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Post by WanaBstartnSthn Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:39 am

I notice after watching the film slot of you seem to be talking about Michael like he's not here anymore. Do you guys think Michael is gone? I feel kind of indifferent. I walked away from the theater not knowing wat to think or how to feel. Do you feel that now that a lot of what we speculated regarding the movie, didn't actually happen, are you let down? Do you think he's really dead?
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Post by mjgirl86 Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:46 am

Hmm, well I have yet to see it, but when I do, I hope I don't feel that way.........
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Post by HeavyHearts Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:48 am

If he really is gone, I am switching to researching the illuminati.
The other day it hit me.
Remember how that guy in the police department stepped down?
It doesn't make sense that he would step down if it were a hoax
he would want to be involved.
however if the illuminati were involved, he would step down because of danger.


I'm really not sure what to believe. What I do know is there is 22 hours until I see TII and I cant wait another minute!!! ahh I'm going insane.
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Post by suzzie Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:50 am

After seeing the movie, I am much more convinced that he is in fact alive. There is no mention of death in the movie at all, most of documentaries made for him includes "Michael Jackson 1958-2009" there's none of that in the film, and the way Michael moved is a statement that he is very healthy. I thought I will be emotional during the film, before I went inside the theater I have butterflies in my stomach but after seeing it I felt light. But you're right nothing that we speculated didn't actually happen. Maybe he'll comeback in a most unexpected way, you know to truly shock the world.
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Post by mjgirl86 Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:51 am

suzzie wrote:After seeing the movie, I am much more convinced that he is in fact alive. There is no mention of death in the movie at all, most of documentaries made for him includes "Michael Jackson 1958-2009" there's none of that in the film, and the way Michael moved is a statement that he is very healthy. I thought I will be emotional during the film, before I went inside the theater I have butterflies in my stomach but after seeing it I felt light. But you're right nothing that we speculated didn't actually happen. Maybe he'll comeback in a most unexpected way, you know to truly shock the world.

Very Happy Wow, that's encouraging!! geek
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:59 am

I'm seeing it tonight, but I had already had it in my mind that I wouldn't be affected one way or the other. I don't really think the movie has anything to do with the hoax.
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Post by bel Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:10 am

nothing spectaculated turned out...? wow. sony & AEG ... am speechless.!
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Post by andrea_garay2005 Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:18 am

I can't see the movie....does anyone know how can I order the DVD or something?
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:28 am

I heard they will be releasing it before Christmas.
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Post by IndonesianGirl Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:30 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I'm seeing it tonight, but I had already had it in my mind that I wouldn't be affected one way or the other. I don't really think the movie has anything to do with the hoax.

im agree with you ....
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Post by SunShine Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:45 am

I have seen the movie....you have to stay right to the end, like til there is nothing on the screen...let the credits roll.....and just watch and see what comes.
In all it was a amazing movie...he even makes you laugh...and hot damn sexy...moves are crisp and awesome...I can with no drought say our Micheal Jackson was a healthy man in THIS IS IT..
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Post by amber Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:46 am

Hey guys please dont loose hope, JMO but im not expecting alot from movie purely cos i think there is an alterior motive in it tho i dont no what! if its going to get people thinking he is infact dead, then just maybe thats what mj wants!!! please keep your wits about you do not forget all the evidence and remember this is just a movie....
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Post by CantStopLovingU Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:48 am

mjgirl86 wrote:
suzzie wrote:After seeing the movie, I am much more convinced that he is in fact alive. There is no mention of death in the movie at all, most of documentaries made for him includes "Michael Jackson 1958-2009" there's none of that in the film, and the way Michael moved is a statement that he is very healthy. I thought I will be emotional during the film, before I went inside the theater I have butterflies in my stomach but after seeing it I felt light. But you're right nothing that we speculated didn't actually happen. Maybe he'll comeback in a most unexpected way, you know to truly shock the world.

After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_biggrin Wow, that's encouraging!! After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_geek

I know I cannot wait until 8pm this evening!
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Post by IndonesianGirl Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:50 am

SunShine wrote:I have seen the movie....you have to stay right to the end, like til there is nothing on the screen...let the credits roll.....and just watch and see what comes.
In all it was a amazing movie...he even makes you laugh...and hot damn sexy...moves are crisp and awesome...I can with no drought say our Micheal Jackson was a healthy man in THIS IS IT..

yees i really really agree with you ...
his moves, his laugh, his voice ... DANM HOT AND SEXY ... !
and he's looks really healthy .... umm .. some scene shows he's little bit thin, but other scene show he's looks very good
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:59 am

Did people clap at the end? I'm planning to make everyone clap. Laughing
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Post by Truth_or_Dare Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:01 am

Do you guys remember that there was talk about watching the movie till he very end? On twitter and I think someone mentioned it here as ell as a clue...
I personally have my doubts about that ending ...but I'll wait to see it tonight and post my thoughts on it afterwards.
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:03 am

WanaBstartnSthn wrote:I notice after watching the film slot of you seem to be talking about Michael like he's not here anymore. Do you guys think Michael is gone? I feel kind of indifferent. I walked away from the theater not knowing wat to think or how to feel. Do you feel that now that a lot of what we speculated regarding the movie, didn't actually happen, are you let down? Do you think he's really dead?

