lurker first time poster here, I really wanted to keep it that way(lol) but I just wanted to point out something you may have overlooked. I've actually been kind of psyched about it, like I've stumbled onto something . It may not be anything at all maybe just a coincidence but you guys said the pig mask is from the Saw movie?

Well last night I saw the commercial for it and in it, it said "I am still here amongst you".
I didn't see it pointed out in this thread, maybe you already knew that. The pig mask is from saw 6 right?

Anyway you guys are incredible I just wanted to say that

Welcome JackAnthony. Smile That is a great find! Glad you broke your silent lurking. Wink
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by speechlessornot on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:26 am

It MUST be a clue there. It is impossible for such a strange masked man be around children, Liz Taylor and the other family members. For me that's almost unimaginable. So, that masked guy is a well known member of the group and all of them enjoyed his presence there. And looking at his walk, figure, how he moves his hands, his back position and-of course- all reactions around him...i am almost sure he was Michael Jackson there. I say 'almost' because no one can be 100% sure of anything in this complicated arrangement.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:46 am

I brightened it up a bit in hopes that someone could show me the mask..
I know which person it is you're talking about, and I can tell there is something on their face,
but how do you see the Saw mask?


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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:48 am

You guys, check out TMZ's "misprint"!! http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/

It was a jam packed day on TMZ Live, where Harvey and Mike fielded questions on the Heene family, Hoff's new reality show, MJ and his kids' trip to Horror Night with Liz Taylor.

Shocked Surprised


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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:49 am

OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH!!!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:50 am

In case they edit it!

TMZ Live: MJ, Anna & Balloon Boy Bonanza
Posted Oct 19th 2009 4:30PM by TMZ Staff
It was a jam packed day on TMZ Live, where Harvey and Mike fielded questions on the Heene family, Hoff's new reality show, MJ and his kids' trip to Horror Night with Liz Taylor.

Plus -- casting the Balloon Boy movie, a TMZ swine flu update and a cameo by Dog & Beth Chapman!


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/#ixzz0USbC6e4v
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:10 am

So TMZ are saying that the Masked Man is MJ? ( with the article above.)
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:11 am

Question..
I may have missed this, but can someone explain what TMZ's connection would be with all of this? Why would they know if he was alive?
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:15 am

It's hard to say. They broke MJ's "death" way before any of the major networks. Some members think they are in on the hoax...but that is hard for me to swallow. Personally, I think they are being fed info from the Jackson family. This could have just been a typo, but that's one heck of a typo. Laughing Maybe someone there believes too, or knows more than we do.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:17 am

lonelynation wrote:In case they edit it!

TMZ Live: MJ, Anna & Balloon Boy Bonanza
Posted Oct 19th 2009 4:30PM by TMZ Staff
It was a jam packed day on TMZ Live, where Harvey and Mike fielded questions on the Heene family, Hoff's new reality show, MJ and his kids' trip to Horror Night with Liz Taylor.

Plus -- casting the Balloon Boy movie, a TMZ swine flu update and a cameo by Dog & Beth Chapman!


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/#ixzz0USbC6e4v

LOL You know it's funny; I had saw that earlier when I saw the TMZ video but it hadn't REGISTERED until you guys brought it uppp LOLZ
Maybe in my sub-conscious lol maybe XD
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Grace on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:32 am

Guys, you know what, since this vid came out I am in the mood to party.

Not because I don't question the thing - important questions are:

  • why is it so blurry except for when Paris and Elisabeth get out of the studio
    (I'd say for hiding reasons)
  • why is it black and white (same answer)
NOW come the tough ones:
why any hiding ? Possible answers:

  • to not show evidence to the world but only a few that would recognize?
  • to cheat like with the RTL video?
Well for the RTL video we found out that there were some very strange inconsistencies between the "jump-ou" video and the "we-made-it" claim video. I am not speaking about the police siren that could have been added to the jump-out video from movies.
I am speaking about the fact that RTL claimed to have done it in a German hotel (M like Mercure? I didn't identify the hotel chain but I know the M from business trips). In German hotels you ALWAYS have an emergency exit green light on top of doors, especially in parking spots and garages. This light was missing and you did not see any hole in the wall either from demontage. I cannot believe any hotel would agree for a 1 minute shot to let a TV crew in to dismantle their (by law) required emergency exit lamp, fill the hole of the electricity connection and later-on put everything back in place and order.
So in my opinion the "jump-out" video was real and made by MJ staff on purpose to calm down our worries and to express that he escaped.
The "claim" video was fake and released either by MJ's counterparts or by media worrying about their overall reputation in the MJ case in the public eye.

