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Post by Christiana on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:30 pm

I figured I'd post this in a new thread so everyone who was waiting on this information would be sure to find it. Unfortunately, it's bad news. Here's what Intelius wrote to me about the search for the phone number from the phone that called 911 on June 25:

Our Search experts were not able to provide the Reverse Phone Lookup Report you requested on November 10th, 2009 for the order number 25093573. Your order was cancelled and any charges for this report will be refunded.


My only guess is that the number had to be unlisted/private. Otherwise I'd think I should be able to get the information??? I may try one other site to get the information, just to make sure it's not a fluke thing. Do you guys think that's a good idea?
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by mjssoulmate on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:40 pm

Alberto Alvarez wouldn't be using the same number anymore, after it was seen on the screen. Would you?

It has probably been reassigned.
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by DarkYetLovely on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:40 pm

Oh bummer.

Sounds like you might as well drop it, though. There was that one poster that kept telling us they already looked into this and found that it belonged to the bodyguard... Alvarez was it?
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Post by DarkYetLovely on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:41 pm

Ha,

beat me to it.
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by juliet on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:43 pm

CHRISTIANA, thanks for your hard work.
It's a private/unlisted phone and the info you will get from the sites listed will probably give out the same info. Remember, everything now is computerized.
But it's worth a try, if you don't mind - thank you in advance.

Private infos like this can be taken if someone knows somebody from the certain agencies that hold this type of infos. Somebody who could do/find not under the radar or something.
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by mjssoulmate on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:51 pm

It was Alberto Alvarez' number. I traced it long before the media ever released his name. Don't waste your money. But thanks anyway.
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Christiana on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:55 pm

mjssoulmate wrote:It was Alberto Alvarez' number. I traced it long before the media ever released his name. Don't waste your money. But thanks anyway.

I did mention in the thread were hashing this out in the other day that it was Alvarez' phone number. It had been reported in several articles once the photo surfaced that it was his phone number and that he'd changed numbers after that. But several people were wanting to do the search, just to be sure, which is why I volunteered. But no money was wasted--I got a refund since no info was found for my search.

Curious though, if his number was private (which is likely) how did you trace his number when you did?
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by mjssoulmate on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:05 pm

I did a reverse phone look up and it gave me his name and location as Arrowhead, CA. It also said it was a cellular number.
Obviously that was before the media made it public as to who the caller was.

And it was free!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:33 pm

What I found out on this picture:


The original Phone Call came in at 12:21:04 from 9641 Sunset Blvd.....

9641 Sunset Blvd is the adress of the Beverly Hills Hotel!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:37 pm

Kirsche,

OMG!!! WTF! No way!! What could this mean?
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:38 pm

IDK... maybe Michael was already at the hotel when alvarez called 911
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:42 pm

How could they be so stupid and not see this info in the pic before it was published!!! This is great!! I love this kind of stupidity!!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by kdkennedy74 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:43 pm

That makes sense. He is already out of the house so he risks noone seeing him leave and if Alvarez checked into the hotel (even using an alias) then Michael could have come in through another entrance in disguise. Remember that Alvarez was missing for a few days after all of this happened as well and he had been with Michael for years so it is logical to me that Michael would have trusted him to help him get in place whatever he needed.
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by rowdyangel on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:46 pm

WTF? Can this address be seen on the other pics of this laptop screen? The pic above is very very clear.
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by MJhunny on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:56 pm

Kirsche wrote:What I found out on this picture:


The original Phone Call came in at 12:21:04 from 9641 Sunset Blvd.....

9641 Sunset Blvd is the adress of the Beverly Hills Hotel!


http://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/hotels/venue/5700/hotels-beverly-hills-hotel-amp-bungalows WTF???????????????????????????????????
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:04 pm

HOPE lives ,so the adventure continues good work
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by labkomj7 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:11 pm

whatta?!!! What a Face
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by See on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:15 pm

So the telnr. was registerd to a hotel...They (911 emergency) traced it to the hotel... But nobody said any adress during the 911 call....
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by MJLover1990 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:16 pm

WHAT!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by EarthAngel90 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:17 pm

The Search still continues ..... We Detectives are on the move!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Confused on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:18 pm

NO WAY??? Can somebody confirm this..?? How didn't any of us see this before....If this is true then the most important evidence has been in front of our noses all this time!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by icy55 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:21 pm

OMG! So that means the call was made from a HOTEL?!?! How is that possible! It's suppose to be from Michael's home aint it! Someone please confirm with me. THanks!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by mjanna on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:22 pm

Great find Smile Thank you so much Smile


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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Sweet1 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:22 pm

Thanks Kirsche,
This is great. Personally, I like the fact that they goofed. Michael had to be at the location of the caller. I believe he could have been at the Beverly Hills Hotel or wherever Alvarez was at the time. It had to have been a double used for his escape. That is the only way this scenario can be explained. Thanks again! Keep the Faith!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by rowdyangel on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:27 pm

Confused wrote:NO WAY??? Can somebody confirm this..?? How didn't any of us see this before....If this is true then the most important evidence has been in front of our noses all this time!

