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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by HoneyPie on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:31 am

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HoneyPie wrote:so you think Michael left his kids with a double?? omg, I can't believe it! do you know how he loved his kids?? that's totally insane! really, so weird that you have such thoughts...
did you see the kids faces? whose to say that was the real prince and paris?

i dont understand how somene can say that these are weird thoughts but post n a board where everyone thinks he faked his dealth...him faking his dealth is just as crazy as him using doubles of himself and those kids


ok, my opinion is different but that's good, we can discuss it.
so, what's the point? to show fake kids and a double in zoo if there may be just a few people who would "get that it's all fake"? and did you see that "double's" smile? if Michael has such twin double why couldn't let him to 02? 'cause the conference double was way worse..
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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by misha86 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:43 am

You are talking nonsense and lying.

Mike had 2 plastic surgeries on the nose, but other treatments at Klein's office.
treatment to his nose equals a nose job.please explain this to me?
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/shortfilms/sim/015.jpg him in 1996
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/invincible/shortfilm/yrmw/009.jpg him in 2001 with a very thin nose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UCZIkbwPY 2007 with the same exact nose from 1996 and same facial structure from the bashir interview at then, same lips and everything

your telling me, dr klien got his nose back to exactly where it was 11years before? also klien said that he JUST started to work on his nose before his shows not in 2007?

the pictures dont lie..

His face looks bigger cuz of angle, lightning, botox, and maybe medication. And yes its the shirt that makes him look like hes got a belly, but he does not have that. Look at his arms and see he is skinny. Like Mike would ever allow himself to have a belly haha. He's not a beer drinker.

again im not talking about his stomach..and lol @ you thinking he would do drugs and not possibly drink a beef when its well know he did drink modestly

Michael slept in the same bed with many children and he admitted it. Sleeping on floor or in bed - he was honest and not hiding or editing the thing.

Martin was being very sarcastic when making the documentary "his odd behaviour" "I cant believe this is the king of pop" when feeding Blanket "MJ thought he'd show me how much he loves his children" - "his obsession with children" and more.

Like I said, look at the man and hear him speak. This is what most people who believe in doubles don't seem to get - human psychology. Like, would these people not recognize their own mother if she had botox? Haha .

I advise you to take a picture of yourself right now in daylight, then take one in 8 months in darkness.


Michael would be freaked out to have a double (S).

again you speaking like you know him..how would he freak out? this is the same person who hand manaquins everywhere

He would not allow himself to lose control of his life -

you just said he was on drugs? isnt that not being in control over his life?

like in Berlin with the baby incident. And also bcuz he loves his kids and knows that the kids would be destroyed, more than he was, if they felt there was 3 of dad lol.

the kids were not there on every scene? so who said they seen them all..the kids where in berlin and germany

And havingg doubles would mean his life would be more complicated than it already is. Where would he be when sending out the double? Hiding in the basement?

having doubles for an interview means less time to spend with this man who was only going to exploit him...having doubles make apprances could mean less travel and more time with his kids...i dont see how any anyway his life would be more complicated than he already was ...

You still have not made any good points as to why MJ would use doubles. To say he wanted to be charged with molestation again is not a valid explanation.

did you not read anything i posted...i never said he used doubles to be charged again..and you call me ignorant? and we have been back and forth for how many pages??? i refuse to repeat my therory on why he would use doubles during this interview so i would advice you to go back and actually READ my post...i have stated varies times why i think he would use doubles but your so stuck on the lighting and botex you must not have seen it...just like you can see that those are different men...open you eyes and stop reaching with these botox, nose job, he was "on" shit
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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by HoneyPie on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:48 am

so maybe there were only doubles? everywhere?? and Michael living his life without going out at all?..it's like a doubles obsession...
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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by misha86 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:54 am

HoneyPie wrote:
misha86 wrote:
HoneyPie wrote:so you think Michael left his kids with a double?? omg, I can't believe it! do you know how he loved his kids?? that's totally insane! really, so weird that you have such thoughts...
did you see the kids faces? whose to say that was the real prince and paris?

i dont understand how somene can say that these are weird thoughts but post n a board where everyone thinks he faked his dealth...him faking his dealth is just as crazy as him using doubles of himself and those kids


ok, my opinion is different but that's good, we can discuss it.
so, what's the point? to show fake kids and a double in zoo if there may be just a few people who would "get that it's all fake"? and did you see that "double's" smile? if Michael has such twin double why couldn't let him to 02? 'cause the conference double was way worse..

i have no problem discussing difference this is a forum of course

the reason i feel like there are doubles of the kids lies in this interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtgqiJnXRKg

barbara is asking him why he would sell the pictures to the magazines of his son and he says "thats what they, the media, wanted" and then he talks about how he wants there life private ect. and she says where wats your plan for that? and he says "idk you tell me" with this smirk...

