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TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by Guest on Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:59 pm

PEOPLE THINK THAT ELVIS FAKED HIS DEATH AND LISA MARIE PRESLEY HAS STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT SHE WANTED TO "SAVE HIM"...SAVE HIM HOW? BY TEACHING HIM TO FAKE HIS DEATH LIKE HER FATHER DID??

HERE ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE "DEATH OF ELVIS"
There are many reasons to believe that Elvis Presley is dead. When the only arguments to believe otherwise come from crazed fans and supermarket tabloids, it is easy to dismiss the possibility that the King is still among us. However, the circumstances surrounding Elvis's alleged death are quite mysterious and beg closer attention. As it turns out, there are many concrete reasons to believe that the King is still alive.


The Gravesite.

For Starters, Elvis's name is spelled wrong on his headstone. Elvis's full name is Elvis Aron Presley, but on his grave his middle name is spelled incorrectly with two a's. His father would not have let this happen. When Elvis was born, his name was misspelled on his birth certificate, and his father went to great lengths to get the error corrected. The unique spelling of Elvis's name was important to the Presley family.
Elvis's current "resting place" is in between his father and his grandmother and not next to his mother where he had adamantly requested. It is doubtful that the people close to him would allow these things to happen. Elvis is a superstitious man - enough so that he wouldn't tempt fate by putting his real name on a tombstone, or violate the ground next to his mother until he was ready to be placed there for good.

Death Certificate.

Elvis was very vain, and he was embarrassed about his recent weight gain - an astonishing 50 pounds in the month before his so-called death. Even though he weighed about 250 pounds at the time of his "death," his death certificate lists him at a spry 170 pounds. The original death certificate disappeared, and the current death certificate is dated two months after his alleged death.

The Wax Body Theory.

This argument is very convincing when the facts are considered. Elvis's coffin required several pall bearers because it weighed 900 pounds. Attendants of the funeral reported that the air around the coffin was rather cool. It is suspected that the coffin contained an air conditioning unit to keep a wax body cool - a wax body that was a replica of the King designed to fool funeral-goers. And how did the Presley family get a 900 pound, custom made coffin ready for a funeral that was held on the day after his death? It takes a lot of time to build such an elaborate coffin.
And why have the funeral so quickly? Some speculate that the immediacy was intended to make it as difficult as possible for the people who were Elvis's biggest fans (heads of fan clubs, etc.) to attend the proceedings. It could be a concern that they might recognize the flaws in the wax replica.
Elvis was an 8th degree black belt whose hands were rough with calluses, yet the body in the coffin had hands that were soft and pudgy. The body in the coffin had a pug nose and arched eyebrows (unlike Elvis) and most importantly, one of the sideburns on the "corpse" was loose and falling off. A hairdresser later reported gluing the sideburn back on the body.

Unusual Behavior.

Two hours after Elvis's death was announced publicly, a man who reportedly looked remarkably like Elvis purchased a ticket for Buenos Aeries, paid in cash, and used the name John Burrows: the same name Elvis had used as an alias several times before.
Elvis had a few books that were considered to be his most prized possessions. He had a bible, several pharmaceutical books, books on death, and most importantly Chiro's Book of Numbers and The Autobiography of Yogi which I will explain more about later. After Elvis's death was announced, these books disappeared and were never recovered.
In the weeks preceding his alleged death, Elvis's actions were not those of a man who was about to embark on an extensive US tour. He ordered no new suits despite having gained 50 pounds since his last tour, and he bid "adios" at his last show in Hawaii. He had never done this before. Adios, like the French adieu, has the significance of being a final good-bye as opposed to an "I'll be seeing you on my next tour" kind of good-bye.
Others were intrigued by the King's decision to sign a lucrative TV deal with NBC that would cover the tour. It was unprecedented for a network to pay such a large amount up front, in cash, for such a deal. Many wonder why Elvis even agreed to the deal since his vanity discouraged him from making public appearances due to his obesity.
RCA showed uncanny (and unbelievable) foresight by mass producing millions of Elvis's current and previous recordings and merchandise. This is standard practice for an act that is about to go on tour, but the numbers in this case were beyond reasonable expectations. The announcement of Elvis's death caused record sales to skyrocket.
Elvis did other unusual things that created suspicion. First, he fired several employees that he had relied upon for a long time. Also, two days before his alleged death, Elvis telephoned a friend of his named Miss Foster. He told her that he wasn't planning on going on the upcoming tour. She asked him if he had canceled it, and he said that he had not. When she asked if he was ill, he said that he was fine, and that she should not ask any more questions or tell anyone anything, and that she should not believe anything she read. He told her that his troubles would all soon be over, and that he would call her in a few weeks. The author of Elvis Where Are You? writes that Miss Foster took a polygraph test regarding this story, and that she was not lying.
The day after Elvis's alleged death, a woman named Lucy De Barbon, a former lover of Elvis, received a single rose in the mail. The card indicated that the flower was from "El Lancelot." This had been her pet name for Elvis, and it was a name that no one else knew. Flowers can't be sent from beyond the grave. This was Elvis's way of letting her know that he was not dead, even though he didn't want to be found.

Chiro's Book of Numbers.

