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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Léa on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:31 pm

This sounds logic.
Beacuse they protect very well their things, it may be the reason why it's hard to prove (well, for us) that Michael is still alive.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by hesouttamylife on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:51 pm

Ijustcarntstoplovingu wrote:Cause we might give the game away and put MJ at risk.



I think I'm getting way too involved in this. I tend to delve deep. Maybe I'll let this one stew for awhile. Thanks for helping with putting on the brakes.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjlmpicons on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:00 pm

Very interesting and plausible plot.

I think I remember in the movie, TII, MJ uses the phrase

"let it simmer". That's what I am inclined to do.

Patience and time will unfold where we go from here.

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by hesouttamylife on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm

mjlmpicons wrote:Very interesting and plausible plot.

I think I remember in the movie, TII, MJ uses the phrase

"let it simmer". That's what I am inclined to do.

Patience and time will unfold where we go from here.

WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand.

OMG I AM SPEECHLESS. THIS PICTURE I INTEND TO STEAL AND SALIVATE OVER IT FOREVER. IT IS BEAUTIFUL!
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Sweet1 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:22 pm

I agree that we don't need to put anyone at risk. Apparently, someone knows what has been discovered is right on the dime. IMHO, we don't know the ppl monitoring this site. We don't know how high profile they maybe. Just my thoughts!Keep the Faith!
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by hesouttamylife on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:29 pm

I conclude it's all for love, l.o.v.e. Michael, I love you more!
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjboogie on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:42 pm

Well dont know. Have to research more? But would they legally be able to do this? Also remember the fan that called LAPD? and he laughed. OK honestly I just feel something is not right with LAPD. You know they have a shady past anyway right? Also....... have they given any press conferences regarding the investigation? Has the coroner gave a press conference? What did the detective mean when he told that fan sometime in January? I know they have to take the case before the DA right. And you know those dates for court have to be set. So maybe that is why its taking soooo long. O r am I off on this? How about someone research this a little bit more ideas?
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjlmpicons on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:48 pm

OMG I AM SPEECHLESS. THIS PICTURE I INTEND TO STEAL AND SALIVATE OVER IT FOREVER. IT IS BEAUTIFUL![/quote]
@ hesoutamylife....... this is a lovely picture , one of my faves.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjfan on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:01 pm

I posted this same theory, a DEA sting operation a couple of months ago on MJHD. HOWEVER, I did not know about the fact that police officers had actually done things like this before. THAT is very interesting and lends even more credence to the idea.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by hesouttamylife on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:04 pm

Michael should never have to sit alone in his theater with his pjs on. How totally WRONG! But how undeniably gorgeous he is Wink
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by gemnpearl on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:15 pm

After going over countless theories for months now, this is the most "realistic" in my opinion. It even ties into Gilda where Mundson fakes it to escape NAZIS. Michael had a lot of enemies, people trying to get his money. This theory is the tightest.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by juliet on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:33 pm

Speaking of LAPD, remember the Memorial of MJ donated money ($90,000) for the LAPD fallen LA police afficers.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by TinkerBell on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:01 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:I found this post on Larry King Live blogs and it took my breath away.....this would explain ALOT!!!!

helenNovember 11th, 2009 1:39 pm ET


@ Still Me

The court website is lasuperiorcourt (dot) org. Case # is BP117321. As for your question, I don't think the LAPD is investigating a "homicide." The LAPD website says as of 08/28/09, "there will be no further updates regarding this investigation." I think the LAPD initiated the hoax in order to conduct a DEA sting operation in conjunction with the DEA and also to possibly unravel a murder plot because Michael had clearly stated he was "scared for his life."

Below are two articles that CNN keeps deleting every time I post them. The first is from a case in Florida where the police staged a murder and leaked it to the press in order to unravel a murder plot. The article can be found here. Just copy and paste in your browser and take out all the empty spaces and replace the (dot) with a real dot.

[url=http://]http://[/url] abc news (dot) go (dot) com/ GMA /News/story?id=289058&page=1&page=1

The second one I have posted is from Russia where the same thing happened, police staged the murder and leaked it to the press. That article can be found here. Again, you must take out all the empty spaces and replace (dot) with a real dot.

[url=http://www]http://www[/url] (dot) timesonline (dot) co (dot) uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6157920 (dot) ece

It happens a lot and there are many, many other articles that can be found where the police have done the same thing.

