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Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?

Post by ForstAMoon on Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:35 pm

Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?
BY HOWARD BREUER

Monday February 07, 2011 04:30 PM EST


Dr. Conrad Murray (left) and Michael Jackson

Houston Chronicle/AP; Globe
FacebookTwitterE-mailWas Michael Jackson's last conscious act to reach for a bottle of propofol – a potentially fatal sedative normally injected in careful amounts in hospital settings – and chug it like soda?

That theory will likely be a question that defense attorneys will ask Los Angeles jurors to ponder at the involuntary manslaughter trial of Dr. Conrad Murray, which is scheduled to begin March 24.
Murray plead not guilty to the felony charge last month.

In a police affidavit it said that Dr. Murray told police Jackson craved propofol to treat his insomnia and that he referred to the drug as his "milk."

According to anesthesiologist Dr. Barry Friedberg, who last month met with one of Murray's defense attorneys to be screened as a possible expert witness, Murray's lawyers will argue that "Jackson could have swallowed propofol" himself. (Monday is the deadline for both the defense and prosecution to present their witness list for the trial.)

Friedberg says there appears to be a small amount of evidence to support the defense's theory. For instance, he says there were traces of the drug in Jackson's digestive system, which could have gotten there from drinking the sedative.

However, he says, it's the doctor's responsibility to create a "safe environment" by carefully monitoring a patient's breathing.
A Question of Safety

"I'm curious as to how "safe" Dr. Friedberg thinks a doctor must be to prevent a patient from injecting himself or drinking a drug when he leaves the room," lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff tells PEOPLE.

During the preliminary hearing, prosecution witness Dr. Richard Ruffalo conceded under cross examination that, upon closer scrutiny of the coroner's toxicology report, it appeared plausible that Jackson "self-ingested" some of the propofol, as opposed to Dr. Murray administering all of the drug to Jackson.

The pop star's father, Joe Jackson, was furious over the suggestion that his son, while preparing for one of the biggest tours of his long career, caused his own death.

"That's bull––," Joe said. "It's not possible that Michael would do that. The whole family knows – and Michael's fans all over the world know – that this is not true. It's a lie. We're outraged about it."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20464371,00.html
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Re: Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?

Post by runfayalife on Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:39 pm

Geezuz!


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Re: Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?

Post by fordtocarr on Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:47 pm

GOSH...here we GO...
Let the show begin.
Now it sounds like they've conceded to...
"During the preliminary hearing, prosecution witness Dr. Richard Ruffalo conceded under cross examination that, upon closer scrutiny of the coroner's toxicology report, it appeared plausible that Jackson "self-ingested" some of the propofol, as opposed to Dr. Murray administering all of the drug to Jackson."
Plausible...as in could've done it...I'd throw up at that suggestion if I didn't know it is a show!! Notice how Joe says, family and fans...that BE US...know it's a lie....
But to the world...we get even crazier for being beLIEvers...
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Re: Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?

Post by runfayalife on Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:08 pm

Okay so was curious so I Googled and found this;

I was just curious to see if the argument had a prayer in court.

Michael Jackson toxicology report released
February 13, 2010, 2:25 pm

This week, the Los Angeles medical examiner’s office released the autopsy report on Michael Jackson. Included in the release are toxicology findings, and a discussion by an anesthesiologist concerning the effects and proper administration of propofol. The cause of death was listed as “acute propofol intoxication”, with the “benzodiazepine effect” contributing. The toxicology tests determined the following:

Propofol: Heart blood – 3.2 mcg/ml; Hospital blood – 4.1 mcg/ml; Femoral blood – 2.6 mcg/ml

Lidocaine: Heart blood - 0.68 mcg/ml; Hospital blood – 0.5 mcg/ml; Femoral blood – 0.34 mcg/ml

Lorazepam: Heart blood – 0.162 mcg/ml

Diazepam and midazolam were present in trivial quantities.

Baselt’s textbook The Disposition of Toxic Drugs and Chemicals in Man (7th edition) mentions that in 5 fatal cases of acute propofol poisoning, postmortem blood propofol levels ranged from 0.5 – 5.3 mcg/ml. Dr. Selma Calmes, the anesthesiology consultant, concluded that “The levels of propofol found on toxicology exam are similar to those found during general anesthesia for major surgery (intra-abdominal) with propofol infusions, after a bolus induction”.

