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Post by lonelynation on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:03 pm

Hello everyone.
I thought I would create this thread to explore the idea as to how those insisting he is dead would explain all these coincidences.
I figured if we discuss how it is that the police/those involved in the case explained the events that happened prior to his death, during, and after, we could better see the larger picture and how find the real loop holes in their explanations.
I thought it'd be good to just go over all the reports/facts to see the inconsistencies and have it all in one thread.
I'll update the topics if you guys post anything Smile


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Re: June 25th - Overview of Reports + Facts

Post by jenn77 on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:21 pm

That is an excellent idea, because I know I find I got lost in all this information and I am not sure 100% anymore what is fact and fiction anymore.

Here is what I have to say, when I heard the news of Michael's death on TV, I had an extremely strong gut feeling that it was not possible but had nothing to go on. Then I started finding there were way too much coverage of a thousand things regarding Michael that didn't have much to do with what was happening. I mean if it is an open and shut case, it is simple no fussing about every stupid little details that were irrelevant anyway and the family immediately goes in to morning. So at 1st I thought it was a murder and thought right away sony. So I started digging to see if I could find anything that would have been a motive and what I had come up with is that is was over the beattles catalog. However, the more I read and stumbled across things I thought WOW nothing really adds up and everyone in Michael's entourage are fighting and disagreeing about all kinds of stuff and made themselves all look fishy. So my bf told me that he didn't think I was the only one suspicious and suggested I check it out on the net and that is when I found all these forums.

So this is my recap of how I became suspicious about the whole thing.
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Re: June 25th - Overview of Reports + Facts

Post by lonelynation on Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:25 pm

Autopsy

Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/10/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-reveals-star-was-healthy-prior-to-death/

Michael Jackson was for the most part healthy at the time of his death on June 25th, the Associated Press writes after obtaining a copy of the still-unreleased autopsy report. Despite rumors that Jackson appeared gaunt and was “listless” at rehearsals in the weeks leading up to his death, the autopsy findings reveal that Jackson weighed 136 pounds, within the normal range of a 5′ 9” man, and that “his heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup,” the AP writes. Jackson’s other major organs were also found to be normal.

The autopsy found that Jackson did suffer from a condition that made his lungs “chronically inflamed and had reduced capacity that might have left him short of breath,” but this didn’t contribute to the singer’s death. Furthermore, Jackson also had arthritis in his lower back and fingers, plus some plaque buildup in his lower legs. The autopsy did uncover needle marks all over Jackson’s arms, scarring on his face and neck and tattooed eyebrows and lips. Jackson’s ribs were crack and chest bruised from attempts to resuscitate the singer.

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Source: http://www.inquisitr.com/27642/michael-jackson-autopsy-leaked/

According to the leaked document Michael was literally skin and bones having barely eaten and the contents of his stomach showing only pills, although they don’t say what kind. His hips, shoulders and thighs supposedly were riddled with needle wounds which is believed to be a result of daily injections of narcotic painkillers.

Further details in the report supposedly point to a wig wearing anorexic body weighing about 112 pound. Additionally the body had several broken ribs from the rescuers attempts to resuscitate him. There is also suggestions that four injection sites were found above or near to his heart.

Three of the injections had penetrated the heart wall — causing damage — but a fourth missed and hit one of the 50-year-old star’s ribs.

The autopsy also found unexplained BRUISING on Jackson’s knees and on the fronts of both shins. And there were CUTS on his back, indicating a recent fall.

The King of Pop’s once handsome face bore a network of plastic surgery scars, while the bridge to his nose had vanished and its right side had partially collapsed.

As inquiries into the tragedy last night focused on the star’s personal physician Dr Conrad Murray, a source close to the Jackson entourage said: “Michael’s family and fans will be horrified when they realise the appalling state he was in.

“He was skin and bone, his hair had fallen out and had been eating nothing but pills when he died. Injection marks all over his body and the disfigurement caused by years of plastic surgery show he’d been in terminal decline for years."

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KING: Yes. Now, there are reports, doctor, that his body was riddled — I want to get this right — with needle marks when he died.

Did you see any evidence of needle marks on this visit?

KLEIN: Well, I didn’t examine his entire body.

KING: Had you seen any in prior exams?

KLEIN: No, I never saw needle marks on his body. I mean I never saw them. But I could tell you— but I didn’t see a riddling of anything. People sound like he looked like he was made of, you know, there were holes in him. And there weren’t anything like that.

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Random bits...

Source: http://stupidcelebrities.net/2009/06/29/michael-jackson-autopsy-results-leaked-shocking-results/

Michael Jackson had recently developed stage fright and was terrified at the thought of performing his upcoming shows.
Sources close to Jackson said he actually believed he would be killed if he pulled out of doing the concerts.



