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Post by juliet on Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:39 pm

I just want to share what I read about MICHAEL could never go broke.

MICHAEL has half-ownership stake with ATV/Sony music catalog which brings $75 million/year to MJ Estate with an estimated value as high as $1 billion for Michael's shows.

In addition to ownership of his own masters and publishing rights to MiJac catalog with an estimated value of $300 million and with a quarter-share ownership in Neverland Ranch.

Michael's half-ownership in ATV/Sony which owns the Beatles catalog with an estimated worth of $2 billion is held in trust that shields it from creditors.

ATV/Sony catalog includes all rights to most of the Beatles songs along with various artists which is appraised to $2 billion, and MiJac catalog value has gone up to $2 billion since June 25.

And with all those numbers, Michael is very secure and also his children.
And with all those numbers, so many people are coming out with claims of all sorts.
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Post by deedee75 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:19 pm

yeah I think Dick Gregory said something like MJ was getting like 800 million a year off his different investments
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Post by Souza81 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:20 pm

I never bought the dept stories...

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Post by misha86 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm

thats was all rumors to add the the theory of why he would want to die/ fake his death...

i cant see him spending out of control...all that stuff in the bashit interview seemed fake to me too

idk he seems really good with financial things
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Post by Vera_Belle on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:36 pm

Guys, I have been thinking if Michael had more than half of Sony. He doesn't have to go public with it. If this is so, he may have staged a nice show, using Sony for the movie and to get the project through. It may be more than a movie. The whole project may just to teach people not to judge others, but to love them.
Since things have been quiet lately and before that there was a storm to remind us that Michael is dead (claims from people, cost of funeral), so it may be the calm before another storm.
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Post by juliet on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Souza81 wrote:I never bought the dept stories...

I veraciously agree. People have debts but I don't think Michael will just splurge so much money as different people have said, drowning him into so much debts. I don't think so, too.

These people who have given feeds about his debts are just so jealous that they want a piece of what he has worked on. I think they do really underestimate him.
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Post by juliet on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:54 pm

And in addition, the moneypulators who set up O2 with the plans of 50 shows had also plans for 3 year world tour, +show dates in Las Vegas and Macau, + $1billion Thriller Casino. I think these are the principles of Colony Capital.

The moneypulators were trying to kill Michael with all their schemes IMO, because if he's dead, they will profit more from him. But with O2 not coming out as planned, Michael was much smarter than they are and they have to search every corner of the earth for him. And that's a very big disappoinment for them.
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Post by Souza81 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:56 pm

juliet wrote:
Souza81 wrote:I never bought the dept stories...

I veraciously agree. People have debts but I don't think Michael will just splurge so much money as different people have said, drowning him into so much debts. I don't think so, too.

These people who have given feeds about his debts are just so jealous that they want a piece of what he has worked on. I think they do really underestimate him.


I think the majority of people underestimate him, even the ones that think they don't, if you understand what I am trying to say...

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Post by mjssoulmate on Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:59 pm

Never believed the debt claims either.

this could be a social experiment in the form of an ARG
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Post by Ibelieve8 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:00 pm

In another thread about the artist that Michael worked with (the name has escaped me) he had said before the children he went to go meet with Michael at his place and he drove a blazer and lived very simply. He even said his furniture wouldn't get $50 at a garage sale. I have never bought that he would go into debt, he wanted his children to be set for life. I do believe that people are just out there to get his money. There are many greedy people who would take advantage of such an innocent man. I can think of a few just off the top of my head.
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Post by misha86 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:07 pm

Ibelieve8 wrote:In another thread about the artist that Michael worked with (the name has escaped me) he had said before the children he went to go meet with Michael at his place and he drove a blazer and lived very simply. He even said his furniture wouldn't get $50 at a garage sale. I have never bought that he would go into debt, he wanted his children to be set for life. I do believe that people are just out there to get his money. There are many greedy people who would take advantage of such an innocent man. I can think of a few just off the top of my head.

