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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:45 am

Okie dokie. Mom and me just got back from taking the kids trick-or-treating. Smile They all got so excited when this one house was playing the Thriller video. Hehe.
So, my mind has been racing all day. I've been reading a ton and I've gathered so much information in only a few hours.
This answered a lot of my questions. Hope it does the same for you. Smile

The following is information that Souza from the MJ Hoax Death blog found. My words are teal and Souza's words are dark blue. Smile

All credit goes to Souza Smile I cannot thank you enough for all the research and effort you put into this.

I know this is a lot of info but PLEASE read all of it. You will expand your mind and knowledge on this hoax. Smile

Here is a picture my good friend Rebecca showed me. Smile https://2img.net/h/i54.photobucket.com/albums/g114/Surfing_The_Chaos/Use_your_mind_by_AhmedGalal.jpg
Let's use our mind to defend our mind.

Ready??????????? Here we go.

Will Michael be in trouble if he comes back?

A lot of people are wondering how on earth Michael could possibly get away with this hoax.
Isn't it illegal to fake your own death?
The answer is yes. BUT....
We are forgetting that Michael Joe Jackson is a genius. And he has been planning this.
He is always one step ahead you guys. I LOVE YOU MICHAEL!

MJ was an admirer of P.T. Barnum. Here is the Cardiff story that Souza refers to.
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html

Hannum brought a lawsuit against Barnum for calling his giant a fake. When it came to trial, Hull stepped forward and confessed that the Cardiff Giant was a hoax and the entire story. The judge ruled that Barnum could not be sued for calling Hannum's giant a fake since it was a fake after all. Thereafter, Hannum's name was lost to history while Barnum was left with the misplaced stigma of being the one to say ''There's a sucker born every minute."


***Now, if we take a look at all of MJ's documents such as contracts and passports, we will see that his name is Michael Joe Jackson. Smile

Michael's passport
https://2img.net/h/i54.photobucket.com/albums/g114/Surfing_The_Chaos/mjpassport.jpg


Indictment for child molestation on December 18, 2003
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1344557&dn=y

Michael Joe Jackson

Michael Joe Jackson found Not Guilty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8hzaYNdNM&feature=related

Around 2:09

Get the point? Good. Let's dance. Lol. Joking.
Now, one thing I never noticed before is that no one is claiming Michael Joe Jackson died.
Everything on his death says that Michael Joseph Jackson died.


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http://94.100.113.31/712000001-712050000/712047201-712047300/712047258_8_OfSJ.pdf

Victim: Michael Joseph Jackson

http://94.100.114.97/712050001-712100000/712070801-712070900/712070824_8_3prQ.pdf

Death of Michael Joseph Jackson

Death Certificate anyone?? Michael Joseph Jackson...Not Michael Joe Jackson.
https://2img.net/h/i54.photobucket.com/albums/g114/Surfing_The_Chaos/5996_michael-jackson-death-certific.jpg

Soooooooooo.....it all comes down to this.
You cannot be sued or thrown in jail when it's all fake. Smile


Contract with Michael's signature

https://2img.net/h/i54.photobucket.com/albums/g114/Surfing_The_Chaos/copyofacontractfortherightsofsongs2.jpg

"SO you have Michael Jackson Company LLC and Michael Jackson himself, if this hoax is performed under the LLC he can’t be sued or liable.
BINGO!!!!"
- Souza

"Everything is a fake from a fake, which means it's NOTHING at all."
- Souza


I mentioned earlier on this site that I know Michael would have thought things through before he did this. He would have found a loophole. Did I already mention the man is a genius? Okay. Well, just had to make sure. Hehe.

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"Michael Jackson was not murdered. Why do I think so?
His songs are the biggest evidence that he has become wiser and wiser not just as a musical artist, but as a businessman, and a person. Michael may often be seen as a shy and really warm-hearted person but that does not mean that he is too weak or too blinded to see how people are taking advantage of him. We always hear the old wise say that everything happens for a reason and Michael's child-molestation trials & all media madness made Michael more careful and aware of his surroundings, it made him stronger, it made him a fighter. Just as Al Sharpton said, "…but He dealt with it!!!" You don't believe me? Listen to his songs:
i. This Time Around
ii. Money
iii. D.S.
iv. Tabloid Junkie v. Scream
…and many more!!!!
This proves that Michael ain't that stupid – (no, NOT stupid at all!) to be murdered by some doctor who can't do proper CPR? LOL. Michael said it himself that "they" thought he couldn't outthink them. The man is a GENIUS, not a dumb2x.

Something BIG was planned and it is yet to come!

a. We know that MJ was dubbed as the King of Pop, but he wanted to be the Greatest Entertainer of All Time. And being an entertainer does not only mean being able to sing and dance, it could be doing anything for entertainment. That is why I applaud the "Movie Theory." Latoya said it herself that Michael wanted to become a Film Director. Evidences planted by MJ himself?
i. Of course, the photo shown in the memorial with MJ as director in the music vid of Liberian Girl.
ii. One of the last rehearsal photos of MJ who is holding the camera and Kenny Ortega standing behind him. (Does this mean, MJ is the real director and Kenny is assistant director? Hmm..When were these photos released anyway, after his death?)

b. Another thing to point out is his speech at the O2 Press Conference where he says, "I will be singing the songs my fans want to hear." Ha! No wonder why the voting for songs is still going on at michaeljacksonlive.com.

Isn't MJ risking being caught that he is still alive by giving out clues?

