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Post by Peace Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:43 am

Okay so before anyone says why are you posting this? Well i believe Michael's alive, but i go to her blog to get messages from Michael, supposedly. I'm not saying i believe everything she says because i'm not into that stuff, but I find it comforting. I also try to correlate things she says to us. Well anyway my point is, her latest post entitled, The Way You Make Me Feel, and with the millions of Michael pics, she posted a picture of E'Casanova, and it says E'Casanova Live In Concert. Clearly there was a reason for that.

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Post by LizzieBee Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:48 am

Aww...this made me tear up a little. I don't believe Michael is gone so this can't possibly be real to me right? It does sound like something Michael would say though so I will keep that in my heart. I'll imagine him giving me words of love. <3
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Post by Peace Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:52 am

I wonder if she can contact the spirit of someone alive?
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Post by LizzieBee Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:53 am

Peace wrote:I wonder if she can contact the spirit of someone alive?

You know what? I was thinking the same thing. scratch
There is such thing as mind reading and telepathy right?
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Post by Peace Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:58 am

Definitely, if what she does is possible, then that is. Michael sure talks a lot to be a spirit though, if you know what i mean. I wonder if Cherokee comes here? lol
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Post by LizzieBee Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:01 am

Peace wrote:Definitely, if what she does is possible, then that is. Michael sure talks a lot to be a spirit though, if you know what i mean. I wonder if Cherokee comes here? lol

Lol. I know! You read my mind! Lmbo. Just joking but I had to throw that out there since we're on the subject. I bet she does come here. when she or "MJ" said 2012, I was like, "I think I'm the first one that posted something about that." Hehe. It is possible she comes here. <3
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:30 am

Well her message is nice, but I believe this about as much as I believe in clues on Twitter...which is not at all. Laughing
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Post by Sweet1 Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:41 am

You said something there. I wonder why we don't hear from other Entertainment Icons that have passed? I don't recall physics calling up James Brown when he passed? That was MJ's idol! Makes you wanna say huummmmmmmm! like Arsenal Hall used to say. Keep the Faith!

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Peace wrote:Definitely, if what she does is possible, then that is. Michael sure talks a lot to be a spirit though, if you know what i mean. I wonder if Cherokee comes here? lol

Lol. I know! You read my mind! Lmbo. Just joking but I had to throw that out there since we're on the subject. I bet she does come here. when she or "MJ" said 2012, I was like, "I think I'm the first one that posted something about that." Hehe. It is possible she comes here. <3
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Post by MJJ Love Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:42 am

hmmmm,
Interesting.
For him to be a spirit, he sure is stil pretty much involved with the world.
Maybe she is getting these messages from MICHAEL.
THE ALIVE MICHAEL.
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TREAT IN ITSELF!
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Post by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:28 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:Well her message is nice, but I believe this about as much as I believe in clues on Twitter...which is not at all. Laughing
Same here! AMEN to that! cheers
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Post by 4evermichael71 Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:30 am

Peace wrote:Definitely, if what she does is possible, then that is. Michael sure talks a lot to be a spirit though, if you know what i mean. I wonder if Cherokee comes here? lol
With it still being open, it's a very good possibility...
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Post by Harleyblonde Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:19 am

Sorry but I do not like stuff like this and I can not find any comfort in those words as they are clearly her words and not Michaels. I cannot believe in stuff of this nature but apart from that we all know HE IS ALIVE.
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I do know know what planet this clairvoyant is on and her spirits have clearly misinformed her!!
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Post by yitsy Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:55 am

I agree Harleyblonde. Nothing but rubbish.
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Post by LizzieBee Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:10 pm

@Harleyblonde

Lol. Your post made me laugh so much. I don't know what planet she's on...hehe.
Michael is indeed alive. And I am so happy he is!! Smile Very Happy Very Happy Laughing
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Post by Peace Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:15 pm

I agree with you all. I would probably believe her if she told the future ie. How much TII will make. Hahaha but I bet that won't be happening anytime soon. So no on has thoughts on the E'Cas picture? I thought that was weird considering she's talking about Michael.
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Post by Peace Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:06 pm

Uhh nevermind, she changed the picture to MJ's eyes. Now i have a really strong feeling she comes here.
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Post by XspeechlessX Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:47 pm

Considering Michael doesn't "like to talk that much" (and hes said that himself enough times) he said a hell of a lot there!
Does it not all seem a bit stereotypical of "heaven" aswel... ?