IMO he did keep them private, he gave the media want they wanted three kids and some pictures...but thats not what he wanted. he wanted them to be nowhere near the limelight or live like that..so to me his plan was bigger than some mask and sheets

the main thing i have learned about micheal since july is to read between the lines....look at the bigger picture..he is a complex man and he wants us to know his plans ect but he also wants us to think

and idk if we were suppose to get it back in 2003, i know i didnt, but again when i went back to look at his interviews, in doubt of his death, with my eyes and ears more open i learned and seen way more than before

lol@ 02 guy....im hes mike with a prostetic face, have you seen close ups? and acting different to throw everyone off to get us ready for the hoax
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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by misha86 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:58 am

HoneyPie wrote:so maybe there were only doubles? everywhere?? and Michael living his life without going out at all?..it's like a doubles obsession...

lol...i thought about that 2...i mean his face changing that much is just crazy to me....but i do see 2 men all the time and then of course there are times when im like WTF like in the you rock my world video...lol and some random pictures of like navi and others

but i have thought when he had kids he wanted to be around more, plus after the allegations..imo he makes perfect sense, fool the media,spend time with kids and make less appreances that you have to..
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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by BlackOrchid on Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:16 pm

misha86 wrote:You are talking nonsense and lying.

Mike had 2 plastic surgeries on the nose, but other treatments at Klein's office.
treatment to his nose equals a nose job.please explain this to me?
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/shortfilms/sim/015.jpg him in 1996
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/invincible/shortfilm/yrmw/009.jpg him in 2001 with a very thin nose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UCZIkbwPY 2007 with the same exact nose from 1996 and same facial structure from the bashir interview at then, same lips and everything

your telling me, dr klien got his nose back to exactly where it was 11years before? also klien said that he JUST started to work on his nose before his shows not in 2007?

the pictures dont lie..

His face looks bigger cuz of angle, lightning, botox, and maybe medication. And yes its the shirt that makes him look like hes got a belly, but he does not have that. Look at his arms and see he is skinny. Like Mike would ever allow himself to have a belly haha. He's not a beer drinker.

again im not talking about his stomach..and lol @ you thinking he would do drugs and not possibly drink a beef when its well know he did drink modestly

Michael slept in the same bed with many children and he admitted it. Sleeping on floor or in bed - he was honest and not hiding or editing the thing.

Martin was being very sarcastic when making the documentary "his odd behaviour" "I cant believe this is the king of pop" when feeding Blanket "MJ thought he'd show me how much he loves his children" - "his obsession with children" and more.

Like I said, look at the man and hear him speak. This is what most people who believe in doubles don't seem to get - human psychology. Like, would these people not recognize their own mother if she had botox? Haha .

I advise you to take a picture of yourself right now in daylight, then take one in 8 months in darkness.


Michael would be freaked out to have a double (S).

again you speaking like you know him..how would he freak out? this is the same person who hand manaquins everywhere

He would not allow himself to lose control of his life -

you just said he was on drugs? isnt that not being in control over his life?

like in Berlin with the baby incident. And also bcuz he loves his kids and knows that the kids would be destroyed, more than he was, if they felt there was 3 of dad lol.

the kids were not there on every scene? so who said they seen them all..the kids where in berlin and germany

And havingg doubles would mean his life would be more complicated than it already is. Where would he be when sending out the double? Hiding in the basement?

having doubles for an interview means less time to spend with this man who was only going to exploit him...having doubles make apprances could mean less travel and more time with his kids...i dont see how any anyway his life would be more complicated than he already was ...

You still have not made any good points as to why MJ would use doubles. To say he wanted to be charged with molestation again is not a valid explanation.

did you not read anything i posted...i never said he used doubles to be charged again..and you call me ignorant? and we have been back and forth for how many pages??? i refuse to repeat my therory on why he would use doubles during this interview so i would advice you to go back and actually READ my post...i have stated varies times why i think he would use doubles but your so stuck on the lighting and botex you must not have seen it...just like you can see that those are different men...open you eyes and stop reaching with these botox, nose job, he was "on" shit

Skin treatment is not the same as plastic surgery. They dont break the nose.

Klein lies about many things to protect Mike. I advise you to take whatever he had said lately with a grain of salt.

Drugs as a pain reducer has nothing to do with losing control over your life. Please explain how this can make you lose control.

