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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:48 am

I would just like to share my thoughts on prophecies/predictions/2012 Movie/Iluminati/etc.

Please remember the song JAM of Michael which was included in the TII Movie.
The lyrics/message:
"I have to find my peace cuz
No one seems to let me be
False prophecies cry of doom
What are the possibilities
I told my brother
There'll be problems
Times and tears for fears
But we must live each day
Like it's the last"

"The world keeps changing
Rearranging minds
And thoughts
Predictions fly of doom
The baby boom
Has come of age
We'll work it out"

So, what he's trying to say is that the world will have problems but if we have love, we can work out these problems, no matter how different groups of people will try to seem convincing with their presentations of the world and the future.
Michael said in his song
"Have we lost love
Of what it's about"

Please think with your hearts.

Thanks.
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Post by dexember on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:03 am

Did you know all the planets align on the day in 2012 that was predicted the world would end, sending out a massive wave, and last time that happened, scientists believe was the wave that made the dinosaurs extinct.

So personally, I keep an open mind. It might happen it might not.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:21 am

They said "Y2K" was supposed to happen ... never did .... I believe that God will decide when it is time ... to anyone who doesn't believe in god - I am sorry ... No Offense to anyone .....
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Post by dexember on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:29 am

Y2K wasn't predicted thousands of years ago though, it was all about technology etc. This has been around since the Mayan's. This has scientific reasoning behind it. I don't mean this to come off strong, but really, it's nothing like Y2K. Smile
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:33 am

Science and religion will have a say on all things, but the point is never lose your heart because no matter what we're faced with, we can find solutions to problems(simple or grave). With all that's happening now, everybody is deciphering this and that, and they forget that they have a heart that finds a way to overcome difficulties.

I have faith in mankind because God has created us. Different circumstances change men and sometimes result to the deadening of their heart. They forget that they are created out of love and each day I'm grateful for that.
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Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:42 am

Ok going to try and post again @ dexember...... I want your signature. Over the last few months I have seen this before and it is the only thing that actually makes me laugh out loud. It is very very funny and i need to get it on my computer.

I have my own thoughts on the yr 2012 and drive everyone crazy with my ideas. I agree that we need to keep an open mind.

I am an old woman therefore have read and heard alot over the yrs and although I do not believe the world will end I believe the world as we know it will change. I for one look forward to this as things now are not so great.

Never underestimate the knowledge of past civilizations as they have alot to say. This information comes not just from the Mayans but from the Chinese cultures and others. The planet may shift polar wise therefore cause great changes in weather etc.

Look it up. It is very interesting


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Re: On Prophecies/Predictions/2012 Movie and the like

Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:43 am

EarthAngel90 wrote: I believe that God will decide when it is time ... to anyone who doesn't believe in god - I am sorry ... No Offense to anyone .....

I agree And that is the truth. No matter how intelligent one is to prove their speculations or theories, let no one forget that God knows everything. Men may err, but God doesn't. Things may change, but God doesn't.

So, this is a forum about Michael and everything about Michael. What I'm pointing out is his song JAM with its message.


Thanks for your thoughts DEXEMBER.


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Post by dexember on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:45 am

LovelyLurker wrote:Ok going to try and post again @ dexember...... I want your signature. Over the last few months I have seen this before and it is the only thing that actually makes me laugh out loud. It is very very funny and i need to get it on my computer.

I have my own thoughts on the yr 2012 and drive everyone crazy with my ideas. I agree that we need to keep an open mind.

I am an old woman therefore have read and heard alot over the yrs and although I do not belive the world will end I believe the worls as we know it wil change. I for one look forward to this as things now are not so great.

Never underestimate the knowledge of past civilizations as they have alot to say. This information comes not just from the Mayans but from the Chinese cultures and others. The planet may shift polar wise therefore cause great changes in weather etc.

Look it up. It is very interesting

I really should look it up a little more :-) my knowledge is only off what other people have been telling me. I agree it is really interesting.

and it's good to hear that my sig makes you laugh! Very Happy humor is what keeps the world turning Razz
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Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:49 am

There are other things at play othere than God.

