Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown

by queenpanther55 Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:49 pm

around 7pm yesterday, I was browsing the TMZ thread about THIS IS IT song , because I was very much interested to know the critics, a certain commenter had personally shared the sadness he/she felt over the the new song.

It really caught my attention because he/she writes something so deep , very very deep.. and the end of his/her message was a url.

because I was so excited, i didnt pay much attention to the poster/commenter NAME and went directly to the URL he/she gave.,

The site was very skeptic, very solemn, very mysterious..and difficult to understand..

The way i understand the whole site, it gave a whole lot idea of what really happened about MJ , somehow, somewhat true.

I get back to TMZ to search again the name who post the site but literally i cant find it anymore. (maybe i was already too sleepy).

judge and see for yourself , let us help each other

http://www.lookin.biz/ - real? or not?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/12/michael-jackson-this-is-it-song/#comments - this is where i got the comments but cant find it anymore? is it possible to just erase your comments? please help..

its very difficult to understand , and maybe just maybe we can help solve the puzzle.
What can you say about it?

by juliet Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:29 pm

So does this have anything to do at all with Michael???

by annieisnotokey Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:33 pm

http://datrootwillprevail.blogspot.com/2009/08/07-world-war-ii-political-decoys-and.html

Political decoy theory, posted 2 weeks before The Story of Lily & Jack.

by queenpanther55 Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:21 am

juliet wrote:So does this have anything to do at all with Michael???

yes i think so. because someone /a commenter under TMZ thread commented on the song "this is it". this someone was deeply sad and hurt and just post on the link - given above.

so when i opened it, i was surprise to see and read everything.

i didnt ignore it because i think this is passing on the message.
though its really difficult to understand.
but the message is there.

im wondering who the dragon, the persona, the lily, and jack.

i think it sunk in to me already. i read it once in awhile..

by badloving Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:22 am

i read about that joke calms china guy there....so i guess it has something to do with mj....but i don't get that story about lily and jack.....could someone enlighten me...that would be great... Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_eek

by Harleyblonde Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:56 am

Remembering about Montgomery in the war has given me new hope, I remember seeing the old film on TV a few years ago and my Gran told me about the true story. Very interesting and James certainly did pull it off and had people fooled. This was also remember very important, we were fooling the enemy in an effort to win the war and not just as a decoy to hoards of screaming fans. Read about it and see what you think;

Meyrick Edward Clifton James (1898 - 8 May 1963) was an actor and soldier, notable for his resemblance to Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery.
Clifton James was born in Perth, Australia, the youngest son of notable Australian public servant John Charles Horsey James, and his wife Rebecca Catherine Clifton.^[1] After serving in World War I he took up acting and at the outbreak of World War II volunteered his services to the Army as an entertainer. Instead of being assigned to ENSA as he had hoped, Clifton James was commissioned into the Royal Army Pay Corps in 1940 and eventually posted to Leicester. Here, his acting seemed to be limited to his membership of the Pay Corps Drama and Variety Group.
About seven weeks before D-Day in 1944, a British Lieutenant-Colonel, J.V.B. Jervis-Reid, noticed Clifton James's resemblance to Montgomery while he was reviewing photographs in a newspaper; James, it seemed had 'rescued' a failing patriotic show by appearing in it, quite briefly, as 'Monty.' MI5 decided to exploit the resemblance to confuse German intelligence. James was contacted by Colonel David Niven, who worked for the Army's film unit, and was asked to come to London on the pretext of making a film. The ruse was part of a wider deception which aimed to divert troops from northern France, by convincing the Germans that an Allied invasion of Southern France (see Operation Dragoon) would precede a northern invasion.^[2]
The plan was code-named Operation Copperhead and Clifton James was assigned to Montgomery's staff to learn his speech and mannerisms. Despite the problems that he had with alcohol (Montgomery did not drink at all), and the differences in personality, the project continued. He also had to give up smoking. Clifton James had lost his right-hand middle finger in the First World War and so a prosthetic finger was made.
On 25 May 1944 Clifton James flew from RAF Northolt to Gibraltar on Churchill's private aircraft. At a reception at the governor-general's house, hints were made about Plan 303, a plan to invade southern France. German intelligence picked this up and ordered agents to find out what they could about Plan 303.
Clifton James then flew to Algiers where over the next few days he made a round of public appearances with General Maitland Wilson, the Allied commander in the Mediterranean theatre. Clifton James was then secretly flown to Cairo where he stayed until the invasion in Normandy was well underway. He then returned to his job after an absence of five weeks.
Various reasons were put forward for the speedy conclusion of the operation (including the suggestion that Clifton James was seen in Gibralter smoking and drunk), though the most likely explanation is the one put forward by Dennis Wheatley in 'The Deception Planners,' published in 1980s. In it, he states that the operation was wound up successfully, its purpose accomplished. He also suggests that it ended 'rather patheticaly' and that Clifton James was simply hidden out of sight in a hotel in Algiers with a whiskey bottle for company. He was to end his war still in the Pay Corps, apparantly forgotten, having to lie about his missing five weeks, having been (according to Wheatley) 'treated shabbily' with no official recognition for his services.
In 1954 Clifton James published his exploits in a book entitled - I Was Monty's Double. It seemed to strike a chord with the Britsh public at the time, as quite a few wartime secrets were entering print under the Ten Year rule. It was even parodied by Spike Milligan, in concept if not in plot, in the Goon Show episode 'I was Monty's Treble'("So, we need forty thousand Monty's doubles, eh? We'll have to form regiments!"). The book became the basis for the script of the 1958 film of the same name, starring John Mills and Cecil Parker with Clifton James playing himself and Montgomery. The script was 'tweaked' for effect; 'Operation Copperhead' became 'Operation Hambone,' and additional elements of comedy, danger and intrigue were added, but it largely follows the story given in the book, and gave Clifton James a deserved if belated recognition, and a sort of screen immortality. He died on 8 May 1963 at his home on Thorn Road in Worthing Sussex, aged 65.^[3] The Daily Mail of May 9th 1963 quotes Viscount Montgomery, then himself 75, as saying of James; "He was not a friend of mine. Only met him once. Of course he observed me a great deal. He did a very good job, a very good job, and fooled the Germans at a critical time of the war. I am very sorry to hear of his death."