Elvis had a fascination with numerology - an interest he fed by reading Chiro's Book of Numbers. The theory that the King orchestrated his death is further supported when considering the significance of the date of his alleged death. The date in question is August 16,1977. By adding the numbers in the date, 8, 16, and 1977, you get 2001. This is the title of Elvis' favorite movie in which the hero plans his immortality in the bathroom. Elvis spent a considerable amount of time doing the same: planning his afterlife on the john. Elvis spent so much time in the bathroom that he had his toilet converted into a reclining comfy chair. Coincidentally, the bathroom is also where Elvis's body was reportedly found.
Given Elvis's religious affiliation (Christianity), he had a fascination with things that come in threes i.e. father, son, and holy ghost. The sum of the digits from his favorite film (2+0+0+1) is three. Let's consider the triad of the repetition of the number 24. 2001 (favorite film) less 1977 (year of death) is 24. The two numbers from the day of death (8/16) when added up equal 24. The sum of the digits in the year of death (1+9+7+7) also equals 24. That is 3 occurrences of the number 24 which is divisible by 3, and when divided by three the result, 8 has a perfect cubed root (2x2x2=Cool.
Elvis loved numerology, and when you consider the numeric significance of the date of his alleged death, it is clear that if indeed he did plan to fake his death, he could not have chosen a better date.

Motive.

Elvis had many reasons to fake his death. Elvis's life was in danger. He had recently lost $10,000,000 in an airplane/real estate deal with a California based organization called the "Fraternity" that had links to the Mafia. It is speculated that he corroborated with the government to expose the organized crime ring in exchange for protection - perhaps in the form of a new life and identity compliments of the witness relocation program.
In addition, Elvis was a prisoner of his own fame. He had many other reasons to leave his life behind. Because of his incredible popularity, he was the recipient of several death threats, and he was concerned about the safety of his wife and daughter. Sometimes when he wanted to leave Graceland, he would send out look-alikes to distract would be followers. Elvis was also known to ride in the trunk of someone else's car to avoid detection. Once, when he fell ill in Las Vegas, he couldn't get proper medical attention because the hospital was overwhelmed by fans.
At the time of his alleged death, Elvis was nearing the end of his career. He was 42, his hair was graying, he was grossly overweight, and his voice was starting to weaken. He was going down hill, and he was too proud to go out with a whimper. He would never want his fans to see him in such an unhealthy condition.
Elvis had shown a fascination with death on several occasions. In the days leading up to his alleged death he was reported to have visited funeral homes at odd hours of the night with close friends. Was he doing research? Elvis once faked his death by setting up an elaborate shooting in which a would be killer fired blanks at Elvis who had a blood pack which he discharged. It was Elvis's intention to see how the people closest to him would react to his death. Perhaps what he learned convinced him to do it for real.
Finally, one of Elvis' favorite books is the spiritual Autobiography of Yogi. One of the central themes of this book is the relinquishing of one's wealth and earthly possessions to achieve spiritual oneness. Elvis could do this, as well as address his other concerns of sanity and safety by faking his death and living in exile.

Means.

Elvis had the means to fake his own death. He is accused of destroying himself with drugs. In reality, Elvis was a pharmaceutical expert. He took a lot of drugs, but he knew what he was doing and was extremely careful. He knew what drugs he could self-administer to create a deathlike state. Further, Elvis's experience with the martial arts was such that he could slow his heart rate and breathing in order to feign death.
Elvis's manager, Colonel Tom Parker, had once created a new identity for himself. He came to this county as an illegal immigrant from Holland, but through various connections managed to create an elaborate identity complete with a passport, birth certificate, drivers license, and social security number. He would have known how to give Elvis a second life.
In addition to Elvis's ties to the government through his testimony against the Fraternity, Elvis was known to interact with the President of the United States. He was reported in government documents to use the name John Burrows as an alias when he wanted to travel. Some people believe that Elvis worked for the government as a drug agent. He did, after all have extensive contact with many people in the music business who, as we know, tend to dabble in illegal substances. (Remember Payola?.. ) And, of course, we must allow that Elvis's connections to the government gave him access to the Witness Relocation Program. If they can turn the Simpsons into the Thompsons, they can relocate anybody.

No New Music, Orion?

Many believe that Elvis couldn't have given up performing cold turkey. I imagine that after a while the desire to perform grew once he started his life in exile. The story of Orion supports the theory that Elvis attempted an incognito comeback.
Shortly after Elvis's death, a masked singer by the name of Orion emerged on the scene. He was big like Elvis, and he sang just like Elvis. Because of the mask, no one could tell his true identity. One fan described seeing Orion from near the stage. She claims that Orion left the stage between songs, and when he appeared moments later the sweat was gone from his armpits and back and she thought that his costume looked slightly different. After the song he left the stage, and the original Orion returned.
Another fan described how she rushed into a tour bus at an Orion show only to see two Orions in the back of the bus. She claimed that one ducked into the bathroom before she could get a good look at him, but he appeared to look like Elvis Presley.
What's even more remarkable is the fictional story called Orion that was written by Gail Brewer-Georgio about a legendary performer who had several identities and wanted to fake his death. The story was written and submitted to the William Morris Agency for publication consideration after Elvis's death and before the real Orion ever performed. As it turns out, there are many ways in which the real Orion mimicked the events as described in the book. For example, the performers' managers had the same name. Also, without knowing it, Brewer-Georgio wrote of events in Orion that had actually taken place in Elvis Presley's life. It was a case of life imitating art.

