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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:20 pm

http://a3.vox.com/6a00c22523752f549d00d4141b3dc36a47-320pi

The back of the ambulance on the video showed yellow zebra type stripping, their ambulances do not ... what do you think?
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Post by tis_ruthy on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:21 pm

hmmm interesting
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:29 pm

Hmmm... Strange ... scratch ....
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:45 pm

The letters are off...notice how there is a signal righte in between "paramedic" and on the other one is towards the end of the word..also the handles on the side of the ambulance dont match.. confused
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Post by mjjforever72 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:45 pm

Ya I agree with you on that one has more spacing than the other. Is it the way the pic is or taken but to me the stripe seems to be more thicker and more like a solid white as to the one in above link and the door seems to be white as to the other one being red.
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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:49 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:http://a3.vox.com/6a00c22523752f549d00d4141b3dc36a47-320pi

The back of the ambulance on the video showed yellow zebra type stripping, their ambulances do not ... what do you think?

There's definitely more spacing between the words 'deparment' and 'paramedic' on the photo posted in this topic as compared to the one shown in the link.

But what do you mean by "their" in the quote above ("their ambulances do not"), and where is the ambulance pictured in this topic from? Is it just a standard L.A. ambulance? Is it the ambulance that arrived at the hospital, allegedly carrying Michael? I'm not following so closely.

Thanks.
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:52 pm

The one i posted is a regular ambulance...the one missdahmer posted i believe is MJ's
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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:54 pm

SmoothCriminal82 wrote:The one i posted is a regular ambulance...the one missdahmer posted i believe is MJ's

Gotcha! Thanks again.
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Post by Lorrie on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:55 pm

missdahmer wrote:I think she meant, their ambulances as in, the 'other' LAFD ambulances don't have the yellow stripes or whatever like in the video. I also don't believe the photo posted in the topic has anything to do with MJ.

Thank you, too, missdahmer.
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Post by yaya on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:04 pm

not sure if anyone else already mentioned it, but the darker red one has a number 3 on it, while the other one doesn't. not sure if all ambulances are numbered...? but i would think they are... altho the number could be on the other side of it.
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:11 pm

The ambulance and fire trucks at Mjs house were #71


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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:12 pm

MJs Ambulance is number 71
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:16 pm

Can anybody tell me where they said the fire station was located? Because before I post something else i just wanna make sure i don't look dumb! lol!
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:21 pm

missdahmer wrote:

do you think they look the same?
there seems to be more spacing between the words 'deparment' and 'paramedic' on the photo posted in the topic, as opposed to the one that carried MJ.

Yes! There is a huge difference in the way the words are displayed and spaced. Hmmmm
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:24 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVEsiGVhUM

A newer LA ambulance minus the weird yellow stripping
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:35 pm

OK.. see I'm from Germany and I don't know anything about distances of streets in the USbut I think to remember that somebody on the forum said something about that they had to drive like 10 miles or so. So I looked up station 71 and i thought it might not look like that far away.
http://poifriend.com/poi_comments.php?poi_id=1874040

North Carolwood drive is like 5 streets to the right. Now I really hope i don't sound stupid.
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:43 pm

if you slow down the ambulance video, there is a sticker of a "hat" on the window...looks like either MJ's smooth criminal hat or a fireman hat...also...isnt it weird that the stripes were yellow...jsut like the brothers ties?
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:46 pm

I mapquested from fire station#71 to Mjs house, it's 2.19 miles and 6 minutes driving time
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:50 pm

http://www.massfiretrucks.com/Main_Street_FD_Engine_71.jpg


WOW>>....

http://www.massfiretrucks.com/Vacation%20Shots.htm

Scroll down to ENGINE 71....

Its Magic Kingdom (Disney) Engine 71 (Parade Piece Only)

WE ALL KNOW THAT MJ LOVED DISNEY WORLD AND MAGIC KINGDOM!!!....
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:53 pm

@ Give.In.To.Me......thank you

I think my data cache in my brain is overfilled. I think i just didn't remember it right.
I'm sorry.
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:54 pm

No worries carpenoctem, we are all here to work on this together.
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:18 pm

Here I found LAFD weekly bulletins.

Follow the link and you'll understand :

http://www.lacity.org/lafd/bulletin.htm

Cool
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:46 pm

I'm sorry but it's already 4:45 am here. I don't know if I'm getting this right. Are you referring to that letter about the "Moulage" class? If this is it that gives me the chills
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:21 pm

Human_nature wrote:Here I found LAFD weekly bulletins.

Follow the link and you'll understand :

http://www.lacity.org/lafd/bulletin.htm

Cool

I don't understand... Shocked
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:24 pm

Human_nature wrote:Here I found LAFD weekly bulletins.

Follow the link and you'll understand :

http://www.lacity.org/lafd/bulletin.htm

Cool

Okay, I'm trying really hard to understand but I don't get it scratch
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Post by CaptainJaneway on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:30 pm

which newsletter no? i am not sure what i am suppose to be looking for?
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:31 pm

missdahmer wrote:I'm lost on that LAFD bulletin link scratch

You and me both, scratch scratch
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:36 pm

you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



No
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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:44 pm

Human_nature wrote:you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



No
Ohhhh, like truck and ambulance 71 don't exist ?? If that's what your thinking I was wondering about that too. I searched all evening for pictures of a fire truck or ambulance in LAFD 71 but nothing came up. Every other number did though. Where Is ambulance 71??? scratch scratch
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Post by SmoothCriminal82 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:47 pm

IN DISNEY LAND Smile
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:18 pm

Give.In.To.Me wrote:
Human_nature wrote:you have reports, weekly for LAFD. Example : 20 busiest Engine During the months of January, February and March of 2009:

1. Engine 209 13.1 responses per day

incidents, causes, hospital, staff....

and more informations.