As a non believer in God I cannot think that nature and evolution and the planet forces are more realistic.

See what the planet is doing right now. Listen to MJ's message about the planet and his message about 4 yrs to change things. God cannot erase the damage done and cannot change the many years of evolution and planetary influences.
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:53 am

Thanks LOVELY LURKER. YOur thoughts and comments are very much appreciated.
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Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:12 am

@ dexember I can promise you that if you look it up it will facinate you. I am a very logical yet open minded person and past civilizations are very ineresting.

Perhaps you are young but i can guarentee that if you start looking into Egyption philosophies and Mayan history you will be intrigued.

The polar shift is what some believe caused the demiss of the dinasaur age therefore if there is another polar shift due, it will also cause much havoc in our world. Not the end but much havoc.

@ Juliet. I have much respect for your beliefs. I would never dismiss your values and belief in your religion. Some of my most valued friends are deeply religious and I would never disregard what they wish to put thier faith in I always have said "to each their own"

Religion is defined in the dictionary as " a core set of values and belief that one wishes to adhere to" so therefore we all have our own relgion do we not? My religion may be different from yours but that does not make them less valuable to ourselves. Beleive what you need and want to ... It is yours and yours alone.
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:27 am

Thanks again LOVELYLURKER, I have many friends from different countries and of different religions. We share thoughts,ideas and fuse them together to help other people. Religion should never be used to justify the wickedness/problems in the world and should not be used for power/control and should not be the reason to alienate other people either.
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Post by MJonmind on Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:40 am

I agree that in ancient times I've read(possibly some dramatic events in the Bible as well) that there's may have been a tilting of the earth, polar shift, that caused widespread destruction but not annilation. Revelations --who knows. And for those who don't believe in God, there still may be a merging of ideas and thinking. Especially since its all for L.O.V.E. We're all together on this planet. I've always loved that song, Another part of me. It's so mysterious and possibly prophetic. And Jam, too!
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Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:46 am

juiet...well said ... we are all just humble people and I applaude you for your wisedom. You seem like a wonderful person with much insight. Perhaps your friends and yourself are our next generation of believers that can change our world for the better.

Much love to you and yours and above all .......L.O.V.E.

Love Overcomes Virtually Everything.
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:03 am

LOVELYLURKER, your post made me a little teary.
Actually for so many years, since I was very young and upto the present, I've been helping a lot of people of different nationalities, age, faith, and gender. If every single person is aware of problems (simple, silly or grave), it's a start. Watching on the sides will not help, but to be a part of their problems and actually having solutions for their problems would be very great. Each day I pray that I can help people with problems so that hope, faith and love will again be instilled which they have lost along the way somewhere/sometime. I know faith and hope and love are in their hearts and the only way to have them back is by being part of their lives to show them that they are not alone. I just wish I could give more and help as much people so that there will be no more fightings, then gradually peace will be on earth.
And with you LOVELYLURKER, I have opened my heart and myself which I've never done in the net. That's actually what I do each day, and I wish I will always be strong in mind, body, and spirit to help different kinds of people.


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Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:29 am

juliet, you seem to have done more in your life than many people have. I had a wise Uncle who said if you can leave this life having helped just one person than your destiny is fullfilled.

By the sounds of things you have fullfilled your destiny many times over.

I have learned over my many years that I cannot help everyone but If I can help just a few it makes life have meaning for me.

Don't worry Juliet about helping everyone... just think about the one or two that you CAN help and know that that makes a difference,

Smile at someone, help an older person across the street so she is not so afraid to step off a curb, be kind to animals and have a soft heart and your destiny will be fulfilled.

Dont get teary but know you are doing the right thing and keep doing what you are doing. No matter how small it may seem it will touch enough people to make a difference.

Michael Jackson wanted to make a difference .. one person at a time. Perhaps he always thought he was not doing enough but he made a difference in many peoples lives and that is his destiny. His purpose was to make people enjoy music , to enjoy life , to help save our earth, and to realise that one thing at a time can make a difference.

and ....L.o.v.e Love overcomes virtually everything
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:05 am

If sth happens and we weren´t able to stop it before (remember, three years), then we won´t do anything about it at the moment it happens.
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:10 am

LOVELYLURKER, your posts are very well appreciated.
I get teary eyed thinking how many people are in this world with different and so many problems and I know that one of the reasons of my existence is to help them. And because words get around about how/what I can do to help, greedy/selfish people come out and take advantage.