Answer – NO! Not at all! There are probably less than 10% of all MJ fans around the world who believe that MJ is alive. Don't you get laughed at at your workplace, or in school, or by your friends when you tell them that MJ could be alive? Don't they think you're crazy when you tell your husband/wife, boyfriend/girlfriend that he is still alive? So what's the risk, really? There are less than 10% of us here and we are gifted to have seen those clues left to us by a GENIUS. Besides, doing a Hoaxed Death can only be a great/brilliant/extraordinary thing when people wonder "is he really dead?", or else it is not so hoax-y! That's where the thrill comes in – when people start wondering if he's really dead. And to think, "Michael Jackson is…the Thriller!"

Conclusion:

MJ's hoaxed death could be the greatest thing he has ever done yet. It will indeed "go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation" (perhaps worldwide). Why? We, people deserve the FREEDOM OF TRUTH! Everything the media tells us is lies, lies, lies! Tell me how often do you hear something good in the media? Barely, seldom – perhaps close to none! Also, most of us deserve to be FREE from judgments based on old cultures, beliefs, different religions (e.g. racism). What MJ wants to tell us is that we should do everything out of love, out of our hearts because these things are hindering us from being united as ONE! That is why we need to be conscious in everything we do – to open our eyes! MJ's hoaxed death could prove him his innocence and his pure intentions. And it also showed the people what he had to go through in his life and that we do not have the right to judge him, or other people for that matter. MJ's hoaxed death made us stand as one especially during the memorial where we were reminded of our purpose here on earth through his songs We Are the World and Heal the World. Imagine if MJ didn't die and his concerts were pushed through – do you think the world would have sung as one like what happened at the memorial? No, right? So that was a brilliant idea to bring the world back together to remind us of what we need to do about the WORLD. MJ's hoaxed death could be the beginning of his comeback and it will therefore prove that he is indeed the GREATEST ENTERTAINER OF ALL TIME!

Another 'WHY' is the prescription drugs. After what happened to him in 1993, and the death of many stars due to prescription medication like Anna Nicole Smith and Heath Ledger, I think he wants to bring down all these doctors that are just filling their pockets. Look at this article from TMZ:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/25/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-propofol-drugs-prescription-polls/
Why would they have so many polls on this topic? Is this another clue? Are we not looking into the doctor theory enough? This could also explain the involvement of the police and DEA, if they really are. Dr. Murray is just an animated puppet to get to the rest of the quack docs.
As I look more and more at this case, it seems to be bigger than the movie alone. If I am right about his intentions, reporting will never be the same again, doctors will be very closely watched and Mike will retrieve his status and wealth. On the docs Mike is very well on his way: Drug Database Created after Michael Jackson Death."

- Souza
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"What will he gain from this hoax?
I am not claiming that these 10 things are actual reasons for Mike to hoax his death, but they are obvious consequences:

1. Money
Well, that's the obvious one. This article: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/08/for-michael-jackson-estate-the-money-is-already-rolling-in.html reports the following on August 12:
Michael Jackson’s estate is poised to double the performer’s net worth by the end of this year with earnings of $200 million, according to a longtime associate and co-administrator of the performer’s affairs.
In an interview today, entertainment attorney John Branca said that deals hammered out in the seven weeks since Jackson’s death — including a film project, merchandising deals and other agreements — had brought $100 million to the estate.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't make them that quick!

2. Records
Mike had Thriller and for 25 years, Thriller had Mike. How can you possibly beat a record like that? Well, think of something better! Hoaxing your death in the way he did (or at least we are speculating on how he did it, but don't you think the pieces of the puzzle are falling together slowly?) is a brilliant plan! Keeping your audience posted on the mystery surrounding your death for 3 months already, releasing a movie that has Mystery written all over it, singles released after your death instead of before your announcement of your new tour, because usually you make a new album first, and slowly preparing the 'non-believers' that you might actually still be alive is the work of a genius. The movie will break records, the soundtrack will break records, Mike's earnings will break records. One way or the other, I am convinced he will finally beat Thriller with This is It.

3. New generation of fans

All over the world people are still playing Mike's songs 100 times more often than they did before he 'died'. Young kids that might have never heard of him, or never heard his songs, are dancing and singing to his music. People that were never really interested in Michael Jackson, realized what a legacy he left behind and started buying his cd's. Michael Jackson put himself on the map again, BIG TIME!

4. Media will never report the same way again
The media has been ridiculous these last 3 months. Reporting false autopsy reports, telling contradicting stories about Mike and the whole case. If even WE can see all these inconsistencies while we have a day job, kids to feed, or school, how come people actually WORKING for these companies, spending hours & hours per day on this stuff and actually getting paid for it, do not see what is wrong here?????? They are just reporting what they were fed, and they have made fools of themselves. We have already seen that, it's time the rest of the world sees too.

5. Knowing who to trust
In a hoax like this, you will see peoples' true colors. Not only from the people that are not aware of the hoax, but also from people that are in on it. This hoax must have been built on trust. He must have trusted the people that are in on it and he will know at the end if he was right in trusting them. As for the people not in on it…who will stay silent and respectful towards Mike? Who wants their 15 minutes of fame over his back? As we were told he had a hard time trusting people. Well I guess this will help him see who can and cannot be trusted.

6. Getting rid of his PR mask
If we believe the trailer of the movie we will see Mike as we've never seen him before. We will discover the man we've never known AKA Mike himself, as he really is, without the PR mask he has worn for years and years. Showing people who Mike is, not the entertainer, but the man with his faults, his needs, his dreams, his desires and his truths. Nobody is perfect, he isn't either. He had to play perfect for 45 years. That's an impossible task and it's time we see Michael, The Man, not the pop star.