So coming back to the "saw mask" video.
The argue could go: "anybody could hide behind a mask". Really? I don't think so.
Masks were NOT allowed at that event as was announced publicly on the internet site.
And security for sure would get anybody's mask off as there were a lot of Hollywood people around not just E.T.
So there is one and only person wearing a mask who is allowed to do so when all others are not. In a movie creation studio. Hidden. Who did it always?
But - as we learned at the memorial already - this person cannot hide his moves - and this is what I watched most and enjoyed so much. There is nobody in this world who could imitate Michael in all his gestures. Never. The impersonators and doubles are really having a hard time to figure some of his movements out. They don't get all though. LOL

So this is Michael and I do not have any doubt about him.
Now why a "saw" mask ? This for always clears up the gossip that Michael turned to Islam.
NEVER would a muslim touch a pig or even prevent to be one. This an absolute NO-NO.
Muslims don't even eat meat that had been only near pig meat. Any contact / closeness is forbidden and followed.
So we can wipe that rumours out for always.
For all other potential clues of the saw mask in connection with a movie or Halloween connected I cannot say anything since I am not familiar with the movie nor with what you guys are doing in the US on Halloween.

In any case I always thought Halloween would be perfect for him to show up - be it for the mascerade or for the rise from the dead with a Thriller II movie (TII or This Is It).
And I am sure we will not only search for our jaws on the floor but many people will turn paler than pale for what he will show then.

I just hope that Mr. Bratton will not die of heart attack in the last days of his engagement in L.A. because he's 3 days late and might be confronted with some unpleasant unexpected.

Go Michael, you rock!
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Post by Stranger In Chi-town on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:40 am

Grace wrote:Guys, you know what, since this vid came out I am in the mood to party.

Not because I don't question the thing - important questions are:

  • why is it so blurry except for when Paris and Elisabeth get out of the studio
    (I'd say for hiding reasons)
  • why is it black and white (same answer)
NOW come the tough ones:
why any hiding ? Possible answers:

  • to not show evidence to the world but only a few that would recognize?
  • to cheat like with the RTL video?
Well for the RTL video we found out that there were some very strange inconsistencies between the "jump-ou" video and the "we-made-it" claim video. I am not speaking about the police siren that could have been added to the jump-out video from movies.
I am speaking about the fact that RTL claimed to have done it in a German hotel (M like Mercure? I didn't identify the hotel chain but I know the M from business trips). In German hotels you ALWAYS have an emergency exit green light on top of doors, especially in parking spots and garages. This light was missing and you did not see any hole in the wall either from demontage. I cannot believe any hotel would agree for a 1 minute shot to let a TV crew in to dismantle their (by law) required emergency exit lamp, fill the hole of the electricity connection and later-on put everything back in place and order.
So in my opinion the "jump-out" video was real and made by MJ staff on purpose to calm down our worries and to express that he escaped.
The "claim" video was fake and released either by MJ's counterparts or by media worrying about their overall reputation in the MJ case in the public eye.

So coming back to the "saw mask" video.
The argue could go: "anybody could hide behind a mask". Really? I don't think so.
Masks were NOT allowed at that event as was announced publicly on the internet site.
And security for sure would get anybody's mask off as there were a lot of Hollywood people around not just E.T.
So there is one and only person wearing a mask who is allowed to do so when all others are not. In a movie creation studio. Hidden. Who did it always?
But - as we learned at the memorial already - this person cannot hide his moves - and this is what I watched most and enjoyed so much. There is nobody in this world who could imitate Michael in all his gestures. Never. The impersonators and doubles are really having a hard time to figure some of his movements out. They don't get all though. LOL

So this is Michael and I do not have any doubt about him.
Now why a "saw" mask ? This for always clears up the gossip that Michael turned to Islam.
NEVER would a muslim touch a pig or even prevent to be one. This an absolute NO-NO.
Muslims don't even eat meat that had been only near pig meat. Any contact / closeness is forbidden and followed.
So we can wipe that rumours out for always.
For all other potential clues of the saw mask in connection with a movie or Halloween connected I cannot say anything since I am not familiar with the movie nor with what you guys are doing in the US on Halloween.