Still made me cry though. ):
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Post by Peace Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:32 pm

I wonder why she hasn't contacted Patrick Swayze or Farrah Fawcett, maybe because they wouldn't bring as many page views? Every day it's Michael Michael Michael.
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Post by angell Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:19 pm

Hello! I came to tell you about how spirit communication works. Yes, it is possible to channel a spirit who's alive. But that's not what's happening in this case. Michael is not in a physic body anymore. The reason for his connection to our world (as some of you have noticed) is that his death is recent, so obviously he's still connected. It takes more or less 5 years for a spirit to "disconnect" from the Earth.

I do want to say also that Mrs. Cherokee's gift is authentic. These messages are real.

Please, don't suffer anymore. The death hoax is an illusion.

Michael is living free and happy in the spirit world. We all should be happy for him. He still loves us fans very much and keeps watching over us.

I don't mean to offend anyone with my comment. I respect those who don't believe in spirituality. But I thought maybe some of you would like to know the truth.


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Post by Peace Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:35 am

Cherokee Billie, Is that you? lol

I respect your thoughts and opinion but, why would you want to participate in this? Doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose in what you just said?
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Post by EarthAngel90 Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:29 am

I heard this woman months ago .. I said before & I say it again - " she is so fake ... faker that a old lady's wig!" - how in the world can you speak for Michael if he is alive & well !?!?! ... unless she is read minds & or she is telepathic .... I never believe her in the first place ... & she is only getting Michael's Connection ... what about other celebs who passed away ?!?! ....
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Post by angell Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:10 pm

Reply to "Peace" - No, I'm not Mrs. Cherokee. I'm a fan of Michael's. Just like you all. You may not believe in my words, but I have proofs that her gift is authentic. She's not inventing this, everyone.

But I think it's your right to believe or not in channeling. It just makes me sad to see MJ's fans thinking that he's alive..
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Post by infinitylady Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:18 pm

heard this woman months ago .. I said before & I say it again - " she is so fake ... faker that a old lady's wig!" - how in the world can you speak for Michael if he is alive & well !?!?!

This is....anyway....I am not into this stuff either.
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Post by Peace Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:02 pm

angell wrote:Reply to "Peace" - No, I'm not Mrs. Cherokee. I'm a fan of Michael's. Just like you all. You may not believe in my words, but I have proofs that her gift is authentic. She's not inventing this, everyone.

But I think it's your right to believe or not in channeling. It just makes me sad to see MJ's fans thinking that he's alive..

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Oh okay, well glad you're a fan. I believe it's the people's right to believe if he is alive or not, just like it's our right to believe what she does. Maybe some people fully believe he's alive, maybe for some it's just a way to get through this, maybe some are in denial. It's the choice of the people. They're not hurting anyone. But again, may I ask if you believe he's not alive, then why come to a hoax death site and post just because it makes you sad to see these people and what they believe? You are one against many on here, it would be hard to persuade people to believe that he's gone. This is the only way for comfort for most people. It will be sad either way to know he's really gone or to post on here forever and not know the truth. This forum will eventually lessen, but great love for Michael was shown, more love in writing, than most love, or should say i heartache shown on the faces of the people closest to him. With all due respect, people grieve differently. We may not find Michael through all this, but we have found many friendships, and his legacy will live on forever.
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Post by angell Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:43 pm

I'm not against anyone.. We're all MJ's fans. It's just a different point of view. My intention is not to offend anyone and not to persuade anyone as well. I just wanted to help 'cause I know how many people are suffering because of what happened to Michael..

I respect you all and I didn't come here to fight.
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Post by Peace Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:19 pm

Thankyou. No one comes here to fight.
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Post by marsheliamorgan Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:37 pm

The reason for his connection to our world (as some of you have noticed) is that his death is recent, so obviously he's still connected. It takes more or less 5 years for a spirit to "disconnect" from the Earth.


this is odd,i had heard its different for EVERY spirit,and that cremation just makes the transition of that person help them to cross faster.anyway,i dont have proof,as idont think ANYONE does or can have absolute knowledge of how long it takes to transition.but,i believe you can state matter of fact its more or less 5 years and still if that were to be the case why isnt she in touch with ALL the other celebs that have passed recently.why just michael?
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Post by angell Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:52 pm

Well, that's why I said it's more or less 5 years.. It can be a little less or more, depending of the spirit. But I can tell you that NO spirit is free from the connection to Earth if he has passed in less than 2 years. This information came from the spirits. (I'm spiritualist, I've had contact with some spirits, but I don't have gift for channeling).

