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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:49 pm

Have you seen it? Someone on MJHD compared MJ's hand with the hand of the guy in this video. The members there are happy they are pretty convinced it's MJ. What do you think? Here's the link, just scroll down the page and see the pics comparison:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/michael-jackson-in-disguise/page-5/

(Sorry I still don't know how to post a picture here.)
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by mjj29081958 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:07 pm

I did it for you, hope you don't mind! (Credits MJHD)
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:09 pm

mjj29081958 wrote:I did it for you, hope you don't mind! (Credits MJHD)
Thank you!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by kdkennedy74 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:14 pm

Well now I am convinced!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ishealive on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:17 pm

I'd love to think it is MJ and I really hope it is but every other time has been such a let down. Please prove me wrong this time Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:31 pm

I want to believe (but at the same time I'm afraid to believe too much)! But it's a great find and I think it can be true.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ishealive on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:47 pm

@lou if this isn't MJ then i'd pay good money to see who it was that dressed up like that and also Liz is after a heart operation what is she doing around all this noise and chaos and around someone in that mask, i'm easily scared anyway but this would take 10 years off my lifetime!!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:02 pm

ishealive wrote:@lou if this isn't MJ then i'd pay good money to see who it was that dressed up like that and also Liz is after a heart operation what is she doing around all this noise and chaos and around someone in that mask, i'm easily scared anyway but this would take 10 years off my lifetime!!
You are right!!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Rach on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:10 pm

I'm sorry but I can't see what everyone is getting so excited about

I see a person in a mask, and Paris glancing in their direction but that's it. I don't think the hand pictures above indicate anything, because that TMZ sign is in the way. That could be anyone IMO. We can't agree who O2 man is and we saw his face!

I do however agree with ishealive that it is a strange atmosphere for Liz to be in after having heart surgery.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by annieisnotokey on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:12 pm

Rach wrote:I do however agree with ishealive that it is a strange atmosphere for Liz to be in after having heart surgery.

Maybe Liz is MJ in disguise!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ishealive on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:13 pm

Lol annie nothing would surprise me when it comes to MJ - maybe Liz is wearing the mask lol
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by fa on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:27 pm

Hi!
Can´t you get a pic of this guy hands without the TMZ logo?
It looks like his hands, but it´s not really clear for me because of the logomark.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by heisalive on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:53 pm

I would have to see a clearer picture. I hope it is true though Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by itsmagic on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:55 pm

shirley-grace wrote:Read the Warning message on the bottom of the page and watch the clip
http://www.halloweenhorrornights.com/orlando/eventinfo.html

Yeah, after seeing that, I'd say there's no logical reason to believe this is Michael. And GREAT pick-up, shirley-grace, even though it's disappointing. Wink

For those who didn't check it out, the link she posted goes to Universal's Halloween Horror Nights page, where there is a warning (scroll down for it) that says "No masks or costumes allowed." This is surely because they have staff wandering about, in costume.

A video clip on the same page shows a man dressed in a "Saw" costume, scaring people. Had TMZ's video been longer, I'm sure we would have seen Saw Guy creeping around other people, besides Liz and the kids.

So, for this to have been MJ, since costumes are not allowed, he would have had to bring Universal in on the hoax, too. And I don't see that happening, lol. Or, he could have just blatently broken a rule that would surely bring lots of unwanted attention, while trying to sneak around unnoticed in a huge crowd.
Yeah. Doesn't seem likely, does it?

I do agree, though, that it's hilarious that the media had Liz supposedly at death's door, not long ago, and now here she is, getting scares at the premiere Halloween scare-the-crap-out-of-you attraction.
Liz said on her Twitter that the media exaggerated her condition, and that she felt fine, years younger, etc. Looks like she just got proven right, which may have been one reason she was happy to go do something like this - to p**s on the media's reports.

On the bright side....I'm sure Michael loved seeing them all out, together.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by fa on Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:21 pm

ohhhh. Disapointed Sad
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by bibi on Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:26 pm

[quote="shirley-grace"]Read the Warning message on the bottom of the page and watch the clip
http://www.halloweenhorrornights.com/orlando/eventinfo.html[/quote]
lol..im sorta late...but isnt that for universal studios in orlando, florida??

so dont be dissapointed...liz and the kids went to the one in los angeles,CA...and the rules appear to be for orlando..
plus, even if that is the rule, the theme me of the whole attraction has someting to do with horror movies, so the masked guy could be an actor...could be mj...still possible...but i doubt he would attend such a big event...with so many people...too mch risking..

sooo..im officialy confused!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by LovelyLurker on Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:48 pm

No one has mentioned this yet. Glittr and Samantha were told (apparently) to release thier info on the 16 of October.