7. Better control on prescription drugs

Becoming an addict to prescription drugs in America is too easy. As I myself believe Mike was a victim of pocket filling doctors himself in some dark periods of his life, I think he felt the need to do something about it. He is well on his way:

Drug Rehab Urges Drug Database: Fight Prescription Drug Addiction
Drug Database Created after Michael Jackson Death
Atlanta, GA 9-16-2009 05:02 GMT (TransWorldNews)
Drug addiction to prescription drugs follows a too-familiar pattern: a patient gets a prescription from a doctor for some kind of ill, be it Ritalin, Aderral, Percocet, OxyContin. Initially this drug helps with whatever it was prescribed for: anxiety, pain, restlessness. However, as time passes, the same drug dosage ceases to have the same alleviating effect. Soon, the patient finds themselves taking more and more of the prescription drug to get the same feeling. The doctor, worried that this is becoming an addiction, tries to tell the patient that they need to stop taking so much. By now, it is too late: The patient is a drug addict. As in the well known cases of Michael Jackson or Anna Nicole Smith, the patient promptly goes to another doctor and gets another prescription. Soon they are visiting, in some cases, dozens of doctors to get their fix. "Many states have electronic databases so doctors can keep their eyes on patients' drug records -making it easier for the docs to determine if someone really needs drugs, or if they're simply desperate for a fix," comments Mary Rieser, Executive Director for Narconon Drug Rehab. California just instituted this database, using Michael Jackson and Anna Nichole Smith’s deaths as reasons why. "Even though we have lobbied this effort in Georgia, we still don’t have this system in place here." In California, the database — called the Controlled Substance Utilization Review and Evaluation System (or CURES) — will be available to doctors, pharmacists and law enforcement officials. "We will continue to push our legislators that this system needs to be in place in Georgia," states Ms. Rieser. "Too many lives are being ruined and lost because of un-witting prescription drug addiction."

8. Taken serious as a movie director
As we have all seen in many interviews, Mike's big wish is to become a movie director. He wants to create film like people haven't seen before, take it to another level. Now what would have happened if he didn't hoax his death? Mike trying to make a movie, tabloids all over him with weird stories, photos or whatever sells, movie not a point of interest anymore and Mike's dream vanished into thin air. It wouldn't have worked, he was in the shadow for too long and the tabloids would have trashed him. This on the other hand is REALLY taking film to another level. It's something nobody has done before. It's a real life soap, but better and bigger. It's a comedy, a thriller, drama at the same time and it is interactive, look at us playing along in the game. No tabloid or other newspaper, tv station can EVER say that this is just a lame movie made by another bored singer trying to do something else. This is big and brilliant and there is no way around that. Although I wonder how many movies he wants to make, 'cause it will be hard to beat this!

If you have not watched Geraldo's interview with MJ, I strongly recommend you do. Smile
Michael talks about...FILM MAKING!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImqsGbaNOpE


9. Making people aware of our planet
In all ways you can imagine. Everywhere in the world people are donating to charity after his 'death', trying to keep his spirit alive and heal the world. I myself am more aware of everything I do or say, due to the few months I have lived with Mike everywhere I went. By reading about him, hearing him speak with so much passion about children, the planet, animals etc., people will stop and think. Look at the man in the mirror. It's a message that works for me and it will work for a lot more people.

10. HIStory
Mike already earned a spot in the history books, but instead of half a page, he will have a whole chapter 50 years from now. If you accomplish all of the above reaching so many people, you are worth a chapter in the history books. Future generations should hear about the man that changed the world. So let's all hope he will succeed in his plan.
All the above is reason enough to believe he will return. Maybe I am wrong and he won't, but I can't really imagine that. All I hope is that his plan will work out for him the way he wants."

- Souza

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Now, we all know MJ loved the number 7. Look at what Souza found.


MJ's 7's:
– Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
– Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 … exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
– Michael Jackson's two biggest hits — “Black & White” and “Billie Jean” — were each #1 for 7 weeks.
– Michael Jackson's three biggest albums — “Thriller,” “Bad” and “Dangerous” — each produced 7 top 40 hits.
– Michael Jackson was the 7th pregnancy of Katherine.
– Michael Jackson was born in 1958 … 19 + 58 = 77
– Michael Jackson died on the 25th … 2 + 5 = 7
– Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
– his last tour with the Jacksons started on 7/7
– Look at the date of the letter of MJ's Doc (staged IMO) they found in MJ's house. It's dated July 21, 2002.
July=7, 2+1+2+0+0+2=7. So another 7/7, coincidence? You tell me. Also weird, they had the article a few days after the 7’s article, clue here? http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/10/jackson-doc-offers-potent-narcotic-solution/

Michael has planned this perfectly, like he wants everything to be...perfect. I think that he has planned this for years now.

- Souza
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The Oprah, Letterman, TMZ, Harpo, Sony, Sirius, Time Warner, CNN, Larry King, Michael Jackson connection

"Mo is a fervent viewer of David Letterman's Late Show for about 14 years now, her eye caught the articles on TMZ regarding the David Letterman extortion case. For two days it was bugging her, but she had no idea what to do with it. She mentioned it to me and Wizard of Oz, but both of us never watch the Late Show and are not familiar with Letterman. If you're interested in this case, then check TMZ and don't forget to watch the live streams, this case is really bizarre.

Now, we all know that Oprah never commented on Mike's death until she did that special a couple of weeks ago. David Letterman didn't comment on Mike's death either, while he always discusses the news of the day in the beginning of his shows. The first time Letterman talked about Mike is when he did the interview with Paul McCartney on July 15th. Both Oprah and Letterman didn't say a word right after Mike's passing.

Anyway, Mo was in bed and was of course watching the Late Show, but she was close to falling asleep. Here in The Netherlands we're running a bit behind, and the show with Bill Clinton was broadcasted. After Dave's 'talk of the day' and his hilarious comments the first part ended, and this is when they show commercials in the US. Right before that an image was shown and a commentator said: "The Late Show is produced by Harpo Productions." That was enough to wake her up immediately, and she was like, "Say What?! Harpo Productions?? What happened to Worldwide Pants, the company that has been producing the Late Show for ages??!"

