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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:56 pm

MJYM from MJHD pointed out something very interesting about the Smooth Criminal scene from the movie. Read this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda and here is the original post from MJHD: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/this-is-it-movie-discussion/big-movie-clue-not-where-the-wild-things-are-though-spoiler/

Please do share your thoughts!
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:35 pm

It´s an interesting link, definitely!! Thanks for posting it over here, cause I´m not a member over there and sometimes they got good stuff.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:41 pm

hmmmm
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Post by Harleyblonde on Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:49 pm

Don't get what I am supposed to get!
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Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:50 pm

faked death-comes back fooled nazis claims estate...if I remember it all correctly.
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Post by Banessa on Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:57 pm

That is exactly how I remember it as well. Another thing, Humphrey Bogart, was also shown in the video if I am not mistaken and remember in Casablanca his love interest was supposed to have been married to Laslo(sp) who faked his death but then returned. (Give.in.to.me pointed me in this direction when it was said the restaurant where the family gathered after MJ's "burial" had posters of the movie Casablanca as decorations for that day only) More coincidences?
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Post by MJFoReVeRandAlways on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:01 pm

Banessa wrote:That is exactly how I remember it as well. Another thing, Humphrey Bogart, was also shown in the video if I am not mistaken and remember in Casablanca his love interest was supposed to have been married to Laslo(sp) who faked his death but then returned. (Give.in.to.me pointed me in this direction when it was said the restaurant where the family gathered after MJ's "burial" had posters of the movie Casablanca as decorations for that day only) More coincidences?

Wow! The man is a PURE GENIUS!
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Post by nlb on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:06 pm

This made me think of a review that I read earlier on MSNBC where it mentioned "Gilda" :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33497563/ns/entertainment-movies/

Below is a quote from the above link and article.
the “Smooth Criminal” clip, which edits Jackson into black-and-white
footage from film noir classics like “Gilda” and “In a Lonely Place”;


Synopsis for
In a Lonely Place (1950)



Dixon "Dix" Steele (Humphrey Bogart) is a talented but violence-prone
and washed up screenwriter. Needing money, he reluctantly takes the job
of adapting a trashy novel for the screen. Knowing that this is
obviously below him, instead of reading the thing he instead asks a
naive, celebrity-obsessed girl (who has read the book) he meets at a
restaurant to give him a synopsis, which she does enthusiasticly. He
sends her home with cab money and is abruptly woken up at 5:00 the next
morning by a police officer; the girl was found murdered, and Dix was
the last person to see her alive. Given his violent past and apathy
towards her death, he is the most logical suspect until his beautiful
neighbor Laurel Gray (Gloria Grahame) gives him an alibi (though the
audience is never quite sure if she is telling the truth or lies
because of her attraction to Dix). There is an undeniable connection
between Laurel and Dix, and despite her guarded demeanor and his deep
internal demons, the two fall madly in love and for a while they enjoy
the happiest time of their lives. Meanwhile, the murder investigation
continues and Dix is still the most likely suspect. Before long the
strain causes Laurel to doubt Dix's innocence, and in turn Dix's
violence is started up again--at one point he almost kills an innocent
bystander, and only stops by Laurel's plea. Though she loves Dix,
Laurel fears for her life and plans to leave him. When Dix finds out,
he flies into a rage and nearly strangles the woman he loves; the only
thing that stops him is a ringing telephone which confirms his
innocence. However, he walks away anything but a free man, having lost
forever the one person who could help him deal with his violence.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042593/
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Post by WanaBstartnSthn on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:10 pm

....damn, Michael Jackson is so f*ckin brillant
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Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:18 pm

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:29 pm

Ok, wait a sec. I have not seen the movie but dont care if I know about it so in SC in TII there is a clip of this movie Gilda, where the dude fakes his death and comes back to get revenge?

WITFH???? I LOVE THIS MAN!!!!!!!

I want him as my husband.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:52 pm

sorry I want him too
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:56 pm

Theres a movie critic who references the movie The Big Sleep in Smooth Criminal as well as Gilda

Read my thread. I dont normally force things on people but you all need to read this....read the review if you want but read the highlighted red and then the wikipedia link after

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-media-f4/movie-critic-reviews-this-is-it-t2963.htm#70963
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Post by marsheliamorgan on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:07 pm

FINALLY some good news cheers its about time HAHAHA
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Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:10 pm

Ok Jacksonolagist-I get the Gilda part-but maybe its just because the "Big Sleep" summary on Wikipedia is so long and I have been over 24 hrs now on no sleep-I am not gettig the big hit connection here with Sleep-Gilda was cool b/c someone is faking their death...Sleep has so many turns in it it seems-
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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:12 pm