In any case I always thought Halloween would be perfect for him to show up - be it for the mascerade or for the rise from the dead with a Thriller II movie (TII or This Is It).
And I am sure we will not only search for our jaws on the floor but many people will turn paler than pale for what he will show then.

I just hope that Mr. Bratton will not die of heart attack in the last days of his engagement in L.A. because he's 3 days late and might be confronted with some unpleasant unexpected.

Go Michael, you rock!

Hi Grace how are u? Very Happy
WOOT, MJ!
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:17 am

MJ is a GENIUS! There is no one like him! I believe that is him in the TMZ video. Saw VI comes out this Friday so it is the costume of the moment for this Halloween. I think the thoughts about why the video is in b&w are valid as well as the quote from Saw. I've seen them all (not that I'm a fan of them LOL my daughter is Smile ) Thank you JackAnthony for pointing out the quote "I am still here amongst you" from the movie. To me it all does tie together..jmo tho Smile
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:21 am

I totally agree 4evermichael71!
SHOW YOURSELF MICHAEL <3
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:05 am

lonelynation wrote:I totally agree 4evermichael71!
SHOW YOURSELF MICHAEL <3

Thank you Very Happy
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:38 am

lonelynation wrote:In case they edit it!

TMZ Live: MJ, Anna & Balloon Boy Bonanza
Posted Oct 19th 2009 4:30PM by TMZ Staff
It was a jam packed day on TMZ Live, where Harvey and Mike fielded questions on the Heene family, Hoff's new reality show, MJ and his kids' trip to Horror Night with Liz Taylor.

Plus -- casting the Balloon Boy movie, a TMZ swine flu update and a cameo by Dog & Beth Chapman!


Read more: [url=http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/#ixzz0USbC6e4v
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/#ixzz0USbC6e4v[/quote[/url]]



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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by spider monkey on Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:48 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:It's hard to say. They broke MJ's "death" way before any of the major networks. Some members think they are in on the hoax...but that is hard for me to swallow. Personally, I think they are being fed info from the Jackson family. This could have just been a typo, but that's one heck of a typo. Maybe someone there believes too, or knows more than we do.

and to this day, they haven't corrected their RIP page where Farrah
Fawcett was included, but not Michael. i'm sure their attention has
been called, but i just checked - it was updated to include Stephen
Gately, but still no MJ... so maybe the "misprint" is not a misprint
after all?

thanks, JackAnthony and ILuvUMoreMJ, for your finds. make me feel better...
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Post by mjthelegendlives on Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:39 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:It's hard to say. They broke MJ's "death" way before any of the major networks. Some members think they are in on the hoax...but that is hard for me to swallow. Personally, I think they are being fed info from the Jackson family. This could have just been a typo, but that's one heck of a typo. Maybe someone there believes too, or knows more than we do.

One too many errors, girl, lol....Remember when they missed to include MJ in the list of dead celebrities of 2009?

Edit** Spidermonkey beat me to it, hehe. I'm glad you checked the update btw, thanks.
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Post by miss j on Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:26 am

lonelynation wrote:In case they edit it!

TMZ Live: MJ, Anna & Balloon Boy Bonanza
Posted Oct 19th 2009 4:30PM by TMZ Staff
It was a jam packed day on TMZ Live, where Harvey and Mike fielded questions on the Heene family, Hoff's new reality show, MJ and his kids' trip to Horror Night with Liz Taylor.

Plus -- casting the Balloon Boy movie, a TMZ swine flu update and a cameo by Dog & Beth Chapman!