I don't know why Mrs. Cherokee doesn't contact to other artists.. Maybe she does.. who knows? Seems like Michael wants her to communicate with the fans, that's why she writes on her blog about him.. (well, that's what I understood about it all..).
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Post by angell Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:55 pm

Oh, the information about cremation is interesting.. I haven't heard of it, but it makes sense Psychic Cherokee Billie Icon_smile
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Post by EMPATHY Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:06 pm

Im finding all the spiritual 'contact' with Michael fascinating -we have had Vox, Cherokee Billie, Derek Acorah, quite a few people actually all claiming that they have 'reached/contacted/spoken' with Michael in spirit. Well Derek Acorah did,nt because Tarot told me that when I asked - it was denied that he had spoken to Michael. Psychic Cherokee Billie Kopfschuettel

Some of you know that I do tarot, I post here sometimes, my tarot has given me Michael in two worlds and it has given many instances that have been completely ACCURATE. There are backup reports to the tarot I write and proofs of what I have written from events that happen after.

I dont think anybody can claim anything unless their work is proven and I know some of my work has been confirmed . So my question would be - whatever the clairvoyantes are claiming how can they PROVE what they are saying?

And furthermore - I have not had a death card for Michael Jackson yet.

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Post by icy55 Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:28 pm

EMPATHY wrote:Im finding all the spiritual 'contact' with Michael fascinating -we have had Vox, Cherokee Billie, Derek Acorah, quite a few people actually all claiming that they have 'reached/contacted/spoken' with Michael in spirit. Well Derek Acorah did,nt because Tarot told me that when I asked - it was denied that he had spoken to Michael. Psychic Cherokee Billie Kopfschuettel

Some of you know that I do tarot, I post here sometimes, my tarot has given me Michael in two worlds and it has given many instances that have been completely ACCURATE. There are backup reports to the tarot I write and proofs of what I have written from events that happen after.

I dont think anybody can claim anything unless their work is proven and I know some of my work has been confirmed . So my question would be - whatever the clairvoyantes are claiming how can they PROVE what they are saying?

And furthermore - I have not had a death card for Michael Jackson yet.

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Post by marsheliamorgan Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:08 pm

hey empathy,lets not forget sylvia browne also said SHE has had contact with michael
and THATS really upsetting to me,as i have always had faith in her,however,i am NOT going with michael really being gone,i cant accept it,maybe i am in denial,but,imho IF he was going to "chat"or whatever wouldnt he contact someone alittle closer and in his life,as HIS children wouldnt he find someway or someone to contact THEM and comfort them etc?i dont know,this is dishearting,EMPATHY,is there anyway you could repost your site?i REALLY need some help/faith here,i am fading thanks shelia
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Post by looking4truth Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:24 pm

marsheliamorgan wrote:hey empathy,lets not forget sylvia browne also said SHE has had contact with michael
and THATS really upsetting to me,as i have always had faith in her,however,i am NOT going with michael really being gone,i cant accept it,maybe i am in denial,but,imho IF he was going to "chat"or whatever wouldnt he contact someone alittle closer and in his life,as HIS children wouldnt he find someway or someone to contact THEM and comfort them etc?i dont know,this is dishearting,EMPATHY,is there anyway you could repost your site?i REALLY need some help/faith here,i am fading thanks shelia

How do you know he hasn't? I don't know if he is alive or not but in either case, I think he has been in contact with his children and his close family and friends.
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Post by marsheliamorgan Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:37 pm

oh,i forgot,yep,latoya did say she is contact with him, i stand corrected sorry
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Post by EMPATHY Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:01 pm

Hello, sorry I hav,nt been back in the threads but see you have written some posts since my last one.

The tarot is all here - the Cherokee Billy and Derek Acorah Tarots are in the JACKSON and others tarot. You dont have to register to read the tarot only to post.

http://epitarot.proboards.com/

I will stress that I mean NO offence to Cherokee Billy and again none to Derek Acorah. But I did ask the question twice with tarot on Cherokee and I have a negative on the spirit she was contacting. I had no doubt whatsoever that Derek had not contacted MJ and I dont dislike Derek and dont want to negatise things but I really feel Michael has not spoken with either of these people. I expect to upset them writing this but Im sorry I will be honest with what tarot gives me.

I dont say I am right with everything but if Im not then its my own fault with the interpretation I blame myself when I get things wrong. Tarot does genuinely guide us. I believe that because of the many readings I have done over the years and I know that some of the tarot has been completely right. Not only was it correct about the funeral but also the Vienna tribute amongst other things. I just use it for guidance and to try to help people. Tarot is not the same as being a spiritualist. Spiritualists call up the dead - tarot just gives vibrational guidance. I know people dont believe in tarot and indeed I can understand that a lot of these kind of subjects are dismissed. I have always understood that and I respect that fact. All I can say is that tarot has worked for me and been very true to me even telling me off on many occasions when I have asked things that Im not supposed to ask.