Source: http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jacksons-second-autopsy-why-would-it-be-needed

This second autopsy will be performed by an independent doctor that is hired by the family, and although it is harder to gain results the second time around, because the body has already been through a procedure, sometimes it is necessary to obtain more information and be more focued.
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Re: June 25th - Overview of Reports + Facts

Post by lonelynation on Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:43 pm

Toxicology

Source: http://stupidcelebrities.net/2009/08/28/la-coroner-rules-michael-jackson-death-a-homicide-killed-by-prescription-drug-cocktail/

The Los Angeles County Coroner has ruled pop star Michael Jackson’s death a homicide. Read more the coroner’s findings below.
The LA Coroner says that Michael Jackson was killed by a cocktail of strong prescription drugs,.
In an announcement made on Friday (28Aug09), Jackson’s death was ruled a homicide and blamed on the “acute” presence of the anaesthetic Propofol and anti-anxiety drug Lorazepam in his system.
In addition to the Propofol and Lorazepam, Jackson also had (Versed), Diazepam (Valium), Lidocaine (topical anaesthetic) and Ephedrine in his system prior to his death on 25 June (09).


Narcan
Source: http://www.ghettomedic.com/narcan.htm

Description
Naloxone is a competitive narcotic antagonist used in the management and reversal of overdoses caused by narcotics and synthetic narcotic agents. Unlike other narcotic antagonists, which do not completely inhibit the analgesic properties of opiates, naloxone antagonizes all actions of morphine.


Onset & Duration
Onset: Within 2 min.
Duration: 30-60 min
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Indications
1. For the complete or partial reversal of CNS and respiratory depression induced by opioids:
a) Narcotic agonist: Morphine Sulfate Heroin
Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) Methadone
Meperidine (Demerol) Paregoric
Fentanyl citrate (Sublimaze) Oxycodone (Percodan, Percocet)
Codeine Propoxyphene (Darvon, Darvocet)
b) Narcotic agonist and antagonist Butorphanol tartrate (Stadol)
Pentazocine (Talwin)
Nalbuphone (Nubain)
2. Decreased level of consciousness
3. Coma of unknown origin
4. Circulatory support in refractory shock (investigational)
5. PCP and ETOH intoxications (investigational)
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Re: June 25th - Overview of Reports + Facts

Post by lonelynation on Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:02 pm

June 25th, 2009.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Michael_Jackson

The death of Michael Jackson occurred after he suffered cardiac arrest at his home in Holmby Hills, Los Angeles, California on June 25, 2009. He was treated by paramedics at his home, but was pronounced dead at the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center.
His personal physician, Conrad Murray, stated he found Jackson in his room, not breathing but with a faint pulse, and administered CPR to no avail. While initial reports discussed the possible role of painkillers in Jackson's death, attention later turned to the medications he reportedly took for insomnia, most notably the anesthetic propofol (Diprivan).

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Source: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2009/08/24/michael-jackson-coroner.html

The star had demanded the drug to induce sleep, Murray told police, according to the affidavit.
He also told police he feared Jackson was forming an addiction to the drug and had tried to wean him off it over a period of weeks by giving him a lower dose and using other drugs.
The doctor told police he gave Jackson Valium at 1:30 a.m. and injected lorazepam intravenously at 2 a.m. on the day he died. When Jackson was still awake at 3 a.m. on June 25, Murray administered midazolam.
Then at 10:40 a.m., Murray administered 25 milligrams of propofol after Jackson begged for the drug.
Murray told police he left Jackson alone so he could make telephone calls to his Houston office and family members. When he returned, he discovered Jackson was not breathing and performed CPR.
Jackson was pronounced dead in hospital shortly afterward.

Murray's lawyer, Edward Chernoff, said in a statement late Monday his client never told detectives he left Jackson and returned to find he had stopped breathing on June 25.
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Re: June 25th - Overview of Reports + Facts

Post by jade jackson on Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:16 pm

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lonelynation wrote:Hello everyone.
I thought I would create this thread to explore the idea as to how those insisting he is dead would explain all these coincidences.
I figured if we discuss how it is that the police/those involved in the case explained the events that happened prior to his death, during, and after, we could better see the larger picture and how find the real loop holes in their explanations.
I thought it'd be good to just go over all the reports/facts to see the inconsistencies and have it all in one thread.
I'll update the topics if you guys post anything Smile

Thank you so much lonelynation. I was just looking for your thread and when I couldn't find it I found a similar topic by rowdyangel and just commented in that thread. Seems like we are on the same page with this. I think it is a great idea...and am so glad you started this thread, and that I found the other one (the last post there was Sept 24, so it is time to resurrect it...no pun intended, or post everything on this thread...I leave that up to you and rowdyangel
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Post by lonelynation on Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:45 pm

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Re: June 25th - Overview of Reports + Facts

Post by Red Velvet on Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:24 am

First off - thank you for this thread!!

I will stir the "autopsy" pot by posting a potential bit of "evidence" to hopefully disprove that any "autopsy" ever existed at all.

After reading this quoted information again, I ask you to click on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmdrNn3HZcY and listen carefully for the numbers of times the Coroner was asked the question of "whether there was anything unusual about Michael Jackson's physical body" and notice how quickly the coroner gives a very quick, flat-out NO.

Then read the article again and notice just how many "unusual" things the "autopsy" claimed to have found.