i agree plus look at his clothes..besides the fancy jackets he dressed like a regular dude never really over the top...thats the one thing i knew he wasnt and thats in debt or broke...this is the same guy who mad sure he owns his songs plus the beetles and othe artist...way to smart for that...smarter than anyone could have ever dreamed
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Post by juliet on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:08 pm

And that comes to the OLD FOOL BACK ON EARTH, but this time he's much wiser and much more determined with his goals, and I can hear him saying, "Nobody can stop me now"
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:29 pm

juliet wrote:And that comes to the OLD FOOL BACK ON EARTH, but this time he's much wiser and much more determined with his goals, and I can hear him saying, "Nobody can stop me now"

I swear I can hear him say that too ! ..... He is a Complete Genius ... No Doubt about that ....
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Post by juliet on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:33 pm

EARTHANGEL, is that your work on your sig?
It's so great!!!
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:42 pm

juliet wrote:EARTHANGEL, is that your work on your sig?
It's so great!!!

No , Not My Work (I wish thought !) - a Artist off of DeviantArt Did it ! .... Type in "Michael Jackson" On DeviantArt.com ... So Many to Choose From!
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Post by juliet on Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:27 am

Your sig of Michael as an angel is soooooo beautiful
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:35 am

I may be the odd person out, but I disagree. It is widely reported he was $500 million in debt. I think MJ was used and manipulated by unscrupulous people because he was much too trusting. Listen to the tape of him speaking to his spiritual advisor, telling her that Tohme had control of everything. He said he didn't even know what his assets were. Tohme had $5 million of MJ's cash sitting around. How much more did he steal? He was thisclose to losing Neverland because of his debt. He was about to auction off all of his prized possessions in April. When he was living in Vegas, his house was in a dodgy older area of town...definitely not up to his usual standards. And why would he sign on to do a huge tour at his age since he hated it so much? And don't kid yourself, he loved to shop! Laughing He had very opulent tastes, ie. expensive. He deserved to spoil himself...he's worked like a dog since he was 5 years old. He also gave insane amounts to charity. And he supported his entire family. That's got to add up.

You can see his finances were a mess just from all the people coming forward to claim a piece of the estate. Yes, I'm sure some are bogus, but many are probably not. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Michael is to blame for it. I think he just trusted the people he hired to do their jobs, like paying his bills, and they embezzled from him. He probably didn't have a clue until it was too late. Thank goodness for his Beatles catalogue. I'm so glad some slimy person didn't sell that under his nose. Honestly, I think his signature was forged on a lot of documents over the years. There were many dishonest people in his life. I'm still not even sure about Branca...I hope he's got the children's best interest at heart now that he is a permanent executor.

I honestly think he was backed into a corner and had no way out. He knew he didn't want to (couldn't?) go through with the concerts and world tour afterwards, but would lose everything he ever worked for, and his children's legacy, if he pulled out. Many rich and powerful people would not let that happen, so I do think he was in danger for that reason...they knew he was a flight risk. What better way to make everything go away but to hoax your death?
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Post by Ibelieve8 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:00 pm

ILuvUMoreMJ-- I agree a lot with your belief too.. I feel so bad for Michael and all the people he had taking advantage of him(even his own family) He really did need someone to watch out for him that he could trust.. They just wanted his money. Oh and I do believe that his signature was forged on a few documents too.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:07 pm

Souza81 wrote:I never bought the dept stories...

I NEVER DID EITHER-LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE: hmmmm...."let us see I am broke and heavily in debt so let me go country skipping and live in a few castles"
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:34 pm

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I may be the odd person out, but I disagree. It is widely reported he was $500 million in debt. I think MJ was used and manipulated by unscrupulous people because he was much too trusting. Listen to the tape of him speaking to his spiritual advisor, telling her that Tohme had control of everything. He said he didn't even know what his assets were. Tohme had $5 million of MJ's cash sitting around. How much more did he steal? He was thisclose to losing Neverland because of his debt. He was about to auction off all of his prized possessions in April. When he was living in Vegas, his house was in a dodgy older area of town...definitely not up to his usual standards. And why would he sign on to do a huge tour at his age since he hated it so much? And don't kid yourself, he loved to shop! Laughing He had very opulent tastes, ie. expensive. He deserved to spoil himself...he's worked like a dog since he was 5 years old. He also gave insane amounts to charity. And he supported his entire family. That's got to add up.