So she read all the TMZ articles about Letterman again, and then started searching for info on Harpo Productions. The first article was this: http://www.oprah.com/article/pressroom/pressrelease/20080613_orig_drozsony

Quote from this article:
"Harpo Productions and Sony Pictures Television To Launch Dr. Oz FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, June 13 Chicago, IL and Culver City, CA— Dr. Mehmet C. Oz, MD, better known to millions as Dr. Oz, the renowned and popular surgeon, educator, and best-selling author who appears regularly on The Oprah Winfrey Show, will debut in first-run syndication next year with a series co-produced by Harpo Productions and Sony Pictures Television (SPT) and distributed by SPT, it was jointly announced today by Oprah Winfrey; Tim Bennett, president, Harpo Productions; and Steve Mosko, president, Sony Pictures Television."

Mmmm…Sony again? Interesting…

Next article: http://www.oprah.com/article/pressroom/pressrelease/200907-orig-valerie-schaer-harpo-prod
Quote:
"Valerie Schaer Named Executive Vice President, Creative Development at Harpo Productions, Inc. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: July 27, 2009 CHICAGO — Valerie Schaer has been named executive vice president, creative development for Harpo Productions, Inc. Schaer, who has developed and produced some of the most well-known shows on television, comes to Harpo from Worldwide Pants Incorporated, where she served as executive vice president and oversaw all production, development, new media and business development."

Ahhh…there is Worldwide Pants, and that explains how the Late Show ended up at Harpo Productions!

Next quote:
"About Harpo: Harpo Productions, Inc. produces the number one-rated, award-winning The Oprah Winfrey Show; creates and develops original TV programming for primetime, syndication and cable television and operates Oprah.com (http://www.oprah.com/ ), a premier lifestyle website. Harpo Print, LLC and Hearst Magazines publish the monthly O, The Oprah Magazine publication. Harpo Films is dedicated to high-quality scripted dramatic programming and recently announced an exclusive television deal with HBO. Harpo Radio, Inc. produces Oprah Radio (XM channel 156, Sirius channel 195 as part of its "Best of XM" package) on Sirius XM Radio."

Sirius? Where did we hear that name before? Isn't the company that created the Murray Troot video called Sirius? Yes, it is.

Well, the resumes of the employees of Sirius Video Houston are interesting. Here are some of their past and recent projects:

*Douglas N. Burns – Directory of Photography: Dr. Phil, works on Discovery Health (Discovery will be explained later in this thread) *Raul Casares – Directory of Photography: Raul has shot for Harpo Productions and Time Warner Comm.
*Danny Clayton Jr. – Location and Studio Sound, Discovery Channel (explained later in this thread)
*Pierre J.F. Meunier – Freelance Videographer, Clients/Projects: Dr. Phil Show & Freelance Videographer, Discovery Channel
*Chris Rogers – Audio Engineer, national clients: Dr. Phil
*Jimmy Wong – Directory of Photography/Audio engineer, National clients: The Oprah Show, Dr. Phil, MTV’s "Making of",
Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood
*Joe Vasquez – Freelance Video Cameraman, Discovery Channel

BTW, Dr. Phil is produced by Harpo Productions.

Now we looked at all the others involved here, see what a beautiful connection of them all we have made, starting at Time Warner:

List of assets owned by Time Warner
Most important ones owned by Time Warner:

*AOL, directs to TMZ.com
*HBO, directs to Harpo (Oprah reversed), Harpo is linked here above to Sony and directs to Oprah and David Letterman.
Also HBO got the exclusive broadcast of the Dangerous concert back in October '92.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpo_Productions&nbsp In late 2008, Harpo Films signed an exclusive output pact with
HBO. Previously, Harpo films had a deal with ABC, which included production of Oprah Winfrey Presents: Mitch Albom's For One More Day.
*Turner Broadcasting, directs to CNN (Larry King).

Sirius Video is, as far as we can see, not linked by ownership to Time Warner, but look what we saw on their website:

Our work has appeared in programs for . . . Corporate AT&T, Anheuser Busch, BP, Dow, Chevron, Continental Airlines, Ernst & Young, Centerpoint Energy, HP, Shell Chemical, Microsoft Commercial Noel Furniture, Fellowship of the Woodlands, Lake Olympia, Ikea Reality Original Productions, LMNO Productions, Rocket Science, Actuality Productions, 44 Blue Documentary / Profile History Channel, Discovery Channel, Mediatelier-Japan, German Television (RTL??) News ABC, CBS, CNN, The Weather Channel, NBC Entertainment, Dr Phil, E! Entertainment, MTV Sports, ABC Sports, CBS Sports, ESPN, Fox Sports, HBO Sports, NBA Entertainment, NBC Sports, MLB, TBS Sports


Well, what’s up with Discovery Channel you might think? Well look at this, link of the article is already posted earlier in the post:

A joint venture between Oprah Winfrey and Discovery Communications, OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network, a multiplatform company, will debut in early 2010 in more than 70 million homes on what is currently the Discovery Health Channel.


Another link to Oprah –> Harpo –> HBO –> Time Warner
They also have a Facebook account with a comment on the Murray video.

It says:
Sirius Video Productions, Inc. Here is the You Tube video that has our phones ringing off the hook! We were hired to shoot this and that's all we know.


Sirius got a new website just 2 days before the Murray vid was uploaded. Now what's strange, is that they only make the statement on the Murray vid on Facebook, why not on their website if they are sick of the phone calls?