In my opinion, this is why there is no ongoing investigation or update on the investigation into Dr. Murray. He played the "role of the informant" to kick-start the DEA sting operation and possibly the investigation into unraveling the murder plot if there indeed was one.




[url=http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/11/michael-jacksons-burial-cost-1-million-including-35000-for-burial-outfit-16000-for-flowers/#comments]http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/11/michael-jacksons-burial-cost-1-million-including-35000-for-burial-outfit-16000-for-flowers/#comments[/url]


Excellent post! It sure would explain allot of the weird inconsistencies.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Christiana on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:34 pm

annieisnotokey wrote:Very interesting AND feasible.
Thanks for posting it!

I agree. I have always felt that the only way for MJ to avoid any legal ramifications that might result from the hoax is if the LAPD and/or government are in on everything. Obviously, if that is the case, then legal consequences would be nil. This makes perfect sense! Nothing else really does to me. I don't buy into MJ doing this on his own to find privacy or freedom or anything like that. It has to be a measure of last resort to protect his life, and perhaps the lives of his children and family.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by deedee75 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:48 pm

I can believe this properly why his family are acting the way they are and some of our clues have pointed out that the LAPD are involved in some way
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:51 pm

Ijustcarntstoplovingu wrote:Cause we might give the game away and put MJ at risk.

That is what I think -this is what I was trying to say on anothe thread-not that we shouldnt discuss it but maybe not in such an open way with everything out there-we dont know WHO may be watching our forums or youtube vids.We could be tipping off the enemy for all we know. We would hate to be part of screwing things up.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:53 pm

deedee75 wrote:I can believe this properly why his family are acting the way they are and some of our clues have pointed out that the LAPD are involved in some way
All the family may not know if any of them
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by LiberianGirl on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:55 pm

Guys I don't believe that Michael is murdered or he is dead. We should think about this always >>> THEN WHO IS THE GENIUS WHO HAS BEEN GIVING US ALL THE CLUES SINCE HIS "DEATH"??? Nobody could think like Michael and give us those clues Wink
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by neverlandprincess on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:57 pm

@liberiangirl...I havent seen anybody on this post say that he was dead..
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Léa on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:39 am

I don't believe we are putting Michael at risk.

If the LAPD is behind this, well you know how well their protect their things, and all the means they have to succeed in protecting Michael. I don't think we could be dangerous for his safety.

And I agree that Michael is the one who is giving clues to us.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by ilprincipe on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:00 am

It's interesting and a possibility and would explain a lot Smile
I really hope there will be some relevation soon...
can't wait any longer
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by yspadda on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:11 am

I think if the hoax is a LAPD thing, sites like MJHD and this one are a pain in their @ss, because we're helping the enemies.

And if it's a LAPD thing, it's not a game. And if it's not a game, Michael wouldn't take the risk to ruin the investigation and put his family and himself in danger by spreading clues on the internet.
He would wait until the investigation is closed and then come back and explain everything.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Léa on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:25 am

yspadda wrote:I think if the hoax is a LAPD thing, sites like MJHD and this one are a pain in their @ss, because we're helping the enemies.

And if it's a LAPD thing, it's not a game. And if it's not a game, Michael wouldn't take the risk to ruin the investigation and put his family and himself in danger by spreading clues on the internet.
He would wait until the investigation is closed and then come back and explain everything.

So you think we made out all the clues he is supposed to give ?
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by yspadda on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:44 am

[quote="Léa"]
yspadda wrote:So you think we made out all the clues he is supposed to give ?

No, I just think the clues and the LAPD thing don't match together.

Either Michael, helped by the LAPD, faked his death to protect himself and his family, and in this case he wouldn't give clues.
Either he faked his death for some other reason, and gave clues about it in the movie.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Melzy777 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:46 am

Dr Murray's shady past may mean that in this case he has struck a deal with the detectives to play a role and help them and in return has the charges against himself for prior offences dropped?? idk..
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:50 am

Wouldn't they have made sure there weren't any glaring inconsistencies if this was planned by the LAPD? And how does Chief Bratton fit in? You would think the last thing he'd do is resign if this is the case.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by badloving on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:05 am

hesouttamylife wrote:Michael should never have to sit alone in his theater with his pjs on. How totally WRONG! But how undeniably gorgeous he is


thinking about that makes me really sad...
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Léa on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:11 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:Wouldn't they have made sure there weren't any glaring inconsistencies if this was planned by the LAPD? And how does Chief Bratton fit in? You would think the last thing he'd do is resign if this is the case.