This has also happened in the case of Michael - some cards have told me that if I get the answer I would be tempted to print it. Well, I think that is a fair enough statement but I have vowed to use my cards with a sense of dignity and also with protection in situations that require that.

I think you will find the tarot about the film enlightening as I did. I can categorically say that Michael did not like the way in which he was portrayed regardless of the glowing reviews. He thought it made fun of him and I cannot see why anyone would think he was pleased with it. Tarot has told me that he is accepting of the second offering as I think there is another film to come out.

I am not receiving Michael in spirit and at the same time being told to mind my own business on certain questions - it seems that it is true that Michael does forgive very easily - but he does not approve of his father putting in a claim for money from the estate. He does,nt want anything negative said about his family even though he has his grumbles. The impression I have is that he is disappointed in Joe applying for a cash handout.

Its all in the link.

I do apologise to Cherokee Billy and her supporter here but Cherokee should know that when you call up spirits they come in false names. I would never touch an ouija board or call up spirits because you dont know what your going to get - even experience cannot always protect you. Tarot is not the same thing it does,nt call up anybody, it works in very strange ways and Im sure there is a truly mysterious quality about them that even the most experienced reader cannot define, but one thing I can say, is that with meditation on your subject matter tarot can and does have a strange way of giving over some thoughts that you could,nt make up if you wanted to.

Feel free to look at the tarot. Love to Harleyblonde here too - just wanted to mention her and jacksonologist. I have,nt spoken to many here as Im always busy on my own forum and working for the missing children and I dont get time to post but its a great forum.

The membership is doing great here too. x

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Post by angell Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:13 pm

Im
finding all the spiritual 'contact' with Michael fascinating -we have
had Vox, Cherokee Billie, Derek Acorah, quite a few people actually all
claiming that they have 'reached/contacted/spoken' with Michael in
spirit. Well Derek Acorah did,nt because Tarot told me that when I
asked - it was denied that he had spoken to Michael. Psychic Cherokee Billie Kopfschuettel

Some
of you know that I do tarot, I post here sometimes, my tarot has given
me Michael in two worlds and it has given many instances that have been
completely ACCURATE. There are backup reports to the tarot I write and
proofs of what I have written from events that happen after.

I
dont think anybody can claim anything unless their work is proven and I
know some of my work has been confirmed . So my question would be -
whatever the clairvoyantes are claiming how can they PROVE what they
are saying?


And furthermore - I have not had a death card for Michael Jackson yet.

Explain that?
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Empathy! is it possible to look into as to whether what they are saying
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I respect very much the Tarot. My aunt also plays Tarot, I asked her about the death card and she told me that it's not everytime that it appears for someone who's dead. She said that the death card also represents a big changing. So, I'm thinking here: the cards are saying that Michael is in 2 worlds and the death card didn't appear. Maybe this means that he hasn't finished his mission with the people of Earth yet and that he keeps helping us over here. He can do this from spirit, he doesn't need to be "alive" to keep on with his mission.. And this might be the reason why he's sending messages to us fans..

Could you ask the Tarot again? Pray first before you do it, dear.. Sometimes bad spirits can get in the way and make you confuse..


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Post by EMPATHY Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:16 pm

marsheliamorgan wrote:hey empathy,lets not forget sylvia browne also said SHE has had contact with michael
and THATS really upsetting to me,as i have always had faith in her,however,i am NOT going with michael really being gone,i cant accept it,maybe i am in denial,but,imho IF he was going to "chat"or whatever wouldnt he contact someone alittle closer and in his life,as HIS children wouldnt he find someway or someone to contact THEM and comfort them etc?i dont know,this is dishearting,EMPATHY,is there anyway you could repost your site?i REALLY need some help/faith here,i am fading thanks shelia

Hello Sheila, I can feel you hurting all over this post and I wish I could do something to put things right. I try to create some comfort for my own forumers because I felt I had a little mission to complete to help Michaels fans. There will be a time to move on but I am just fulfilling what I feel I have to do for the time being.

What I can say to you is not that helpful but theres an element of trust in it that you need to listen hard to - the words are ' to let go'. People think oh my god hes dead etc etc, well tarot has never told me that and I have asked plenty on it but I get a gentle prod to ask people to 'let go' and I just get that feeling that we need to do that. Not to stop caring, not to stop buying his records, and not to ever forget him but for the time being thats the information I have.