You can see his finances were a mess just from all the people coming forward to claim a piece of the estate. Yes, I'm sure some are bogus, but many are probably not. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Michael is to blame for it. I think he just trusted the people he hired to do their jobs, like paying his bills, and they embezzled from him. He probably didn't have a clue until it was too late. Thank goodness for his Beatles catalogue. I'm so glad some slimy person didn't sell that under his nose. Honestly, I think his signature was forged on a lot of documents over the years. There were many dishonest people in his life. I'm still not even sure about Branca...I hope he's got the children's best interest at heart now that he is a permanent executor.

I honestly think he was backed into a corner and had no way out. He knew he didn't want to (couldn't?) go through with the concerts and world tour afterwards, but would lose everything he ever worked for, and his children's legacy, if he pulled out. Many rich and powerful people would not let that happen, so I do think he was in danger for that reason...they knew he was a flight risk. What better way to make everything go away but to hoax your death?
No, you are not the odd person out-I agree with you. I have always thought that apart from MJ feeling thoroughly disillusioned after the trial in 05 and various people who took advantage, swindled him and tried to manipulate him that it is quite possible he did it for money as well as other reasons. Think about it? He has been swindled and has had to pay huge amounts to Arviso, Debbie Rowe and not forgetting the cost of the court case and his very generous amounts he gave to charities and we do know he loved to spend. His Beatles catalogue was inheritance for his children so we can disregard that. It is quite possible he was in debt. There have been many questions and theories as to why he did the hoax and no one said for the money-every other hoax in the world ever has been for money. I did not mention it before for fear of being slammed but please just do not disregard this and think and consider the possibility. Elvis made huge amounts after his death, far more than he ever made in his lifetime and Michael was well aware of that. Not one of us actually know of MJs finances at all but please consider this- he was a broken man after the trial, so broken he couldn't return to his beloved Neverland and in fact he said in the Rabbi tapes that he wanted to escape the USA and not return. How could he do a hoax with not much money? he never lived like you or I, he was not used to living on a couple of hundred quid a week., he has never lived a normal life. How better to escape the rat race that you learned to hate than to hoax your own death, sales of your CDs, DVDs,in fact everything for sale will rocket and you will be able to live in comfort for the rest of your life. If he was in fact getting financially embarrassed then he would not have been able to just retire and opt out. Also don't forget the sales of his new movie. I think he had it all planned and before anyone slams me I do not think he was selfish at all, he owes the world nothing-he has given enough., 45 years in fact. A lot of people I know think he is still alive and they say it was for money. I think it wasn't all money but that was a big part of it. If the world had not being cruel to him he would not have done this. Read about how many fans were there in the court to support him in the last days, not many at all, there were lots of empty seats-he felt abandoned. At the beginning of the trial many turned out for him but it didn't last. I do not blame him at all for the hoax and may he now be living in peace giving the rude finger sign to the ignorant in the world who hurt him!
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Post by Gema on Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:54 pm

Interesting post you wrote Harleyblonde. I agree with many points.

I would also add that one of the problems there was all the economical leaches MJ had around him.

I feel very sad for him. Working for others since he was 5 and still his own blood seem to want to suck every penny left.

Still I find odd that he would hoax his death knowing how much he ment for sooo many people, not only his fans, but all the people who got helped with his charity donations, all the orphan kids that grew up thanks to him and a long etc who would miss him and drown in tears.

I always said I am 50% here and my logic is fighting to do not care at all, but I just can´t. I want to know what´s going on.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:08 pm

Gema wrote:Interesting post you wrote Harleyblonde. I agree with many points.