All in all, this looks like an obvious Oprah – Letterman – TMZ – Harpo – Sony – Sirius – Time Warner – CNN – Larry King – Michael Jackson connection!"

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"Final word

As I was 50-50 before, I am now 100% sure he is alive and well. I am not sure the movie on October 28 will be the one, maybe there is another one in production too.

If my theory is right, I will laugh my brains out, take off my hat and make a deep bow for Michael Jackson. This would be the biggest thing ever, and it would demonstrate how much of a genius he is.
Do not underestimate the KING OF ENTERTAINMENT!"

- Souza
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To read her full in depth and detailed blog, "MJ Hoax Death - The Movie Theory" go here,
http://souza-mjhoaxdeath-themovietheory.blogspot.com/2009/08/movie-theory-update-august-26.html
Thank you again Souza!!! Smile
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LizzieBee wrote:
Isn't MJ risking being caught that he is still alive by giving out clues?

Answer – NO! Not at all! There are probably less than 10% of all MJ fans around the world who believe that MJ is alive. Don't you get laughed at at your workplace, or in school, or by your friends when you tell them that MJ could be alive? Don't they think you're crazy when you tell your husband/wife, boyfriend/girlfriend that he is still alive? So what's the risk, really? There are less than 10% of us here and we are gifted to have seen those clues left to us by a GENIUS. Besides, doing a Hoaxed Death can only be a great/brilliant/extraordinary thing when people wonder "is he really dead?", or else it is not so hoax-y! That's where the thrill comes in – when people start wondering if he's really dead. And to think, "Michael Jackson is…the Thriller!"

Thankyou Liz and Souza. Very great theory! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink I agree with this qoute though, whenever I told me friend that MJ is alive they said that i'm insane! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_mad So there is no risk at all because to people that don't know that his death is a hoax, even if the clue stare right infront of their eyes they won't even know it's a clue. As for hoax believers, you know we hoax believers/fans will protect MJ no matter what so we will keep it as a secret! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:12 am

@iMISSYOUMJ

Thank you for reading. Smile
And exactly! The non-believers really don't think twice..."Remember to always think twice" from Billie Jean. Hehe. Smile
There could be a clue right in front of them and they would not recognize it. It would mean nothing to them. That's why it's not much of a risk. cheers
With all my L.O.V.E.,
Elizabeth <3
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Firstly, I just want to say welcome back - surely missed LIZ Jackson. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz

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Thank you for reading. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile
And exactly! The non-believers really don't think twice..."Remember to always think twice" from Billie Jean. Hehe. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile
There could be a clue right in front of them and they would not recognize it. It would mean nothing to them. That's why it's not much of a risk. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers
With all my L.O.V.E.,
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Hehe you're welcome! I love reading your post though. Hmmm, have you accpeted me as friend on YT? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:39 am

wow that is great!! Very Happy
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:43 am

Eva R wrote:wow that is great!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!

That would be great! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin When Michael come back I will tell me friend that "LOL, who is the one who do not believe it, it's you guys! Idiot dumb dumb!" Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol Sorry to be rude but this is what they called me at first! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:47 am

Eva R wrote:wow that is great!! Very Happy
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!

I know!!! Reading all of this info got me more excited than ever. I kept looking up at my MJ poster and saying, "Michael, you are a GENIUS!" I hope he heard me. Lol. Even though he's alive. I know somehow he knows. Smile
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:52 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:wow that is great!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!

That would be great! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin When Michael come back I will tell me friend that "LOL, who is the one who do not believe it, it's you guys! Idiot dumb dumb!" Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol Sorry to be rude but this is what they called me at first! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

Lol. Aww...I'm sorry they called you names. We are the ones who are right. And for those who always question me, they've got a big "I told you so" coming their way. Lol. And my friend asked me today what I would feel like if I found out he really was dead. I told her I KNOW he is alive. But then I thought...even if I was wrong....which I'm NOT. But IF I was, I know MJ would want us to take a leap of faith. After all, seeing is NOT believing. Believing is seeing. We don't have to see MJ to know that he is here. We have faith. And what makes it even better is that we also have CLUES!! So, keep the faith you guys. Know that MJ AND I love you more. <3 I hope that gives you comfort.

And yes, I did add you on Youtube. Thanks for the request darling. <3
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:56 am

Thank you Juliet. I missed all of you too. Smile
I've been working on this post today but I'll work on another one soon. It's 1:55 am on Sunday morning and I still have MJ on my mind. <3 My next thread is about TII. Yay!! I have to start it in a few minutes. I still don't know how I'm going to put all of my thoughts into one organized post. Suspect Basketball
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Post by lonelynation Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:03 am

That was amazing.
Thank you so much for posting this!!
That part about his middle name really caught my attention.
Is it possible any of those documents are fake? I really don't know anything about them
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:08 am

Lol. It is always possible a document can be fake. BUT...we know that in 2005 the court said Michael Joe Jackson was not guilty. The video proves it. So that is his legal name. Yet, Michael Joseph Jackson died June of 2009. But....I thought his middle name was Joe. Oh...it is. Yay!! Smile
Really...I can't believe I never noticed it before. Thanks for reading. I hope it lifted your spirits and answered your questions like it did mine. Smile
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Post by juliet Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:11 am

LIZ, you can put all your thoughts in a well organized way.

You have the MJackson blood in you Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Drunken_smilie
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:15 am

Hehe. Thank you love. Smile
I'm sure it will turn out great! And I want to share it with all of you. We must encourage one another. Love you guys!!!! <3 Oh my gosh!! This thought just popped up in my head! When it is announced to the world that MJ is alive...we should have a reunion-type party. Smile
We will celebrate for sure but I would love to meet all of you one day. Smile
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Post by ilprincipe Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:22 am

Hi Lizzie Bee:

this is a really nice summary of some theories...and it's a good read, if you have an off day Smile

But for me there was nothing new....I read a lot here and on MJHD and knew about
Barnum...Joe/Joseph and so on....