I'm have second thought about it. I don't know what to believe because everyone seems right. But it's impossiible.

I used to think Michael faked it, then hide somewere. With his children which would explain their behavior. And I used to believ ehe will not come back because of all the hate he would then have to face.

But now I don't know, if the LAPD is behind this, then yes, why so many inconsistencies ?

and do you think it's possible to fae your own death that way if there is not something higher (like LAPD) behind you ?
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:22 am

If they didnt do it they dont seem to bothered about solving this case do they just a something to think about
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by hesouttamylife on Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:02 pm

which theory are we NOT discussing anymore? I don't want to rock the boat.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by ishealive on Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:28 pm

This is a very good theory and I hope this is the one and MJ can come back with the world on his side.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by juliet on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:32 pm

I guess watching too many movies on Crimes Scenes and Law Enforcements either enlightens you in your speculations or takes you off from the proper perspective.

I must think properlyyyyyy
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjssoulmate on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:37 pm

Lea wrote:
But now I don't know, if the LAPD is behind this, then yes, why so many inconsistencies ?

Because it's the LAPD!
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Hgurl789 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:56 pm

thats the end of this, right? he's dead, said it and move on. no more hope.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by ONESTEPCLOSER on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:58 pm

Hgurl789 wrote:thats the end of this, right? he's dead, said it and move on. no more hope.

NO ITS NOT THE END, ITS THE BEGINNING. If you are feeling that he is dead, then why are you CHOOSING to be on a 'MICHAEL JACKSON DEATH HOAX INVESTIGATORS' SITE. Grrr, just gets my back up :@
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjssoulmate on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:08 pm

thats the end of this, right? he's dead, said it and move on. no more hope.


How did you jump to that conclusion?

You are not a true believer, are you?

This is not the end, this is just the beginning!
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by hesouttamylife on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:20 pm

You know, it is so sad how Americans of which I am one, take everything the government issues out at face value. I for one believe that absolutely nothing the govt is involved in happens without reason. There are no incidentals or accidentals. There is a method to the madness. None of us were in on the goings on in LA on 6/25/09; however the inconsistencies are so glaring one would be foolish to believe much if anything that was reported on that day and it appears everyday since. There is something wrong with this picture. Period. I don't know what it is because I wasn't in that house, in that room. But I know something in the water is foul. It serves me no purpose to be on the side of fence where Michael is just "dead" when it could turn out either way. I would rather stand on the side of reason where people are at least trying to put the pieces of the puzzle, which it certainly is, together in favor of a more positive resolution. I give Michael's ability to pull this off more credence than the LAPD's ability to pull the wool over my eyes. Michael is a genius king
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by neverlandprincess on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:21 pm

How in the world can you get on "LAPD STAGED ( proper word here is STAGED) MJ death" and come up with "its over he is dead"
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by SomeoneInTheDarkForMe on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:37 pm

It all makes perfect sense. Too perfect actually, but if it's the case, are we not endangering the operation by being so nosey and smart? Suspect
Everything points towards this theory actually ie: his basically saying goodbye to us with the TII announcements(saying "this is it" so many times and adamantly reaffirming his love for us), the speech in the movie, the old gangster movies, with plots involving faking death....even having it occur in LA fits in perfectly as our police are known for procrastinating and screwing everything up .

The links wouldn't work so I searched for more cases like this, found these:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6157920.ece

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-19121462-police-faked-murder-to-trap-cabbie.do

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/01/pollak/index.html
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:54 am

neverlandprincess wrote:How in the world can you get on "LAPD STAGED ( proper word here is STAGED) MJ death" and come up with "its over he is dead"

It's funny, because her alto ego, another user name she posts under, is a believer. Laughing Some people. Rolling Eyes
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Léa on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:14 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:
neverlandprincess wrote:How in the world can you get on "LAPD STAGED ( proper word here is STAGED) MJ death" and come up with "its over he is dead"

It's funny, because her alto ego, another user name she posts under, is a believer. Laughing Some people. Rolling Eyes

Maybe she didn't want to say he is dead but that the way the LAPD wants us to think " yeah it's over he's dead"

and , why did you tell me that LAPD make a lot of inconsticencies ?
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by SomeoneInTheDarkForMe on Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:43 am

LAPD suck. They are known for their laziness and stupidity. Anything questionable would be simply chalked up to that fact, the perfect coverup for a hoax.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:12 am

i dont just think the lapd suck in england our police really stink you can solve the crime yourselve before they get there
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by jpresley on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:04 pm

I'm not worried about blowing MJ's cover or anything of the sort, because all of the information culled together - thus far - is publicly available. Another thing I think we lose sight of is that everything we have discussed on this forum has ACTUALLY happened in plain view of the entire world. If the intent of this hoax (and I do 100% believe this is a death hoax) were to spirit Michael (and eventually his children because there is no way in hell he would do anything w/o them) away forevermore, that is in fact what would have been done. There simply would have been nothing to question, period. We would grieve the loss of this wonderful entertainer and even more wonderful human being, perhaps forever, but we would MOVE ON eventually as people do.

