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Post by KPNUTS on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:52 am

Here we are, nearly 5 months after the 'death' of Michael. I was just wondering how everybody was feeling.

I have to confess that I do get despondant at times, but then I come on this site and I feel better.

I don't believe much of the 2012 / TII links. I also find it hard to believe any of the facebook / Twitter postings by people who either claim to be MJ, or claim to know him. I'm not saying that they aren't Michael, but I'm not sure he would choose to communicate via this medium.

Yes, I'm sceptical - it's part of who I am. I desperately want Michael to be alive, and a significant part of me still believes he is. If he is, then I believe he is monitoring the situation, and is probably getting a bit restless with everything that is going on, as regards all the stories, etc. I don't think he'll be able to stay silent for much longer.

I will continue to keep the faith, until I hear otherwise. I'm not going to pay much attention to any news I hear, unless it comes either from Michael himself, or somebody we can trust.


Michael, if you're reading this, please end the speculation soon - we need you, the world needs you!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by ILuvUMoreMJ on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:59 am

You pretty much summed up the way I feel as well. I don't really believe in clues being sent out in any form. I do have to admit I feel a little less hopeful as time goes on, but there is still no proof either way so I'm holding on. I am a bit worried how I'll feel after watching Janet's interview tonight though. She has a career and fans of her own that she has to protect, so if she's in on the hoax I expect her to choose her words very carefully.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by andrea_garay2005 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:06 am

I couldn't agree more. I feel the same way. There were a LOT of people missleading us, I'll believe 100% MJ is alive when he comes out and says so. Till then is just strong hope. One part of me is very tired and wants to know the truth no matter what it is and just cope with it. Like everybody else I have good days and bad days. I surely hope he's alive and well.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by serendipity on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:10 am

Well, I personally believe that MJ is under the Witness Protection Program of the gov't.. Yes, he is alive.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by KPNUTS on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:32 pm

I don't think Janet will give too much away myself. I've already seen a couple of clips, and to me she's acting a bit strange. Maybe she can't say too much at the present time.

I too am getting a bit tired of all the stories at the moment. I just don't know what to believe anymore.

I know that there is one Christmas present that I long for this year - it'll be the best present ever!!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by Harleyblonde on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:06 pm

KPNUTS wrote:Here we are, nearly 5 months after the 'death' of Michael. I was just wondering how everybody was feeling.

I have to confess that I do get despondant at times, but then I come on this site and I feel better.

I don't believe much of the 2012 / TII links. I also find it hard to believe any of the facebook / Twitter postings by people who either claim to be MJ, or claim to know him. I'm not saying that they aren't Michael, but I'm not sure he would choose to communicate via this medium.

Yes, I'm sceptical - it's part of who I am. I desperately want Michael to be alive, and a significant part of me still believes he is. If he is, then I believe he is monitoring the situation, and is probably getting a bit restless with everything that is going on, as regards all the stories, etc. I don't think he'll be able to stay silent for much longer.

I will continue to keep the faith, until I hear otherwise. I'm not going to pay much attention to any news I hear, unless it comes either from Michael himself, or somebody we can trust.


Michael, if you're reading this, please end the speculation soon - we need you, the world needs you!
I agree with you as regards all the facebook/twitter etc and we do need to be sceptical and I do not think for a minute he would communicate in this way, all the nutters with nothing better to do tend to crawl out of the woodwork and mess with peoples minds when they can get away with it. I can quite happily disregard any Messages from anyone hinting they are or know MJ.
I do however think that MJ is quite able to stay silent for as long as he wants, he is sensitive and therefore has patience and will maybe never intend to reveal himself and can maybe stay hidden forever. We have no actual proof that MJ will in fact return and the case may be that he never will. I am by far not alone in this opinion. I hope I am wrong but it is something to seriously consider. I think it has gone too far for him to return..........
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by NYMoonwalker on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:42 pm

