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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:20 pm

http://a3.vox.com/6a00c22523752f549d00d4141b3dc36a47-320pi

The back of the ambulance on the video showed yellow zebra type stripping, their ambulances do not ... what do you think?
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Post by tis_ruthy on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:21 pm

hmmm interesting
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:29 pm

Hmmm... Strange ... scratch ....
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:30 pm

ooooh good catch. interesting.

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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:32 pm



do you think they look the same?
there seems to be more spacing between the words 'deparment' and 'paramedic' on the photo posted in the topic, as opposed to the one that carried MJ.

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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:40 pm

in the first pic the light under the word ambulance is off to the right after the letter c, in the second pic the light is directly under and centered to the word paramedic. on the first pic the light in the back is within the rectangle but in the second pic the light in the back is over the rectangle if you get what I am trying to say (couldn't explain that too well)

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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:43 pm

I understood, you're right! and I know that the one in the first pic is obviously an ambulance that is totally un-related to the transportation of MJ to the hospital, HOWEVER. Shouldn't all of their ambulances be built and constructed, the same? I'm not an ambulance expert so I don't really know, haha.

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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:45 pm

The letters are off...notice how there is a signal righte in between "paramedic" and on the other one is towards the end of the word..also the handles on the side of the ambulance dont match.. confused
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Post by mjjforever72 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:45 pm

Ya I agree with you on that one has more spacing than the other. Is it the way the pic is or taken but to me the stripe seems to be more thicker and more like a solid white as to the one in above link and the door seems to be white as to the other one being red.
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:47 pm

Hang on guys, I am gonna try to do a side by side comparing thingy, I will get back to you haha

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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:49 pm

even if some of the ambulances may be somewhat different is the design (some newer than others, like with school busses lol) but how do you leave in one ambulance, arrive in another and have time to do that if someone is dying?

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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:49 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:http://a3.vox.com/6a00c22523752f549d00d4141b3dc36a47-320pi

The back of the ambulance on the video showed yellow zebra type stripping, their ambulances do not ... what do you think?

There's definitely more spacing between the words 'deparment' and 'paramedic' on the photo posted in this topic as compared to the one shown in the link.

But what do you mean by "their" in the quote above ("their ambulances do not"), and where is the ambulance pictured in this topic from? Is it just a standard L.A. ambulance? Is it the ambulance that arrived at the hospital, allegedly carrying Michael? I'm not following so closely.

Thanks.
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:52 pm

The one i posted is a regular ambulance...the one missdahmer posted i believe is MJ's
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:54 pm

Lorrie wrote:
SmoothCriminal82 wrote:http://a3.vox.com/6a00c22523752f549d00d4141b3dc36a47-320pi

The back of the ambulance on the video showed yellow zebra type stripping, their ambulances do not ... what do you think?

There's definitely more spacing between the words 'deparment' and 'paramedic' on the photo posted in this topic as compared to the one shown in the link.

But what do you mean by "their" in the quote above ("their ambulances do not"), and where is the ambulance pictured in this topic from? Is it just a standard L.A. ambulance? Is it the ambulance that arrived at the hospital, allegedly carrying Michael? I'm not following so closely.

Thanks.

I think she meant, their ambulances as in, the 'other' LAFD ambulances don't have the yellow stripes or whatever like in the video. I also don't believe the photo posted in the topic has anything to do with MJ.

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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:54 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:The one i posted is a regular ambulance...the one missdahmer posted i believe is MJ's

Gotcha! Thanks again.
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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:55 pm

missdahmer wrote:I think she meant, their ambulances as in, the 'other' LAFD ambulances don't have the yellow stripes or whatever like in the video. I also don't believe the photo posted in the topic has anything to do with MJ.

Thank you, too, missdahmer.
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:58 pm



I circled some of the things on MJ's ambulance to compare to the regular LAFD ambulance from the post.

If I missed anything feel free to mention it haha my brain is not working as good lately with it's overload of the MJ madness. haha.

I also agree with mjjforever72's point. the colours do seem to be more solid and thicker in the MJ ambulance photo, however I think it might just be the lighting and reflection of it. but I have no idea!

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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:02 pm

Lorrie wrote:
missdahmer wrote:I think she meant, their ambulances as in, the 'other' LAFD ambulances don't have the yellow stripes or whatever like in the video. I also don't believe the photo posted in the topic has anything to do with MJ.

Thank you, too, missdahmer.

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Post by yaya on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:04 pm

not sure if anyone else already mentioned it, but the darker red one has a number 3 on it, while the other one doesn't. not sure if all ambulances are numbered...? but i would think they are... altho the number could be on the other side of it.
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:07 pm

youre right but in the photo I posted apparently you cant see that end of the ambulance, but I know in the videos you can. I wonder if it shows a number in the video?

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:11 pm

The ambulance and fire trucks at Mjs house were #71


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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:12 pm

MJs Ambulance is number 71
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:12 pm

ohhh good point

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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:16 pm

Can anybody tell me where they said the fire station was located? Because before I post something else i just wanna make sure i don't look dumb! lol!
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:21 pm

missdahmer wrote:

do you think they look the same?
there seems to be more spacing between the words 'deparment' and 'paramedic' on the photo posted in the topic, as opposed to the one that carried MJ.