Think of it this way. Lets do 'ifs'. If Michael were alive would it benefit him for people digging up information as to where he might be? If he were alive would it be a good thing for people to know that if he didnt want them to. Think of the whole world in the knowledge that he is not here anymore? Does he have any enemies? would there be reasons to be deceased? There are dozens of 'ifs' and when I get a message like ' let go' but with a smile attached to it as a message for fans I have to try and put that over. Michael in the tarot told me he is at the top of his game and on top of the world . More things will be revealed as time goes on and dont believe anything about Conrad Murray because that guy did NOT kill Michael its a total nonsense. Theres a tarot from ages ago that saw what people were saying and dismissed it. He did,nt commit suicde either so you can all stop worrying about that.

Start asking about the film - who was that? did you think that was Michael? because I did,nt. There is talk on my forum of the guy who sang 'just cant stop loving you' and I took one look at him and was utterly shocked. When you know how Michael Jackson moves you know that is NOT how he moves.

All the same who am I to say anything.

But dont beat yourself up Sheila - please dont be hurt about everything - everything is for a reason. Perhaps even some of those reasons people wont understand but sometimes some things have to be done.

Michael did,nt want to tour and he did,nt want to be without his children. All Michael wanted was to be a daddy and unfortunately people placed too many demands on him and he was forced to compromise.
Sometimes compromise is sacrifice. Think about this a little and try to heal your heart.

Sorry for two big posts. Psychic Cherokee Billie Affraid I couldnt find an embarrassed smiley so I had to use this one. xx

Much love Empathyx
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Post by Peace Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:24 pm

This is all very interesting. Hey guys, how about June Gatlin, Michael's spiritual healer? Any news from her?
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Post by EMPATHY Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:59 pm

angell wrote:Im
finding all the spiritual 'contact' with Michael fascinating -we have
had Vox, Cherokee Billie, Derek Acorah, quite a few people actually all
claiming that they have 'reached/contacted/spoken' with Michael in
spirit. Well Derek Acorah did,nt because Tarot told me that when I
asked - it was denied that he had spoken to Michael. Psychic Cherokee Billie Kopfschuettel

Some
of you know that I do tarot, I post here sometimes, my tarot has given
me Michael in two worlds and it has given many instances that have been
completely ACCURATE. There are backup reports to the tarot I write and
proofs of what I have written from events that happen after.

I
dont think anybody can claim anything unless their work is proven and I
know some of my work has been confirmed . So my question would be -
whatever the clairvoyantes are claiming how can they PROVE what they
are saying?


And furthermore - I have not had a death card for Michael Jackson yet.

Explain that?
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Hi
Empathy! is it possible to look into as to whether what they are saying
is true? whether they really contacted MJ's spirit? Just a question =)


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I respect very much the Tarot and if your readings were proved I believe you. My aunt also plays Tarot, I asked her about the death card and she told me that it's not everytime that it appears for someone who's dead. She said that the death card also represents a big changing. So, I'm thinking here: the cards are saying that Michael is in 2 worlds and the death card didn't appear. Maybe this means that he hasn't finished his mission with the people of Earth yet and that he keeps helping us over here. He can do this from spirit, he doesn't need to be "alive" to keep on with his mission.. And this might be the reason why he's sending messages to us fans..

Could you ask the Tarot again about Mrs. Cherokee? Pray first before you do it, dear.. Sometimes bad spirits can get in the way and make you confuse..

Hello Angel I have asked again for you. I have world reversed and this tells me that my first assumption is correct. This card is regret and disappointment and a failure to reach goals - and I therefore maintain that Cherokee did not in fact talk to Michael Joe Jacksons spirit.

I am sorry but this is the third time I have posed that question and each reading is a negative. Her thoughts are not travelling to him whatever you may believe and I apologise but the tarot is not wrong three times in a row. I think Cherokee must have a loving heart as she has written many beautiful words for fans. Perhaps her mission is to give words of comfort but even if that is the case - it still doesnt reverse what the tarot has said. I am sorry but that is what I have been given. Perhaps another reader should be consulted if you are not pleased with this.
I also want to mention that the world card is incompleteness and a lack of vision which also seems to stand by my first impressions.

The tarot does,nt call up spirits Angell, it works on vibration and energy - I am genuine when I say that tarot is a mystery it most certainly is but I trust what it tells me because it has been right too many times.