I'm going to be completely honest. As time goes on, I become more and more hopeless. I tend to feel like I come on to this forum to make myself feel better; to trick myself. Believing he is alive keeps me sane and prevents me from breaking down sometimes. Some days I wake up confident and happy thinking Michael is alive & enjoying his life once and for all, far away from all this nonsense. But on other days I am so completely lost and confused. Sometimes saying my thoughts out loud makes me feel like a nut..and the looks I receive when I finish explaining my theories don't help lol. Things like the Janet interview are like a slap in the face to me. A wake up call - to realize that in fact, he might actually be...gone. That is a real possibility. Then I think about why I became a part of this forum and why I've been investigating for almost 5 months. There are so many inconsistencies that have not been cleared up, so many lies and weird behaviors that once again lead me to the same conclusion : Something is wrong. I am not sure of what exactly is wrong or whether he is alive or not. But most of the time my heart tells me that he is still here on this earth. Still living and breathing. I think This Is It helped me see that he was not some walking skeleton, he did not appear like a sickly drug addict. Had that been the case, I would have quit this forum. I probably would have bought into that addict story. But my gut tells me that it's not true and I will follow my instincts. I'm desperately trying to hold on to hope, but hey, I'm human and I tend to have my weak moments. Just recently tI get them more often. I like to toy around with the idea of Michael on a blog, or a friend giving out a clue on twitter, but I know that could never be lol. Michael is too smart for that. The only real clues in my mind are the ambulance photo, the family's behavior, the DC, the funeral/memorial, and the lack of action from the LAPD. So all in all, I think Michael lives, but I doubt we will see him again. I know many of you believe in a return..I wish I did too. But I can't imagine him doing this and coming back to a lynch mob. So I think some of us will live in doubt for a very long time, if not..forever. So I think it's best to just take a long breath and relax. If something truly amazing happens or Michael comes back, I am sure we will ALL know. No need to over analyze every single picture and article. We're all going to truly go insane lol. We will know if and when Michael wants us to know. Michael, for one reason or another wants us to believe he is dead, and he's doing a pretty damn good job at it. Maybe it's best to respect his wishes?

Sorry for the length of this. I was just thinking out loud and venting. I needed it & it feels really good Smile
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by Whipy111 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:51 pm

I think he's gone. Idk, I'm starting to lose hope.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:54 pm

Yeah I don't believe any of those people, including that Cassandra lady. She seems like a phony. Then again, a lot of people do. But I do think it is a hoax. I will admit that at times I have my doubts if Michael really is alive, because the media is feeding us all this crap. Sometimes I think, "Is this just wishful thinking?" But it absolutely isn't wishful thinking, it is proof. We have so much proof he is alive. Much more proof then we have that he is dead. There are too many strange occurrences and coincidences. And I'm not gonna give up now. I've been looking up information and trying to figure this whole thing out for 4 months. And I don't want all of that research to have been done in vain. I DO believe he is alive, and I desperately hope he comes back soon so we can come to an end of all of this confusion and chaos.

(Oh, and at first I was having my doubts after watching the Janet interview until I found out she lied about where she was when MJ died. 1 time she said she was at home, the next time she was in Atlanta. You don't forget something like that. So after finding out she lied, that took away a lot of the doubt.)
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by JustJamiee on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:57 pm


I feel the same way to be honest. I'm sort of crossing my fingers for the whole Nov. 25th thing.. and after that...i really don't know.
A part of me will NEVER let me fully believe he's gone.
I just really don't see that happening. But i don't know...
life goes on..
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by KPNUTS on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:05 pm

It's very difficult, if not impossible, to accept that he's gone. I really can't think that way at them moment.

Did anybody see the thread about Jan 18th being a significant date as far as the investigation is concerned? If course, it could be bad news for us here, but it could also mean something more positive...

It's so difficult at the moment. We're constantly being fed information. A lot of it, I suspect, is complete rubbish.

I don't think I can go on much longer not knowing the truth.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by imabeliever2 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:12 pm

I understand exactly where you're coming from. I have spent so much time thinking, researching and looking at clues that my head is spinning. I have said....fine is MJ was us to believe that he is dead, then so be it. But something inside of me just won't allow me to quit. My mind say's to just let it go, but my heart won't. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just holding onto this belief because as a fan, I miss him soooo much. But I have realized that its more than that! The entire situation is just way too strange, and now this suicide of the father of the young boy who accused MJ of molesting him. It just goes on and on. All that I can say is that we have to believe whats in our hearts and spirits and not give up on what we feel deep inside until it can be truthfully proven otherwise and so far on one has done that. As a matter of fact the more the media tries, the more we believe in the hoax. But in the end, the TRUTH will prevail.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:13 pm

Look guys, we can't give up hope now! I know it gets frustrating and all, but just because he doesn't come back on OUR time and when WE want him to doesn't mean he is dead. Why would he come back right after he faked his death anyway?? We just need to be patient. Think about all the proof that he is alive:

Dr. Murray still hasn't been arrested.
The 911 call...well that speaks for itself.
It's been 5 months and we aren't any closer to solving the case then they were within the 1st 3 months or so.
Joe Jackson is acting extremely odd. Now I know this is expected of him, but what about Jermain smiling while Paris is giving her speech. Didn't you notice that? If not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRAhsLnhenE&feature=related
At 50 seconds you can see him smile...why?