@ the jacksonologist, i read the thread and that is crazy! people besides us are starting to pick up on this. who knows if the critic drew a parallel between the story of gilda and michael, but at least he mentioned it. this gives me so much to look forward to! i dunno what exactly, but it's a good feeling nonetheless!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:20 pm

@ yaya......there are refernces to 2 movies. Gilda and The Big Sleep. My thread talks about the big sleep. There is another thread on here about Gilda from MJHD..........Its totally insane!!
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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:26 pm

i just skimmed through a synopsis of "the big sleep" at IMDB but i don't get the correlation! maybe i'm just tired...but it did say something about solving complicated mysteries or something like that...
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:30 pm

Read about the big sleep on wikipdia.........maybe its just me, but it seems to tie in with Murray maybe? Im tired too! LOL
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Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:46 pm

ok -I apolagize for my last post where I asked what u were talking abotu-b/c i did see the part where the one character moves the "dead" character to another room-but there was so much goin on in that summary my mind cant handle it right now.
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Post by techdiva on Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:55 pm

I read the threads from MJHD and the Wikipedia of Gilda. The guy Mundson fakes his death and comes back and tells Gilda and Farrell they must die, then he is killed by Uncle Pio? I am excited about the part he is coming back. I am going to have to read about "The Big Sleep." That was a major clue. Good find!!!
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Post by yaya on Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:14 pm

ok, i read it. and yeah, there are tons of different story lines going on at once, but the part about moving the body did remind of me dr. murray!
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:22 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Ok, wait a sec. I have not seen the movie but dont care if I know about it so in SC in TII there is a clip of this movie Gilda, where the dude fakes his death and comes back to get revenge?

WITFH???? I LOVE THIS MAN!!!!!!!

I want him as my husband.

I want him too..so oh ....

Especially now, my boyfriend announced me a couple days ago that I'm now single ..so......(sorry for sharing my personal life, I guess I need to tell someone about that )
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:31 am

Your bf said that to you? Well you dont need him anyways...Im sorry hon.....Now you are free to chase MJ!!!
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:34 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Your bf said that to you? Well you dont need him anyways...Im sorry hon.....Now you are free to chase MJ!!!
yep !

And believe me I will look for MJ everywhere now He's the man of my dream
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:36 am

My EX is jealous of MJ LOL The man who dumped me for a much younger woman he "met" online is jealous! ROFL It's ok HN, you'll find someone deserving of you Wink
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:38 am

Human_nature wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Your bf said that to you? Well you dont need him anyways...Im sorry hon.....Now you are free to chase MJ!!!
yep !

And believe me I will look for MJ everywhere now He's the man of my dream


mine too!! Except my bf...he will have to do for now!!
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Post by yaya on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:41 am

Human_nature wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Ok, wait a sec. I have not seen the movie but dont care if I know about it so in SC in TII there is a clip of this movie Gilda, where the dude fakes his death and comes back to get revenge?

WITFH???? I LOVE THIS MAN!!!!!!!

I want him as my husband.

I want him too..so oh ....

Especially now, my boyfriend announced me a couple days ago that I'm now single ..so......(sorry for sharing my personal life, I guess I need to tell someone about that )

aww, i'm sorry! you will find someone better anyways...someone who can at least respect your love for michael
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:43 am

4evermichael71 wrote:My EX is jealous of MJ LOL The man who dumped me for a much younger woman he "met" online is jealous! ROFL It's ok HN, you'll find someone deserving of you

ha ha ..funny because my bf found a woman online. He knew her before but lost her ...then found her and since that day, I'm a single woman ...well....

Anyway, life is life ( sing with me now...life is life...la la lalalala)
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:45 am

lalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

la
la
lalalaaaaaaaaaa

la lal la lal laaa

Shamone!!!
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:46 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:lalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

la
la
lalalaaaaaaaaaa

la lal la lal laaa

Shamone!!!

lol

I love you, you're my family now
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:50 am

***hugs*** you said to sing with you so I did!!

Ya wanna sing some more?


LALALALALALALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LA

la

LA
LALALALALALALALAAAAA

OOOhhhhhh..ooo

YEAAAAA oooohhhh laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Man I suck! LOL
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:56 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:***hugs*** you said to sing with you so I did!!

Ya wanna sing some more?


LALALALALALALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LA

la

LA
LALALALALALALALAAAAA

OOOhhhhhh..ooo

YEAAAAA oooohhhh laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Man I suck! LOL



sorry I know it's out of topic...but .......

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Post by H'aime on Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:14 pm

Here's a quote from "Gilda": "You know Maria, I have a funny feeling that this is it."
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