I just wonder when MJ finally will return...some ppl think he'll comeback on christmas...
some think, when you at least expect him...
so I expect it every day...that's really bad
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:33 am

@ilprincipe

I know how you feel. I have had so many days when I just got so upset...depressed even, over this whole thing. I want to know everything. But of course, the thing we want to know most is when he will return. I do not know. There is really no way of knowing. Like he has said at the end of TII, "Let me breathe in my own time when I come back in." I believe he is going to come back. And he is going to stun the world. Remember, everything happens for a reason. MJ had his reasons for doing this. A lot of them are becoming clear to us with each day that passes. The most important thing right now is that he really is doing everything he can to let us know that he is still here. He will come back. It's in his messages. We will have to wait though. I know the patience part sucks. But it's what Michael asked for. So I will gladly give it to him. <3 I know he'll come back but only when he feels it is the right time. Only when he is ready. You trust him don't you? Smile Aww...I'm reminded of the scene in Aladdin when he asks Jasmine, "Do you trust me?" and reaches out his hand. MJ is our Aladdin. Smile Keep the faith love. <3
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:23 am

LizzieBee wrote:
Eva R wrote:wow that is great!! Very Happy
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!

I know!!! Reading all of this info got me more excited than ever. I kept looking up at my MJ poster and saying, "Michael, you are a GENIUS!" I hope he heard me. Lol. Even though he's alive. I know somehow he knows. Smile

haha yes!! he is a genius! <3 Yeah he knows you say that, because he read it here! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:27 am

Lol!! Aww...you made me smile. I really hope he reads at least one of my posts. That's why I have to remember to put it in all of 'em. I want him to know I LOVE HIM MORE! Hehe. Isn't it exciting just thinking that the beautiful man we love so much could be reading our words/thoughts/opinions at any moment??? I get goose bumps. Ahhh...I'm in love. Really. I have been for a while now. Michael has me speechless. I love you Michael...you are my heart and soul. <3 I hope he reads that one too. Smile
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:29 am

haha yes!! He has to be inside every day or undercover outside so he is bored Razz So he is on the internet looking at forums about his death hoax and reads if people saw the clues in the movie! Very Happy
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:34 am

Yay!! Lol. Okay. I'm going to work on my TII clues now...new thread...Ahh!!! Hope I get this right. Or at least some of it right. Michael...I'll be looking up at you for inspiration. <3
I have a beautiful poster of you on my wall. <3

"If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with." Beautiful. I love you more. <3
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:55 am

LizzieBee wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:wow that is great!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!

That would be great! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin When Michael come back I will tell me friend that "LOL, who is the one who do not believe it, it's you guys! Idiot dumb dumb!" Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol Sorry to be rude but this is what they called me at first! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

Lol. Aww...I'm sorry they called you names. We are the ones who are right. And for those who always question me, they've got a big "I told you so" coming their way. Lol. And my friend asked me today what I would feel like if I found out he really was dead. I told her I KNOW he is alive. But then I thought...even if I was wrong....which I'm NOT. But IF I was, I know MJ would want us to take a leap of faith. After all, seeing is NOT believing. Believing is seeing. We don't have to see MJ to know that he is here. We have faith. And what makes it even better is that we also have CLUES!! So, keep the faith you guys. Know that MJ AND I love you more. <3 I hope that gives you comfort.

And yes, I did add you on Youtube. Thanks for the request darling. <3

LOLs! Thankyou! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Liz do you know that you sometime give me a feeling that you're actually MJ. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? HerzAnswers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz Weird feelings I would have!Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:07 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
LizzieBee wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:wow that is great!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin
Yeah, people also think I am weird because I think he is alive... AND when he comes back i say: SEE!! I AM NOT STUPID!!! MICHAEL IS THE BEST!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers gosh, that is going to be great!

That would be great! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin When Michael come back I will tell me friend that "LOL, who is the one who do not believe it, it's you guys! Idiot dumb dumb!" Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol Sorry to be rude but this is what they called me at first! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

Lol. Aww...I'm sorry they called you names. We are the ones who are right. And for those who always question me, they've got a big "I told you so" coming their way. Lol. And my friend asked me today what I would feel like if I found out he really was dead. I told her I KNOW he is alive. But then I thought...even if I was wrong....which I'm NOT. But IF I was, I know MJ would want us to take a leap of faith. After all, seeing is NOT believing. Believing is seeing. We don't have to see MJ to know that he is here. We have faith. And what makes it even better is that we also have CLUES!! So, keep the faith you guys. Know that MJ AND I love you more. <3 I hope that gives you comfort.