Michael at the moment is a mystery - but the tarot is casting a great deal of doubt that he is in a tomb in Holly Terrace - if it turned out to be the case that he was - I would be completely surprised and would be the very first person to apologise to anyone for being terribly wrong.
Tarot is sharp, humourous and answers with integrity on most matters. As long as a completely unbiased question is asked it will always answer.

I hope this helps Angel. My genuine respect to you.

Empathy.
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Post by Peace Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:08 pm

Just wondering, are any of you a seventh child? That makes you more perceptive to spirits I heard. Well Michael was!
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Post by mjboogie Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:55 pm

June Gatlin, perfect place to start
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Post by Red Velvet Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:25 am

sorry, but did Sylvia Brown also predict that Michael was going to jail in 2005? I read on another fan site that she did.

There's a reference to it I found online:

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Sylvia_Browne


3. Introduction to predictions

Although Browne has made many public predictions, according to James Randi her accuracy rate has been no better than educated guessing. [21] Her predictions include: that Bill Clinton was falsely accused in the Lewinsky scandal (proved incorrect); that George H. W. Bush would defeat Bill Clinton in the 1992 U.S. presidential election (Bush lost); that Bill Bradley would win the 2000 U.S. presidential election with the Reform Party coming in second; [22] the "hiding in caves" of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein (found in a spider hole in the ground); the death of bin Laden (later reported by the Central Intelligence Agency as incorrect); a verdict of guilty in the 2005 child molestation trial of Michael Jackson [23] (Jackson was acquitted); and the cure and prevention of breast cancer by the end of 1999. [24]

Janet McDonald, an author of books for young adults, describes her experience receiving a psychic reading via phone, for which she paid Browne $700. Browne predicted a "really long life" for McDonald, who died of cancer at 53 just over four years later. [25] [26] [27]

In 2005 Browne told Newsweek that Larry King, a believer in the paranormal, has asked her to perform private psychic readings. [28]

On September 3, 2001, Browne stated on Larry King Live that she would accept the James Randi Educational Foundation's $1,000,000 challenge to demonstrate supernatural abilities in a controlled scientific test. [21] [29] As of 2009, Browne has claimed that she has found it increasingly difficult to contact the Foundation or respond to Randi's enquiries.

A January 2007 episode of Anderson Cooper 360 featured Linda Rossi, Browne's business manager for 35 years, and James Randi. Randi proposed that Browne undergo a test where she would provide readings for ten sympathetic people, each of whom would then identify their own reading among the ten. Rossi declined on Browne's behalf. [30]

Of her predictions that might be considered accurate, many are predictions that are easy to make.[citation needed] Examples from her list of predictions for the 21st century include: [22] "Elizabeth Taylor ends up back at the Betty Ford Center"; "Neither Warren Beatty nor Donald Trump has any success in politics"; "Air travel reaches an all-time high, but because of overbookings and poor service, the airlines will need to revamp their scheduling practices".
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Post by MJSmile4Us Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:50 am

I don't believe her either..the thing is Michael is a perfectionist as we all know..and I read somewhere (probably an article posted on this site) that Michael would have not liked the idea of his fans seeing the rehearsals as they are unfinished and these footages were going to be kept for Michael's viewing only after the O2 concerts were over...

so for Cherokee to say that he told her he was happy about people seeing TII and proud of his work is a bogus - Michael even said in one of his interviews a few years back that he was not satisfied with his performance at Motown 25th Anniversary concert bcoz he wished he had done the triple spin after his moonwalk instead of a double one..and he also said that he can never say that he is done with something or put up his grammys that he won in his bedroom bcoz that would mean (to him) that he had nothnig else to improve...
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Post by looking4truth Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:04 am

EMPATHY wrote:
marsheliamorgan wrote:hey empathy,lets not forget sylvia browne also said SHE has had contact with michael
and THATS really upsetting to me,as i have always had faith in her,however,i am NOT going with michael really being gone,i cant accept it,maybe i am in denial,but,imho IF he was going to "chat"or whatever wouldnt he contact someone alittle closer and in his life,as HIS children wouldnt he find someway or someone to contact THEM and comfort them etc?i dont know,this is dishearting,EMPATHY,is there anyway you could repost your site?i REALLY need some help/faith here,i am fading thanks shelia

Hello Sheila, I can feel you hurting all over this post and I wish I could do something to put things right. I try to create some comfort for my own forumers because I felt I had a little mission to complete to help Michaels fans. There will be a time to move on but I am just fulfilling what I feel I have to do for the time being.