I believe today even more than yesterday that he is alive.
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:05 am

Truth_or_Dare wrote:Do you guys remember that there was talk about watching the movie till he very end? On twitter and I think someone mentioned it here as ell as a clue...
I personally have my doubts about that ending ...but I'll wait to see it tonight and post my thoughts on it afterwards.
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All I'll say is this..stay in your seat until AFTER the credits run..there's more
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Post by Smelly Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:06 am

SunShine wrote:I have seen the movie....you have to stay right to the end, like til there is nothing on the screen...let the credits roll.....and just watch and see what comes.
In all it was a amazing movie...he even makes you laugh...and hot damn sexy...moves are crisp and awesome...I can with no drought say our Micheal Jackson was a healthy man in THIS IS IT..

It was a fantastic movie, I went away with a HUGE smile on my face! Btw Sunshine, when you say he is "hot damn sexy" are you by any chance talking about the Billy Jean rehearsal loool

And stay in your seats when the credits roll!
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Post by illusionist Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:06 am

Over the weekend while I was in LA helping a friend shoot a music video for some glam band I was losing hope. Now, after seeing the movie, I am now so confused and let's just say, something definitely ain't right. My friend who went to the movie with me last night walked away from the theatre very suspicious. She was even picking a few things out in the movie. lol For one, there was a part when Michael said he wanted to save his voice. A crew member busted up laughing. My friend asked, Why? If he didn't plan on doing the concerts then why try to save his voice and why did that one crew member laugh? Anyone catch that?

So yeah, I'm not leaving hoaxland quite yet. After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_cool
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Post by Smelly Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:12 am

@illusionist

I heard that aswell, but idk, I still think the best is yet to come
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Post by IndonesianGirl Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:19 am

well ... i've watched the movie ....
but i missed the ending ! i've tried to watch the credirt .. but it takes long time ... Evil or Very Mad
but i'll watch it again ... hehehyaaa !
i'll watch it tilll the security ask me to leave my chair ... cheers
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Post by yaya Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:31 am

i watched it til the very end and i really loved it! he sounded great. yeah, he did look thinner in some scenes...maybe it was the pants? i dunno. but he did look healthy and it seemed like the further the movie went on, the more hype he was. and i certainly still believe he's alive. especially not seeing any "1958-2009" or "RIP", unless i just missed it or something. i thought it was suspicious to not include it, but it had a "dedicated to" part, for his children.

the only thing i'm thinking now is, where do we go from here? we were all looking forward to the movie, whether it had clues or not...but now i just feel like i dunno what to look forward to now After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_eek and btw, when is chief bratton stepping down?
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Post by IndonesianGirl Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:40 am

@yaya
yes yes yea .. im agree with you about R.I.P or 1958 - 2009 .. im not seeing that ..
just "love never end" like that ...


about clues ... maybe some of the scene .. i feel something strange in few scene .. but i can't find it .... what is that ... but what i think about the film is true ... from the beggining, they're wanna make a film ... a rehearsal film .... not a concert ..like kenny's word in that movie ".. my new film .. "

btw, this movie really really greaaat ... and the Oscar goes to .... Michael Jackson's THIS IS IT lol!
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Post by Harleyblonde Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:52 am

the only thing i'm thinking now is, where do we go from here? we were all looking forward to the movie, whether it had clues or not...but now i just feel like i dunno what to look forward to now After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_eek and btw, when is chief bratton stepping down?[/quote]

Chief Bratton doesn't retire until next year so I don't think this has any bearing on the hoax as he is at the age of retirement anyway. Unless he has been paid a large amount of money for services rendered.........
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:59 am

I thought he was done the end of this month? Maybe I'm wrong...
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Post by Eva R Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:00 am

AJHFSOUHIUOHAAAAAAAA!!!! sorry! I just can't wait till friday!!! I am going to sit till the very end! I wanna see what happens!! is it cool? Very Happy
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Post by yaya Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:01 am

4evermichael71 wrote:I thought he was done the end of this month? Maybe I'm wrong...

me too! there was a whole discussion about it months ago. but maybe we were wrong or there was a sudden change of plans. it was supposed to be super weird cuz his contract (that he had recently renewed) wasn't finished yet...hmm...
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Post by suzzie Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:02 am

andrea_garay2005 wrote:I can't see the movie....does anyone know how can I order the DVD or something?

well inserted in the this is it album, along with the booklet, is a flyer stating that they will come up with the dvd/blue ray of the movie, loaded with never before seen extras, when? it said "soon
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Post by MJJ Love Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:19 am

suzzie wrote:After seeing the movie, I am much more convinced that he is in fact alive. There is no mention of death in the movie at all, most of documentaries made for him includes "Michael Jackson 1958-2009" there's none of that in the film, and the way Michael moved is a statement that he is very healthy. I thought I will be emotional during the film, before I went inside the theater I have butterflies in my stomach but after seeing it I felt light. But you're right nothing that we speculated didn't actually happen. Maybe he'll comeback in a most unexpected way, you know to truly shock the world.