Picking up the Pieces.

In 1981, 20/20 did an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the alleged death of Elvis Presley. The investigative report was very convincing. Oddly enough, within two weeks of the report, the singer, Orion, disappeared and was never heard from again. The book, Orion disappeared from shelves across the country. It had been recalled by the publisher which was associated with the William Morris Agency. Incidentally, the William Morris Agency is the same agency that represented Elvis Presley.
I even tried to order a copy of the book, but was unable to. The woman at the book store said she couldn't tell me why.......
It seems that Elvis Presley is worth more dead than alive. By faking his death and relocating with a new identity, he is safe from his fans and the Fraternity, the government can make a solid case against the organized crime ring, and RCA, Elvis's family, and Elvis's management can all reap immense financial benefits from the attention.
That is... except for one benefit. No one has collected on his life insurance policy.


IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT ELVIS' ONLY CHILD MARRIED MICHAEL JACKSON..THE LATEST SUPERSTAR WITH A "DEATH" THAT JUST ISN'T ADDING UP. DID HE TAKE HER ADVICE? HOW EXACTLY DID SHE PLAN ON SAVING HIM? afro

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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:15 pm

You got this from the same site I've been on over and over to glean what I can from Elvis's death lol. I was picking out all the similarities to Mj's 'death', found the Orion connection and explored that too.

Orion is dead. His real name is Jimmy Ellis and he was shot in his shop and died years ago, in 1998 I think. I also thought Orion was Elvis in disguise because the voices are identical, it's uncanny.
Link: http://www.rockabilly.nl/artists/orion.htm

But yeah the rest of it about LM and MJ and the hoax ties in with what we've been saying, also there's the Barnum connection and similarities too.


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Post by summer+sc3nt on Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:16 pm

Can't think straight at the moment but I've got this mapped out... It's rather a long one.

Eerie parallels


Michael Jackson Shows Talent at an Early Age
In 1963, 5-year-old Michael performs in public for the first time, electrifying the audience at a Christmas recital. (Pictured: The Jackson 5 at the London Palladium in 1972.)
Photo: Doug McKenzie/Getty Images
Eki 30, 1972



Elvis Presley Shows Talent at an Early Age
In 1945, 10-year-old Elvis performs in public for the first time, winning $5 for singing "Old Shep" in a talent show at the state fair. (Pictured: Elvis with his parents in 1944.)
Photo: Hulton Archive/Getty Images
Jan 01, 1945



Michael Jackson Makes a Splash on 'Ed Sullivan'
In 1969, Michael chats with the host of the variety show, where he memorably performed "Who's Lovin' You."
Photo: CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images
Dec 14, 1969



Elvis Presley Makes a Splash on 'Ed Sullivan'
In 1956, Elvis chats with the host of the variety show, where he memorably performed "Don't Be Cruel."
Photo: CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images
Oct 28, 1956



Michael Jackson Drives Teenagers Wild
Excited fans of the King of Pop cheer his arrival in London, 1985.
Photo: Dave Hogan/Getty Images
janv. 01, 1985



Elvis Presley Drives Teenagers Wild
Excited fans of the King scream during an appearance at the Florida Theatre, 1956.
Photo: Robert W. Kelley./Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images
août 01, 1956



Michael Jackson's Signature Moves
The King of Pop did the moonwalk.
Photo: Frank Micelotta/Getty Images
sept. 07, 2001



Elvis Presley's Signature Moves
Presley swiveled his hips.
Photo: CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images
oct. 28, 1956



Michael Jackson Had Neverland
Michael Jackson poses for the June 1993 cover of LIFE at his Neverland Ranch, where he kept several exotic pets, built a mini-amusement park, and hosted young guests.
Photo: Harry Benson
juin 25, 2009



Elvis Presley Had Graceland
A peek inside the "Jungle Room" of Graceland, where Elvis Presley kept countless novelty items, built ornate gates, and enjoyed fried peanut-butter- and-banana sandwiches.
Photo:
juin 26, 2009



Elvis Marries Priscilla
Presley and his bride Priscilla Beaulieu are pictured after their Las Vegas wedding, May 1, 1967. They divorced after six years of marriage.
Photo: Keystone/Getty Images
mai 01, 1967



Michael Marries Lisa Marie
Jackson and his wife -- Elvis' daughter Lisa Marie Presley -- arrive at Budapest's airport in 1994. They divorced after less than two years of marriage.
Photo: AFP/AFP/Getty Images
Haz 06, 1994



Michael Jackson Meets the President
In 1984, Ronald Reagan presents Michael Jackson with a presidential commendation for using "Beat It" in a campaign against teen drunk driving. "Well, isn't this a thriller?" joked Reagan.
Photo: Jack Kightlinger/ Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images
mai 14, 1984



Elvis Presley Meets the President
In 1970, Presley shakes hands with Richard M. Nixon, where they reportedly talked about their shared contempt for drugs.
Photo: National Archives/Getty Images
©️c. 21, 1970



Michael Jackson Had a Sparkly Style
Michael Jackson, accompanied by beautiful date Brooke Shields, wears an ornate outfit and aviator-style glasses in 1984.
Photo: Ron Galella/WireImage
Åžub 28, 1984