I would also add that one of the problems there was all the economical leaches MJ had around him.

I feel very sad for him. Working for others since he was 5 and still his own blood seem to want to suck every penny left.

Still I find odd that he would hoax his death knowing how much he ment for sooo many people, not only his fans, but all the people who got helped with his charity donations, all the orphan kids that grew up thanks to him and a long etc who would miss him and drown in tears.

I always said I am 50% here and my logic is fighting to do not care at all, but I just can´t. I want to know what´s going on.
Thanks for that. A few points though, just because he has hoaxed his death does not mean to say he cannot still help the charities, maybe if he was getting broke is possible the fact that he was not able to help as he used to may have disturbed him. He did give his Mother a large allowance every month which is admirable but to most he was just a money making machine. I think he found out in the last few years who his real friends were and I bet you could count them on your hands. Also he will die one day so his young fans will have gone through it sooner rather than later, and am not being cruel but is not as if he deceived family, any loss is not like a loss of your your own family. Sometimes you have to do whats best and think of yourself and your children, plus he was really disillusioned with the world.
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Post by Gema on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:21 pm

He would die one day, I am ok with that. Is life.
I wrote a post some days ago about it. I would have accepted his death better if he would have fallen down the stairs, sad and bad luck...new chapter and that´s it, but we are being told that he was murdered!! is an added pain.

You mention his real friends.Would his friends know bout the hoax if any?
Karen F was one close friend for many years. She seems to be upset about the hoax, calling hoax believers crazy.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:46 pm

Gema wrote:He would die one day, I am ok with that. Is life.
I wrote a post some days ago about it. I would have accepted his death better if he would have fallen down the stairs, sad and bad luck...new chapter and that´s it, but we are being told that he was murdered!! is an added pain.

You mention his real friends.Would his friends know bout the hoax if any?
Karen F was one close friend for many years. She seems to be upset about the hoax, calling hoax believers crazy.
I think maybe just a few close friends know of the hoax, probably less than we think. I do think Elizabeth Taylor will be in on it, as for Karen Faye-I honestly do not think she was very close to him, I think is just the impression she likes to put across, they probably got on reasonably well and they go back a while but I have not seen interviews with him speaking fondly of her like Elizabeth and no photo's- there are heaps with him and Elizabeth, Diana Ross etc. I could be wrong but I do not think Karen was very close to Michael but at the end of the day how many friends will he have to trust 100% with something like a hoax? He trusted people in the past and he was ripped off and deceived. Money talks and if the price is right is human nature to betray someone. I think very few will be in on it.
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Post by juliet on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:54 pm

Hey guys, why would your ideas be slammed, you have great points to support your ideas and it's worth reading. The financial aspect of Michael is a very important part to discuss and the perspective of how much people use and abuse him which I believe is the main trajectory of all his problems/charities/future plans.

Regarding Neverland, this is what I read. Colony Capital bought MJ's loans from Fortress and set up a joint venture partnership with MJ to CO-OWN Neverland Ranch. Michael sold quarterly share to Colony for $35 million and on 2004 the estimated value has gone up to $120 million.
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Post by Gema on Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:58 pm

After you mention it, yes, makes sense. Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross. They are quiet. Real friends would stay quiet and wait for the right time, respecting his privacy.
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:08 pm

@juliet, thanks for that, very interesting and am going to think more about what you have told us and @Gema, I think you have hit the nail on the head. If karen was a real friend she would keep a dignified silence. I Think it would embarress Michael for people to discuss him like this. I think she liked the fact of Michaels fame more than the fact that he was a nice sensitive soul and she is lapping up her few months of fame. Wouldn't surprise me if feeble minded people like her in the future will write books about MJ and will be of course full of BS.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:48 am

Harleyblonde wrote:
I think maybe just a few close friends know of the hoax, probably less than we think. I do think Elizabeth Taylor will be in on it, as for Karen Faye-I honestly do not think she was very close to him, I think is just the impression she likes to put across, they probably got on reasonably well and they go back a while but I have not seen interviews with him speaking fondly of her like Elizabeth and no photo's- there are heaps with him and Elizabeth, Diana Ross etc. I could be wrong but I do not think Karen was very close to Michael but at the end of the day how many friends will he have to trust 100% with something like a hoax? He trusted people in the past and he was ripped off and deceived. Money talks and if the price is right is human nature to betray someone. I think very few will be in on it.

