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Post by See on Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:45 pm

But I was thinking (I know it's a bad habit of mine LOL)

But why go throu so much trouble to make the doubles look like Michael just for rehersels???
And why film the doubles??? I mean I rather see 15 min. of the real Michael then 2 hours of fakes!!! Why film the reharsels in HD???

So why the 100 hours for a making off, if Michael did not "die" he would have turned the concerts in to DVD with a few minutes of reharsels to show the making of... But why 100 hours and why the doubles.... This was about TII all along!!!


And why is there 100 hours of film, when they said he did not come to rehalrels that often...
I mean that what was said first and when the movie idea came up, that was not mentioned anymore....
First they want to proof Michael was sick with the old autopsy report, how he did not come to the reharsels and such.
And now with the upcoming movie, there was nothing wrong with him in a new autopsy report! Were they afraid that the public would not believe it was Michael there dancing, it that why all of a sudden they changed the sorty????
So they first gave us a reason on his death, and now they are giving us a reason why he was oke during reharsels (with these new reports)...
I donno anymore... But the first autopsy report was fake IMO, and the second came from, who??

It seems like they don't know with what plan they have to go???
Two diffrent stories? There are two different sources...

What do you guys think, couldn't sleep over this LOL I really like to know what u guys think about this...???
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Re: What do you think???

Post by Butterfly J on Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:27 am

I asked another day in some thred the same question - why use doubles for rehearsal? Somebody said the in the time Michael can relax and go shopping... sounds stupid. I think he couldn´t be so silly and think we don´t see the difference... unless...there are no doubles? Remeber dr Klein said that he was fixing (modify? don´t know the right word, sorry)Michaels face for the o2 concerts. We can´t figure it out before we see the movie.

Worst version is that he really died and they used doubles to finish the film and make big money
Better theory - Michael didn´t want to make a movie of rehearsals and they finished it with out him using doubles - that would mean that he really didn´t had a control over it and makes sense what Joe Jackson told to the tabloids.

Sorry, my english is bad, I really hope you understand what I try to say, ćoze I really wanna help to figure this mess out
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Re: What do you think???

Post by Jubilee on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:28 am

I think when the press say he didn't turn up to rehearsals it's building up the rouse to believe that he is ill thus making the death more believable... not that the press know this but any bad news is good news for them.

In my opinion it was our Michael who was in the rehearsals, as he has arranged this movie I don't think he'd want anyone else to star in the film but him.

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Re: What do you think???

Post by Christiana on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:07 pm

I never heard that MJ missed "most" rehearsals. I heard he had missed some. And if rehearsals were about 8 hours a day, which I read just earlier this morning, then it would only take a couple of weeks worth of rehearsals to shoot 100 hours of film. And it's normal to shoot more hours than you actually need, because it's going to be edited anyway. The more shots you have, the more options you have to get the best shots. MJ did the same with his albums; he said himself that he recorded over 100 songs for every album he recorded. Obviously, they didn't all go on the albums. He could pick and choose which ones to include.

I believe it was MJ at the rehearsals. Even if there were "doubles," I don't think they were anything more than stand-ins for when MJ was either not there, and/or for when he may have been sitting back to watch the show so that he could see how everything was coming together visually. Just my opinion.
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:13 pm

Jubilee wrote:I think when the press say he didn't turn up to rehearsals it's building up the rouse to believe that he is ill thus making the death more believable... not that the press know this but any bad news is good news for them.

In my opinion it was our Michael who was in the rehearsals, as he has arranged this movie I don't think he'd want anyone else to star in the film but him.

xxxx

Yeah I think so too. I think they said that he began turning up more frequenlty before he "died".
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Re: What do you think???

Post by See on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:16 pm

Jubilee wrote:I think when the press say he didn't turn up to rehearsals it's building up the rouse to believe that he is ill thus making the death more believable... not that the press know this but any bad news is good news for them.

In my opinion it was our Michael who was in the rehearsals, as he has arranged this movie I don't think he'd want anyone else to star in the film but him.

xxxx

LOL point exactly!!! First they make us believe he is in ill health and now he is just fine...
Why does Joe say most of the movie are doubles, does he still want us to believe that Michael was in ill health...??? And AEG want us to believe he was in top condition for the concerts..
So, what do we believe???
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Re: What do you think???

Post by See on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:19 pm

Christiana wrote:I never heard that MJ missed "most" rehearsals. I heard he had missed some. And if rehearsals were about 8 hours a day, which I read just earlier this morning, then it would only take a couple of weeks worth of rehearsals to shoot 100 hours of film. And it's normal to shoot more hours than you actually need, because it's going to be edited anyway. The more shots you have, the more options you have to get the best shots. MJ did the same with his albums; he said himself that he recorded over 100 songs for every album he recorded. Obviously, they didn't all go on the albums. He could pick and choose which ones to include.