Elvis Presley Had a Sparkly Style
Elvis Presley, accompanied by beautiful date Linda Thompson, wears an ornate outfit and aviator-style glasses in 1976.
Photo: Tom Wargacki/WireImage
mrt 21, 1976



The King of Rock and Roll Dies at a Young Age
A newspaper reports the Aug. 16, 1977, death of Elvis Presley, apparently of a heart attack brought on by years of painkiller abuse. He was 42.
Photo: Blank Archives/Getty Images
8 17, 1977



The King of Pop Dies at a Young Age
A newspaper reports the June 25, 2009, death of Michael Jackson, apparently of cardiac arrest that may have been brought on by painkillers. He was 50.
Photo: New York Post
juin 26, 2009



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Michael Jackson Shows Talent at an Early Age
In 1963, 5-year-old Michael performs in public for the first time, electrifying the audience at a Christmas recital. (Pictured: The Jackson 5 at the London Palladium in 1972.)
Photo: Doug McKenzie/Getty Images
Eki 30, 1972



Elvis Presley Shows Talent at an Early Age
In 1945, 10-year-old Elvis performs in public for the first time, winning $5 for singing "Old Shep" in a talent show at the state fair. (Pictured: Elvis with his parents in 1944.)
Photo: Hulton Archive/Getty Images
Jan 01, 1945



Michael Jackson Makes a Splash on 'Ed Sullivan'
In 1969, Michael chats with the host of the variety show, where he memorably performed "Who's Lovin' You."
Photo: CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images
Dec 14, 1969



Elvis Presley Makes a Splash on 'Ed Sullivan'
In 1956, Elvis chats with the host of the variety show, where he memorably performed "Don't Be Cruel."
Photo: CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images
Oct 28, 1956



Michael Jackson Drives Teenagers Wild
Excited fans of the King of Pop cheer his arrival in London, 1985.
Photo: Dave Hogan/Getty Images
janv. 01, 1985



Elvis Presley Drives Teenagers Wild
Excited fans of the King scream during an appearance at the Florida Theatre, 1956.
Photo: Robert W. Kelley./Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images
août 01, 1956



Michael Jackson's Signature Moves
The King of Pop did the moonwalk.
Photo: Frank Micelotta/Getty Images
sept. 07, 2001



Elvis Presley's Signature Moves
Presley swiveled his hips.
Photo: CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images
oct. 28, 1956



Michael Jackson Had Neverland
Michael Jackson poses for the June 1993 cover of LIFE at his Neverland Ranch, where he kept several exotic pets, built a mini-amusement park, and hosted young guests.
Photo: Harry Benson
juin 25, 2009



Elvis Presley Had Graceland
A peek inside the "Jungle Room" of Graceland, where Elvis Presley kept countless novelty items, built ornate gates, and enjoyed fried peanut-butter- and-banana sandwiches.
Photo:
juin 26, 2009



Elvis Marries Priscilla
Presley and his bride Priscilla Beaulieu are pictured after their Las Vegas wedding, May 1, 1967. They divorced after six years of marriage.
Photo: Keystone/Getty Images
mai 01, 1967



Michael Marries Lisa Marie
Jackson and his wife -- Elvis' daughter Lisa Marie Presley -- arrive at Budapest's airport in 1994. They divorced after less than two years of marriage.
Photo: AFP/AFP/Getty Images
Haz 06, 1994



Michael Jackson Meets the President
In 1984, Ronald Reagan presents Michael Jackson with a presidential commendation for using "Beat It" in a campaign against teen drunk driving. "Well, isn't this a thriller?" joked Reagan.
Photo: Jack Kightlinger/ Time & Life Pictures/Getty Images
mai 14, 1984



Elvis Presley Meets the President
In 1970, Presley shakes hands with Richard M. Nixon, where they reportedly talked about their shared contempt for drugs.
Photo: National Archives/Getty Images
©️c. 21, 1970



Michael Jackson Had a Sparkly Style
Michael Jackson, accompanied by beautiful date Brooke Shields, wears an ornate outfit and aviator-style glasses in 1984.
Photo: Ron Galella/WireImage
Åžub 28, 1984



Elvis Presley Had a Sparkly Style
Elvis Presley, accompanied by beautiful date Linda Thompson, wears an ornate outfit and aviator-style glasses in 1976.
Photo: Tom Wargacki/WireImage
mrt 21, 1976



The King of Rock and Roll Dies at a Young Age
A newspaper reports the Aug. 16, 1977, death of Elvis Presley, apparently of a heart attack brought on by years of painkiller abuse. He was 42.
Photo: Blank Archives/Getty Images
1977



The King of Pop Dies at a Young Age
A newspaper reports the June 25, 2009, death of Michael Jackson, apparently of cardiac arrest that may have been brought on by painkillers. He was 50.
Photo: New York Post
2009


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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:25 pm

It's not just their lives which are similar, but their 'deaths' too - they near mirror each other.
Alleged drug use/addiction, cardiac arrest, the build-up to a huge tour, dying at home, the doctors, the 'death' photos looking like their younger selves not their current selves, Lisa Marie and Paris putting bracelets/necklaces on the body, huge heavy coffins, a cover-up by the coroners/authorities and so on
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:46 pm

wow, Elvis is before my time so I never really knew too much about his death. Those similarities are crazy...and sad, because people never heard from Elvis again.
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Post by PinkLizard on Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:59 pm

As a life long believer that Elvis is alive I'm not sure I could cope with not knowing the TRUTH about Michael. I really feel that this time we are going to need answers. I have always felt drawn towards Michael, as I did towards Elvis and his story, I was only little when Elvis died but I have always searched for answers. I too think that the similarities are deliberate in some way and LM did find a way to help Michael Smile I don't need Michael to come back but I do need to know he's safe and happy. Don't know what I will do if the questions we have are never answered..................
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:06 pm

Damn. I was 7 yrs old when Elvis died. I actually remember that day....thats crazy stuff.