They also left a clue when they left MJHD It was

Remember the time :50. The TMZ clip is :50 seconds long.

Food for thought
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Sweet1 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:48 pm

lou wrote:
ishealive wrote:@lou if this isn't MJ then i'd pay good money to see who it was that dressed up like that and also Liz is after a heart operation what is she doing around all this noise and chaos and around someone in that mask, i'm easily scared anyway but this would take 10 years off my lifetime!!
You are right!!

I don't know but I agree that Liz shouldn't been in that type of environment after getting out the hospital. Then again! Liz would do anything for MJ. But if MJ was disguised as Liz it makes sense because MJ loved the attention from fans so perhaps he wanted to be back out in the midst of that environment to get a rush. Just my opinion. Keep the Faith!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by itsmagic on Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:57 pm

Same "no costumes" rule applies, for both locations, apparently.

http://www.halloweenhorrornights.com/
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Pammy on Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:22 pm

LovelyLurker wrote:No one has mentioned this yet. Glittr and Samantha were told (apparently) to release thier info on the 16 of October.

They also left a clue when they left MJHD It was

Remember the time :50. The TMZ clip is :50 seconds long.

Food for thought

Yes thanks for the reminder! Could be possible.

They said also we should need it in the future? so u think that could be it?
a 0:50 clip from TMZ , because Brick Man as a sign that he is alive?
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by SherLynn224 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:28 pm

I believe it was Michael. I have read that Halloween was his favorite holiday. Grace acted like she had to be in a position so she could see all their reactions when he snuck up on Paris. I feel its true too that security would not take a chance on anybody just coming that close to the kids or Liz unless they knew it was gonna happen and who it was. Michael be well and Love You More!!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Human_nature on Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:29 pm

Pammy wrote:
LovelyLurker wrote:No one has mentioned this yet. Glittr and Samantha were told (apparently) to release thier info on the 16 of October.

They also left a clue when they left MJHD It was

Remember the time :50. The TMZ clip is :50 seconds long.

Food for thought

Yes thanks for the reminder! Could be possible.

They said also we should need it in the future? so u think that could be it?
a 0:50 clip from TMZ , because Brick Man as a sign that he is alive?

I don't think it's related. It's just my opinion as well.

I don't think this :50 mean something or really exist.

and again, this is my personal opinion ok Smile

peace Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:50 pm

4evermichael71 wrote:
Makea wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:
ishealive wrote:Is that mask freaking anyone else out???

Yepp

I must say it looks really like La Toya, and YES it freaks me out!

That freaks me out and so does this

Ehh ! La Toya's face always freak me out!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:29 am

I must say something here. I am classified as a new member but I have lurked everyday since day one. Hence the name. I get very tired reading all the threads here and on the other site but I do read them all.

I get tired of people and I get tired of attitudes. There are so many things here and there that are good good clues and good good ideas but every single time they seem to get shot down by someone.

Inevitably they turn into some kind of mudsling, name bashing, attention seeking forums that lose the original ideas of what the whole thing is about. Is Mr Jackson here or is he not?? This site is supposed to about yes he is.


People seem to read, react then dismiss and go on to some other trivial tidbit.

This video struck me as a huge piece of information given what had gone on yesterday with Glittr and Samantha

You have not learned to put it all together. There are pieces of information all over the place but they are not being put together.

Dina and her info
The informer and his info
JCC and his info
THEREALTRUTH and his info
Larry King and his info
Glittr and Samantha and thier info
*mj* and his info

You all need to start putting this all together and see that it all fits. Can you not see this???

You need to stop with the petty infighting and the doubts and the trying to oneup each other and see the forest for the trees.

You need to stop using the sites as a chat room/ social get together/ I know more than you and I love Gold pants / Golden chocolate forum,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and get serious.

I am sorry and I know I will offend but there seems to be very few people who are serious here and this is disappointing.

As far as Glittr/ Brittani ( I think) be careful as there are people who prey on young women on the internet.