And again, Mike would not allow his belly to grow big. I dont think so. Wine and beer are two different things lol. *I* am the one talking about his stomach since some people has talked about this before also.

How would someone freak out by living a triple life? It's first of all against everything Mike stands for. Mannequins and living humans are not the same. Lol.

The kids were also in Las Vegas. And yes, they would know if their daddy was a fake. It would traumatize them.

Your explanation for why Mike used doubles to spend less time with Bashir is not valid - why? Michael did not know he would make the documentary into what it became. Martin was very polite in the interviews. He arrived with a backpack in Berlin and asked normal questions when Mike feeded Blanket. And he asked how MJ felt about the tabloids going nuts over the baby incident. That is no reason to have a human being as a double, lol. Neither the Las Vegas or Florida interview is.

I did read what you said before and you said MJ wanted to be accused of it again so that he could clear his name and fool the media.

But the issue here is that his cheeks looks bigger. Like I said, medication and botox does that to the face.

And no, Michael would never allow a double, or other person speak for his image and everything he built.
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Re: Three (3) MJs in the Bashit Documentary?

Post by misha86 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:23 pm

skin treatment is not the same as plastic surgery
BlackOrchid wrote:

Mike had 2 plastic surgeries on the nose, but other treatments at Klein's office.


if you were not talkn about nose "treatment" why include this in what we are speaking about?..we are talking about his nose..no one said ANYTHING about his skin...


Klein lies about many things to protect Mike. I advise you to take whatever he had said lately with a grain of salt.

Oh i dont! but since you spoke on him i assumed you were talking about what he said about his nose on LKL since that was the topic, not his skin

Drugs as a pain reducer has nothing to do with losing control over your life. Please explain how this can make you lose control.

i have horrible cramps and take vicodin and never has my whole face changed because of it...lol...again your reaching

And again, Mike would not allow his belly to grow big. I dont think so. Wine and beer are two different things lol. *I* am the one talking about his stomach since some people has talked about this before also.

why dont we stay on the topic of what *WE* are discussing..and again you are speaking like you know him..but since we are on the topic of his "belly":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFrH471PrM&feature=related go to about 1min when he is sitting on the floor...he looks bigger than the in the red shirt or him in black...i guess blue isnt his color either..lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lrdjt0p780 or what about here? he doesnt look so skinny here either but maybe thats cause its dark? lmao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hYCObbERME again he is not as thin as the others in the interview...maybe its the short hair that makes him look thicker or its the blue again oh wait...its because he is outside..

and you know whats funny..is that this is him inside and outside and still looks exactly like him in the burgandy top...and nothing like the other people in the interview


How would someone freak out by living a triple life? It's first of all against everything Mike stands for. Mannequins and living humans are not the same. Lol.

he would not live a triple life...lmao he is always going to be michael jackson..he just send others to do it for him sometimes when he doesnt want to

The kids were also in Las Vegas. And yes, they would know if their daddy was a fake. It would traumatize them.

Your explanation for why Mike used doubles to spend less time with Bashir is not valid - why? Michael did not know he would make the documentary into what it became. Martin was very polite in the interviews
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all journalist are polite..its doesnt take away from them wanting to tell a story , if all journalist were rude and up front about there intentions they wouldnt get jobs..and im sure mike knew that...thats how they get people to fall for it...

He arrived with a backpack in Berlin and asked normal questions when Mike feeded Blanket. And he asked how MJ felt about the tabloids going nuts over the baby incident. That is no reason to have a human being as a double, lol.

if your a regular person no..if you mj and you want to prove something yes...the media doesnt even know what he looks like..they dont even know his name for christ sakes...hes proving his point right now in this hoax and what do you mean a human? wat else was he going to use? a robot? and alien...lol


I did read what you said before and you said MJ wanted to be accused of it again so that he could clear his name and fool the media.

BUT I DIDNT SAY THATS WHY HE USED DOUBLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! those are 2 different topics but clearing from this post you cant stay on the corrent one, hint your still talking about his belly and skin treatment

But the issue here is that his cheeks looks bigger. Like I said, medication and botox does that to the face.

so he was always on pain medication? for years? that sounds like a drug problem and let me guess he did botox on and off since at least 1996? but didnt keep steady with it?

And no, Michael would never allow a double, or other person speak for his image and everything he built.

yea,everything he built that the media has tried to tear down, including with this interview...so why not play them at there own game so that he can rebuild his image to where it should have always been and show people that the media lies and will do anything for a story

p.s. i like how you ignored the photos i posted..guess you dont have a valid explantion to how that happened
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