There was a REAL death hoax about 6 or 7 months ago saying MJ was dead. He was, in fact still alive. I personally believe that whoever announced it just missed their cue. here is the news report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPFAEWxP1bg

The funeral was an hour late, not to mention we never saw his body at the memorial. Even Elvis had an open casket funeral!
In This Is It they decided to use the movie Gilda for his Smooth Criminal video...in which he played the man who faked his death.
The doctors REFUSED to sign his death certificate, and therefore Latoya signed it.
Even Marlon has admitted that MJ's will wasn't signed by him. Now the only reason I can think as of why it wasn't signed by him is because he desperately needed a will before he "died"
And there are many other things that have happened. So please, keep the faith!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by imabeliever2 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:29 pm

I got this from the Wikopedia Site

I can't remember, but I also heard him make this statement from his own mouth. Michael knew that people believed everything the tabloids/media reported. So when he wanted publicity he would just inform the tabloids/media....the same way he did with the DEATHHOAX!

These reports became embedded in the public consciousness, inspiring the nickname "Wacko Jacko," which Jackson came to despise.[53] Responding to the gossip, Jackson remarked to a reporter:

Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars. Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a damn word that comes out of his mouth."[54


He became the subject of increasingly sensational reports. In 1986, the tabloids ran a story claiming that Jackson slept in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber to slow the aging process; he was pictured lying down in a glass box. Although the claim was untrue, Jackson had disseminated the fabricated story himself.[48][49] When Jackson bought a chimpanzee called Bubbles from a laboratory, it was reported as an example of increasing detachment from reality.[50] It was reported that Jackson had offered to buy the bones of Joseph Merrick (the "elephant man") and although untrue, Jackson did not deny the story.[48][49] Although initially he saw these stories as publicity, he stopped leaking untruths to the press as they became more sensational, so the media began making up their own stories.[49][51][52]
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by YouAreMyLifeMJ on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:32 pm

imabeliever2 wrote:I got this from the Wikopedia Site

I can't remember, but I also heard him make this statement from his own mouth. Michael knew that people believed everything the tabloids/media reported. So when he wanted publicity he would just inform the tabloids/media....the same way he did with the DEATHHOAX!

These reports became embedded in the public consciousness, inspiring the nickname "Wacko Jacko," which Jackson came to despise.[53] Responding to the gossip, Jackson remarked to a reporter:

Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars. Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a damn word that comes out of his mouth."[54


He became the subject of increasingly sensational reports. In 1986, the tabloids ran a story claiming that Jackson slept in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber to slow the aging process; he was pictured lying down in a glass box. Although the claim was untrue, Jackson had disseminated the fabricated story himself.[48][49] When Jackson bought a chimpanzee called Bubbles from a laboratory, it was reported as an example of increasing detachment from reality.[50] It was reported that Jackson had offered to buy the bones of Joseph Merrick (the "elephant man") and although untrue, Jackson did not deny the story.[48][49] Although initially he saw these stories as publicity, he stopped leaking untruths to the press as they became more sensational, so the media began making up their own stories.[49][51][52]

Well this is certainly the perfect way to fool the media. And when he said to say: "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight,"
I don't know why but that really made me laugh.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by mjj29081958 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:36 pm

KPNUTS wrote:Here we are, nearly 5 months after the 'death' of Michael. I was just wondering how everybody was feeling.

I have to confess that I do get despondant at times, but then I come on this site and I feel better.

I don't believe much of the 2012 / TII links. I also find it hard to believe any of the facebook / Twitter postings by people who either claim to be MJ, or claim to know him. I'm not saying that they aren't Michael, but I'm not sure he would choose to communicate via this medium.

Yes, I'm sceptical - it's part of who I am. I desperately want Michael to be alive, and a significant part of me still believes he is. If he is, then I believe he is monitoring the situation, and is probably getting a bit restless with everything that is going on, as regards all the stories, etc. I don't think he'll be able to stay silent for much longer.

I will continue to keep the faith, until I hear otherwise. I'm not going to pay much attention to any news I hear, unless it comes either from Michael himself, or somebody we can trust.


Michael, if you're reading this, please end the speculation soon - we need you, the world needs you!