When LM said she wanted to save him. Not sure if that meant she wanted to save him from drugs or to save him from himself. ButIve heard rumors that he got with her to have her tell him how her father faked his death, cus apparently she knows every last detail and MJ wanted to know ALL about it.
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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:06 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:wow, Elvis is before my time so I never really knew too much about his death. Those similarities are crazy...and sad, because people never heard from Elvis again.
Elvis was also before my time but I have always loved his music (I love the classics more than the modern cr@p that is out nowadays). I'm an 80s baby which puts me squarely in the middle of all the good music years lol.
I only researched into Elvis's death after Michael's 'death' and thats where I picked up on it. I posted on the original MJHD but I think it's been deleted.
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Post by doonbuggy on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:07 pm

They both used the phrase final curtain too!
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Post by yaya on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:10 pm

elvis never came back and all of his fans who believed he was still alive never got the closure they needed. i surely hope the same thing doesn't happen with michael. he can decide not to ever come back, and i'm ok with that...but that's different from leaving us wondering and searching for the truth 30 years from now. in spite of all the eerie similarites which i find intriguing, i pray that michael's story differs from elvis' in that one way!
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:15 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:It's not just their lives which are similar, but their 'deaths' too - they near mirror each other.
Alleged drug use/addiction, cardiac arrest, the build-up to a huge tour, dying at home, the doctors, the 'death' photos looking like their younger selves not their current selves, Lisa Marie and Paris putting bracelets/necklaces on the body, huge heavy coffins, a cover-up by the coroners/authorities and so on

Too much of a coincidence to be JUST a coincidence... Suspect
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Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:18 pm

D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!
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Post by Baby on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:32 pm

Ermm.. maybe you guys would like to watch " Elvis, Is he alive? Shocking Evidence" videos and see what we can gt frm there

The YouTude Links :

1/5 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mkZUBdtu5A

2/5 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2sUZ16hpmU

3/5 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxz20BJBsKA

4/5 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhTeo7CEod8

5/5 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glVGneYyJ44
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:35 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!
haha..me too. F'd up stuff I tell ya!
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Post by neverlandsfairy on Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:07 pm

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Post by Human_nature on Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:22 pm

hehe, I watched and read many things about Elvis too lol !

And also JFK, John Lennon...ect...
when something is weird...I'm always curious.

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Post by jpresley on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:13 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Damn. I was 7 yrs old when Elvis died. I actually remember that day....thats crazy stuff.

When LM said she wanted to save him. Not sure if that meant she wanted to save him from drugs or to save him from himself. ButIve heard rumors that he got with her to have her tell him how her father faked his death, cus apparently she knows every last detail and MJ wanted to know ALL about it.

I was 5 years old when Elvis died. I've always been freaking nuts (yes, my obsession habits go back that far geek ) about him and when they announced his death on the PA at my school, my kindergarten class was let out early. We lived right across the street from my elementary school (my folks still live there) and my mom always stood outside by the front door to watch me walk home. That day, I was completely devasted and crying and running toward my house when I saw my mom coming up the sidewalk right outside my school. She knew I was going to be freaked and came to get me. She carried me home and we listened to Elvis records the rest of that day.

While I have often heard the rumours associated w/ Elvis' death and really bought into them as a teenager, as an adult I haven't given them a whole lot of credence. I really thought Elvis was in too bad a shape to pull something like this off. But, there are some striking parellels between the two. And, I wasn't aware of the sour real estate deal w/ the mafia, so that's definitely interesting. Of the two, I think Michael was the most persecuted, at least in the press. Sure, everyone makes fat jokes about Elvis (which TOTALLY PISSES ME OFF), but that was really only the last couple years of his life. Since Michael's appearance so drastically changed over his entire lifetime, he IMO certainly had every reason to want to disappear. Factor in his love of disguises and practical jokes our belief this is all a hoax is certainly plausible. But, as someone else said on this thread, I don't think I can stand never knowing for sure. Not that I think he should come back and perform, but I would sure like to know that he was safe and happy and that he couldn't be hurt anymore.
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Post by Willa on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:16 pm

Wouldn't it be a hoot if they came back together???

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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:16 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!


in weird way , me too .. wow .. this so much too take in ...... ironic but funny.
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Post by Silence on Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:27 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!

no need to... elvis would be mid 70s now and could have died by natural causes

btw

how do we know that mj did not die in the days since june 25th ??????????
he could've been ill and wanted to see the reaction of us all before passing away for real ?

jut a thought
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:49 pm

Wow, that was an amazing post and as long as it was I really enjoyed reading it!

It ceratinly is freaky how many similiarties they are between the two. Also if reports that LMP knew how Elvis faked his death are true, well she would be the perfect persn to "save" Michael.