Keep in mind, the questions asked by the Coroner are things he would know. They are superficial information regarding the exterior of Michael's body.

Try to have some fun with it. Count the numbers of times he was asked that question about whether there was anything unusual about the body and you can even count the numbers of different ways that he was asked the same question. . .

And each time ... he said, "no".

You can actually count the numbers of flat-out NOs to each question. I think I counted 5.

Somebody please debunct my thought. Somebody please offer any reasonable (or even possible) explanation for why the coroner would lie, not once, not twice, but YOU count the times - regarding whether there was anything unusual about MJ's physical body.

If you say to me, "well the Coroner wasn't obligated to devulge certain things", I ask in advance that you notice also the numbers of times, when the Coroner was asked certain things he did not wish to devulge HE SIMPLY SAID, in his own way, that he was not privvy to discuss blah blah blah or whatever.

He didn't throw out, "NO" real fast whenever he was asked something he didn't want to answer, he said, "I don't want to answer that"

....not, "NO".

One time he answered, "no" then had the presence of mind to say, "I wouldn't tell you that even if I had that information" - he tosses that into one of the mixes but that was still not his typical, professional, guarded response/speech - in other words you have to notice HOW he does that - - - so randomly as though he'd forgotten then realized the answer to that was supposed to be evasive or something like that.

I feel this Coroner press conference was very 'telling' and I am ready to be proven incorrect - because I am ready for the truth ... so you debunkers .... don't be shy!! Laughing Let's get it on!!!

lonelynation wrote:Autopsy

Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/10/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-reveals-star-was-healthy-prior-to-death/

Michael Jackson was for the most part healthy at the time of his death on June 25th, the Associated Press writes after obtaining a copy of the still-unreleased autopsy report. Despite rumors that Jackson appeared gaunt and was “listless” at rehearsals in the weeks leading up to his death, the autopsy findings reveal that Jackson weighed 136 pounds, within the normal range of a 5′ 9” man, and that “his heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup,” the AP writes. Jackson’s other major organs were also found to be normal.

The autopsy found that Jackson did suffer from a condition that made his lungs “chronically inflamed and had reduced capacity that might have left him short of breath,” but this didn’t contribute to the singer’s death. Furthermore, Jackson also had arthritis in his lower back and fingers, plus some plaque buildup in his lower legs. The autopsy did uncover needle marks all over Jackson’s arms, scarring on his face and neck and tattooed eyebrows and lips. Jackson’s ribs were crack and chest bruised from attempts to resuscitate the singer.

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Source: http://www.inquisitr.com/27642/michael-jackson-autopsy-leaked/

According to the leaked document Michael was literally skin and bones having barely eaten and the contents of his stomach showing only pills, although they don’t say what kind. His hips, shoulders and thighs supposedly were riddled with needle wounds which is believed to be a result of daily injections of narcotic painkillers.

Further details in the report supposedly point to a wig wearing anorexic body weighing about 112 pound. Additionally the body had several broken ribs from the rescuers attempts to resuscitate him. There is also suggestions that four injection sites were found above or near to his heart.

Three of the injections had penetrated the heart wall — causing damage — but a fourth missed and hit one of the 50-year-old star’s ribs.

The autopsy also found unexplained BRUISING on Jackson’s knees and on the fronts of both shins. And there were CUTS on his back, indicating a recent fall.

The King of Pop’s once handsome face bore a network of plastic surgery scars, while the bridge to his nose had vanished and its right side had partially collapsed.

As inquiries into the tragedy last night focused on the star’s personal physician Dr Conrad Murray, a source close to the Jackson entourage said: “Michael’s family and fans will be horrified when they realise the appalling state he was in.

“He was skin and bone, his hair had fallen out and had been eating nothing but pills when he died. Injection marks all over his body and the disfigurement caused by years of plastic surgery show he’d been in terminal decline for years."

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KING: Yes. Now, there are reports, doctor, that his body was riddled — I want to get this right — with needle marks when he died.

Did you see any evidence of needle marks on this visit?

KLEIN: Well, I didn’t examine his entire body.

KING: Had you seen any in prior exams?

KLEIN: No, I never saw needle marks on his body. I mean I never saw them. But I could tell you— but I didn’t see a riddling of anything. People sound like he looked like he was made of, you know, there were holes in him. And there weren’t anything like that.

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Random bits...

Source: http://stupidcelebrities.net/2009/06/29/michael-jackson-autopsy-results-leaked-shocking-results/

Michael Jackson had recently developed stage fright and was terrified at the thought of performing his upcoming shows.
Sources close to Jackson said he actually believed he would be killed if he pulled out of doing the concerts.



Source: http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/michael-jacksons-second-autopsy-why-would-it-be-needed

This second autopsy will be performed by an independent doctor that is hired by the family, and although it is harder to gain results the second time around, because the body has already been through a procedure, sometimes it is necessary to obtain more information and be more focued.
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Post by Red Velvet on Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:14 am

Are there no comments on this Coroner interview? Am I the only one seeing it as lies lies lies? If so its okay but uhhhh can I get some feed back on that video?
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