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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:28 pm

http://www.youtube.com/v/C6AQivKU8UA

Came across this, sorry if it has been posted before but I havn't seen it.


Edit by Souza: Sorry, it acted weird on the board, had to make it a link...
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Post by mjssoulmate on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:40 pm

It does all seem like a game/play/movie/ to me. And yes, we all play our parts in this.
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Post by Sweet1 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:47 pm

I thought E-Cas said he was approached as a stand in for TII but turned it down. I wonder if he was trying to give everyone a clue that he was in the movie afterall. I know one of the MJ in the movie was very limber and the other MJ was rather stiff and didn't move much. I would shrek to think MJ dubbed his fans into believing it was all him in TII. That wasn't a very good game to play on ppl who love him very much IMHO. Keep the Faith!
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Post by Kazumi on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:32 pm

yeah when i went to see TII i noticed immediately E Casanova was in it so that could mean another clue, it also seemed to me that MJ wasn't looking the same in several parts of the movie. A friend that went with me after watching it said at the end 'it just looks like it was always meant to be a movie. he's alive and planned this whole thing' and i cannot agree more. when we came home we logged in here to check more clues, hehe
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Post by nellyka7 on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:38 pm

Sweet1 wrote:I thought E-Cas said he was approached as a stand in for TII but turned it down. I wonder if he was trying to give everyone a clue that he was in the movie afterall. I know one of the MJ in the movie was very limber and the other MJ was rather stiff and didn't move much. I would shrek to think MJ dubbed his fans into believing it was all him in TII. That wasn't a very good game to play on ppl who love him very much IMHO. Keep the Faith!

Yeah, I atleast think that there was one double. Because originally, I read on TMZ that Michael wasn't supposed to do the whole part of each show. I read that he would perform two or three songs, and then an impersonator would complete the rest.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:48 pm

[quote="nellyka7"]
Sweet1 wrote:I thought E-Cas said he was approached as a stand in for TII but turned it down. I wonder if he was trying to give everyone a clue that he was in the movie afterall. I know one of the MJ in the movie was very limber and the other MJ was rather stiff and didn't move much. I would shrek to think MJ dubbed his fans into believing it was all him in TII. That wasn't a very good game to play on ppl who love him very much IMHO. Keep the Faith!

Yeah, I atleast think that there was one double. Because originally, I read on TMZ that Michael wasn't supposed to do the whole part of each show. I read that he would perform two or three songs, and then an impersonator would complete the rest.[/quote

Yes, I agree with you both and especially it wasn't a very good game to play on ppl who loved him and paid to see him, just makes me maybe wonder if he was prepared to let doubles perform for him then his heart really wasn't in performing much and it was time to hang up his sequinned glove and fedora hat so to speak and retire and what better way to do it than a (hoax) death? Maybe he did want peace and didn't feel up to perfoming much, he has had a great deal of stress for years and it does grind a person down.
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Post by 2000 Watts on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:50 pm

Ok. I haven't posted for a long time but I am struggling with TII movie. I am reading that some people believe there are doubles in the movie and some don't. I had a hard time believing that it was MJ in the movie except for when he was in the black outfit instructing the dancers and the close up in smooth criminal. I couldn't get over his thinness. How did he go from looking like this in this link below in May 09 to the very that very thin the next month. And if that was him in the film in some parts, was this some time earlier and then passed off as now. Just wondering and confused.

http://photos.elusiveshadow.com/details.php?image_id=2859
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Post by MJLove on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:54 pm

is that definitely him in the picture??
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Post by LiberianGirl on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:57 pm

Hi guys I watched TII for 5 times. And I'M SURE that the orange pants is the 02 London guy and there's another one who doesn't move and dance much. Our Michael was only in the Jackson 5 songs, Billie Jean and Man in the Mirror and in some of the talking parts of course. I'm almost 100% sure of this.

But the question is, why did he use body doubles? Was he really sick or did he want to be behind the camera?
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Post by 2000 Watts on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:03 pm

It says it is. They are pic done by the Exclusive Gallery of MJ. It is a french site. The site says:

"International Visitors: this gallery features numerous high quality pictures of Michael Jackson: his concerts, his public appearances and much more. Most of the pictures featured in this gallery were posted on various message boards. We hope you will enjoy them !"

