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Post by Shine on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:15 am

Hey everyone, it´s my very firs post and topic but I finnaly did it...

I read MJHD from almost the beginning and I have to say good work, people invested so much thoughts....
But the main reason I didn´t participated is that I never thought that this is about a game, or DEA, or whatever else. My only little left hope results from this article by Firpo Carr. He is a longtime family friend, former spokesperson (during the trial, but Meserau stopped at one point all statements, to get the focus on the defense and to determine the circus atmosphere) and never left a bad word about MJ.

I really think if there is any hope left then it´s bigger then we can swollow...

Scroll down to the second article.

http://firpocarr.com/id5.html
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:22 am

Wow... and WTF? LOL
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:22 am

And welcome Shine!! Nice to meet you!!
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Post by Shine on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:36 am

Thanks for your welcomes, I don´t know if I´m at the right place here but all of you seem to care very much. Although I want to be honest that I disagree with most said.
I just wanted to share my concerns and fear here with you because I see some people literally loosing their minds and unfortunely cross the border of morals to often, but I guess that happens too easily when you get dragged in this mess!

Don´t feel offended I just speak my mind Smile
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Post by city.gal1 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:36 am

I have seen this man interviewed on TV several times since MJ's "death", this is the first time I have seen him referred to as "dr". What kind of doctor is he? Same as Dr. Thome? He is a former Jackson family spokesman. Wasn't Branca rehired shortly before MJ's "death" - I thought that was what had been reported. John Branca supposed has an excellent reputation in the music industry and he had served MJ well in his early solo days. If MJ really had insisted on certain documents to be returned and they hadn't been then why didn't MJ sue Branca or report him to the Legal board? If Carr has info with regard to the "death" has he reported to the authorities or just holding to himself?

I don't know, these are just of the first questions that come to mind. I am saying that it isn't true? No, but here are just more things to throw in the pot and cause even more confusion.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:41 am

Shine....I am not offended at all....I said "wtf" in response to the article...what the person said....its just like everyone else who claims to "know what happened". They say they know, but dont tell us.
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Post by Shine on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:46 am

Firpo Carr used to work for 10 years for the LAPD, I dought as an detetive, but he worked there. So he must have some insights...and until the investigation isn´t over I guess we can only assume things Sad
Noone opened up, which is really frustating...
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Post by Thetruth on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:48 am

He believes that Michael was murderer and mistreated the last days of his life. That is his opinoin and he has every right to have one although I find him to be more plausible than the other crap we have been hearing. He smells somthing wrong and he is not even a part of the close "clan"...

Thanks for the info OP.
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Post by Sweet1 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:49 am

Nothing that Firpo Carr said in his article is disheartening to me to say the least. If I didn't know better I'd think he was reading threads from this forum let's say Annie and Souza81 and others that revealed what he was talking about when he said everything isn't as it seems and this is so mind boggling that we wouldn't be able to handle the truth. B.S.! I personally always seek the truth. If MJ is truly dead which I don't believe for a minute our world isn't going to end. Life goes on! We already know about AEG/Dr.Thome. Nothing that we have discovered about this has caused any of us to loose hope. So, he decides to equate MJ's death with President Kennedy a former president of the Free World. Okay! Most importantly if MJ is gone truly why in the hell is his family acting as though it's no big deal? Why don't they seek justice? My last question is why is Firpo so vehemently talking about MJ being dead? Are the masses suppose to believe it because he's saying it. I don't think so! I don't buy it! Keep the Faith!
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Post by me0101 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:59 am

Something seems fishy to me. I have to research this guys background, his connections, education, etc. There is a bigger picture here IMHO.
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Post by city.gal1 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:00 pm

Shine wrote:Firpo Carr used to work for 10 years for the LAPD, I dought as an detetive, but he worked there. So he must have some insights...and until the investigation isn´t over I guess we can only assume things Sad
Noone opened up, which is really frustating...

hi Shine, just curious...where did you get info that he was a detective or worked for LAPD. I've looked around some on the 'net and haven't seen that mentioned anywhere at all. So far I've come up with that he was supposed to be MJ's spiritual advisor and that no one is sure where the dr title came from (sound familiar?). thanks
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Post by SPAKKLE29FUL on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:21 pm

HI shine and welcome ,i know mj is not dead if that was the case his family would be going mental for justice, but instead all they see is money and self promotion.All i know is that if i was mjs mum and he had died like this,there would be nothing on earth that would stop me from getting justice,i would be on every media out let talking i think i would have moved into the police head quarters i would not stop. BUT nothing like this has happened its like they dont care which i dont believe, its more like they know the truth
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Re: This is dangerous, not fun!

Post by Lorrie on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:31 pm

Thanks for the link, Shine.

Firpo Carr doesn't say much of anything in that article that I haven't already heard or didn't already think myself:

(1) Nothing is as it seems on the surface in this situation.

(2) Someone was trying to murder Michael and his life was in great danger from very greedy, secretive, shady, and powerful enemies.

(3) Murray is just a fall guy, not the culprit directly responsible.

(4) We may never know exactly what happened because those involved are extremely devious, rich, and chronic liars.

(5) The LAPD/law enforcement investigation is not about what the general public thinks it is, and that's why no charges have been brought against anyone yet. They have much work to do getting to the bottom of the situation.

I still don't believe Michael is dead, but Carr's article does a good job raising the interest of gullible people who believe everything the media feeds them. I guess what he wrote would seem like "news" to them. Nonetheless, it was a nice read because it confirms what I've always believed.
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Post by mumof3 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:41 pm

If it is true dont you think the family would all pull together and work this out and get justice for Michael not work on concerts and reality shows and chat shows dose notmake sense to me
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Post by Lorrie on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:50 pm

mumof3 wrote:If it is true dont you think the family would all pull together and work this out and get justice for Michael not work on concerts and reality shows and chat shows dose notmake sense to me
mumof3, who knows what the Jacksons are actually doing behind the scenes? Maybe they ARE seeking justice away from the spotlight and are just really good multitaskers when it comes to carrying on with their public lives as normal.

They are a longtime, very experienced showbiz family that knows how to separate the private from the public, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.
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Re: This is dangerous, not fun!

Post by Shine on Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:03 pm

It´true that the Jackson family is an entertainment family where almost eveybody knows how to create a public image. But the truth is, that this family has very disfunctional dynamics which I can´t really name..

I don´t have the words but we have to consider that they are on different ways since almost 20 years, if not longer. They are not a bunch of brothers and sisters anymor, they are adults with an own life...
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