And yes, I did add you on Youtube. Thanks for the request darling. <3

LOLs! Thankyou! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Liz do you know that you sometime give me a feeling that you're actually MJ. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? HerzAnswers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz Weird feelings I would have!Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol

haha that would be great! Very Happy And Michael doing this: <3 haha! That would be cool!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:10 am

Lol. Oh my gosh! Are you serious? I've had the same feelings about other members on here. I think it would be so awesome if one of the members I talk to every day was MJ. That would make me so happy. But I can assure you that I am not Michael. Smile
I know. It sucks for you. Sad
Hehe. But we can both love Michael together. Isn't that great? Smile
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:22 am

LizzieBee wrote:Lol. Oh my gosh! Are you serious? I've had the same feelings about other members on here. I think it would be so awesome if one of the members I talk to every day was MJ. That would make me so happy. But I can assure you that I am not Michael. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile
I know. It sucks for you. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_sad
Hehe. But we can both love Michael together. Isn't that great? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

I know you're not i'm just having the feelings that you are, so it's ok. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink All of us can love Michael together! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? HerzAnswers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz to both Liz and Michael! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? HerzAnswers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz I notice that you and Eva R are both age 16. But both of your typing seems to be more mature than 16 hehe. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:32 am

Aww. Thank you. I am mature for my age. But I've always written/typed like this. For the last 5 years at least. Smile Are you really only 13?
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Post by LizzieBee Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:35 am

Oh man...okay. I really have to go to sleep. I feel like my brain is turning into goo. It's 6:30 am here and I've been up all night researching. *yawns* I'll be on later today. Hopefully I finish my TII clues thread when I wake up. Smile
Okay. I love you all so much! Good night/morning. Hehe.

Michael, I LOVE YOU MORE! And you know it. <3
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iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
LizzieBee wrote:Lol. Oh my gosh! Are you serious? I've had the same feelings about other members on here. I think it would be so awesome if one of the members I talk to every day was MJ. That would make me so happy. But I can assure you that I am not Michael. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile
I know. It sucks for you. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_sad
Hehe. But we can both love Michael together. Isn't that great? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

I know you're not i'm just having the feelings that you are, so it's ok. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink All of us can love Michael together! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? HerzAnswers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz to both Liz and Michael! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? HerzAnswers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz I notice that you and Eva R are both age 16. But both of your typing seems to be more mature than 16 hehe. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol

aaww thank you hun! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz I really think I suck in English!! I am from Holland so... I think you are really good! You are just 13 and you really do good things on this forum! Very Happy
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:38 am

LizzieBee wrote:Aww. Thank you. I am mature for my age. But I've always written/typed like this. For the last 5 years at least. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile Are you really only 13?

I see, yepps i'm age 13! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink
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aaww thank you hun! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz I really think I suck in English!! I am from Holland so... I think you are really good! You are just 13 and you really do good things on this forum! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin

Is it? Thankyou! I always thought that I posted something that came up became nonsense. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:46 am

haha lol! No absolutely not! You are great! Very Happy And I just LOVE your moving picture!! He looks so cute and in that video there is also a little boy on his lap and he did a yawn and Michael was laughing! SO CUTE!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz
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Post by juliet Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:47 am

Okay, girls, don't you have school tomorrow? How about homework/projects? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_study

I'm just joking girls. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:55 am

Eva R wrote:haha lol! No absolutely not! You are great! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin And I just LOVE your moving picture!! He looks so cute and in that video there is also a little boy on his lap and he did a yawn and Michael was laughing! SO CUTE!! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz

Hey yes it's cute! Hey do you have the link to that video? I would like to watch it! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Herz
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Post by IndonesianGirl Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:57 am

i really love this post ..

G.E.N.I.U.S !!!!!!
good job for Liz !!!
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juliet wrote:Okay, girls, don't you have school tomorrow? How about homework/projects? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_study

I'm just joking girls. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol

Hahas! I'm having my holiday right now! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_santa
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:03 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
juliet wrote:Okay, girls, don't you have school tomorrow? How about homework/projects? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_study

I'm just joking girls. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Lol

Hahas! I'm having my holiday right now! Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_cheers Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_santa

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!
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Post by Harleyblonde Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:03 am

Quote "A lot of people are wondering how on earth Michael could possibly get away with this hoax.
Isn't it illegal to fake your own death?
The answer is yes. BUT....
We are forgetting that Michael Joe Jackson is a genius. And he has been planning this.
He is always one step ahead you guys. I LOVE YOU MICHAEL! Quote.


@LizzieBee, I do see what you are getting at and it was avery well written and thought out post and bless you for that BUT
It is actually illegal to hoax a death if there is financial gain and as we all know sales have rocketed as they did with Elvis after his departure and no matter that he was Joe, Joseph, if the death certificate or passport was in his name or Joe Blogg's name if Michael or any of his family or any estate or company associated with Michael gains financially then it is a criminal offence.
Also it is not my intention to put down you guys at all as you are very special people and we can and enjoy a difference of opinion and that is what its all about-digging as deep as we can go and considering every little clue or idea. Let me get to the point. Have any of you thought for a minute that Michael could be feeling really bad now? Dont you think if he is hiding away somewhere it will be very hard and he will be living in fear of the hoax being revealed in these early months. Some of you on here are talking like it is one of his pranks or games which he loved but this is really serious stuff and his whole future and that of his children and family are at stake so do not for one minute think he did this without fear, I cannot imagine how he felt-we all love him so can you imagine how hard it will have been and how nervous and aprehensive he must have been?
Also you are all saying he was a genius, yes he was a genius composer, performer, humanitarian but someone cannot be genius at everything. He told his fans on many occasions that he was just a man and people didn't treat him as a normal person-he said people talk to Michael the performer and not the man. In a way it is sad that he is considered a genius as that would suggest that no one was capable of hurting and getting one over on him and we know that isn't true. Remember the court case when he was accused of terrible acts against children when he was as innocent as a new born babe? where was the genius then? Why wasn't he one step ahead then? A genius at everything would not have been in his position,he was very vunerable then and has been many times in his life when he has been ripped off and people see him as a money machine.
I think we need to remove the rose coloured glasses and think of Michael as a genius at performing but a very sweet and vunerable human being who has been hurt and manipulated by many. He hurts just like us and is probably feeling much hurt now to think that people are mourning his death and he is probably feeling fear and aprehension and this cannot be an easy position for him to be in. Please remember that.
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:05 am

at 2:35 Very Happy
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:21 am

Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning or afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink


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Post by ishealive Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:25 am

Thanks for this Liz, it was good to see all theories put together.
MJ is a genius, so far MJ hasn't done anything illegal!
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:02 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

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at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:23 am

Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning of afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Sorry typo. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface I mean is it on the morning or afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:28 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning of afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Sorry typo. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface I mean is it on the morning or afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

morning. And really early! I have to be at school at 8:15 a.m :O (Hope I say it good, because P.M is in the evening right?)
And can you go to school in the afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_tongue I wish I could!
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:34 am

Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning of afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Sorry typo. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface I mean is it on the morning or afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

morning. And really early! I have to be at school at 8:15 a.m :O (Hope I say it good, because P.M is in the evening right?)
And can you go to school in the afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_tongue I wish I could!