I completely agree with everything you said here.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:59 am

I just found something on the MJ timeline...does anyone know anything more about this?

http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&max-results=43

August 7, 2006 :
In what could be one of the biggest conspiracies in entertainment history, documents have been sent to Michael Jackson, and his representatives, which reveal a deliberate plan by some former attorneys as well as associates and advisors, to force Mr. Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy.The documents reveal that former attorneys actively solicited other attorneys, vendors and creditors to “join in a petition to place the client in involuntary bankruptcy.”Mr. Jackson who, on June 27, 2006, announced sweeping organizational changes, has instructed his legal team to investigate and file claims against those responsible for conspiracy, bad faith, and self dealing. These efforts may also result in civil and/or criminal charges, where appropriate.In addition, there is a strong possibility that these documents will be forwarded to the U.S. Attorney General for review and possible involvement.“Mr. Jackson is neither shocked or surprised by these revelations,” says Raymone K. Bain, Michael Jackson’s General Manager. “Based on the timing of events that have impacted his personal and professional life in recent years,he has long been suspicious that some of those whom he entrusted to act on his behalf, and to advise him with respect to his personal and business affairs, may not have always acted in his best interests.”


I don't remember hearing anything on the news about this. confused
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Post by Harleyblonde on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:09 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I just found something on the MJ timeline...does anyone know anything more about this?

http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&max-results=43

August 7, 2006 :
In what could be one of the biggest conspiracies in entertainment history, documents have been sent to Michael Jackson, and his representatives, which reveal a deliberate plan by some former attorneys as well as associates and advisors, to force Mr. Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy.The documents reveal that former attorneys actively solicited other attorneys, vendors and creditors to “join in a petition to place the client in involuntary bankruptcy.”Mr. Jackson who, on June 27, 2006, announced sweeping organizational changes, has instructed his legal team to investigate and file claims against those responsible for conspiracy, bad faith, and self dealing. These efforts may also result in civil and/or criminal charges, where appropriate.In addition, there is a strong possibility that these documents will be forwarded to the U.S. Attorney General for review and possible involvement.“Mr. Jackson is neither shocked or surprised by these revelations,” says Raymone K. Bain, Michael Jackson’s General Manager. “Based on the timing of events that have impacted his personal and professional life in recent years,he has long been suspicious that some of those whom he entrusted to act on his behalf, and to advise him with respect to his personal and business affairs, may not have always acted in his best interests.”


I don't remember hearing anything on the news about this. confused
That is very interesting but doesn't surprise me at all. There are always the unscrupulous who are devious and jealous enough to benefit and instigate the downfall of the rich and successful. Michael being the sweet natured and sensitive guy he was will have been an easy target for those whose intentions were only for the greedy interests of themselves. I think financially as well as being thoroughly mentally disillusioned Michael would have felt there was no alternative than to "die" and then live in peace.
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Post by juliet on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:04 am

ILuvUMoreMJ wrote:I just found something on the MJ timeline...does anyone know anything more about this?

http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B01%3A00&max-results=43

August 7, 2006 :
In what could be one of the biggest conspiracies in entertainment history, documents have been sent to Michael Jackson, and his representatives, which reveal a deliberate plan by some former attorneys as well as associates and advisors, to force Mr. Jackson into involuntary bankruptcy.The documents reveal that former attorneys actively solicited other attorneys, vendors and creditors to “join in a petition to place the client in involuntary bankruptcy.”Mr. Jackson who, on June 27, 2006, announced sweeping organizational changes, has instructed his legal team to investigate and file claims against those responsible for conspiracy, bad faith, and self dealing. These efforts may also result in civil and/or criminal charges, where appropriate.In addition, there is a strong possibility that these documents will be forwarded to the U.S. Attorney General for review and possible involvement.“Mr. Jackson is neither shocked or surprised by these revelations,” says Raymone K. Bain, Michael Jackson’s General Manager. “Based on the timing of events that have impacted his personal and professional life in recent years,he has long been suspicious that some of those whom he entrusted to act on his behalf, and to advise him with respect to his personal and business affairs, may not have always acted in his best interests.”