The pics go from the early years until his death and then pic of the things auctioned. It has really good pics.
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Post by MJonMyMind on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:07 pm

But the question is, why did he use body doubles? Was he really sick or did he want to be behind the camera? [/quote]

Maybe he had no choice or say in that decision....or we will find out soon enough.

Or just maybe it was a self image thing! and it was all part of his plan of dissapearing


Mind you I belive Doubles have been around MJ for a while now
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Post by LiberianGirl on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:12 pm

I don't know how to upload pictures here but hope it works. Here you can see the difference btw 2 Michaels. On the right that's our Michael and on the left he'sa double. Look at the ear and the nose. It's so obvious.

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Post by 2000 Watts on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:15 pm

I think it was all part of the illusion. The man behind the camera directing "himself" like Liberian Girl. Except the man in front of the camera was only MJ a few times. I don't know if MJ wanted to fool people or just be the joker he is known to be.
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Post by MJLove on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:21 pm

i see what you're saying. i think the pic that @2000 Watts posted was the real Michael. I'm probably just jumping to conclusions now and confusing myself, but i just looked over some TII pictures again and think that Michael in these pictures:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/125.jpg http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/rehersals/staples/001.jpg
looks a lot like e'casanova: http://www.michaeljacksoncelebrityclothing.com/MJ-Pics/e%20casanova.jpg something about the mouth and the eyes. i could always tell them apart by their eyes.
it is just probably me hallucinating, but thought id mention it!
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Post by Eva R on Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:15 am

I still don't know if there are doubles in the movie.. I really don't think e'casanova has a pointy ear. I think it looks like a pointy ear because of his hair.

But those pics of liberiangirl are strange. But some people thought the left pic was taken in 2002 or something.

Gosh, it is so hard. I just want to know who is the real Michael..
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Post by Kazumi on Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:59 am

LiberianGirl wrote:I don't know how to upload pictures here but hope it works. Here you can see the difference btw 2 Michaels. On the right that's our Michael and on the left he'sa double. Look at the ear and the nose. It's so obvious.



i think you're right, we can see clear differences, when watching TII i also noticed 'all the Michaels' weren't the same. and when they showed the O2 announcement then it was pretty clear that it wasn't the same Michael...
btw I was also stunned by the extreme thinness, a fact that was talked over and over again when he 'died'.
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Post by Kirsche on Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:25 am

I can't watch the vid because of Country bla bla...Do you have another link for that?
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Post by BJ on Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:32 am

I also can't watch it. Sad
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Post by rowdyangel on Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:37 pm

I don't think there were any doubles in TII. However, I am still not decided about O2 guy.
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Post by MJJ1982 on Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:51 pm

rowdyangel wrote:I don't think there were any doubles in TII. However, I am still not decided about O2 guy.

I agree with you, I think it is Michael all the time. Except for the o2 guy, I have my doubts about him.
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Post by MJLove on Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:51 pm

i definitely think the 02 guy was a fake. if you look at pictures of Michael around the same time they bear no resemblance to whoever made the announcement. and his mannerisms and voice were all wrong. the teeth are different too.
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Post by Kazumi on Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:11 pm

nothing special, maybe already posted before and by someone from this tread but anyhow... here it is. - in this case hope no one gets mad, i really try to come here and check your comments as much as i can but my life is so damn busy... *snif...* so i can, unfortunately, miss LOTS of evidences presented in this forum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cM1rUoBezw
(this is part 2 which i am currentlt watching)

great stuff has been said here, thumbs up to whoever made this vid
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Post by billiejean17 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:00 pm

Harleyblonde wrote:http://www.youtube.com/v/C6AQivKU8UA

Came across this, sorry if it has been posted before but I havn't seen it.


Edit by Souza: Sorry, it acted weird on the board, had to make it a link...
Very interesting !
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Post by ishealive on Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:25 pm

MJJ1982 wrote:
rowdyangel wrote:I don't think there were any doubles in TII. However, I am still not decided about O2 guy.

I agree with you, I think it is Michael all the time. Except for the o2 guy, I have my doubts about him.

I agree with both of you on TII, regarding the o2 guy I still think it was him but either way real or fake he behaved out of character for a reason, I would presume to fuel the future fire!!
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