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/#ixzz0USbC6e4v

"ops! i did it again!"
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Post by yaya on Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:53 am

i am confused!! where is this picture of him in disguise??
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by mj's badest B!-tch on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:13 pm

April-R wrote:
mj's badest B!-tch wrote:Can anybody post a screen shot of the masked man for those of us that can't seem to see what everyone is talking about? Thanks


Thank you!!!!
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:35 pm

In case this helps at all.. I brightened it a little



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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by kdkennedy74 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:38 pm

I know this is far-fetched and it has been determined that it is a mask but once it was lightened it kind of reminds me of the character in the video Ghost...the one that was larger than life and took over the mayor's body before he started to dance.
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Post by Human_nature on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:41 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:I know this is far-fetched and it has been determined that it is a mask but once it was lightened it kind of reminds me of the character in the video Ghost...the one that was larger than life and took over the mayor's body before he started to dance.

I thought about that too...hehe
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by JustJamiee on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:12 pm

I'M CONFUSED..
Are we looking at Person 1 OR Person 2


And doesn't person 2 sort of remind you of
that Pig head from the "Saw" movies?
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:13 pm

Person 2.
And I can't tell. I mean it's obvious there is something on the person's face, but I really can't tell what. I've heard the Saw mask a few times though.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by DreamsComeTrue on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:14 pm

JustJamiee wrote:I'M CONFUSED..
Are we looking at Person 1 OR Person 2


And doesn't person 2 sort of remind you of
that Pig head from the "Saw" movies?

It is from SAW!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Human_nature on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:18 pm

Person 1 , he's always with Elizabeth Wink It's the man who take care of her Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by DreamsComeTrue on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:20 pm

miss j wrote:
lonelynation wrote:In case they edit it!

TMZ Live: MJ, Anna & Balloon Boy Bonanza
Posted Oct 19th 2009 4:30PM by TMZ Staff
It was a jam packed day on TMZ Live, where Harvey and Mike fielded questions on the Heene family, Hoff's new reality show, MJ and his kids' trip to Horror Night with Liz Taylor.

Plus -- casting the Balloon Boy movie, a TMZ swine flu update and a cameo by Dog & Beth Chapman!


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/19/tmz-live-mj-anna-and-balloon-boy-bonanza/#ixzz0USbC6e4v

"ops! i did it again!"

Oh my Gosh...You really should be blind or insane if you don't believe he's alive! (sorry just a joke)
But seriously...can they be more obvious?
SHAMONE! U GOTTA LOVE DA MAN!
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Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:20 pm

I was just thinking about that picture again..
and can we tell height?
To me it seems like this person is quite tall..and MJ wasn't that tall
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:26 pm

In contrast to Paris he looks to me to be the right height but I can't be 100%. I am just judging by the people around him.
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Post by infinitylady on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:44 pm

That is one UG-ly mask and disgusting looking.
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Post by d.o. on Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:08 pm

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Post by juliet on Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:44 pm

Thanks guys for the clearer view of the mask man
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by miss j on Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:55 pm

lonelynation wrote:I was just thinking about that picture again..
and can we tell height?
To me it seems like this person is quite tall..and MJ wasn't that tall

maybe he wore shoes with heels? but that person walks like mj...
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:37 pm

d.o.

At first I was bumed out thinking it wasn't MJ..
but what better way for him to be able to hang out with his kids in public!
He kept walking with them and this way, with his face covered, no one would suspect!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by d.o. on Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:39 am

but the other pics. He is nowhere near them. And he is only with them on that attraction, where he is scaring other guests. Only if he gotten a job there or smth lol...
idk, i really believed it was him, cause i had really strong reasons to believe. but now i don't know...
Well either way i know he's alive Smile so no biggie...
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Post by d.o. on Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:41 am

hmm Maybe there are other masks, less obvious ones...i think there should be a mask. there must be a mask...
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by speechlessornot on Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:49 am

In this vid you can see two additional images...at the beginning...what do you think? It looks like Michaels figure, doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_……….piGR-NiYNA
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:04 am

It does look like his figure!! And it does sound like that girl shouts "Michael". Regardless of what TMZ says, I just don't think any park employees would be allowed to get that close, and they definitely wouldn't be allowed to touch them. I'm still really excited about this video! Smile
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