We have seen this pic of the laptop screen showing the details of the 911 call many many times. I even found a thread going back a couple of months which showed the same screen and that shows the address for the Beverley Hills hotel. How the hell did we not notice this before?

Weren't we told by someone that "it was right in front of our eyes" a while ago?

This is driving me crazy. Why hasn't anyone else (the media) picked up on this?

From a rational point of view, the address on that screen - is it definitely saying that is where THIS call originated from? Is it not an address from a previous 911 call that the firetruck may have attended for example?
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:31 pm

See wrote:So the telnr. was registerd to a hotel...They (911 emergency) traced it to the hotel... But nobody said any adress during the 911 call....

wrong! They said the adress of MJ's Mansion. And the Paramedic just repeated in a strange sound "is that carolwood?" Like he was wondering about the adress he was given and the adress the phone call was made from..
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Smelly on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:31 pm

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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:33 pm

that's how I looked like when I found out
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Post by Smelly on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:34 pm

Kirsche wrote:that's how I looked like when I found out

Haha, I hope your eyes are now safely back in your head
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:36 pm

Yes they are, but I'm still so upset that we didn't notice this before!! I mean, we found out so much but not that simple thing?? shit! Okay, but now we got it Smile
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Smelly on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:38 pm

Kirsche wrote:Yes they are, but I'm still so upset that we didn't notice this before!! I mean, we found out so much but not that simple thing?? shit! Okay, but now we got it Smile

That's always the way isn't it?

Great job by the way!
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:38 pm

Thank you very much Smile
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by MJJ1982 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:40 pm

Smelly wrote:

Same here.....
I don't know if this is another address from an earlier case, but if not... WOWWWW
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Confused on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:41 pm

rowdyangel wrote:
Confused wrote:NO WAY??? Can somebody confirm this..?? How didn't any of us see this before....If this is true then the most important evidence has been in front of our noses all this time!

We have seen this pic of the laptop screen showing the details of the 911 call many many times. I even found a thread going back a couple of months which showed the same screen and that shows the address for the Beverley Hills hotel. How the hell did we not notice this before?

Weren't we told by someone that "it was right in front of our eyes" a while ago?

This is driving me crazy. Why hasn't anyone else (the media) picked up on this?

From a rational point of view, the address on that screen - is it definitely saying that is where THIS call originated from? Is it not an address from a previous 911 call that the firetruck may have attended for example?

Hello. And yes I know we've seen it before. I've even looked at it obviously half asleep because I never even saw it let alone think it was weird.. Don't ask me what kind of other exciting things I saw when looking at it ..I am a horrible observant.
Anyway..like you I think it is strange nobody picked up on this..I am still a little cautious ..It feels too good to be true. I am still thinking there is a logical explanation besides the one we have..I prefer the one we have though as it would be AMAZING!


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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by See on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:42 pm

rowdyangel wrote:
Confused wrote:NO WAY??? Can somebody confirm this..?? How didn't any of us see this before....If this is true then the most important evidence has been in front of our noses all this time!

We have seen this pic of the laptop screen showing the details of the 911 call many many times. I even found a thread going back a couple of months which showed the same screen and that shows the address for the Beverley Hills hotel. How the hell did we not notice this before?

Weren't we told by someone that "it was right in front of our eyes" a while ago?

This is driving me crazy. Why hasn't anyone else (the media) picked up on this?

From a rational point of view, the address on that screen - is it definitely saying that is where THIS call originated from? Is it not an address from a previous 911 call that the firetruck may have attended for example?

It was said that Alvarez registerd his telephone number to a hotal...
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by rowdyangel on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:44 pm

Hmmmmm, but if the call came from Alvarez's cell phone, why would it show the address for the Beverley Hills hotel? That doesn't make sense. scratch

(@See: I posted this at the same time as your post about Alvarez registering his phone to a hotel so you already answered my question)


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Post by See on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:44 pm

Kirsche wrote:
See wrote:So the telnr. was registerd to a hotel...They (911 emergency) traced it to the hotel... But nobody said any adress during the 911 call....

wrong! They said the adress of MJ's Mansion. And the Paramedic just repeated in a strange sound "is that carolwood?" Like he was wondering about the adress he was given and the adress the phone call was made from..