I don't remember hearing anything on the news about this.

Thanks for the info link. I don't remember reading it, too. But of course the media must have done somthing to conceal the info.
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Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:11 am

Poor sweet MJ. No
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Post by neverlandprincess on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:43 pm

Craziness-I know I read an interview with Bain after June 25th and she said he was never in the kind of debt that was reported.
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:48 pm

Tohme Tohme supposedly gave 5 million back to the estate that Michael had been giving him to purchase the Las Vegas home so if he gave that much back there is no telling how much MJ actually gave him. Also, didn't LaToya say that the cash and jewelry were missing from his house after he "died"? I also remember Grace stating that Katherine had called her the day that MJ "died" and asked her where he hid the cash.

These 3 things alone tell me that there was no way possible that MJ was broke. You can have poor credit and owe people but still be incredibly wealthy.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:50 pm

@kkennedy -
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Post by infinitylady on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:51 pm

Ok, I saw the link. Here is something odd to me:



  • April 3 :

Michael hosts a party for Paris's 11th birthday at the Bel Air home. Grace attends the party and soon after she is "terminated" by Dr Tohme.

Ok, could Dr. Tohme terminate her? If she is MJs Nanny, wouldn't that MJs job to do that?

Here's another:

[quote][

  • May 5 :

Raymone Bain, Michael's former manager and spokersperson, files a lawsuit in Washington D.C claiming breach of contract; quantum meruit and unjust enrichment and she asks for 44 millions $.Dr. Tohme Tohme is officially terminated as Michael's manager and disbarred from having any subsequent affiliation with him or any of his numerous established entities (including MJJ Productions and the newer MJJ Kingdom).Michael hires Frank Dileo as his new manager.
/quote]

Ok, so now Dr. Tohme is terminated.



Sorry, I am off the subject. I personally thought that was odd.
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Post by infinitylady on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:51 pm

I don't believe MJ was that broke from the beginning. Just a way to make him look bad in the media.
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Post by neverlandprincess on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:58 pm

infinitylady wrote:I don't believe MJ was that broke from the beginning. Just a way to make him look bad in the media.

Exactly.

And yeah I think Thome was firing ppl he didnt have business firing.
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Post by francisca81 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:47 pm

nope!
never believed that he was in debt...
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:11 pm

this is sad he was surrounded by money grabbing leeches
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Post by infinitylady on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:13 pm

pretty much!
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Re: MJ COULD NEVER GO BROKE

Post by juliet on Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:24 am

[quote="infinitylady"]Ok, I saw the link. Here is something odd to me:



  • April 3 :

Michael hosts a party for Paris's 11th birthday at the Bel Air home. Grace attends the party and soon after she is "terminated" by Dr Tohme.

Ok, could Dr. Tohme terminate her? If she is MJs Nanny, wouldn't that MJs job to do that?

Here's another:

[

  • May 5 :


Raymone Bain, Michael's former manager and spokersperson, files a lawsuit in Washington D.C claiming breach of contract; quantum meruit and unjust enrichment and she asks for 44 millions $.Dr. Tohme Tohme is officially terminated as Michael's manager and disbarred from having any subsequent affiliation with him or any of his numerous established entities (including MJJ Productions and the newer MJJ Kingdom).Michael hires Frank Dileo as his new manager.
/quote]

Ok, so now Dr. Tohme is terminated.



Sorry, I am off the subject. I personally thought that was odd.

Just the same, thanks for the info, INFINITYLADY
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