God bless your heart,LOVELYLURKER and may God shower you with His blessings.
May He protect you and your loved ones from all worldly dangers seen and unseen.
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:12 am

GirlInTheMirror1 wrote:If sth happens and we weren´t able to stop it before (remember, three years), then we won´t do anything about it at the moment it happens.

GIRL, can you explain more your question.
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:14 am

juliet wrote:
GirlInTheMirror1 wrote:If sth happens and we weren´t able to stop it before (remember, three years), then we won´t do anything about it at the moment it happens.

GIRL, can you explain more your question.

I don´t have a question, actually. I just mean, if we won´t try and change the world now, and sth should happen to us in 2012, we won´t be able to stop it then either..
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Post by LovelyLurker on Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:05 am

girlIn the Mirror1..... Your right. If something happens what can we do to stop it other than perhaps be aware?

Maybe nothing will happen but knowledge is power. If we have no knowledge we are powereless no?
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Post by juliet on Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:39 am

At least now, people's awareness are tapped into. The mere consciouness of things will avert bad things from happening.

This is how I see it. There is good and there is bad just like dark and light, day and night and so forth. There are some people who close their eyes and say that there is no such thing as evil. Evil would want to control the world God created, he wants to control people, that as more people evil gets, the stronger he gets because evil wants to win over God. But God created us and no matter how much control/manipulation/brainwash evil will do/are doing to men, the goodness in men's hearts will always win at the end.

So. what I'm trying to say, Evil would want the world and mankind to end to have more power and control over God's creation. But Evil forgets that we are God's creation and God watches us, being controlled and manipulated(that's when man's free will of choice comes in), but in spite of all the confusion, manipulation and control, there are people in this world with us who help us understand/realize when we forget how we were born so innocent and pure and full of love.

As I said earlier, man errs-God doesn't, man's laws(whether social, political or theological) change-God doesn't. So in spite of the changes in this world, or dangers in this world, there are people who are destined to aid, protect and support those who are in need, to show us the way when we are put off our path.
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:58 am

I think, apart from the religious point of view, if we (as meaning mankind) go on like this, we´ll surely extinct ourselves on a certain point.

There are people who want to have control over everything: other people, money, resources and even nature. But there are things that can´t be controlled, because the Earth and its nature is a higher force, and I don´t mean that in a religious, but in a scientific way. Earth has its ways to "erase" the hazards for its survival. If we become a hazard, that´s what´s going to happen sooner or later.

We all should remember to be "one", meaning work together instead of against each other, regarding nature and environment, the world we live in, which we should honor and respect; same with the children, who are the future. We need to educate and be educated on how to use the resources we have in a way that we AND the environment "are comfortable" (Smile) with, instead of exploiting everything there is to get even more.

We should start with the small things, you know, being aware of the use of electricity and water supplies, use of cars and so on; we have to start with the small stuff to be able to continue with the bigger issues.

Just my opinion.
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Post by Fight For Troot on Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:16 am

Just to be clear, 2012 the movie is Hollywood. Like Transformers, it's all explosions and action - it will not be representative of what would really happen.

Also, people have to stop saying when Michael says in TII "We've got four years to get it right" he DOES NOT mean 2012. He's simply talking about at the rate we're going, the damage to the planet will be irreversible.
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Post by GirlInTheMirror1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:54 am

Fight For Troot wrote:Just to be clear, 2012 the movie is Hollywood. Like Transformers, it's all explosions and action - it will not be representative of what would really happen.

Also, people have to stop saying when Michael says in TII "We've got four years to get it right" he DOES NOT mean 2012. He's simply talking about at the rate we're going, the damage to the planet will be irreversible.
Apart from 2012 being a movie, I guess people mean the Mayan calendar that predicts the "end of the world" for 2012..
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