by queenpanther55 Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:35 am

badloving wrote:i read about that joke calms china guy there....so i guess it has something to do with mj....but i don't get that story about lily and jack.....could someone enlighten me...that would be great...

I PM annieisokey about this blog and ask her way to give some insights and she told me she's glad to share once she read everything.

The link and site was posted on the comment under TMZ thread for "this is it" song. Im not sure if how many commenters paid attention to that. I researched for the name of the poster again but couldnt find it anymore.

If Joke Calms China is Michael Jackson code name then its really something. Someone somebody is giving the message. This is really very difficult to understand.

Anyway, theres 5 person involved in the story i guess. The persona who is writing it, is telling it is just a FICTION.

But I want to understand it this way, Michael made up this fictitious story and want it to happen for real.
I mean the whole story about hazelnuts, lily and jack was a story he made.

But the FICTION becomes a TRUE STORY now.

that is what is happening now.
The Dragon
Lily and Jack
Hazelnut
Persona
all were michael fictitious characters but were all DUMMYs.

it is evident for some facts , yes. it made a lot of sense because the DUMMYs happens to exist and made the characters alive.

by juliet Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:15 am

Thanks for explaining. Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_cheers

I can't think right now because I have posted some things today related to Michael's double (I think under SIGNS OF MICHAEL), and I'll post more later then, Okay?

by queenpanther55 Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:22 am

@ Harley

gee.., I guess annieisitokey is making her point about the DECOY.

I guess were heading to the right track. I guess the site measures up everything that happened.

it give ME hope that MJ i guess is ALIVE and was working on behind the scene.

with his DUMMYS

http://www.lookin.biz/

Laughing

by badloving Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:23 am

yeah thank you for explaining.....interesting..... Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_bounce

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:37 am

Geez! That site is acting so weird! Did anyone notice that date-24th June on the first page right under "Hi there JCC"? Cuz i noticed that, then smth happened, smth weird jumped out-i have no idea what it was now-disappeared and it took me to the upper part this page and when i scrolled down i couldnt see that date anymore. Where it is and what does it mean guys? Im just curious. Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Confused

Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Confused

ok ok! got it now! Very Happy

by MacyBlue Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:13 am

I have been reading this lily & jack site for a few weeks now . I understand most of it , except teh hazelnut parts . It is a cryptic , symbolic story . the site is sort of jumbled up .

TMZ deletes these posts as soon as they come across them . TMZ does that with a lot of posts that are very interesting . I think sometimes they don't want anyone to get too close to the truth .

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:32 am

MacyBlue wrote:I have been reading this lily & jack site for a few weeks now . I understand most of it , except teh hazelnut parts . It is a cryptic , symbolic story . the site is sort of jumbled up .

TMZ deletes these posts as soon as they come across them . TMZ does that with a lot of posts that are very interesting . I think sometimes they don't want anyone to get too close to the truth .

u serious??? about deleting posts by TMZ

by MacyBlue Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:47 am

yes . it happens often .

by AugustMoon Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:00 am

MacyBlue wrote:I have been reading this lily & jack site for a few weeks now . I understand most of it , except teh hazelnut parts . It is a cryptic , symbolic story . the site is sort of jumbled up .