Same here,
That was a clue to me right there .
No RIP or dates....
I also thought I would get emotional. BUT i was happy to see him and I did not get the feeling he was ill.
He moved like he was 30.
My FAITH continues to remain strong.
THIS IS NOT IT.
CAN'T BE
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:40 am

suzzie wrote:
andrea_garay2005 wrote:I can't see the movie....does anyone know how can I order the DVD or something?

well inserted in the this is it album, along with the booklet, is a flyer stating that they will come up with the dvd/blue ray of the movie, loaded with never before seen extras, when? it said "soon

You can pre order the DVD right now on Itunes...I didnt see WHEN it was available for sale though...I think in time for Xmas
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:56 am

http://americancityandcounty.com/pubsafe/la-police-chief-bratton-resigns-20090806/

According to this..Halloween When Chief Bratton retires.


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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:58 am


I clicked that link and I got something about Chief Bratton
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Post by marsheliamorgan Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:58 am

ok,isaw movie,last nite but didnt/couldnt stay til after credits COULD SOMEONE please pm me and tell me WHAT I MISSED PLEASE?i would really truly appreciate it, also,one part i found odd, and i dont know for sure IF it means anything,BUT,at the credits it also states frank dileo as CO-PRODUCER,since when do MANAGERS get to also be CO-PRODUCERS?this part stumped me and made me think alittle bit. any info would be GREATLY appreciated, thanks again shelia
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:04 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:

I clicked that link and I got something about Chief Bratton
Then who is the chief of the LAPD? I thought that was him? I'm so embarrassed Embarassed
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:11 am

Chief Bratton is the Chief until he resigns.........youve got me confused!! LOL
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:18 am

Harleyblonde wrote:the only thing i'm thinking now is, where do we go from here? we were all looking forward to the movie, whether it had clues or not...but now i just feel like i dunno what to look forward to now After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_eek and btw, when is chief bratton stepping down?

Chief Bratton doesn't retire until next year so I don't think this has any bearing on the hoax as he is at the age of retirement anyway. Unless he has been paid a large amount of money for services rendered.........
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@The Jacksonologist- This is what I was attempting to answer. I guess my fingers went one way and my mind the other LOL I'm sorry for confusing you Sad
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Post by yaya Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:25 am

4evermichael71 wrote:http://americancityandcounty.com/pubsafe/la-police-chief-bratton-resigns-20090806/

According to this..Halloween When Chief Bratton retires.

that's what i thought! so his resignation is still in effect..? it should be...don't see why he'd have a sudden change of heart.
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Post by Human_nature Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:30 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
suzzie wrote:
andrea_garay2005 wrote:I can't see the movie....does anyone know how can I order the DVD or something?

well inserted in the this is it album, along with the booklet, is a flyer stating that they will come up with the dvd/blue ray of the movie, loaded with never before seen extras, when? it said "soon

You can pre order the DVD right now on Itunes...I didnt see WHEN it was available for sale though...I think in time for Xmas

I can't see this on itunes After Seeing The Movie.. Confused ONly the CD, no DVD.... After Seeing The Movie.. Confused
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Post by 4evermichael71 Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:32 am

yaya wrote:
4evermichael71 wrote:http://americancityandcounty.com/pubsafe/la-police-chief-bratton-resigns-20090806/

According to this..Halloween When Chief Bratton retires.

that's what i thought! so his resignation is still in effect..? it should be...don't see why he'd have a sudden change of heart.