Yes! There is a huge difference in the way the words are displayed and spaced. Hmmmm
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:24 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVEsiGVhUM

A newer LA ambulance minus the weird yellow stripping
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:35 pm

OK.. see I'm from Germany and I don't know anything about distances of streets in the USbut I think to remember that somebody on the forum said something about that they had to drive like 10 miles or so. So I looked up station 71 and i thought it might not look like that far away.
http://poifriend.com/poi_comments.php?poi_id=1874040

North Carolwood drive is like 5 streets to the right. Now I really hope i don't sound stupid.
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:43 pm

if you slow down the ambulance video, there is a sticker of a "hat" on the window...looks like either MJ's smooth criminal hat or a fireman hat...also...isnt it weird that the stripes were yellow...jsut like the brothers ties?
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:46 pm

I mapquested from fire station#71 to Mjs house, it's 2.19 miles and 6 minutes driving time
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:50 pm

http://www.massfiretrucks.com/Main_Street_FD_Engine_71.jpg


WOW>>....

http://www.massfiretrucks.com/Vacation%20Shots.htm

Scroll down to ENGINE 71....

Its Magic Kingdom (Disney) Engine 71 (Parade Piece Only)

WE ALL KNOW THAT MJ LOVED DISNEY WORLD AND MAGIC KINGDOM!!!....
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:53 pm

@ Give.In.To.Me......thank you

I think my data cache in my brain is overfilled. I think i just didn't remember it right.
I'm sorry.
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:54 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:http://www.massfiretrucks.com/Main_Street_FD_Engine_71.jpg


WOW>>....

http://www.massfiretrucks.com/Vacation%20Shots.htm

Scroll down to ENGINE 71....

Its Magic Kingdom (Disney) Engine 71 (Parade Piece Only)

WE ALL KNOW THAT MJ LOVED DISNEY WORLD AND MAGIC KINGDOM!!!....

awwww you're right!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:54 pm

No worries carpenoctem, we are all here to work on this together.
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:18 pm

Here I found LAFD weekly bulletins.

Follow the link and you'll understand :

http://www.lacity.org/lafd/bulletin.htm

Cool
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:46 pm

I'm sorry but it's already 4:45 am here. I don't know if I'm getting this right. Are you referring to that letter about the "Moulage" class? If this is it that gives me the chills
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:21 pm

Human_nature wrote:Here I found LAFD weekly bulletins.

Follow the link and you'll understand :

http://www.lacity.org/lafd/bulletin.htm

Cool

I don't understand... Shocked
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:24 pm

Human_nature wrote:Here I found LAFD weekly bulletins.

Follow the link and you'll understand :

http://www.lacity.org/lafd/bulletin.htm

Cool

Okay, I'm trying really hard to understand but I don't get it scratch
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:29 pm

I'm lost on that LAFD bulletin link scratch

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Post by CaptainJaneway on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:30 pm

which newsletter no? i am not sure what i am suppose to be looking for?
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:31 pm

missdahmer wrote:I'm lost on that LAFD bulletin link scratch

You and me both, scratch scratch
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:36 pm

you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:44 pm

Human_nature wrote:you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



No
Ohhhh, like truck and ambulance 71 don't exist ?? If that's what your thinking I was wondering about that too. I searched all evening for pictures of a fire truck or ambulance in LAFD 71 but nothing came up. Every other number did though. Where Is ambulance 71??? scratch scratch
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:47 pm

IN DISNEY LAND Smile
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Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



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Ohhhh, like truck and ambulance 71 don't exist ?? If that's what your thinking I was wondering about that too. I searched all evening for pictures of a fire truck or ambulance in LAFD 71 but nothing came up. Every other number did though. Where Is ambulance 71??? scratch scratch

oooh, that is a good question! I agree with the comment above me though. IN DISNEY LAND! hahahaha

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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:18 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



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Ohhhh, like truck and ambulance 71 don't exist ?? If that's what your thinking I was wondering about that too. I searched all evening for pictures of a fire truck or ambulance in LAFD 71 but nothing came up. Every other number did though. Where Is ambulance 71??? scratch scratch

yes that's it Wink

I tried to find too, and I saw those weekly reports, so I thought..I'll find there, but ..nope..nothing Suspect
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:19 pm

Someone in L.A. who can check if they can found No.71 ??
Laughing
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm

All I could find about LAFD ambulance 71 is that it was bought in 2003:
http://www.lacity.org/LAFD/bulletin/wb2003-27.pdf
and it was used at least once in 2004:
http://www.lacity.org/LAFD/bulletin/wb2004-39.pdf

After that, I can't find any more references to ambulance 71.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm

http://www.lacity.org/LAFD/bulletin/wb2003-27.pdf

I found this link which states that paramedic ambulance 71 was placed into commission June 2003. It is on the last page toward the bottom of the left hand side.

I copied the information below but wanted to attach the link for anyone who wanted to check for themselves.
[size=12]"On June 29, 2003, the following resource improvements were

implemented:

• New Paramedic Rescue Ambulance 71 at Fire Station 71 in Bel

Air /Beverly Glen

• New Paramedic Rescue Ambulance 79 at Fire Station 79 in

Harbor Gateway

• New BLS Rescue Ambulance 817 at Fire Station 17 in the

Industrial Eastside

• New BLS Rescue Ambulance 856 at Fire Station 56 in Silverlake /

Griffith Park"



I don't know where Bel Air/Beverly Glen is located in relation to Michael's home. Can anyone inform? Also, how often do they replace these units? If this is the same #71 then isn't 9 years a long time to be operating the same vehicle for such emergency purposes?



Just a thought.


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Post by kdkennedy74 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:27 pm

LOL!!!! Annie it looks like you and I are on the same page at the same time...I guess great minds really do think alike.

Very Happy
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:29 pm

Oh at first i didn't get it because as a sideline I was all over google pictures to find ambulance 71. But yeah now I got it. So where is it now? Did they finally manage to take the stickers off? Very Happy
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