Wow that's early but I went school usually at 6.30am in singapore. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Hmm P.M. is afternoon 12p.m. till midnight 12a.m. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile For secondary school in singapore we can't go to school in the afternoon but for primary school we can go to school in the afternoon- Depends on which school you have. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile So what's the time now in Holland? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:39 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning of afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Sorry typo. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface I mean is it on the morning or afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

morning. And really early! I have to be at school at 8:15 a.m :O (Hope I say it good, because P.M is in the evening right?)
And can you go to school in the afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_tongue I wish I could!

Wow that's early but I went school usually at 6.30am in singapore. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Hmm P.M. is afternoon 12p.m. till midnight 12a.m. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile For secondary school in singapore we can't go to school in the afternoon but for primary school we can go to school in the afternoon- Depends on which school you have. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile So what's the time now in Holland? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

ooh OK. well I am in High school and every day I have to start early.. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_evil Now here it is 5:45 p.m Smile And in singapore? Very Happy
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:45 am

Good recap. I love to see the real legal docs with MJ's REAL middle name-Joe-on them. It makes me feel this is all really hoax.
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Post by iMISSYOUMJ Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:50 am

Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning of afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Sorry typo. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface I mean is it on the morning or afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

morning. And really early! I have to be at school at 8:15 a.m :O (Hope I say it good, because P.M is in the evening right?)
And can you go to school in the afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_tongue I wish I could!

Wow that's early but I went school usually at 6.30am in singapore. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Hmm P.M. is afternoon 12p.m. till midnight 12a.m. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile For secondary school in singapore we can't go to school in the afternoon but for primary school we can go to school in the afternoon- Depends on which school you have. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile So what's the time now in Holland? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

ooh OK. well I am in High school and every day I have to start early.. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_evil Now here it is 5:45 p.m Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile And in singapore? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin

Wow you starts High school at age 16 in Holland? In singapore we join High school in an older age. I mean maybe 17-18. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol It's 12:50 A.M here in Singapore. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink
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Post by Eva R Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:38 am

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
Eva R wrote:

this is the video. SO CUTE!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqS7h8GrzXM&feature=related

haha!! Yeah I have to go to school tomorrow... Last week was my holiday...
Yeah I have to do some homework. I am going to do it now. I am back for about 15 min.!

Awww! How cute is he on that day? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Smiley-love016! Thankyou! Is your school at the morning of afternoon? If you don't my me asking. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

at the morning of afternoon? sorry I don't understand Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Sorry typo. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface I mean is it on the morning or afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

morning. And really early! I have to be at school at 8:15 a.m :O (Hope I say it good, because P.M is in the evening right?)
And can you go to school in the afternoon? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_tongue I wish I could!

Wow that's early but I went school usually at 6.30am in singapore. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Hmm P.M. is afternoon 12p.m. till midnight 12a.m. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile For secondary school in singapore we can't go to school in the afternoon but for primary school we can go to school in the afternoon- Depends on which school you have. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile So what's the time now in Holland? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile

ooh OK. well I am in High school and every day I have to start early.. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_evil Now here it is 5:45 p.m Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile And in singapore? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_biggrin

Wow you starts High school at age 16 in Holland? In singapore we join High school in an older age. I mean maybe 17-18. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_lol It's 12:50 A.M here in Singapore. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

woow! 17-18? Wow that is old! I mean High school.. uuhm.. like in high school musical Razz That kinda school I mean Smile Wow that is old! We start to go to high school when we are 13 or something! But what means secondary school? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface
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woow! 17-18? Wow that is old! I mean High school.. uuhm.. like in high school musical Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_razz That kinda school I mean Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile Wow that is old! We start to go to high school when we are 13 or something! But what means secondary school? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Yeah that's the school I mean, wearing home clothes to school and not uniform. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Secondary school means High school in Holland. (I think so.) Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink
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woow! 17-18? Wow that is old! I mean High school.. uuhm.. like in high school musical Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_razz That kinda school I mean Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile Wow that is old! We start to go to high school when we are 13 or something! But what means secondary school? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Yeah that's the school I mean, wearing home clothes to school and not uniform. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Secondary school means High school in Holland. (I think so.) Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

yeah that is what I mean. Not the school before High school with little kids you know. So in Singapore they go to High SChool at the age of 17-18? cool!
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Eva R wrote:
iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
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woow! 17-18? Wow that is old! I mean High school.. uuhm.. like in high school musical Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_razz That kinda school I mean Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_smile Wow that is old! We start to go to high school when we are 13 or something! But what means secondary school? Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_redface

Yeah that's the school I mean, wearing home clothes to school and not uniform. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink Secondary school means High school in Holland. (I think so.) Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink

yeah that is what I mean. Not the school before High school with little kids you know. So in Singapore they go to High SChool at the age of 17-18? cool!

Yepps. That's called JC and Poly. Answers: Hoax illegal? MJ's reasons 4 hoax? LKL connection? Icon_wink
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