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TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by curls on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:03 am

Sorry, I don't know how to copy this over from TMZ properly. If someone else can do it please delete this pathetic effort!

Dr. Murray's Defense: MJ Was In Failing Health

2/8/2011 12:55 AM PST by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson was in such a weakened state before he died ... it's unfair to blame his death on Propofol ...and we've learned this is precisely what lawyers for Dr. Conrad Murray will argue to a jury.

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Sources familiar with the case tell TMZ ... Dr. Murray's team will argue that at the time of his death, Jackson's body was failing him ... partly because he was "driven over the edge" by AEG to rehearse for his upcoming tour.

We're told Murray's lawyers will call witnesses to testify that Jackson was not showing up for rehearsals -- and when he did show, he was exhibiting "clear signs" of failing health.

The upshot of the defense ... even if jurors believe Dr. Murray administered the fatal dose of Propofol, Jackson was already in failing health.

But as TMZ has already reported ... Dr. Murray's lawyers will argue Jackson himself administered the fatal dose of Propofol to himself when Murray was out of the room.

The trial begins in April.

See also

* Conrad Murray Trial To Be Televised
* Conrad's Ex: He Cared More About CASH Than MJ
* Conrad's Ex Pokes Holes in Murray's MJ Defense


Tags: Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson, Celebrity Justice

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Post by Souza81 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:22 am


No problem. It is not as easy over here to copy articles with links and pictures as is is on the other board. When I copy all the threads from here I'll fix it.


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Post by GINAFELICIA on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:28 am

HE WAS IN POOR HEALTH than how he passed a 3 hours medical examination?


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Post by mdc on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:28 am

It doesn't seem to me that this would help his defense. Why would you give someone in already failing health propofol? It doesn't make any sense. Murray has had a hundred different stories. I wonder if he even remembers which one he's telling from day to day.

On another note, the story right after this one with Halle Berry and her baby daddy arguing over whether or not their child Nahla is "Black or White" made me think of the MJ song. lol Also interesting because you can see in the MJ picture in the "failing health" article his chest is darker where they didn't cover it with makeup.

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Post by Elsa on Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:07 am

Wasn't it Dr Murray's job to determine if Michael was fit to rehearse? Isn't that why he was hired? (humour me) Kenny Ortega said in the Prelim that Dr Murray and others let him know on June 20 that it wasn't his position to let Michael leave the rehearsal on June 19 - Dr Murray said he was fine to have been there.

mdc I agree. If Michael was already weak that's more reason for Dr M not to be giving him powerful sedatives dangerously combined with incompatible medications, without adequate equipment and monitoring. So any arrows aimed at AEG with these arguments are only going to turn and hit Dr Murray. Guess that's the plan.

'it's unfair to blame his death on propofol'. Rolling Eyes True.

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Post by ignisaeternus on Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:53 am

And didn't we just read or hear recently that Murray chided Kenny forcsending MJ home, telling him HE ( Murray) was the doctor and MJ could rehearse.
Is ANYONE but us catching the ongoing discrepancies???

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Re: TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by maria-c on Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:11 pm

aaaaaaahh, Poor health and Michael planed all this? Rolling Eyes Sleep

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Re: TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by maria-c on Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:17 pm

We're told Murray's lawyers will call witnesses to testify that Jackson was not showing up for rehearsals -- and when he did show, he was exhibiting "clear signs" of failing health.

who will call?, Karen? Basketball

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Post by scorpionchik on Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:56 pm

"We're told Murray's lawyers will call witnesses to testify that Jackson was not showing up for rehearsals -- and when he did show, he was exhibiting "clear signs" of failing health."

Or maybe Michael did not plan having concert therefore he would not rehearse properly or coming to rehearsals at all?

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Re: TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by curls on Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:06 pm

maria-c wrote:
We're told Murray's lawyers will call witnesses to testify that Jackson was not showing up for rehearsals -- and when he did show, he was exhibiting "clear signs" of failing health.

who will call?, Karen? Basketball

Sorry folks, but when I read this all I could think about was 'Who you gonna call?' ' Ghostbusters!'

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Post by maria-c on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:34 pm

maria-c wrote:
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We're told Murray's lawyers will call witnesses to testify that Jackson was not showing up for rehearsals -- and when he did show, he was exhibiting "clear signs" of failing health.


who will call?, Karen?



Sorry folks, but when I read this all I could think about was 'Who you gonna call?' ' Ghostbusters!'

lol!

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Re: TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by suspicious mind on Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:03 pm

what about the dancers? thing is so far everyone else connected with tii has said he was in good shape. of course they weren't risking going to jail then either.


something else that stands out for me is when kenny talks about michael saying things about not sleeping. it has the feel of this is really not that bad a thing for michael , he is flying high on the moment . that it is part of his creative process not something to be medicated away. does it come across to anyone else that way?

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Re: TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by 2good2btrue on Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:39 pm

I don't buy this story (coverup) at all.

In my opinion, it will be Dr Arnie Klein that will be charged, not Dr Murray !!

But all that will come to light during the trial.

Arnie was the problem.! It was first reported that Michael would leave Kleins office, "spaced out" and "high" on demerol..That is why AEG demanded MJ stop seeing him, and only be managed by Murray.

I believe there is more to this coverup, and it will all come out very soon.....during the trial.

Dont be surprised when Klein and Debbie Rowe are called to the stand, .

Even Debbie Rowe dobbed on Klein to the FBI, and stated that it was him who first had MJ hooked on demerol and propofol.

That's why TMZ interviewed him. geek geek geek sunny sunny

This is the link to the original article, and worth a look at:

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1497692.php/Debbie-Rowe-finks-on-Dr-Arnie-Klein


Michael's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, is being investigated for manslaughter over the singer's death, which is now being treated as homicide.

The Los Angeles County Coroner's office is currently sorting through discrepancies in Murray's story of events leading up to the death.

His statement says he administered Propofol to Michael at 10.40am and left 10 minutes later to use the bathroom. He claims he discovered an unconscious Michael two minutes later.

However, Murray did not ask security to call emergency services until 12.21pm, after he had reportedly telephoned Klein for advice, called a lawyer and made one other mystery call.Because of an inconsistency in the late star's body temperature, it is believed he could have died even earlier.


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Re: TMZ - Dr Murray's Defense: MJ was in failing health

Post by LovelyLurker on Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:11 am

Are we suprised???? This is DEFENSE. This is all he has for a defense. This is not the worst to come for the trial and all that.

There will be much more crap coming down the pipeline as Murray needs a defense.

As far as I am concerned there is no defense against incompetance but Lawyers are Lawyers and if they want to be paid to defend Murray they need to grasp at some very pathetic straws.

Be prepared for much more crap like " he injected himself" etc. as this it what defense is.

Paid Lawyers need to dig deep for crap that will make them look like they are making thier mioney for the people who hired them........ and by the way........how does Murray hire Lawyers with no money and no practise........what I want to know is WHO is paying this man;s Lawyers..... just my opinion........Ohhhhh where did the emotocons go ????? oh the emotocons show up in edit sessions scratch

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