Note that the level of heart blood propofol at autopsy was higher than that found in the femoral blood. This suggests that propofol undergoes the process of postmortem redistribution. In this phenomenon, after death a drug diffuses out of tissues and into the blood pool, producing a result somewhat higher than the actual level at the moment of death. This effect is more marked in blood obtained from central locations (heart, central vessels) compared to blood drawn from peripheral vessels such as the femoral vein. It is interesting to note that in in this case, the propofol level measured on samples of the hospital blood was higher than either postmortem level. This may be because any intravenous fluid administered to Mr. Jackson during resuscitation in the emergency department diluted the concentration of the drug.

Propofol is marketed under the trade name Diprivan (diisopropyl itravenous anesthetic). It is prepared as a white emulsion, leading to its being nicknamed “Milk of Amnesia”. It is very short acting, with an onset of less than one minute and duration of 5-10 minutes. The potential for abuse of proprofol has been appreciated only recently; there are a number of case reports in the literature of medical personnel who died after self-administering the drug. Propofol causes pain on injection and is often given along with lidocaine. The major toxic effect is respiratory depression.

http://www.thepoisonreview.com/2010/02/13/michael-jackson-toxicology-report-released/


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Re: Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?

Post by maria-c on Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:43 pm


copy and paste the comment of a person in People magazine




On Saturday 8th January 2011, @Cotton_Sea said:
Please RT this to all of your followers. This was posted on TMZ's site in the comments.

"A pharmacy of drugs" such BS! This is how the media likes to spin everything.

**So this is what was found at the house:**

Propofol Propofol and Lidocaine are used together. Lidocaine is not medication

Lidocaine: Lidocaine is used topically to relieve itching, burning and pain from skin inflammations, injected as a dental anesthetic or as a local anesthetic for minor surgery. Propofol and Lidocaine are used together. Lidocaine is not medication

Lorazepam: Lorazepam is used for the management of anxiety disorders, the short-term relief of symptoms of anxiety or anxiety associated with depression.

Diazepam Diazepam is used for the management of anxiety disorders or for the short-term relief of symptoms of anxiety.

Temazepam: Temazepam is used to treat insomnia symptoms, such as trouble falling or staying asleep. Temazepam may also be used for other purposes not listed in this medication guide.

Trazodone: Trialodine (Trazodone), an antidepressant -mood elevator, is used to treat depression. Trazodone is a psychoactive compound with sedative and anti-depressant properties. Trazodone may also be used for relief of an anxiety disorder (e.g., sleeplessness, tension) and chronic pain.

Flomax - Flomax is used to improve urination in men with benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlarged prostate). Flomax may also be used for other purposes not listed in this medication guide.

Clonazepam: An anti-anxiety medication
Tizanidine: Tizanidine is used to relax certain muscles of the body. Spasticity Management of spasticity associated with cerebral or spinal injury, alone or in conjunction with other standard therapies

Hydrocodone: Hydrocodone is a narcotic analgesic and antitussive used in concurrence with other drugs to relieve acute pain or cough. Hydrocodone works by acting on the central nervous system and alters the way the brain communicates sensations of pain. It is the most widely prescribed opiate in the U.S. and is most commonly combined with acetaminophen to form drugs such as Vicodin, Lortab and Lorcet. The effects of hydrocodone are similar to those of morphine.

Benoquin: Monobenzone is used to treat the uneven appearance of the skin due to a loss of skin color (vitiligo). It works by permanently removing color from normal skin located around skin with vitiligo. This will help to make the appearance of the skin more even

Propofol and Lidocaine are used together. Lidocaine is not medication it is used in conjunction with Propofol because Propofol burns when it's being injected. So right there you can cross Lidocaine off the list. They're trying to make it sound like it was something separate when it wasn't.

Then there's Lorazepam. The Lorazepam was prescribed on April 28, 2009 and contained 30 pills. On June 25, 2009-two months later- there will still 9 pills remaining. So Michael took 21 pills of this in a two month time span.