Ow sorry missed that, thanks.
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Post by Kuki on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:48 pm

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it! It never hit me like this!
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Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:52 pm

See wrote:
Kirsche wrote:
See wrote:So the telnr. was registerd to a hotel...They (911 emergency) traced it to the hotel... But nobody said any adress during the 911 call....

wrong! They said the adress of MJ's Mansion. And the Paramedic just repeated in a strange sound "is that carolwood?" Like he was wondering about the adress he was given and the adress the phone call was made from..

Ow sorry missed that, thanks.

you're welcome. that's why I told you again Wink
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Post by mjgirl86 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:55 pm

See wrote:
Kirsche wrote:
See wrote:So the telnr. was registerd to a hotel...They (911 emergency) traced it to the hotel... But nobody said any adress during the 911 call....

wrong! They said the adress of MJ's Mansion. And the Paramedic just repeated in a strange sound "is that carolwood?" Like he was wondering about the adress he was given and the adress the phone call was made from..

Ow sorry missed that, thanks.

I missed that too.... WOW

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Post by kdkennedy74 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:56 pm

When you call 911 from a cell phone doesn't it automatically enter the address that you are calling from via GPS in case the caller is unable to speak? If so, that may be why the Beverly Hills Hotel is showing up (since Alvarez is obviously there and not at Carolwood) instead of Michael's address and also would explain why the dispatcher was confused when given the address to go to.
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Post by Thetruth on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:56 pm

Some member managed to trace this call months ago to a hotel (when the phone# was still avaiable), but I didint see anything special about that.
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Post by MJJ1982 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:58 pm

I remember I saw a pic where the phonenumber was visible (they where trying to call it) does anyone know where that topic/pic is?? I can't find it right now...
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Post by See on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:00 pm

kdkennedy74 wrote:When you call 911 from a cell phone doesn't it automatically enter the address that you are calling from via GPS in case the caller is unable to speak? If so, that may be why the Beverly Hills Hotel is showing up (since Alvarez is obviously there and not at Carolwood) instead of Michael's address and also would explain why the dispatcher was confused when given the address to go to.

Do you know that for a fact????????
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Post by Kirsche on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:00 pm

the special thing is: that the caller pretended like he was in the house or in the room with michael. The doctors is talkin in the background....so how can he be at Carolwood when the phone call was made from the beverly hills hotel??
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Post by mjgirl86 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:01 pm

See wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:When you call 911 from a cell phone doesn't it automatically enter the address that you are calling from via GPS in case the caller is unable to speak? If so, that may be why the Beverly Hills Hotel is showing up (since Alvarez is obviously there and not at Carolwood) instead of Michael's address and also would explain why the dispatcher was confused when given the address to go to.

Do you know that for a fact????????

I'd like to know, too????????

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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by kdkennedy74 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:01 pm

I know it works that way here in North Carolina. A friend of mine had an auto accident and couldn't tell them where she was and they were able to find her within a matter of minutes.
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Post by MJJ1982 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:02 pm

See wrote:
kdkennedy74 wrote:When you call 911 from a cell phone doesn't it automatically enter the address that you are calling from via GPS in case the caller is unable to speak? If so, that may be why the Beverly Hills Hotel is showing up (since Alvarez is obviously there and not at Carolwood) instead of Michael's address and also would explain why the dispatcher was confused when given the address to go to.

Do you know that for a fact????????

I know it works in the Netherlands like that....
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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by Grace on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:03 pm

Which could explain finally that Michael had already left Carolwood Drive and stayed with Alvarez at the hotel waiting for the heat to calm down.
If this call was recorded then at the hotel (since the caller's voice is clearer than the dispatcher's voice) and we heard a woman's voice saying "just one minute" this would indicate that the plot was planned by the minute and that they were expecting the heat go up just shortly later at Carolwood.

Hope the lady was the one for Michael worth staying at the hotel. Smiles.


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Re: Phone Number Report from 911 Call Number

Post by rowdyangel on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:03 pm

MJJ1982 wrote:I remember I saw a pic where the phonenumber was visible (they where trying to call it) does anyone know where that topic/pic is?? I can't find it right now...

Is it this one?

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/all-odd-things-f8/numbers-from-911-call-interesting-need-imput-please-t2423.htm?highlight=call
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