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Post by Christiana on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:17 pm

StripedFeline wrote:Ohh, this sounds very interesting! I live in England so I probably can't call it up, but it seems most of you have tried a couple of times anyway ... Is anyone going to pay that fee to get more details? I might give it a go but I don't get paid 'til Friday and I'm currently skint.

I have paid the fee (see my prior post) and am waiting for the results. Will post them once the report arrives in my email.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:19 pm

Thank you Christiana!!!!!!!!!!! You are awesome!!!
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Post by StripedFeline on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:20 pm

Oopss, I was slow posting. Razz My apologies. I can't wait to read the results! I only hope it turns up with some interesting tibits of information.

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Post by Christiana on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:21 pm

Hey...for the L.O.V.E. of MJ, right? Gotta do it! Intelius says my results could take up to 72 hours. YIKES! Hopefully it will not take that long.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:22 pm

Grace wrote:Jacksonologist,

as far as I know the phone number belonged to Alvarez but of course due to publishing it was shut down.

The pic of the monitor is not the only "proof pic". It's strange however that they left the monitor in public for everybody to see - knowing there would be paparazzi for sure. Usually emergency details remain closed and the laptop would be more useful in the ambulance than the firetruck IMO.

The second "proof pic" was shown in the NPG interview: Evenstad shot the picture of Chris Weiss at the side window from down Carolwood Drive. Just to prove that NPG shot THE pic.

Unfortunately this picture from down Carolwood just proves that they undertook several takes of the ambulance leaving.
You will notice when comparing the Hollywood TV "official" video and the TMZ tourbus video that
1) pylones around the firetruck were missing in one video when they were placed in the other, that
2) the guy in the red shirt who was supposed to be with Chris Weiss at the side window in one video does not even run to the side but turn from the ambulance back to his car in the other video and that
3) the shadows of the trees on the street, ambulance and garbage bins are different in the videos.
Not to forget that the tourbus is being parked at different distances to the firetruck in the vids.

Did you ever wonder in the toubus video that there were only 5 cars following the ambulance and the SUVs and that the so important red car stayed in front of the gates? The one possibly belonging to Ben Evenstad?
My best guess: they went right back into the house to check the photo and film material and decide on the publication.

And the NPG interview was done by a Norwegian news agency - huh?
He's having friends in Oslo.

We should have known right from the start, right?
Looking back from today, I have a big smile on my face.
We did great though. Dedicated detectives and still on the road.
BRAVO to all investigators. Great team around the globe.

Are we in audition for being his extension?
Yes we are.

LOL!!!

Ive said this before and I'll say it agian....the more they tried to make this all look real, the more fake it looked. They are now left with a bunch of screw ups...and they know it.
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:24 pm

Thank you christiana!!! Its all for L.O.V.E.!!
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:24 pm

Christiana wrote:Hey...for the L.O.V.E. of MJ, right? Gotta do it! Intelius says my results could take up to 72 hours. YIKES! Hopefully it will not take that long.

I hope it doesn't take that long. I am getting antsy waiting for the results.
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Post by Eva R on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:28 pm

can somebody give me a link of a topic here where Michael...L.O.V.E responded? Very Happy Sorry, can't find it.
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by me0101 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:31 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
me0101 wrote:I just called (909) 273-4846. It's active and went to voicemail. </FONT>

?

It didnt go to voicemail for me!! Hang on...Im gonna try it again.


Nope,,I got the same thing as last time....what did the voicemail say?

It's an automated message. Not a personal voicemail message. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:34 pm

Eva R wrote:can somebody give me a link of a topic here where Michael...L.O.V.E responded? Very Happy Sorry, can't find it.

when did he respond?
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Post by Annemarie on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:34 pm

I'm very curious what will come out of this...
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Post by rowdyangel on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:35 pm

I'm sitting on the edge of my seat and getting very jittery bounce
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Post by ziffes on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:37 pm

well one of the numbers goes to cedar glen. i don't know what it is but i tried to google Michael Jackson, cedar glen.. and the first link is some lawyers... one of them defended MJ at his trail together with his lawyer that is...

i get the same name by searching on Michael Jackson, lake arrowhead

the name that shows is Shadae Schmidt
anybody heard that name before ???
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Post by rowdyangel on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 pm

ziffes wrote:well one of the numbers goes to cedar glen. i don't know what it is but i tried to google Michael Jackson, cedar glen.. and the first link is some lawyers... one of them defended MJ at his trail together with his lawyer that is...

i get the same name by searching on Michael Jackson, lake arrowhead

the name that shows is Shadae Schmidt
anybody heard that name before ???