What I can say to you is not that helpful but theres an element of trust in it that you need to listen hard to - the words are ' to let go'. People think oh my god hes dead etc etc, well tarot has never told me that and I have asked plenty on it but I get a gentle prod to ask people to 'let go' and I just get that feeling that we need to do that. Not to stop caring, not to stop buying his records, and not to ever forget him but for the time being thats the information I have.

Think of it this way. Lets do 'ifs'. If Michael were alive would it benefit him for people digging up information as to where he might be? If he were alive would it be a good thing for people to know that if he didnt want them to. Think of the whole world in the knowledge that he is not here anymore? Does he have any enemies? would there be reasons to be deceased? There are dozens of 'ifs' and when I get a message like ' let go' but with a smile attached to it as a message for fans I have to try and put that over. Michael in the tarot told me he is at the top of his game and on top of the world . More things will be revealed as time goes on and dont believe anything about Conrad Murray because that guy did NOT kill Michael its a total nonsense. Theres a tarot from ages ago that saw what people were saying and dismissed it. He did,nt commit suicde either so you can all stop worrying about that.

Start asking about the film - who was that? did you think that was Michael? because I did,nt. There is talk on my forum of the guy who sang 'just cant stop loving you' and I took one look at him and was utterly shocked. When you know how Michael Jackson moves you know that is NOT how he moves.

All the same who am I to say anything.

But dont beat yourself up Sheila - please dont be hurt about everything - everything is for a reason. Perhaps even some of those reasons people wont understand but sometimes some things have to be done.

Michael did,nt want to tour and he did,nt want to be without his children. All Michael wanted was to be a daddy and unfortunately people placed too many demands on him and he was forced to compromise.
Sometimes compromise is sacrifice. Think about this a little and try to heal your heart.

Sorry for two big posts. Psychic Cherokee Billie Affraid I couldnt find an embarrassed smiley so I had to use this one. xx

Much love Empathyx

It's funny you got that message. I had a feeling last night to let go. That it's okay to let go and that I will find out more details and essentially the truth when I'm supposed to. And that life and death are one in the same so he has not go anywhere. Obviously, I didn't quite let go yet but I will slowly in my own time. Smile Thanks for posting. I was thinking about posting a message about us slowly letting go but I ended up not posting it.
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Post by EMPATHY Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:07 am

Just to let you know I had a lady come to my forum who said that Vox and Derek Acorah were not telling the truth about MJ but said that Bonnie Vent and Cherokee Billie were.

My readings say that none of them have been in contact with Michael whatsoever but today I decided I would ask again considering that the lady who posted on my forum said she had been doing tarot for 30 years.

All my tarot has dates of authentication going back to March 16 2009. Many things have been accurate - I never know whether they will be or not at the time of posting, only time can tell, but I know in 20 years I have had more hits then misses.

However, because someone writes on my forum contradictory to all the tarot I have had and the accuracies I have had and has said that they have worked with tarot 10 more years then myself I have to bear what they say in mind. I always give the benefit of the doubt even to myself because I can never say anything is 100 per cent accurate UNLESS reports back it up which categorically they have already in some instances.

Today then I asked when Michael passed. I received this answer and I am very sorry to all the spiritualists but it does,nt back what they say up anymore then any of my other tarot does. So I leave this here for other forum members to read and feel exactly what I do and to see exactly what I do. Its not rocket science - its practical and practically speaking it makes a lot of sense.

http://epitarot.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=tarotnov&thread=1720&page=1

To everyone here I send you all love. I saw Michael in retirement in my tarot. I do not agree it was him throughout the TII film and I do not agree that he was altogether enamoured of his rehearsals made into a film either. Truth is I need to keep my passionate feelings to myself and not push forward righteousness about the tarot - but I am not prepared to accept spiritualists contacting Michael because I dont see that - it does,nt mean they are not contacting people but it is,nt him - and nothing will back them up in my tarot because I have tried to find positivity on it and nothing will give me creedence for them. So I dont know what else to say on this because how can you contact the 'dead man' ?who is in this tarot link above WHEN it does,nt confirm it - If anyone can tell me that I would be MOST enlightened.
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Post by Red Velvet Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:14 am

MJSmile4Us wrote:I don't believe her either..the thing is Michael is a perfectionist as we all know..and I read somewhere (probably an article posted on this site) that Michael would have not liked the idea of his fans seeing the rehearsals as they are unfinished and these footages were going to be kept for Michael's viewing only after the O2 concerts were over...