I ask that you all are not so quick to dismiss things that may be legitimate and concentrate on the little things that may be,
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by speechlessornot on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:52 am

This id a very interesting post about this thread. i hope the author will excuse me. But I'd really like to be discussed more.
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=ef9b3196-21c1-45e3-8123-f0…..fae1b7521f
My suggestion – make the video as large screen as you can and then try to sit a little farther away from your monitor to see the video – it makes it a little clearer, at least on my monitor! Also, just try to go through it without the sound, just pausing it continuously, and you will see a lot more things.
Right at the beginning around :04 the lighting gets a little better just for a second. There is a kid in a MICHAEL JACKSON werewolf shirt, and right behind him is Prince in a red shirt. At :06 the blonde woman leaning down to Liz and the bald man with glasses were sitting with Liz at the funeral. At :08 Prince is right in the middle of the picture, above Paris' white hat. At :20-:21 the Masked Man puts his arms around a girl (I think she is the one wearing the black tshirt in the picture of all of them on the ride) and she screams. Then you can see the Masked Man whisper something in her ear. At :24 you see the other bald guy without glasses, who sat next to the blond woman and Liz at the funeral. At :27 you see a guy who looks like another guy sitting behind the bald guy without glasses at the funeral. From :29 to :33 there is a guy who looks like Miko Brando walking in front of Masked Man.
Here is the link for the funeral video where you can see blonde woman to the left of Liz, bald guy no glasses next to her, guy with goatee behind him to the left (from :27 in Mask video) and bald guy with glasses sitting behind Liz (with hands on her wheelchair). Remember, for you MJ=DaveDave believers, DaveDave comes and sits next to Liz (his chair will be in the aisle) at the funeral before it starts.
At 1:34 you can see them all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJIqyaJhZx0&featu…..re=related
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:57 am

Now that is what I am talking about. Thank you speechlessornot. This is true investigating and very well done I must say.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:08 am

speechlessornot wrote:This id a very interesting post about this thread. i hope the author will excuse me. But I'd really like to be discussed more.
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=ef9b3196-21c1-45e3-8123-f0…..fae1b7521f
My suggestion – make the video as large screen as you can and then try to sit a little farther away from your monitor to see the video – it makes it a little clearer, at least on my monitor! Also, just try to go through it without the sound, just pausing it continuously, and you will see a lot more things.
Right at the beginning around :04 the lighting gets a little better just for a second. There is a kid in a MICHAEL JACKSON werewolf shirt, and right behind him is Prince in a red shirt. At :06 the blonde woman leaning down to Liz and the bald man with glasses were sitting with Liz at the funeral. At :08 Prince is right in the middle of the picture, above Paris' white hat. At :20-:21 the Masked Man puts his arms around a girl (I think she is the one wearing the black tshirt in the picture of all of them on the ride) and she screams. Then you can see the Masked Man whisper something in her ear. At :24 you see the other bald guy without glasses, who sat next to the blond woman and Liz at the funeral. At :27 you see a guy who looks like another guy sitting behind the bald guy without glasses at the funeral. From :29 to :33 there is a guy who looks like Miko Brando walking in front of Masked Man.
Here is the link for the funeral video where you can see blonde woman to the left of Liz, bald guy no glasses next to her, guy with goatee behind him to the left (from :27 in Mask video) and bald guy with glasses sitting behind Liz (with hands on her wheelchair). Remember, for you MJ=DaveDave believers, DaveDave comes and sits next to Liz (his chair will be in the aisle) at the funeral before it starts.
At 1:34 you can see them all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJIqyaJhZx0&featu…..re=related
Great spot, speechlessornot! I can see a boy in Michael Jackson T-shirt and I could also see prince. But I couldn't see the Masked Man having his arm around a girl. Maybe I would need apair of specs then.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by April-R on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:14 am

Since Elizabeth Taylor is a very close person to Michael and his children are visiting her I always thought Michael also is somewhere around them - especially after Mrs.Taylors hospitalization.

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Good job Smile
The bald guys seem to be Elizabeth's bodyguards?