???? I just googled that name and got this "Shadae Schmidt was defended at the trial by Michael Jackson lawyer Thomas Messereau."
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Post by ziffes on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:52 pm

rowdyangel wrote:
ziffes wrote:well one of the numbers goes to cedar glen. i don't know what it is but i tried to google Michael Jackson, cedar glen.. and the first link is some lawyers... one of them defended MJ at his trail together with his lawyer that is...

i get the same name by searching on Michael Jackson, lake arrowhead

the name that shows is Shadae Schmidt
anybody heard that name before ???

???? I just googled that name and got this "Shadae Schmidt was defended at the trial by Michael Jackson lawyer Thomas Messereau."

oh i miss understood what it was saying.. sorry about that Embarassed
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Post by fegemermaid on Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:29 pm

Anything back on the phone number?

I know this number was posted on the net months ago when the pic first "surfaced", I am sure that someone has paid for the report before now, is it possible to change the information? Meaning, surely by now this phone number has been researched to death, if the information was actually meaningful, someone would have reported it by now, so for the sake of "privacy" or whatever, could Verizon actually have changed the information as to who the number is registered to, etc?
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Post by LizzieBee on Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:32 pm

Wow. Jeezum. No results yet? I read all of your posts and I'm guessing the number has been disconnected. I would think it would say something like, "Sorry, the number you have dialed has been disconnected" BUT I know different phone companies will have different messages. I doubt they would give the number to someone else. Lol. I wouldn't take it. Too many people would be calling.

But Grace, thanks for your post. Lol. The red car did stay there. Hmm...lol.
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Post by LizzieBee on Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:40 pm

fegemermaid wrote:Anything back on the phone number?

I know this number was posted on the net months ago when the pic first "surfaced", I am sure that someone has paid for the report before now, is it possible to change the information? Meaning, surely by now this phone number has been researched to death, if the information was actually meaningful, someone would have reported it by now, so for the sake of "privacy" or whatever, could Verizon actually have changed the information as to who the number is registered to, etc?

Hmm...good question. I'm guessing it's possible. Lol. I could see them using a John Doe or something. I mean, what happens to a phone number when it gets disconnected and cannot be used ever again? Like, famous numbers. They can't give it to anyone else right? So what happens to the number?
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Post by shasta2001 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:53 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Lake+Arrowhead&state=CA

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Cedar+Glen&state=CA

Check out the above links. I googled a search for maps of Cedar Glen and Arrowhead and look at what it pulled. Essentially they are in the same location so both of our searches appear to be correct IMO.


Both of those places are probably > 1 hour from L.A. I was in San Bernadino 2 years ago and we went into Hollywood for the Christmas Parade. We got that map of Crimes Scenes of Hollywood and found O.J's place.
Several other spots too. Kind of weird fun but my son loved it.
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Post by SunShine on Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:56 pm

I put in the name Shadae Schmidt om google and I got this surprise

Las Vegas Metro Area, Nevada Attorney Profiles - Las-Vegas ...

Among his cases was the successful prosecution of Shadae Schmidt, ... Shadae Schmidt was defended at the trial by Michael Jackson lawyer Thomas Messereau. ...
lawyers.law.cornell.edu/lawyers/.../las-vegas-paradise-nv-metro - Cached - Similar
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Post by Kirsche on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:12 pm

yeah that'S what I found, too....so do you think it has a meaning?
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Post by HeyHey on Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:52 pm

SunShine wrote:I put in the name Shadae Schmidt om google and I got this surprise

Las Vegas Metro Area, Nevada Attorney Profiles - Las-Vegas ...

