Don't Forget The SPIDER in TII Movie

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Post by Melzy777 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:06 am

Interesting.. Very Happy
But considering that's a tarantula, and this is a black widow, I don't think it has anything to do with James Bond. Sorry. Embarassed

I'm still going to stick with my original interpretation, which I'll explain here.

Michael Jackson > Black Widow > Thriller > Vincent Price narration
Alice Cooper > Devil's Food > Black Widow > Vincent Price narration

Vincent Price & Alice Cooper performing The Black Widow


Vincent Price & Michael Jackson in the studio recording Thriller.



Alice Cooper performance: Basically, on stage there would be dancers in Black Widow spider costume... because a mechanical version was probably too difficult in the 70's and not theatrical enough Laughing The choreographed struggle was an important aspect.. I think MJ & KO using a Black Widow spider, (hardly coincidental imo) in a song that Vincent Price narrated on is, on the surface, self-explanatory. It was a tribute to Vincent Price, horror movies, and, of course, looks awesome. It's just so obvious if people would take a moment to actually connect those dots.

But underneath the surface is the interesting part.. And, this quote really sums it up.
luvyoumj4ever wrote:Black widows represent death. When the spider comes on stage during the movie Michael comes out of the spider. He escaped death.
So, based on what I wrote above, I'd agree with that. The song 'Black Widow' is about being enslaved, controlled, and mindless conformation. In the live performances, Alice is attacked by dancers in Black Widow costume, and depending on the version of it, either dies or escapes.. In TII Thriller Michael has been trapped/swallowed/eaten by the Black Widow Spider machine.
VP: "In fact, immediately after the consummation of her marriage to the smaller and weaker male of the specie, she kills and eats him."
More accurately, a black widow would trap, kill and then eat the male. But in TII, MJ emerges from this unscathed.

Including the extra lyrics only convinced me more so of this, and for those who didn't know, they are available to be heard on Youtube.
They were recorded with the original, but to my knowledge, hadn't been used until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdS6mO6xfI

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LOL that spider remided me of the Supreme Leader from Capain EO!
Nice observation. And, likewise, The Supreme Leader in Captain EO reminds me of live performances of Alice Cooper's Black Widow from the 70's.
So, considering all that I've just posted.. We are here to change the world???
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Re: Don't Forget The SPIDER in TII Movie

Post by juliet on Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:20 am

Thanks MFORMICHAEL and GIRLINTHEMIRROR. I'm going to watch TII in the net links and compare it with VP Thriller.

MELZY, thanks for the info on Alice Cooper. I don't know anything about him cuz I never really enjoyed heavy rock music.

Anyway, the point is that Michael has escaped the death threat and he's alive.

Now I'm going to watch TII Movie.
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Post by KNOWhesALIVE on Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:29 am

luvyoumj4ever wrote:This is only my 3rd post since joining, sorry I haven't been better at it. But I visit everyday. Anyways, I mentioned about the spider in on of my post, only I thought it was a black widow spider. Black widows represent death. When the spider comes on stage during the movie Michael comes out of the spider. He escaped death.


Hmm good point... It's that his way of showing us he escaped death.... ... But good point thou
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Re: Don't Forget The SPIDER in TII Movie

Post by [Spread LOVE] Like Butter on Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:38 pm

Melzy777 wrote:Interesting..
But considering that's a tarantula, and this is a black widow, I don't think it has anything to do with James Bond. Sorry.

I'm still going to stick with my original interpretation, which I'll explain here.

Michael Jackson > Black Widow > Thriller > Vincent Price narration
Alice Cooper > Devil's Food > Black Widow > Vincent Price narration

Vincent Price & Alice Cooper performing The Black Widow


Vincent Price & Michael Jackson in the studio recording Thriller.



Alice Cooper performance: Basically, on stage there would be dancers in Black Widow spider costume... because a mechanical version was probably too difficult in the 70's and not theatrical enough The choreographed struggle was an important aspect.. I think MJ & KO using a Black Widow spider, (hardly coincidental imo) in a song that Vincent Price narrated on is, on the surface, self-explanatory. It was a tribute to Vincent Price, horror movies, and, of course, looks awesome. It's just so obvious if people would take a moment to actually connect those dots.

But underneath the surface is the interesting part.. And, this quote really sums it up.
luvyoumj4ever wrote:Black widows represent death. When the spider comes on stage during the movie Michael comes out of the spider. He escaped death.
So, based on what I wrote above, I'd agree with that. The song 'Black Widow' is about being enslaved, controlled, and mindless conformation. In the live performances, Alice is attacked by dancers in Black Widow costume, and depending on the version of it, either dies or escapes.. In TII Thriller Michael has been trapped/swallowed/eaten by the Black Widow Spider machine.
VP: "In fact, immediately after the consummation of her marriage to the smaller and weaker male of the specie, she kills and eats him."
More accurately, a black widow would trap, kill and then eat the male. But in TII, MJ emerges from this unscathed.

Including the extra lyrics only convinced me more so of this, and for those who didn't know, they are available to be heard on Youtube.
They were recorded with the original, but to my knowledge, hadn't been used until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdS6mO6xfI

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LOL that spider remided me of the Supreme Leader from Capain EO!
Nice observation. And, likewise, The Supreme Leader in Captain EO reminds me of live performances of Alice Cooper's Black Widow from the 70's.
So, considering all that I've just posted.. We are here to change the world???
Good points, very intresting.
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Post by mformichael on Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:19 am

Welcome,Juliet !All for LOVE and for our Michael !
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