I also am going to be obsessing about Elvis now. As of this wasn't bad enough!!!
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:51 pm

Silence wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!

no need to... elvis would be mid 70s now and could have died by natural causes

btw

how do we know that mj did not die in the days since june 25th ??????????
he could've been ill and wanted to see the reaction of us all before passing away for real ?

jut a thought

I think that comment will singlehandley kill everyone's hope!
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Post by Silence on Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:16 pm

Rachel wrote:

I think that comment will singlehandley kill everyone's hope!

Well I guess if you believed in the Elvis hoax for the last 32 years chances become smaller with eery passing year
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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by annieisnotokey on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:00 pm

Silence wrote:

how do we know that mj did not die in the days since june 25th ??????????
he could've been ill and wanted to see the reaction of us all before passing away for real ?

jut a thought

I'm not masochistic enough to entertain that thought. geek
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Post by MJSmile4Us on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:39 pm

it may be nothing and Idk whether the media is cooking up stories to make us see all of these and more of the correlation between Michael and Elvis's life. I am not so sure whether this is true as the time of Elvis' passing was b4 I was born ( so plase do correct me if I am wrong Smile )but according to one comment on the site, Elvis Presley Junior from Germany is the biological son of Elvis whom he had with a woman called Angelique Delores Pettyjohn when he was filming Blue Hawaii. And shortly after Micahel's death, we hear that Omar is the biological son of Micahel's?

http://my.whiotv.com/_Elvis-Aaron-Presley-Jr-7-11-2009/video/719424/6688.html?b=
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Post by curiousgirl on Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:42 am

very very similiar similarities , which BTW brings me to this video, hmm STRANGER IN MOSCOW?
ELVIS VERSION STRANGER IN THE CROWD, -- heres a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4C9BPdzbVo

i found it inetersting Smile
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Post by BuBBLes on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:31 am

....there are really many similarities between elvis and michael...both life and 'death'....
and i also agree that there are too many coincidences for them to be just coincidences....
i believed that lisa-marie might have helped michael by giving him info on how elvis did it...that kinda explains why the circumstances surrounding michael's death is similar with elvis...
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:40 am

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Post by Another.Part.Of.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:44 pm

Silence wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!

no need to... elvis would be mid 70s now and could have died by natural causes

btw

how do we know that mj did not die in the days since june 25th ??????????
he could've been ill and wanted to see the reaction of us all before passing away for real ?

jut a thought
A bit like PT Barnum you mean - he had his obituary published before his death so he could read it himself before he died.
If Michael died in the days after 25/7, then who/what did they do an autopsy on in June 26, and again on June 27?
The world was still trying to come to grips with his 'death' 2-3 days later so I would imagine that he would have wanted to watch the whole outpouring of grief rather than a few hours in the USA on the 25th before kicking the bucket as it were considering it was almost midnight in Europe by the time people heard.

I don't entertain that thought (although I fully respect others' choice to believe that idea) because it still doesn't add up in any way. If that idea worked there wouldn't be any holes and it would all make sense, as it is it doesn't make any sense and there are more holes and questions than anything else.
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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by jpresley on Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:14 pm

Another.Part.Of.Me wrote:
Silence wrote:
annieisnotokey wrote:D*mn you all !!! (just a joke!!!)

Now I will not only obsess about MJ, but about Elvis too!!! lol!

no need to... elvis would be mid 70s now and could have died by natural causes

btw

how do we know that mj did not die in the days since june 25th ??????????
he could've been ill and wanted to see the reaction of us all before passing away for real ?

jut a thought
A bit like PT Barnum you mean - he had his obituary published before his death so he could read it himself before he died.
If Michael died in the days after 25/7, then who/what did they do an autopsy on in June 26, and again on June 27?
The world was still trying to come to grips with his 'death' 2-3 days later so I would imagine that he would have wanted to watch the whole outpouring of grief rather than a few hours in the USA on the 25th before kicking the bucket as it were considering it was almost midnight in Europe by the time people heard.

I don't entertain that thought (although I fully respect others' choice to believe that idea) because it still doesn't add up in any way. If that idea worked there wouldn't be any holes and it would all make sense, as it is it doesn't make any sense and there are more holes and questions than anything else.

100% agree! The circumstances since then wouldn't have been so flippin weird.
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Post by Christiana on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:35 am

Hey, all...I'm new and jumping in.

I was 10 when Elvis died...and have always been an Elvis fan. Still remember August 16, 1977 like it was yesterday! I cried and cried that day. I never believed Elvis hoaxed his death though. The rumors about that did not get big until the late 80's, around the 10th anniversary of his death. It all boggled my mind at that time and I followed it very closely, because I couldn't understand why anyone would think he would hoax his death. I actually decided at one point that I was going to write a book to refute the rumors, most of which started as a result of the book "Is Elvis Alive?", by Gail Brewer Giorgio.

I spent almost 2 years researching and collecting information and evidence to refute the entire hoax. I wrote to Giorgio many times...she had a very active following, wrote more books, put out newsletters and videos and such. I still have all my information, packed up in boxes somewhere. Seemed pointless to plan a book once the story faded into the background after awhile, so I just packed it all away.

I'll tell you though that I never found a single thing that made me believe Elvis was alive...and most of the info out there came from Giorgio. I will also say that in my experience, Giorgio had a habit of twisting information, taking things out of context, and whatever else she needed to do to sell her story (she did make money off of everything she did). There is not one single bit of "proof" from that entire theory that I buy into--never have and never will.