so for Cherokee to say that he told her he was happy about people seeing TII and proud of his work is a bogus - Michael even said in one of his interviews a few years back that he was not satisfied with his performance at Motown 25th Anniversary concert bcoz he wished he had done the triple spin after his moonwalk instead of a double one..and he also said that he can never say that he is done with something or put up his grammys that he won in his bedroom bcoz that would mean (to him) that he had nothnig else to improve...
While I agree with what you're saying about MJ being a perfectionist (as evidenced by Motown 25 spin, moonwalk etc.) I get the feeling that MJ basically accomplished all that sort of thing to his own satisfaction. He always said the only person he competes with is himself and he also said, "don't stop 'til you get enough" and I believe he honestly got "enough" of singing and dancing to audience satisfaction. He said in Ebony, November 2007, that he did not want to spend his latter years performing on stage, he said he wants to work "behind the scenes" and This Is It, the movie, gave me the feeling he's doing just that. I also got that feeling from the '02 press conference, when he said, "this is it, I mean, this is really it - I love you, you have to know that"

I got the feeling he was saying, listen guys, thank you for all your love and sorry about this, but I has done had enough!
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Post by city.gal1 Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:16 am

Hi Empathy, thanks for returning and sharing your insights. A lot of what you say are things that I have believed and felt in my "gut" for awhile now. It's nice to have some confirmation of my personal beliefs involving the "death".

BTW, I don't remember if you posted on this or not. Have you ever gotten an answer using tarot as to if the "death" was a planned hoax or something other gone awry or even a way for MJ to get out of danger?

My mind is on overload and even though I've gone through the forum I haven't been able to see anything on this.

Thanks.
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Post by EMPATHY Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:37 am

Hello Citygal, all the readings you can just flick through here -

http://epitarot.proboards.com/index.cgi


There are two boards one for Michael and one for other people like the family and whoever else has been in the news or connected that I asked a question on.

There are some things that cant be divulged. I did say this quite early on in June. It would,nt be conducive to protection of Michael at all. He does have to be protected even at this stage of the game and my last tarot here was a step too far but the spiritualists claims made me feel I had to re-look at the tarot despite everything I already have been given.

I think there is a big emotional twist to the situation with Michael - he had a shock coming to him and it might not have been something he was prepared for at all. It is all in the tarot between 16 March and 14 August. They were all the early findings. People have tried to say that Michael committed suicide but I dont think that is true whatsoever. Michael wanted the a family business that would endure and that would also endure for his children. I think even though Michael knew what the problems were with showbusiness - he brought up his children with excessive knowledge - those films were a way of showing them what is involved and what you have to do to be successful - and how successful in fact he was. I would not be in the least surprised that the children go into showbusiness but it would be with Michaels sanction on it and NOT the choice of the rest of the Jacksons. I do not think though that he was happy with the content of that film - because it was not perfectionism at work and I think that he lost control of the project and got quite fed up about it in truth.

I have not yet looked at tarot on the children but will do at some point -however with them there has to be a degree of courteousness and protection as they are children and as a mother myself its a natural instinct to refrain from full revelations if I see something unwise to print.

One thing to remember is the power of the mind. The mind is a wonderful instrument, some people know how to use it and some people dont. Michael was a master of perfection - he fought for that perfection all his life even from a young age he was overuling other peoples suggestions in his own jackson five group to get across a better idea and being very successful with that. This man was a leader and not a follower. People dont change overnight - but Michael did need to change certain things - the main thing he needed to change was the lasting smoulder of bad karma - Michael had a political mind - hes no fool and is and always will be 10 times smarter then anyone else. Does that make him manipulative and cunning - well yes it does but when one has to survive and when one wishes to be in control of what they do and what they want to give - they sometimes have to play the Magician.
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Post by city.gal1 Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:53 pm

EMPATHY wrote:Hello Citygal, all the readings you can just flick through here -

http://epitarot.proboards.com/index.cgi



There are some things that cant be divulged. I did say this quite early on in June. It would,nt be conducive to protection of Michael at all. He does have to be protected even at this stage of the game and my last tarot here was a step too far but the spiritualists claims made me feel I had to re-look at the tarot despite everything I already have been given.

I think there is a big emotional twist to the situation with Michael - he had a shock coming to him and it might not have been something he was prepared for at all. It is all in the tarot between 16 March and 14 August. They were all the early findings. People have tried to say that Michael committed suicide but I dont think that is true whatsoever...


I think you sort of answered my question(s)!
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Post by Peace Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:46 am

All of this worries me...
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