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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:41 am

and he made them after receiving Propofol? Now how does this happen?

And can't those cell phone calls be traced?

This is starting to open up and get even more bizarre!!!
http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2009/08/investigation-doctor-left-jack.php
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by IWSICS on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:45 am

well that blows the theory that he died in his sleep! affraid
some one is lying, biggie- style!
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:48 am

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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:49 am

perhaps Murray said this to "prove" the Propofol didn't kill him and MJ must have taken additional drugs in the morning and OD'd himself...
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:52 am

but I'm wondering how Murray knew he was making phone calls...did he have his ear to MJ's bedroom door? This is weird...
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by IWSICS on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:58 am

"When Murray returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing.
Murray performed CPR on Jackson, and another person called 911."

I am 15. I know you don't do CPR unless the patients heart has stopped.

"Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong"

LMAO, darling- you've done nothing RIGHT. Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by Dutch on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:01 am

I guess you're talking about these parts of the article:

"Michael Jackson’s personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation."

and

"The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that because there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to place calls on his cellphone, the sources said. It’s unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson’s bedroom."

I think it should be read different and then it makes more sense. I think the meaning is that Murray felt comfortable to leave the room in order to make some phone calls --> Murray making these calls, not MJ.

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Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:11 am

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah....ok...gotcha.
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:14 am

So MURRAY left to make phone calls then? It sounds like Murray gave the shit to MJ and then gave MJ some privacy so MJ could make calls
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by Smelly on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:17 am

All these stories are doing my head in AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by SeeingClues on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:22 am

if Murray made the calls...assuming MJ was asleep...technically he wouldn't of had to leave Michael to make the calls....
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by NikkiKat22 on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:42 am

"Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were
found in Jackson’s system along with a limited amount of propofol."

Whats this I thought the test results were not out yet? How would they know whats is in his system?
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by CharlieBarley on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:53 am

I thought there was no phone in Michaels room?

Matt Alford, a partner in the Houston law firm
representing Dr. Conrad Murray, said the physician was unfamiliar with
his surroundings and that delayed the call.
"He
didn't know where he was, didn't know the physical address," Alford
said in an interview with The Associated Press. "There was no land
line, no phone in Jackson's room that would have allowed him to call.
It was all happening so fast."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31638932

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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by dontmakeitfactual on Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:58 am

CharlieBarley wrote:I thought there was no phone in Michaels room?

Matt Alford, a partner in the Houston law firm
representing Dr. Conrad Murray, said the physician was unfamiliar with
his surroundings and that delayed the call.
"He
didn't know where he was, didn't know the physical address," Alford
said in an interview with The Associated Press. "There was no land
line, no phone in Jackson's room that would have allowed him to call.
It was all happening so fast."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31638932

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Exactly!
And by the way, one of the stories going around was that a cell phone was used to call 911...
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:12 am

dontmakeitfactual wrote:
CharlieBarley wrote:I thought there was no phone in Michaels room?

Matt Alford, a partner in the Houston law firm
representing Dr. Conrad Murray, said the physician was unfamiliar with
his surroundings and that delayed the call.
"He
didn't know where he was, didn't know the physical address," Alford
said in an interview with The Associated Press. "There was no land
line, no phone in Jackson's room that would have allowed him to call.
It was all happening so fast."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31638932

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Exactly!
And by the way, one of the stories going around was that a cell phone was used to call 911...

This is complete and utter bullshit. How could there be no phone in the room? And Dr Death not knowing the address? WTF?

People, they are going to throw as many piles of shit at us that they can...on purpose. to throw us off and confuse everyone. They must think that the public will get so sick of the contradictions that we will just give up and move on.

I can NOT believe this. I laugh!!!
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by jpresley on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:14 am

WTFever. Dude was obviously able to locate a phone and order his two hoochie mamas to clear out the storage facilities here in Houston. So, that begs the question: why was he able to do that but not call 911 for MJ?
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by kdkennedy74 on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:19 am

WAIT...Wasn't there staff at the house? I thought I read somewhere that he called out to the chef for help. Surely someone in that house knew the address so why the long delay before calling 911?
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by jpresley on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:21 am

kdkennedy74 wrote:WAIT...Wasn't there staff at the house? I thought I read somewhere that he called out to the chef for help. Surely someone in that house knew the address so why the long delay before calling 911?

Yah, and supposedly he yelled for Prince too. So, wouldn't a 12 year old know his own damn address or, I don't know, perhaps where a f*cking PHONE is??! Just sayin'.

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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:42 am

Okey, this Doc Murray is not realible in my opinion I mean. First he lost hes way to Michaels Mansion, then he didnt know how he got there, then he didnt know where he was, and last but not least, he didnt know the address... WTF? He really sound like someone who knows what he is doing. NOT!!!!!

Im starting to think that the "drug addict" Is The Doc, he certainly sound like one in this. Cause we all know, It is not Michael

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Post by Give.In.To.Me on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:44 am

Ha, Bravo Dr. Murray...thanks for keeping the hoax alive! cheers
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by MJGIRL18 on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:55 am

i think murray left michael alone so ''he'' could make a phone call.he as in murray.
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by phoenix on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:49 am

so i do not get it- did he gave Michael propofol in the morning(???? (not evening???), then left him alone to do his calls and then after coming back found him not breathing? because it kind of sounds like a complete different story... thank you Murray for telling so many fairytales...lol..