There was nothing that said he changed his mind..at least not that I saw.
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Post by lovelidae Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:35 am

Chief Bratton is resigning on October 31st of this year. That means in just a few short days.
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Post by suzzie Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:59 am

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
suzzie wrote:
andrea_garay2005 wrote:I can't see the movie....does anyone know how can I order the DVD or something?

well inserted in the this is it album, along with the booklet, is a flyer stating that they will come up with the dvd/blue ray of the movie, loaded with never before seen extras, when? it said "soon

You can pre order the DVD right now on Itunes...I didnt see WHEN it was available for sale though...I think in time for Xmas

I can't see this on itunes After Seeing The Movie.. Confused ONly the CD, no DVD.... After Seeing The Movie.. Confused

out in itunes is the TII album, DVD of the film will be out soon. the ads is inside the album. maybe in a few months
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Post by suzzie Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:07 am

maria-c wrote:
Now, the persons who saw the movie who think about this?



http://derekclontz.com/2009/10/27/this-is-its-33-clues-that-prove-mj-faked-his-death-help-us-find-them/

it's kinda hard to disect the film, you know, without a copy of it, unless we all got photograhic memory.Lol.. it'll be hard specially to find clues on "HIS FACIAL EXPRESSION" After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_rabbit
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Post by yaya Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:16 am

suzzie wrote:
maria-c wrote:
Now, the persons who saw the movie who think about this?



http://derekclontz.com/2009/10/27/this-is-its-33-clues-that-prove-mj-faked-his-death-help-us-find-them/

it's kinda hard to disect the film, you know, without a copy of it, unless we all got photograhic memory.Lol.. it'll be hard specially to find clues on "HIS FACIAL EXPRESSION" After Seeing The Movie.. Icon_rabbit

i'm thinking maybe this is why liz taylor was so insistent on us seeing it again and again. she was raving so much about it on her tweets. i saw the movie last night and there's no way (at least for me) that i could have sat there and enjoyed michael while trying to dig up clues and take notes at the same time.
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Post by maria-c Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:18 am

It is true, it is necessary to look at her in DVD
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Post by labkomj7 Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:26 am

after seeing the movie, i'm 1 billion percent he's alive...the biggest clue was in the end and after the credits...Smile
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Post by illusionist Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 am

Harleyblonde wrote:

Chief Bratton doesn't retire until next year so I don't think this has any bearing on the hoax as he is at the age of retirement anyway. Unless he has been paid a large amount of money for services rendered.........
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NO. Chief Bratton's last day is this weekend, on Halloween.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rutten17-2009oct17,0,4077069.column

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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 am

Human_nature wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
suzzie wrote:
andrea_garay2005 wrote:I can't see the movie....does anyone know how can I order the DVD or something?

well inserted in the this is it album, along with the booklet, is a flyer stating that they will come up with the dvd/blue ray of the movie, loaded with never before seen extras, when? it said "soon

You can pre order the DVD right now on Itunes...I didnt see WHEN it was available for sale though...I think in time for Xmas

I can't see this on itunes After Seeing The Movie.. Confused ONly the CD, no DVD.... After Seeing The Movie.. Confused

Really? I got an email about it and I clicked the link and it pulls up in itunes.......the whole page.
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Post by Harleyblonde Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:35 am

illusionist wrote:
Harleyblonde wrote:

Chief Bratton doesn't retire until next year so I don't think this has any bearing on the hoax as he is at the age of retirement anyway. Unless he has been paid a large amount of money for services rendered.........
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NO. Chief Bratton's last day is this weekend, on Halloween.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rutten17-2009oct17,0,4077069.column

Sorry guys-you were right, its just I read somewhere he was retiring next year. He isn't retiring altogether though. Read the following;

Chief Bratton Leaves LAPD

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By Brian Doherty
August 7, 2009 10:12 AM


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LAPD Chief William Bratton makes a surprise move out of his office and out of town. His timing and his next step are both in question.

Kevin Roderick at L.A. Observed does a great job summing up the various points and questions raised by Bratton's abrupt decision. Among the facts, reactions, and speculations:
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Bratton is staying until Oct. 31 -- a week after the new LAPD headquarters opens -- then going to run a subsidiary focused on international police consulting for Altegrity Inc...
* Villaraigosa said Bratton's successor could come from within the LAPD but would have to emerge from a national search as the best candidate....
* Bratton....declared victory in professionalizing the department and in using the LAPD to ease racial tensions in Los Angeles, adding that "we are now a majority minority department, We look like and are the Los Angeles community."
* Villaraigosa... said...he didn't learn until last night that Bratton was leaving. The chief dodged a question from KFWB's Claudia Peschiutta about whether the discussions about the job began while [Michael] Cherkasky [who runs the company Bratton is going to work for] was still the LAPD's federal monitor. The consent decree was lifted in mid July.......</BLOCKQUOTE>
And on the Bratton succession:
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* Pseudonymous LAPD cop Jack Dunphy weighs in for the department's old school clique, writing at the National Review: "He leaves the LAPD in a far better condition than when he arrived, and for all my many criticisms of Bratton over the years, that fact simply cannot be ignored...But I will say this: It was the corrosive influence of identity politics that burdened the LAPD with the affable but hapless Willie Williams and the tyrannical Bernard Parks, under both of whom the department suffered badly. Such influences will no doubt come into play in the coming months, but I hope those charged with selecting the new chief will be wise enough to put them aside. May the best man (or woman) win."</BLOCKQUOTE>




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