Playing devils advocate for a second, let's say the intent WAS to remove Michael from public life forever, but things started to escalate and the hoax was initiated prior to everything being in place. Would it not make sense that at some point those involved would slowly begin to pick up the pieces and cover their tracks? For instance, would they not produce a valid death cert w/ appropriate signatures, as opposed to releasing a document that has everything material blocked out? Would they not 'leak' information reportedly from witnesses at UCLA that day? Would they not address the varying EMT reports regarding Michael's condition? Would they not address WHY CM has not been arrested even though he has admitted to giving MJ controlled substances he was not authorized to administer in California? At the very least, would they not give a press conference acknowledging the various inconsistencies and letting the public know they are on the case? The simple answer to these questions is "yes". It's called Damage Control and NO ONE is even pretending to do that.

I don't claim to know what is going on, but something IS going on and it stinks to high heaven.
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by mjgirl86 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:09 pm

jpresley wrote:I'm not worried about blowing MJ's cover or anything of the sort, because all of the information culled together - thus far - is publicly available. Another thing I think we lose sight of is that everything we have discussed on this forum has ACTUALLY happened in plain view of the entire world. If the intent of this hoax (and I do 100% believe this is a death hoax) were to spirit Michael (and eventually his children because there is no way in hell he would do anything w/o them) away forevermore, that is in fact what would have been done. There simply would have been nothing to question, period. We would grieve the loss of this wonderful entertainer and even more wonderful human being, perhaps forever, but we would MOVE ON eventually as people do.

Playing devils advocate for a second, let's say the intent WAS to remove Michael from public life forever, but things started to escalate and the hoax was initiated prior to everything being in place. Would it not make sense that at some point those involved would slowly begin to pick up the pieces and cover their tracks? For instance, would they not produce a valid death cert w/ appropriate signatures, as opposed to releasing a document that has everything material blocked out? Would they not 'leak' information reportedly from witnesses at UCLA that day? Would they not address the varying EMT reports regarding Michael's condition? Would they not address WHY CM has not been arrested even though he has admitted to giving MJ controlled substances he was not authorized to administer in California? At the very least, would they not give a press conference acknowledging the various inconsistencies and letting the public know they are on the case? The simple answer to these questions is "yes". It's called Damage Control and NO ONE is even pretending to do that.

I don't claim to know what is going on, but something IS going on and it stinks to high heaven.

jpresley, what an amazing post!

Something definitely is going on, and some pieces are for sure constantly being picked up, and tons of tracks are being covered...

They are making this a serious difficult investigation for us, sometimes. Other times, things are left wide open for us to say, "Ohh! Looky here!"

50/50 depending on what area it's in.

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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:19 pm

well cassandra is answering again and it is the CIA and at the mo mj is in argentina
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by Léa on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:35 pm

SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:well cassandra is answering again and it is the CIA and at the mo mj is in argentina
That's what she says. We do't know if it's true
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by jpresley on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:41 pm

mjgirl86 wrote:

jpresley, what an amazing post!

Something definitely is going on, and some pieces are for sure constantly being picked up, and tons of tracks are being covered...

They are making this a serious difficult investigation for us, sometimes. Other times, things are left wide open for us to say, "Ohh! Looky here!"

50/50 depending on what area it's in. [/quote]

Thank you!
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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by jpresley on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:45 pm

Léa wrote:
SPAKKLE29FUL wrote:well cassandra is answering again and it is the CIA and at the mo mj is in argentina
That's what she says. We do't know if it's true

I don't think we can really believe or give credence to someone that claims to know anything about Michael over the internet. Although, my good friend Annieisnotokey would love it if Michael was in Argentina. She would hunt him down and finally we would all know DA TROOT!!!

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Re: Did the LAPD stage MJ's murder?

Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:08 pm

i dont believe cassandra ,she wont answer basic questions ,but says where he is please
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