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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by annieisnotokey on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:09 pm

Dutch wrote:
I think it should be read different and then it makes more sense. I think the meaning is that Murray felt comfortable to leave the room in order to make some phone calls --> Murray making these calls, not MJ.

I agree.
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Re: Bizarre Breaking News: Murray says MJ made phone calls on 6/25

Post by Banessa on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:24 pm

jpresley wrote:WTFever. Dude was obviously able to locate a phone and order his two hoochie mamas to clear out the storage facilities here in Houston. So, that begs the question: why was he able to do that but not call 911 for MJ?

lmao! Jpresley the hoochie comment is too funny lol
Seriously one can only wonder, why the hell he didn't use that same phone to call 911! okay so he is new to the L.A. area but not to the U.S. IDIOT should have known that the police could have ben able to trace the call and direct the medics to the right address, right? or am I missing something? scratch IMO Murray is just as BAD of an actor as he is a HORRIBLE Doctor! lol
Hoax theory is on for me! Smile
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Post by annieisnotokey on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:27 pm

Here's an interesting article:
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-jackson-doctor14-2009aug14,0,3345788.story

I underlined the WTF parts:

Michael Jackson's personal physician left the performer alone and under the influence of a powerful anesthetic to make telephone calls the morning the pop singer died, according to three people familiar with the investigation.

By the time he returned, Jackson had stopped breathing, the sources said.

Dr. Conrad Murray, identified in court records as a suspect in a police manslaughter investigation, legally acquired the operating room drug, propofol, from a Las Vegas pharmacy and gave it to Jackson as treatment for insomnia, said the sources, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the investigation is ongoing.

In an interview with Los Angeles police detectives two days after Jackson's death, Murray acknowledged obtaining and administering the medication, the sources said. He reportedly told police that the singer had returned to his rented Holmby Hills mansion in the early hours of June 25 exhausted from a lengthy concert rehearsal but was unable to sleep.

Jackson had been using propofol as a sleep aid on and off for a decade, according to one law enforcement source. Murray told investigators that he had given Jackson doses of the drug repeatedly since taking a $150,000-a-month job as his doctor in May, the sources said.

The 51-year-old cardiologist told detectives that because there had never been a problem in the past, he felt comfortable leaving Jackson alone to place calls on his cellphone, the sources said. It's unclear how long Murray was out of Jackson's bedroom.

When Murray returned, the 50-year-old pop star was not breathing. Murray performed CPR on Jackson, and another person called 911. Paramedics arrived and rushed Jackson to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m.

Murray has maintained that he did nothing wrong. Shocked His attorney, Edward Chernoff, has repeatedly declined to say whether his client gave Jackson propofol. Asked Wednesday about the version of events outlined by the sources, the lawyer said: "I'm not going to dispute the police officers' claims in that regard. They were there at the interview, and Dr. Murray did not lie to them. But they are not telling the whole story." affraid

Chernoff confirmed that the doctor had spent time on the phone talking to family members and employees in his medical offices before he discovered Jackson stricken in a bedroom. Investigators pursuing the case have focused on whether Murray's use of propofol outside the hospital setting and his decision to leave Jackson alone rose to a level of negligence required for an involuntary manslaughter charge.

The Los Angeles County coroner's office has concluded its investigation into Jackson's death but, at the request of the LAPD, has not released its findings. Evidence gathered during the investigation suggests that the propofol admission alone might not be enough to charge Murray with manslaughter.

Other prescription drugs, including an anti-anxiety medication, were found in Jackson's system along with a limited amount of propofol. The law enforcement source said the presence of the other drugs without a massive amount of propofol could complicate any prosecution.

The other drugs may have amplified the effect of the anesthetic and depressed Jackson's breathing, sources said. Another factor is Jackson's history of drug addiction and his prior use of propofol in particular. In an interview Wednesday, Chernoff suggested that Murray did not realize what he was signing up for when he agreed to become Jackson's doctor.

"When he accepted the job, he was not aware of any specific requirements regarding medications that Michael Jackson was taking or any addictions that he was suffering from," Chernoff said.

But after relocating to Los Angeles, "he realized that Michael Jackson had some very unusual problems," the lawyer said. affraid

Chernoff criticized what he called selective leaks by investigators and said they had rushed to portray Murray as guilty and the anesthetic as the cause of death. "From the beginning, they leaked that propofol killed him. It has appeared the investigation was designed to support a conclusion they already made with regard to Dr. Murray," the lawyer said.

He said it was evident from their searches of Murray's properties in Las Vegas and Houston that investigators thought drugs other than propofol played a role in the death. Investigators were looking for evidence that the doctor prescribed Jackson the other medications, he said.

"I have no doubt they came up completely empty in that regard," he said.

Murray is one of at least five doctors whose conduct is being examined by the LAPD with the aid of the Drug Enforcement Administration in connection with Jackson. Although several have had records subpoenaed by the coroner's office, Murray is the only one to be publicly identified as a suspect.

Dmitry Gorin, a defense lawyer who was a deputy district attorney, said that to prove involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors would have to show that Murray's conduct was reckless to the point that no reasonable physician would consider such a course of treatment.

"They'd use medical experts to show that the lack of monitoring equipment, lack of staff and leaving the room was so beyond the pale of what a professional would do," Gorin said.
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:24 pm

Wow Bizarre, hes tripping himself up all the time with his lies, this is getting interesting by the day
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