Then there's Diazepam. It was issued on June 20, 2009 (the same day Michael was told he was going to lose everything if he backed out of the concerts) One thing Diazepam treats is anxiety. What person wouldn't have anxiety after being treated the way Michael was at the meeting. I think for someone to tell you they are going to take your children away would cause anyone to have anxiety. Anyway...there were 60 pills of Diazepam prescribed on June 20, 2009 and on June 25, 2009 there were 57 remaining. That means he only took three within the span of 5-6 days.

Then there's Temazepam. This was prescribed in December of 2008 and on June 25, 2009 there were still 3 pills left. This was something he had stopped taking a while ago and Temazepam did not show up in the toxicology report.

Then there's Trazodone. This was issued to him in April of 2009. It was a prescription for 60 pills and on June 25 there were still 38 pills left. This was also something he stopped taking quite some time ago. Trazodone did not show up in the toxicology report.

Then there's Flomax. Flomax has nothing to do with any of this. I don't even know why they mentioned it.

Then there's Clonazepam. This was issued in April with 30 pills and on June 25 there were still 8 remaining. Once again, something he was no longer taking. This was not found in his toxicology report either.

Then there's Tizanidine. A prescription for ten pills was issued on June 7, 2009 and on June 25, 2009 there were 8 left. So in the span of more than two weeks, he took two of these pills. Tizanidine was also not found in the toxicology report.

Last but not least there's Hydrocodone and Benoquin. I have no idea why these are even listed. They are not medication. They are creams and lotions that Michael used for his skin.

So, out of all of that BS what they found in Michael was: Propofol, Lorazepam, Diazepam, and Tizanidine. And guess who gave him ALL of that in the early morning of June 25, 2009...Dr. Murray.

If you were to go inside a random person's house and look at the medication they have, I guarantee you that you would find close to the same amount of prescriptions as Michael had. It's clear to see he was not taking this day in and day out. When people have medication that doesn't work or that they don't feel is right for them, they usually stop taking it. Which is EXACTLY what Michael did. My cabinet is full of old prescriptions.

This just makes me crazy! I don't understand why the general public can't see the TRUTH here and what the media is trying to do!”

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/808jng


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Re: Did Michael Jackson Voluntarily Drink a Deadly Sedative?

Post by runfayalife on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:08 pm

If you were to go inside a random person's house and look at the medication they have, I guarantee you that you would find close to the same amount of prescriptions as Michael had. It's clear to see he was not taking this day in and day out. When people have medication that doesn't work or that they don't feel is right for them, they usually stop taking it. Which is EXACTLY what Michael did. My cabinet is full of old prescriptions.

I came to that conclusion along time ago when I read the breakdown on another site.

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Post by suspicious mind on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:03 pm

ugly thought here.
could the coughing and mumbleing sounds be the result of someone forcing this person to drink this?
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Post by xSernityxDreamsx on Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:28 am

On Page 45 of the Autopsy Report.

Not only was Propofol present in the stomach contents so is Lidocaine.

These are 2 different drugs. So they are suggesting that Michael drank both of them or that he mixed up a little Propofol & Lidocaine cocktail and drank that?

Lidocaine is a topical anaesthetic used to numb an area, like an injection site or used at the dentists office etc. It can be mixed with Propofol, to numb the area as the Propofol enters the body.

Wouldn`t Lidocaine have numbed his mouth, throat etc?
Would it be possible to even swallow after the Lidoacine had entered the mouth, tongue area?
Does Lidoacine instantly numb an area that it comes into contact with and what would be the effects on the throat, in regards to swallowing or breathing?
How long do the effects of Lidocaine last?
The reports state that an empty bottle of propofol was found on the floor, suggesting that Michael may have been able to access that but what about the Lidocaine?

And what about the taste of these drugs, we have an natural, automatic gag reflex when something is very unpleasant tasting. Is it even possible to drink this stuff?

Why isn`t the Lidocaine being mentioned in any of these media reports?
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Post by Gema on Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:58 am

Lidocaine is used to numb the reflex in the upper throath as well (when going for a gastroscopic test i.e) but is used in spray form, not in liquid form.

Liquid lidocaine is meant to be inyected.
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