That being said, I do think that whole scenario could have served as inspiration for an MJ hoax, for sure, because there are a lot of parallels. After all, the Elvis death hoax does not have to be real for MJ's to be real. Just my thoughts on this.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:42 am

Christiana wrote:I'll tell you though that I never found a single thing that made me believe Elvis was alive...and most of the info out there came from Giorgio. I will also say that in my experience, Giorgio had a habit of twisting information, taking things out of context, and whatever else she needed to do to sell her story (she did make money off of everything she did). There is not one single bit of "proof" from that entire theory that I buy into--never have and never will.

And what about MJ's death? From what you've read and seen so far and according to your previous experience, do you consider there are any clues / signs / pieces of evidence that indicate that he -in fact- faked his death?
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Post by Christiana on Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:11 am

My biggest issue with the story of MJ's "death" lies in the many inconsistencies...the many versions of the story of what happened to MJ (that also seem to keep constantly changing!)...the disappearing Dr. Murray (how and why has no one seen him since June 25th, except for that strange video?!)...the incredibly postponed burial...the questionable ambulance photo...things like that.

I'm not one to believe that every single little thing is some sort of clue. I'm a naturally skeptical person anyway, so things that are too speculative or out there don't count as "evidence" of a hoax to me (I have never bought into the Cassandra/Derek thing, theories about Dave Dave, supposed clues in numbers etc). I like to look at things more logically and critically, and try not to just accept something as a fact or evidence, just because it fits in with my beliefs.

And at the end of the day, I can't say to myself that I know anything with any real certainty. I can't prove anything at all (if only I could). But I believe what I believe, so until someone or something proves me wrong, I just continue to look for evidence...and I hope to find some here. And the fact that I am naturally skeptical, I feel, kind of tells me I'm on the right track. I'm not generally a gullible person, or easily fooled. I'd hate to find out at some point that I'm wrong about all this! I'd feel pretty stupid.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:43 am

Christiana wrote:My biggest issue with the story of MJ's "death" lies in the many inconsistencies...the many versions of the story of what happened to MJ (that also seem to keep constantly changing!)...the disappearing Dr. Murray (how and why has no one seen him since June 25th, except for that strange video?!)...the incredibly postponed burial...the questionable ambulance photo...things like that.

I'm not one to believe that every single little thing is some sort of clue. I'm a naturally skeptical person anyway, so things that are too speculative or out there don't count as "evidence" of a hoax to me (I have never bought into the Cassandra/Derek thing, theories about Dave Dave, supposed clues in numbers etc). I like to look at things more logically and critically, and try not to just accept something as a fact or evidence, just because it fits in with my beliefs.


Thanks for your reply.
We are on the same page. I'm more interested in studying the inconsistencies than believing in cryptic clues, mysterious informers & signs, etc.
I guess only time will tell.
Unless I singlehandedly find MJ first!
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Post by neverlandprincess on Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:52 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:
Christiana wrote:My biggest issue with the story of MJ's "death" lies in the many inconsistencies...the many versions of the story of what happened to MJ (that also seem to keep constantly changing!)...the disappearing Dr. Murray (how and why has no one seen him since June 25th, except for that strange video?!)...the incredibly postponed burial...the questionable ambulance photo...things like that.

I'm not one to believe that every single little thing is some sort of clue. I'm a naturally skeptical person anyway, so things that are too speculative or out there don't count as "evidence" of a hoax to me (I have never bought into the Cassandra/Derek thing, theories about Dave Dave, supposed clues in numbers etc). I like to look at things more logically and critically, and try not to just accept something as a fact or evidence, just because it fits in with my beliefs.


Thanks for your reply.
We are on the same page. I'm more interested in studying the inconsistencies than believing in cryptic clues, mysterious informers & signs, etc.
I guess only time will tell.
Unless I singlehandedly find MJ first!

Well if you single handedly find Mj first,you can singlehandedly bring him to my house..
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Post by neverlandprincess on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:00 pm

O wow-everone on erath would have a real cardiac arrest if Elvis and Mj came back. The clock would just stop on earth.

Honestly though lisa and Priscilla talk about Elvis the same way they talk about MJ (narcissist/love themselves etc.) Also if MJ got with her to find out how Elvis did it,then I would think he would have done the same for Lisa that Elvis did with Priscilla. Elvis sent her to business school and left her in charge of his estate and thats why Elvis' crap manager was fired and Elvis image,name and shadow are licensed. I have been waiting on Katherine to do something in that nature-because right now there is alot of crap on ebay with MJs name on it,
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Post by Christiana on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:34 pm

neverlandprincess wrote:O wow-everone on erath would have a real cardiac arrest if Elvis and Mj came back. The clock would just stop on earth.