Among his cases was the successful prosecution of Shadae Schmidt, ... Shadae Schmidt was defended at the trial by Michael Jackson lawyer Thomas Messereau. ...
lawyers.law.cornell.edu/lawyers/.../las-vegas-paradise-nv-metro - Cached - Similar


Has anyone found any info on this? I have clicked every link in google and only get a list of lawyers, not an article
Thomas Messereau isn't on any of the lists i looked at either? So why is this article relevant? Can anyone work it out?
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Post by mjssoulmate on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:07 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:
Kirsche wrote:I saw one youtube video, where they tracked phone number... and the number was from a hotel

That's odd...why would someone from a hotel be calling 911 for Michael Jackson? How would they know he was in trouble?

its a cell number:

(909) 273-4846

Type: Cell Phone Provider: Verizon WirelessLocation: Arrowhead, CA


That was Alberto Alvarez' cell phone number. He lives in Arrowhead. He dropped this number since then, for obvious reasons.
this has been discussed in another thread a while back.






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Post by shasta2001 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:08 pm

HeyHey wrote:
SunShine wrote:I put in the name Shadae Schmidt om google and I got this surprise

Las Vegas Metro Area, Nevada Attorney Profiles - Las-Vegas ...

Among his cases was the successful prosecution of Shadae Schmidt, ... Shadae Schmidt was defended at the trial by Michael Jackson lawyer Thomas Messereau. ...
lawyers.law.cornell.edu/lawyers/.../las-vegas-paradise-nv-metro - Cached - Similar


Has anyone found any info on this? I have clicked every link in google and only get a list of lawyers, not an article
Thomas Messereau isn't on any of the lists i looked at either? So why is this article relevant? Can anyone work it out?

That is all I could find too. Seemed like a lot of DUI attorneys though.
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Post by Christiana on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:58 pm

I am still waiting on the results from Intelius; they are processing. I will post the results once I get the report. They did say it could take up to 72 hours. I hope it won't take that long, but it doesn't look like the results will come today. Sad Hopefully tomorrow.
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Post by Kirsche on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:01 pm

It's okay, we can wait Smile
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Post by me0101 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:44 pm

Christiana wrote:I am still waiting on the results from Intelius; they are processing. I will post the results once I get the report. They did say it could take up to 72 hours. I hope it won't take that long, but it doesn't look like the results will come today. Hopefully tomorrow.

Great!
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Post by ziffes on Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:43 pm

look at this
that number does come from Lake arrowhead

http://www.numberinvestigator.com/phone/909-273-4846.html
http://www.numberinvestigator.com/trace-results/9092734846/n

what is Lake arrowhead BTW??

here In DK things like that are for free.. the yellow pages or just call 118 to get information. unless the owner has a secret number..
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Post by bibi on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:56 pm

any news? Very Happy
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Post by Christiana on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:59 pm

No news yet. I've checked several times and it still says "processing." So annoying! I guess when they say "up to 72 hours" for results, they really mean it. Sad
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Post by 4KB on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:21 pm

Christiana, you are funny.....that was really nice of you to do that!
Thanks!
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Post by LiberianGirl on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:44 pm

Who and why could someone took a picture of the screen? And nobody was inside the truck and allowed people to take a picture of the screen?? Doesn't make sense but ohh wait that's a picture of Mr "That day and the other d... umm" ,right? lol!
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Post by smoothcriminal2792 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:00 pm

LiberianGirl wrote:Who and why could someone took a picture of the screen? And nobody was inside the truck and allowed people to take a picture of the screen?? Doesn't make sense but ohh wait that's a picture of Mr "That day and the other d... umm" ,right? lol!

haha i absolutely agree with you
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Post by Debbie Zebua on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:33 pm

Eva R wrote:[quote=.


Why did they make this photo anyway?? :S[/quote]

excellent question !
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Post by Debbie Zebua on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:39 pm

DarkYetLovely wrote:
me0101 wrote:I just called (909) 273-4846. It's active and went to voicemail.


Did you leave a message? 'Cause that would be awesome!

LOL...U should say :

"Hi baby, it's me...visit MJKIT ASAP. The ladies there are waiting and dying to hola at ya ! Muaaaaaaach"
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Post by Debbie Zebua on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:37 am

Christiana wrote:Hey...for the L.O.V.E. of MJ, right? Gotta do it! Intelius says my results could take up to 72 hours. YIKES! Hopefully it will not take that long.

is L.O.V.E stand for something ?
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Post by Christiana on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:47 am

Debbie Zebua wrote:
Christiana wrote:Hey...for the L.O.V.E. of MJ, right? Gotta do it! Intelius says my results could take up to 72 hours. YIKES! Hopefully it will not take that long.

is L.O.V.E stand for something ?