I absolutely want to believe the masked man to be Michael.
Does someone see the masked man following the children after leaving Liz?
And why is he making this hand-signs or to whom? Saying "Everythings okay here, pic up Liz and we're making another round?" - or what's that about?
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:21 am

@speechlessornot,
I rewatched it again and I do see the Masked Man going near to a girl, and that girl scream. I think she scream because of the freaky mask.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by miss j on Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:21 am

but he walks like him. i think.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:57 am

I think this is a very good find! Smile I've been to a few of the Halloween nights at theme parks over the years in both CA and FL, and it is true that you are not allowed to wear a mask or costume, BUT I am also almost sure that the employees who run around trying to scare people are not allowed to touch the patrons. They will sometimes jump out at you or follow you, but never have I seen a "ghoul" put their hands on someone. If that is what happened in this video, then I think it is a good possibility that this is MJ and he was let inside because he was with Liz Taylor and the famous entourage. He could have pretended he was one of the Jackson brothers who didn't want paparazzi to see him or something. Seems like a really risky move, but I'm hopeful! Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by fa on Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:45 am

Well, he allways said that he liked to live dangerouslly.
Maybe for him it was dangerous so that he tried to do.
Sorry aobut my English, I´m braziliam and I my native lenguage is Portuguese . Embarassed
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:55 am

fa wrote:Well, he allways said that he liked to live dangerouslly.
Maybe for him it was dangerous so that he tried to do.
Sorry aobut my English, I´m braziliam and I my native lenguage is Portuguese . Embarassed
Olá fa, somos duas então! Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:08 am

LovelyLurker wrote:
I ask that you all are not so quick to dismiss things that may be legitimate and concentrate on the little things that may be,
It's a very good point. I think it's the only way we have to at least get closer to the truth.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Loree on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:48 am

If it's him, it's a really good mask to wear
like in the movie
so no one knows who is the one wearing the mask
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by fa on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:07 am

Oi Lou!
Que bom ver mais uma da Terra do Samba!
Sou do Rio de Janeiro e VC?

I agree. It´s all a puzzle and we have to joint the clues. Maybe some clues are fake, but we have to observe all of them.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by yitsy on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:08 am

I have watched this damn video over and over again, and I just don't "SEE" it.
Lovelylurker, I get what you saying. But, there always has to be room for speculation/difference of opinions. After all most the posts here are from people asking "what do you think?"
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by badloving on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:36 am

who could be walking around mj's kids with a mask on? it doesn't seem to be a kid...
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by heehee on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:38 am

LovelyLurker wrote:Now that is what I am talking about. Thank you speechlessornot. This is true investigating and very well done I must say.

I totally think that it's possible that's MJ. Also can't help but see the relation to the :50 clue. And...LovelyLurker...that's exactly what MJ said in the grocery store when he saw the picture of Liz on the cover of that mag!
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by suzzie on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:45 am

It's Him. The way he walks and the gestures plus the look from paris, I really think it's him.
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Post by lou on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:11 am

fa wrote:Oi Lou!
Que bom ver mais uma da Terra do Samba!
Sou do Rio de Janeiro e VC?

I agree. It´s all a puzzle and we have to joint the clues. Maybe some clues are fake, but we have to observe all of them.
RJ too! Smile
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by city.gal1 on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:21 am

I've looked at the video again and I am beginning to think more and more that it is him. The way he stoops down, his lankiness, and when he speaks to Paris there is a huge smile on her face.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by d.o. on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:55 am

I think the rule about no mask, could be a little bent for children of michael jackson and liz taylor who just had heart surgery.
So i think its possible that they let them go with someone wearing a mask.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by lou on Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:28 am

I've watched the video again and the way that "Masked Man" walks and the hand waving... can well be him...
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by Styloprincess on Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:53 am

It could be him...but I'm still sceptical about that video. It's nice to see Liz having a good time with his kids though.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by 4evermichael71 on Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:35 pm

I too have watched it again and again, pausing it and looking closely and I really believe it is him Smile The look on Paris's face is priceless Very Happy
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by amber on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:43 pm

I think its him,that walk,the thumbs up [i like that] and that man who appears to jump behind him and walks behimd him as tho he's a bodyguard.... i think this was a good find
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:42 pm


Listening to TMZ live and Harvey and Mike agree with us, it seems. They can´t understand either what Elizabeth was doing there right after a heart surgery.
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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by mjgirl86 on Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:02 pm

If that is him, then how many people are in on this, then?

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Re: mj out and about in disguise

Post by infinitylady on Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:21 pm

Oh, ok. I can see the guy now.
Hmmm, strange.
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