I believe it was MJ at the rehearsals. Even if there were "doubles," I don't think they were anything more than stand-ins for when MJ was either not there, and/or for when he may have been sitting back to watch the show so that he could see how everything was coming together visually. Just my opinion.

And I remember that Michael did not like the Who Is It video because he had to use e'cas as a double because he did not have the time to finish it himself!!!
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Re: What do you think???

Post by ishealive on Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:22 pm

I agree with you Jubilee, what I can't understand and this information may be false but AEG & KO have said MJ started rehearsing in late April early May - June, I can't figure this one out. For a huge show like TII was to be wouldn't it take at least 6 months to rehearse and put the show together. If MJ wanted to take us on an adventure as he said, then it would take time to put this adventure together, he needs to train the dancers into his routines, put the whole show together and have time to take us on an adventure such an adventure that our jaws would be on the ground after witnessing it. So how did he find time to do all of this in 2 months!! I think AEG/KO are lying.
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Re: What do you think???

Post by Christiana on Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:06 pm

ishealive wrote:I agree with you Jubilee, what I can't understand and this information may be false but AEG & KO have said MJ started rehearsing in late April early May - June, I can't figure this one out. For a huge show like TII was to be wouldn't it take at least 6 months to rehearse and put the show together. If MJ wanted to take us on an adventure as he said, then it would take time to put this adventure together, he needs to train the dancers into his routines, put the whole show together and have time to take us on an adventure such an adventure that our jaws would be on the ground after witnessing it. So how did he find time to do all of this in 2 months!! I think AEG/KO are lying.

The physical rehearsals together with the dancers started then, ishealive. The pre-production, technical stuff would have started much sooner because that stuff takes the longest time. And the special stuff that involves the Dome Project, that was shot in advance. A lot of the basic dance routines in TII come from MJ's past concert tours. It's likely that there is updated and new stuff too, but you can see that a lot of the dance routines are from things MJ has already done before. A lot of those moves have come from MJ himself and are in his body memory (not sure if that's the right terminology--but it's where movements are used so often that your body can reproduce them almost automatically). And dancers are very good at learning choreography--that's what they've trained to do. If the shows had actually happened in London in July, they'd have been rehearsing about 3 months before the first live show...really plenty of time.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:17 pm

Christiana wrote:I never heard that MJ missed "most" rehearsals. I heard he had missed some. And if rehearsals were about 8 hours a day, which I read just earlier this morning, then it would only take a couple of weeks worth of rehearsals to shoot 100 hours of film. And it's normal to shoot more hours than you actually need, because it's going to be edited anyway. The more shots you have, the more options you have to get the best shots. MJ did the same with his albums; he said himself that he recorded over 100 songs for every album he recorded. Obviously, they didn't all go on the albums. He could pick and choose which ones to include.

I believe it was MJ at the rehearsals. Even if there were "doubles," I don't think they were anything more than stand-ins for when MJ was either not there, and/or for when he may have been sitting back to watch the show so that he could see how everything was coming together visually. Just my opinion.

I agree with you. I don't think Michael planned the movie anyway...I can't believe he would ever involve Sony if he did.
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Re: What do you think???

Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:23 pm

According to Kenny Ortega there were some days when Michael wasn't at rehearsals because he didn't need to be there. He also said that Michael wanted it taped, because he needs to share it with the world, not just the London concert goers. IMO this film (or DVD) was planned all along and there were no doubles. It's all Michael. The big question is: How will this film end? The day of his "death" was supposed to be rehearsal of the big illusion. What will they show us?
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Re: What do you think???

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:56 pm

So were the final dress rehearsal's filmed? I didn't see any clips of him in his stage costumes. Wouldn't he have wanted everyone to see all the cool outfits they designed for him? They showed them on Access Hollywood today...he would have looked awesome! I really hope that's in the movie.
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Re: What do you think???

Post by lonelynation on Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:08 pm

Better theory - Michael didn´t want to make a movie of rehearsals and they finished it with out him using doubles - that would mean that he really didn´t had a control over it and makes sense what Joe Jackson told to the tabloids.

I think that is a really good point.
Assuming they are in fact doubles, that'd be an excellent explanation as to why!
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Re: What do you think???

Post by mjssoulmate on Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:38 pm

I'm guessing dress rehearsals would have taken place in London.
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Re: What do you think???

Post by Styloprincess on Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:25 am

yeah that's what I think too...
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Re: What do you think???

Post by Eva R on Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:29 am

so weird... Kenny Ortega said the movie was an excident. They would film what Michael was doing and after that, Kenny and Michael could watch it and make things better. WHAT?! Yeah right.. You make videos to watch to look what things can go better. Why did they filmed like a movie then? HD. and a lot of beautiful shots (like in a movie) why would you do that if it is just a video to see if everything looks good and stuff?

PS. sorry for my english!!
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Re: What do you think???

Post by Diana.. on Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:47 am

well i know too that Mike didn`t wish a movie but for money people do many bad things so...the people from AEG LiVE want money so ...
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