Honestly though lisa and Priscilla talk about Elvis the same way they talk about MJ (narcissist/love themselves etc.) Also if MJ got with her to find out how Elvis did it,then I would think he would have done the same for Lisa that Elvis did with Priscilla. Elvis sent her to business school and left her in charge of his estate and thats why Elvis' crap manager was fired and Elvis image,name and shadow are licensed. I have been waiting on Katherine to do something in that nature-because right now there is alot of crap on ebay with MJs name on it,

Actually, Elvis' will left his father, Vernon, as executor in charge of the estate. Priscilla did not get any sort of control of the estate until after Vernon died in 1979--and even then, she became a co-executor, along with a bank, and Elvis' former accountant. And Colonel Parker (his manager) stopped being his manager when Elvis died...because Elvis died. Yeah, I'm sure they weren't sorry to be rid of him and his 50%+ take of Elvis' earnings, but they didn't need a manager since Elvis had died.

Sorry to ramble on...as I said previously...I've done lots of research on this stuff.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:40 pm

sorry my bad-what I learned about Elvis came from my mom and I just dont argue with her about Elvis knowledge because it is about as effective as her arguing with me about Mj stuff.
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Post by tyffanny on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:10 pm

I dont want people to get mad at me but I always taught that MJ was obsess with Elvis! Seems like he wanted to surpass him always and that he married LM just to say `hey i married your precious little girl you fat king`lol
Also I think it is impossible that Elvis was not an idol of Mj (fred astaire , james brown..ect) comon elvis was truly great and broke barrior just as MJ , why he was not appreciate his talent? He always talked about elvis like a rival!
Im sure he fake his death just to surpass Elvis and do it for real! LOL

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Post by Human_nature on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:19 pm

tyffanny wrote:I dont want people to get mad at me but I always taught that MJ was obsess with Elvis! Seems like he wanted to surpass him always and that he married LM just to say `hey i married your precious little girl you fat king`lol
Also I think it is impossible that Elvis was not an idol of Mj (fred astaire , james brown..ect) comon elvis was truly great and broke barrior just as MJ , why he was not appreciate his talent? He always talked about elvis like a rival!
Im sure he fake his death just to surpass Elvis and do it for real! LOL

I never heard Michael talk about Elvis like he was a rival....
And it's not very nice to think like that.... "Hey I married your precious little girl you fat king"

Elvis was great, Michael too. I think Michael admired Elvis alot.

My opinion as well...

Peace.
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Post by tyffanny on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:26 pm

Im saying this cause when Mike wanted to give exemple , he used Elvis a lot as a target .... exemple: in the martin bashir interview he asked about surgery and Mike said that elvis also had a surgery on his nose!!!!! Why elvis?
But please dont get me wrong , im completly devoted to MJ (i think this is cute IF he was jealous of elvis LOL and he is wayyyyyy BETTER than Elvis !

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Post by tyffanny on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:27 pm

I swear Michael NEVER mentioned he admire elvis ...

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Post by Human_nature on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:33 pm

They have huge success, both. So Michael compare himself to Elvis in Bashir interview, probably because people didn't wrote much about Elvis and plastic surgery. For Michael it was different....
I think he really admired Elvis. I don't think he was jealous.

I love Elvis & Michael.

But please, no need to call Elvis a fat king ok Wink It's how complex begin for people.

yes Elvis was not thin at the end, but this is really important ? I don't think ok Wink

L.O.V.E Smile
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Post by tyffanny on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:38 pm

You are absolutly right Humannature I didnt want to say he was fat ...lol
What i want was to sound sarcastic so you guys can undersatnd what i mean LOL
COMON THEY ARE MY TWO KING !! (still i prefer MJ )

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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:42 pm

I kinda thought this forgive me if this sounds bad - I think MJ married LMP for getting the "inside" on Elvis Presley - nothing gets you more closer to your rival than marrying the King of Rock 'N' Roll's Daughter! she has all the inside on her own father - His Mannerisms down to everyday things what Elvis has done ... He soaked that info & have made him invincible to the music world as the King Of Music .... Think about that .......
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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:44 pm

I don't think he was jealous...only admired him. How can you be jealous of a dead person? Maybe he was first interested in Lisa Marie because she was Elvis' daughter, but I think they really loved each other.
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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by iMISSYOUMJ on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:45 pm

tyffanny wrote:Im saying this cause when Mike wanted to give exemple , he used Elvis a lot as a target .... exemple: in the martin bashir interview he asked about surgery and Mike said that elvis also had a surgery on his nose!!!!! Why elvis?
But please dont get me wrong , im completly devoted to MJ (i think this is cute IF he was jealous of elvis LOL and he is wayyyyyy BETTER than Elvis !

Had Elvis went for surgery to his nose?
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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by Human_nature on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:46 pm

I think she married him because she wanted him in Scientology. He didn't jump in that cult, so it was the end.

Scientology have to recruit members, espcially celebrities with alot of money.

think about it Wink
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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by tyffanny on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:55 pm

LOL Michael said that Elvis had a nose surgery
(answer to human nature ..)

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Re: TO FIGURE OUT THIS HOAX YOU MUST GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING...ELVIS

Post by tyffanny on Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:01 pm

iMISSYOUMJ wrote:
tyffanny wrote:Im saying this cause when Mike wanted to give exemple , he used Elvis a lot as a target .... exemple: in the martin bashir interview he asked about surgery and Mike said that elvis also had a surgery on his nose!!!!! Why elvis?
But please dont get me wrong , im completly devoted to MJ (i think this is cute IF he was jealous of elvis LOL and he is wayyyyyy BETTER than Elvis !

Had Elvis went for surgery to his nose?
Sorry I wanted to answer you lol
Yes MJ said that Elvis had a nose surgery

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