TMZ deletes these posts as soon as they come across them . TMZ does that with a lot of posts that are very interesting . I think sometimes they don't want anyone to get too close to the truth .

the hazelnut parts?!?! cryptic , for ferrero rocher and private parts,i bet ya! Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_razz

by queenpanther55 Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:26 am

Angie777 wrote:Geez! That site is acting so weird! Did anyone notice that date-24th June on the first page right under "Hi there JCC"? Cuz i noticed that, then smth happened, smth weird jumped out-i have no idea what it was now-disappeared and it took me to the upper part this page and when i scrolled down i couldnt see that date anymore. Where it is and what does it mean guys? Im just curious.

ok ok! got it now!

LOL ive noticed that too.. as if the scrolling was being controlled. Yayks!

yeah, this is deep for me. Im interested to solve this. I wanted to know what is behind this lily and jack story.

1. What is Healfhearted knew MOA too
2. Who is Dragon
3. Who is Lily and Jack
4. IM SURE MAYOR is Doctor Murray
5. Who is Persona
6. What about the hazelnuts?

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:29 am

Ok.....Im totally confused. I havent been able to keep up eith certain things posted here but....who the heck are lily and jack? and what does this have to do with Michael?
Im very tired right now so if someone could just tell me in the simplest terms possible? Im soory to be a pain.

by neverlandprincess Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:35 am

@Jacksonolagist-HAHAHA!!! I don't think I am gonna go here

by queenpanther55 Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:35 am

MacyBlue wrote:I have been reading this lily & jack site for a few weeks now . I understand most of it , except teh hazelnut parts . It is a cryptic , symbolic story . the site is sort of jumbled up .

TMZ deletes these posts as soon as they come across them . TMZ does that with a lot of posts that are very interesting . I think sometimes they don't want anyone to get too close to the truth .

when i start opening the site and read it 3x, i decided to go back to tmz thread and searched for the name of the person who post it but couldnt find it. believe me or not, i go through all the pages and read it one by one but couldnt find it anymore.

i gave up - but it helped me realized this site has a message.

by the way, amongst all comments , it was the only one that caught my attention. he/she express sadness, ( i dont remember the words that was used, but its really really very deep. as if he/she want you to open the link.

have you read it? what do you think?

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:08 am

neverlandprincess wrote:@Jacksonolagist-HAHAHA!!! I don't think I am gonna go here

Why not? Too long of a story?

I know, Im just lazy today! LOL

by neverlandprincess Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:13 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:
neverlandprincess wrote:@Jacksonolagist-HAHAHA!!! I don't think I am gonna go here

Why not? Too long of a story?

I know, Im just lazy today! LOL

No-that was not a hit at you-lol-It is just that I was thinking the same thing-What is this talking about????? I like so don't want to follow some other weird thing-there is only so much I can handle at one time! lol

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:27 am

AugustMoon wrote:
MacyBlue wrote:I have been reading this lily & jack site for a few weeks now . I understand most of it , except teh hazelnut parts . It is a cryptic , symbolic story . the site is sort of jumbled up .

TMZ deletes these posts as soon as they come across them . TMZ does that with a lot of posts that are very interesting . I think sometimes they don't want anyone to get too close to the truth .

the hazelnut parts?!?! cryptic , for ferrero rocher and private parts,i bet ya!

Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Smilie_happy_309

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:17 pm

Ok...I just read about Jack and Lily and seriously...........................WTF?
OMG!!!

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:27 pm

Hence my post about MISDIRECTION. what the eyes "see" and the ears "hear"...the mind "believes"...

by See Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:22 pm

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:Ok...I just read about Jack and Lily and seriously...........................WTF?
OMG!!!

Oke Jacksonologist, could you give us some breef into the story...LOL
Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Lol

by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:07 pm

You havent read it yet?

by lovelidae Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:24 pm

I'm about to read it right now. You guys have me a little excited.

by See Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:27 pm

@ the Jacksonologist
I was waiting for you to read it and give me a summary... I feel lazy LOL

by MacyBlue Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:27 pm

Jacksonologist : see? it's worth a read ...... but it's hard to explain ...once you " get it " you "get it " .... I think it's meant to be a secret but they keep sticking it out there on TMZ . It's quite obviously about MJ .

by See Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:36 pm

MacyBlue wrote:Jacksonologist : see? it's worth a read ...... but it's hard to explain ...once you " get it " you "get it " .... I think it's meant to be a secret but they keep sticking it out there on TMZ . It's quite obviously about MJ .