I tried to find the Engine 71 and I can't.
In many reports, no mention of the number 71.



No
Ohhhh, like truck and ambulance 71 don't exist ?? If that's what your thinking I was wondering about that too. I searched all evening for pictures of a fire truck or ambulance in LAFD 71 but nothing came up. Every other number did though. Where Is ambulance 71??? scratch scratch

yes that's it Wink

I tried to find too, and I saw those weekly reports, so I thought..I'll find there, but ..nope..nothing Suspect
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:19 pm

Someone in L.A. who can check if they can found No.71 ??
Laughing
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm

All I could find about LAFD ambulance 71 is that it was bought in 2003:
http://www.lacity.org/LAFD/bulletin/wb2003-27.pdf
and it was used at least once in 2004:
http://www.lacity.org/LAFD/bulletin/wb2004-39.pdf

After that, I can't find any more references to ambulance 71.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:25 pm

http://www.lacity.org/LAFD/bulletin/wb2003-27.pdf

I found this link which states that paramedic ambulance 71 was placed into commission June 2003. It is on the last page toward the bottom of the left hand side.

I copied the information below but wanted to attach the link for anyone who wanted to check for themselves.
[size=12]"On June 29, 2003, the following resource improvements were

implemented:

• New Paramedic Rescue Ambulance 71 at Fire Station 71 in Bel

Air /Beverly Glen

• New Paramedic Rescue Ambulance 79 at Fire Station 79 in

Harbor Gateway

• New BLS Rescue Ambulance 817 at Fire Station 17 in the

Industrial Eastside

• New BLS Rescue Ambulance 856 at Fire Station 56 in Silverlake /

Griffith Park"



I don't know where Bel Air/Beverly Glen is located in relation to Michael's home. Can anyone inform? Also, how often do they replace these units? If this is the same #71 then isn't 9 years a long time to be operating the same vehicle for such emergency purposes?



Just a thought.


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Post by kdkennedy74 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:27 pm

LOL!!!! Annie it looks like you and I are on the same page at the same time...I guess great minds really do think alike.

Very Happy
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Post by carpenoctem on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:29 pm

Oh at first i didn't get it because as a sideline I was all over google pictures to find ambulance 71. But yeah now I got it. So where is it now? Did they finally manage to take the stickers off? Very Happy
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:30 pm

ok, so nothing after 2004...pretty weird no ?
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Post by Willa on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:38 pm

No yellow stripe on the back of number 95.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVEsiGVhUM

No hat decal in the window either.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:44 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:LOL!!!! Annie it looks like you and I are on the same page at the same time...I guess great minds really do think alike.

Very Happy

Sure they do! Wink
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Post by annieisnotokey on Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:47 pm

Human_nature wrote:ok, so nothing after 2004...pretty weird no ?

Yep. Suspect

God, I wish I lived in LA!!! I'd be at the LAFD headquarters investigating these ambulances myself.
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Post by MrsBenjamin on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:00 pm

u probably wont be able to tell maybe the sun is shinning on it too much, but i will say there must have been 2 ambulance trucks involved.
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:09 pm

MrsBenjamin wrote:u probably wont be able to tell maybe the sun is shinning on it too much, but i will say there must have been 2 ambulance trucks involved.

I don't understand what you mean ...can you explain please. thanks Smile
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Post by Willa on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:17 pm

Someone who lives in L.A. should know whether any of the paramedic ambulances have yellow stripes on the back of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_56xVAtBjyU&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yJNHY6OmoA&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVEsiGVhUM&feature=related

Michael's ambulance has yellow stripes and a hat on the window - MJ Ambulance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsbkXUOzuo&feature=related

YELLOW AND RED FLOWERS AT THE MEMORIAL!
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Post by shirley-grace on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:25 pm

I said that befor.There is a second ambulance.
you can see it at 1:50 -1:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsbkXUOzuo&feature=related
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Post by Willa on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:27 pm

Both ambulances have the number 71 on them.
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Post by shirley-grace on Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:30 pm

Willa wrote:Both ambulances have the number 71 on them.

I'm not talkin about the firetruck outside, I mean the ambulance that you can see inside afte the first ambulance left.
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:20 am

shirley-grace wrote:
Willa wrote:Both ambulances have the number 71 on them.

I'm not talkin about the firetruck outside, I mean the ambulance that you can see inside afte the first ambulance left.

oh gosh yes, you're right ! I never notived before...
Shocked
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Post by Human_nature on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:24 am

watch this one, it's clearer :

and notice..tourist bus arrived ..after the ambulance is gone ???
Suspect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuXRaJFdmKU
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Post by shirley-grace on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:31 am

And after the tourist bus arrives they close the gates, still the second ambulance is inside.

On one of the forums a while back, it was mentioned that MJ had his own ambulance.
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Post by shirley-grace on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:37 am

The second ambulance is also the reason for the first one backing up.
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