It's just something MJ says in the movie.
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Post by LucyLocket on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:59 am

Eva R wrote:[quote=.


You know, this looks photoshopped to me. Look at the "inside" edges of the computer screen (where the display area meets the plastic) and the "outside" edges of the screen. It just looks odd to me.

Also, what does "brush area" mean? From those lat/long coordinates, could they tell if they were in a brushy area (versus in the home)? I know... that was a dumb question!
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Post by smoothcriminal2792 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:03 am

LucyLocket wrote:
Eva R wrote:[quote=.


You know, this looks photoshopped to me. Look at the "inside" edges of the computer screen (where the display area meets the plastic) and the "outside" edges of the screen. It just looks odd to me.

Also, what does "brush area" mean? From those lat/long coordinates, could they tell if they were in a brushy area (versus in the home)? I know... that was a dumb question!

that's a very good observation, the angle of the screen does not seem to fit the position of the laptop itself IMO.
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Post by MJGIRL18 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:16 am

Debbie Zebua wrote:
Eva R wrote:[quote=.


Why did they make this photo anyway?? :S

excellent question ![/quote]

ur right its at a weird angle
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by Kirsche on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:32 am

L.O.V.E. = Lord Of Victorious Escape! Smile
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Post by ziffes on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:51 am

Kirsche wrote:L.O.V.E. = Lord Of Victorious Escape! Smile


lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Post by missinmj on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:52 am

So...... I paid for the full report. I will post it when I get it. you can be assured of that.
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by Missyb007 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:34 am

Kirsche wrote:
MJGIRL18 wrote:HERE IS A PIC OF THE AMBULANCE SCREEN WHEN THEY WERE CALLED TO MJ'S HOUSE .

NOW HERE IS A SCREENSHOT OF KENNY ORTEGA'S TWEET FROM THE 25TH.

THERE IS A 23 MINUTE GAP BETWEEN 12:21 AND 12:43.
HOW COULD KENNY NOT KNOW MJ WAS HOSPITALIZED.....OR DEAD.
HE WAS TWEETING FOR 23 MINUTES AFTER 911 WAS CALLED.




DO YOU FIND THAT STRANGE?

Hi second tweet is sooooo odd! In the first moment he says, great loss etc. and in the next moment is joking around with hints etc...not normal for me

401 5242 I think that's the second number and another number on there:
491 2472 Smile
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by mjgirl86 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:35 am

ziffes wrote:
Kirsche wrote:L.O.V.E. = Lord Of Victorious Escape! Smile


lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

AHAHAHA, that's awesome!!

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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by MissLady on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:45 am

smoothcriminal2792 wrote:
LucyLocket wrote:
Eva R wrote:[quote=.


You know, this looks photoshopped to me. Look at the "inside" edges of the computer screen (where the display area meets the plastic) and the "outside" edges of the screen. It just looks odd to me.

Also, what does "brush area" mean? From those lat/long coordinates, could they tell if they were in a brushy area (versus in the home)? I know... that was a dumb question!

that's a very good observation, the angle of the screen does not seem to fit the position of the laptop itself IMO.

Awesome observation! I would have to agree... the angle just doesn't seem right. Looking at it, my brain tells me something isn't quite right with it. Whether they tried to enhance it or do a full out shop-job on it, i don't know... it's just weird IMO
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by Neversaynever on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:56 am

mjgirl86 wrote:
ziffes wrote:
Kirsche wrote:L.O.V.E. = Lord Of Victorious Escape! Smile


lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

AHAHAHA, that's awesome!!





Interesting on KO... It's like he built it up at 1:45 AM. He ususually does not tweet that late.
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:46 pm

So Michael is alwaya on Youtube Very Happy

PPBMyLife??
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Post by ziffes on Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:42 am

look what found.. just a note in some forum

http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-909-273-4846#pPkA7TkTO8wBaOAjMMKjLvA
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Re: SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG

Post by MJJ1982 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:59 am

[quote="MJGIRL18"][quote="Debbie Zebua"][quote="Eva R"][quote=.


The above pic is much better. IMO there's nothing wrong with the angle, or my eyes are lying to me.
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