The site was so depressing and I am tired Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Suspect

...but since you put it like that, I am going to read it. Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_study

by MacyBlue Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:39 pm

I'll be honest ...someone wants it to be seen ...... but I have a feeling if it gets too " out there in the open " that it may disappear .

by lovelidae Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:06 pm

Okay guys, I don't know if any of you saw the countdown on this webpage but there is one when you hover your mouse over the "nothing special :-)" phrase on the right hand of the screen. There is a countdown there that has 73 days left. When I counted 73 days from now is in December. There was a french phrase in front of it that said:

"Le livre de script, qu'est-ce que toute cale, est écrit en allemand, anglais et français. Il avait tout pensé. "

When I translated online I got this:

"The book of script, what any chock, is written in German, English and French. He had thought of everything."

Now, I don't know if this is a good translation or not. Does someone speak french that could give us a better idea of what this means?

What is this countdown counting down to? What does this phrase mean? Did anyone else see this?

This is interesting.

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:08 pm

I think Human_nature said in another thread that she can translate from French but I don´t know if she´s here.

by Human_nature Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:11 pm

Yes I can translate french Smile

This is the good translation lovelidae Smile

by lovelidae Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:15 pm

Okay so what do you guys think it means?

I found this information, but I need the magic of this forum to help me figure it out.

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:21 pm

@lovelidae

ooops, its exactly 25th DECEMBER! Christmas come Back?!

Okay, i'll say it straight! Havent read it yet! But!

"The book of script, what any chock, is written in German, English and French. He had thought of everything."

IMO-could be that Mike wrote that script for the hoax, and when he comes back it'll be for sale automatically in many countries for the fans worldwide Very Happy

by Human_nature Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:21 pm

I really don't know, but the only book I heard about is the OPUS one.

Maybe we'll have another one for Christmas, but written in many langages...?

This is very strange, I don't know what to think right now....

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:24 pm

Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:32 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

okay okay, thats how i think Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_basketball

by lovelidae Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:38 pm

Angie777 wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

okay okay, thats how i think

Hmmm...okay, I see where you guys are coming from. My wheels are starting to turn.

by Guest Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:49 pm

lovelidae wrote:
Angie777 wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

okay okay, thats how i think

Hmmm...okay, I see where you guys are coming from. My wheels are starting to turn.

easy girl, im trying to read it.. peace and love! Discover!!! The Story of LILY & JACK - by Unknown Icon_cheers

by See Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:49 pm

Oke I read the story... And it is written as a metaphor. You know like Virginia Wolf did...
aaaah it getting late and I'm tired... but the hazelnuts is a metaphore for remembering, passed memories etc I guess....LOL I guess my focus is off today....

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:57 pm

lovelidae wrote:
Angie777 wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

okay okay, thats how i think

Hmmm...okay, I see where you guys are coming from. My wheels are starting to turn.

I haven´t read the whole page with the link you´ve provided, I tried but it slows down my browser. I was only referring to the French part you translated.

by lovelidae Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:04 pm

MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:
lovelidae wrote:
Angie777 wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

okay okay, thats how i think

Hmmm...okay, I see where you guys are coming from. My wheels are starting to turn.

I haven´t read the whole page with the link you´ve provided, I tried but it slows down my browser. I was only referring to the French part you translated.

That's what I thought you meant. Thank you.

by MJFoReVeRandAlways Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:11 pm

lovelidae wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:
lovelidae wrote:
Angie777 wrote:
MJFoReVeRandAlways wrote:Well I interpret at is "He thought of every detail when he planned this, he read everything there was to read" meaning MJ planning his get away.

okay okay, thats how i think

Hmmm...okay, I see where you guys are coming from. My wheels are starting to turn.

I haven´t read the whole page with the link you´ve provided, I tried but it slows down my browser. I was only referring to the French part you translated.

That's what I thought you meant. Thank you.

Ok, good

by Stranger In Chi-town Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:48 pm

Hi!

I read the story. It was rather interesting and had me wondering about the characters presented in it. Has everyone read it yet?

by marsheliamorgan Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:37 pm

wow,this is DEEP,dates mentioned do relate to the obvious i would think,OR someone WANTING us to believe it relates to the obvious,i dont know what to make of it can someone put it in plain words?i relate the blanket (as children?)making it a show?the family and friends saying goodbye etc. this could all be related to michael i dont know tho,like i said,i am having a hard time putting it all together.help please

by mjssoulmate Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:58 pm

As I understand it, Mayor Curd is Dr. Murray, Jack refers to Michael, and Lily must be his double, who passed away on June 23rd. But Michael needed one more day to put his plan into action.

Don't know what the hazelnuts refer to, or who the 300 victims are.

by dancer1792 Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:04 pm

I think some of it is in anagrams. I've only read it once and understood about half of it but the thing that stuck out was this sentence:

Mayor Curd was permanently around Lily, also giving today the need treatment.

If you rearrange the letters Mayor Curd= Doc. Murray. So...maybe there are more anagrams in the story.

by dancer1792 Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:26 pm

In Celtic traditon a hazelnut tree stands for knowledge and partically in Ireland it is seen as a tree of mystical wisdom.

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