Completely agree with you!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by lou on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:40 pm

KPNUTS wrote:I desperately want Michael to be alive, and a significant part of me still believes he is. If he is, then I believe he is monitoring the situation, and is probably getting a bit restless with everything that is going on, as regards all the stories, etc. I don't think he'll be able to stay silent for much longer.

Michael, if you're reading this, please end the speculation soon - we need you, the world needs you!

I feel the same.

I think that if MJ doesn't come back it's because he really - unfortunately - passed away, and we'll have to accept it. I don't think he can live in hiding for the rest of his life. I don't see how one can live in peace if they can't even go out with their family anymore because now it's too risky.

I keep in mind that maybe the time will come when dr. Murray gets arrested (though I don't believe it) or when they release an information that leaves no more doubts in our minds. On the other hand, I remember all the inconsistencies, the contradictions and the coincidences (the media was saying MJ died/ was going to die since Dec 2008, for example - too many coincidences!!) and I keep hoping. Keep the faith!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by Gema on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:43 pm

andrea_garay2005 wrote:I couldn't agree more. I feel the same way. There were a LOT of people missleading us, I'll believe 100% MJ is alive when he comes out and says so. Till then is just strong hope. One part of me is very tired and wants to know the truth no matter what it is and just cope with it. Like everybody else I have good days and bad days. I surely hope he's alive and well.
I love you Michael, we need you!

You read my mind!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by anotherpartofme on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:48 pm

I still believe that he is alive!!!
I have to admit that there are days when all seems hopeless....
But I decided to believe what is in my heart and it says to me that he is still with us cheers
So- keep the faith!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by Harleyblonde on Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:15 pm

lou wrote:
KPNUTS wrote:I desperately want Michael to be alive, and a significant part of me still believes he is. If he is, then I believe he is monitoring the situation, and is probably getting a bit restless with everything that is going on, as regards all the stories, etc. I don't think he'll be able to stay silent for much longer.

Michael, if you're reading this, please end the speculation soon - we need you, the world needs you!

I feel the same.

I think that if MJ doesn't come back it's because he really - unfortunately - passed away, and we'll have to accept it. I don't think he can live in hiding for the rest of his life. I don't see how one can live in peace if they can't even go out with their family anymore because now it's too risky.

I keep in mind that maybe the time will come when dr. Murray gets arrested (though I don't believe it) or when they release an information that leaves no more doubts in our minds. On the other hand, I remember all the inconsistencies, the contradictions and the coincidences (the media was saying MJ died/ was going to die since Dec 2008, for example - too many coincidences!!) and I keep hoping. Keep the faith!
I will never accept that he is dead when he doesn't do a "comeback". Never will I believe that. Also why can't he live in relative seclusion for the rest of his life? He has lived like that for years, if he did go out it was either in very heavy disguise or he was unable to go anywhere without his large entourage in fear of being mobbed by hundreds. He couldn't go out safely with his family before so nothing has changed. Also how do we know he hasn't changed his appearance? Do not think that-keep the faith that he lives!
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by marsheliamorgan on Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:31 pm

i will always believe that he is ALIVE somewhere and is thru with all the "celebrity" stuff and crap he had to put up with and go thru, he loves his fans and admirers yes,however, he wanted and was ready for PRIVACY with no one looking over his shoulder or waiting for him to make a mis-step,or something that could be interpeted as a "mistake" i think he was tired and exhausted of the dog and pony show,tired of the spotlight and hoopla,and just wanted to be left alone (so to speak) i will love him,his spirt,his soul,his kindness,talent and all, i dont and wont hold ANY ill feelings towards him,he gave his all and more to us than most have ever given and he owes us nothing. after 40 some odd years in the business he deserves anything he wants.his messages and love that he gave is all we are most likely going to have left to sustain us. i use to think he would make a comeback,but,the more i think of it,i WOULDNT it if i was him, i would enjoy my "retirement years"ever heard the song,SOME GAVE ALL? by billy ray cyrus, well, michael gave his ALL and then some.he has nothing to be ashamed about,or embarrassed about. he was genuine,and rare,i wish he didnt have to go to these extremes to get the message across and for peace, but, media and other haters just couldnt stand to see him for real,they wanted to turn his message and love into something ougly they couldnt and wouldnt accept it, so,i guess in alot of ways,this was the ONLY way. i wish him love,peace,happiness,and harmony.
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Re: A question for you all....

Post by Minamai on Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:46 pm



Come on guys do not lose faith, Michael is coming back, behind all this there is something big and I think very top people involved will fall.
True, sometimes things do not go with the style of Mike but I think he is not taking the matter,
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