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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:01 pm

I SAW THIS THREAD OVER AT MJHD ALL CREDIT GOES TO LAURENMCN817 I REALLY HOPE SHE DOESN'T MIND BUT I REALLY WANTED TO POST IT OVER HERE

XOXO,
-TINSLEY

Post edited 4:19 am – August 16, 2009 by laurenmcn817

hey
first of all I would just like to say that this really isn´t my post, my friend kari has registered for MJHD but she did get a password link sent to her email and she can´t register again because as she has already registered with MJHD but just hasn´t got the password link so she can´t sign in to make the thread herself, so she has asked me to post this because she would like to share this with you all.
kari came across this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/wh…..blower1100 and it´s called michael jackson´s suicde tape leaked and the guy in the video says that he was in mike´s inner circle and he heard mike and some close associates speaking about mj faking his death. I don´t no if i should believe him or he´s just another JCC but he doesn´t really say much apart from hearing them disscussing plans.
kari then emailed this guy wanting to find out more and she asked him alot of questions etc. kari sent me the email´s between herself and the guy so i could post them here.


( i am writng guy in ther inner circle in red and kari in blue so you don´t get confused with who´s email´s who´s )
guy in inner circle: Thankyou for writing.
What I wrote in my video is true up to a point. I genuinely worked for Michael although I cannot give specific details for obvious reasons (my safety for one). I did witness Michael and close associates discussing plans regarding him faking his death so that he could disappear. These plans included financial arrangements, his family, and how the media could be fooled.

I cannot, hand on heart, confirm that he definately carried out his plans. But his alleged death occurred, exactly on cue, to the month, as discussed. Coincidence?
The current misdirection being provided by the drugs/doctor/murder situation is genius. I suspect that it will fizzle out before long, unless the doctor involved has been paid off to play scapegoat. Either way it is throwing everyone off scent. There has been, since the day of his 'death', many strange rumours and reports, as discussed in these comments.
The rest I leave up to you




kari:
I can respect that you cannot say what you did for him and who you are, but what if word gets around that there was a posting made on youtube? (yours)? How did he plan to deal with all of this if people that knew him & heard his plans leaked it to the press? Did he just figure that the press would ignore that kind of attention that he faked his own death? honestly seems like they would be all over that idea. May I just ask you if he knew that you overheard him talking about it? Anyways, why are you worried about your safety? MJ wouldn't have anyone hurt you would he? Was he your friend? Or was he more your boss than a friend? I am sorry I keep prying, and have so many questions. I know that most of the ones I asked you yesterday were probably ones you couldn't or wouldn't answer. I don't want to know what you did when you worked for him. I don't want to know who you are. but I can't believe that you worked for him and knew him! hope you are enjoying your weekend!
guy in inner circle: Michael would never hurt me. But the staff employed to protect him would have no problem silencing me without Michaels knowledge.
All I can say is that I was privvy to conversations that only a handfull of very close staff members were involved in.
Rumours of this hoax were bound to leak, and were an integral part of its success. The bigger the furore, the better that the media would be fooled into looking in the wrong direction.
Its not over yet.
Watch the news and read between the lines.

W.


kari: it will be interesting to see how it all unfolds. Just wondering, why did you name your post MJ suicide tape? Also, I noticed that you opened an acct with youtube one day after his “passing”. Did you make your post the day after?


she got one final email from this person saying:

I knew that the title would attract more interest. And I had never had an account before Michael's 'death'.



like i said before i don´t no if I should believe this guy or not but it sure is interesting. please don´t attack me if you don´t believe this i´m just simply helping out a friend who couldn´t post this herself lol
thank-you




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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:12 pm

Is this for Real ? I am very interested in this already - if you do get more emails from this Dude ... let me know .. I want in on this and I will my trap shut to know the 411 on this mess for real though.
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Post by Lorrie on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:16 pm

Thanks, Peterpanswendy. I just finished reading that post over at MJHD, and it's very, very interesting and intriguing. I haven't decided yet how believable I think it is, though.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:21 pm

I really hope that this is legit.
I also wish we could find JCC.

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Post by Rach on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:26 pm

Hmmm interesting stuff.

I hope it is true but as you say anyone can pretend to be anyone or say anything over the internet.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:36 pm

that is the truth rachel. I just e-mailed him, I'm digging for a little more information. Is there anything that you all want me to ask him?

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:42 pm

...maybe if Michael had plans to come back... Crying or Very sad

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Post by jpresley on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:47 pm

I know there are crackpots (i.e. the followers emails), but there are also a lot of legitimate theories that could prove all too true. One of my biggest concerns right now is the FB postings from his makeup artist/friend Karen. I have to believe that if we are indeed on the right path and there is in fact a hoax playing out that she is in on it in some fashion. Her postings are heart-wrenching and believable re his drug use and the people aiding/abetting such drug use. However! One of the things I find odd is that she has allowed one of the fan follower chicks (see email reference above) to friend her and see her postings. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind those emails about MJ being skeletal are fake. Going with that belief, it almost seems like she allowed that to add credence to her claims. Does that make sense?

I know I'm rambling here, but it's this kind of stuff that makes me continue to believe that Michael is out there somewhere. Too many damn inconsistencies. scratch
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Post by Lorrie on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:55 pm

jpresley wrote:I know I'm rambling here, but it's this kind of stuff that makes me continue to believe that Michael is out there somewhere. Too many damn inconsistencies. scratch

I don't consider your comments rambling, jpresley. Your points are legitimate and spot-on. I agree with most of them.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:59 pm

OH MY GOD.

Why are someone doing this if it aint true? Please, dont let him be some kinda Jerk.

Why did he want to post this on youtube, people all over the world can see this.

I felt sieck AGAIN when I was reading this, I really cant handle if someone is just playing with us. My body is trying to coap, but its hard, when someone suddenly, come up with some so called "evidence" To Michael beeing alive, when I dont know for sure, if this guy is for real or not.

I dont know what to say anymore. I do believe in my heart that Mike is alive, but i still dont know for sure. I need closure.

Ohh, how I hope this guy is for real

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:18 pm

I know there are some weirdos out there who could definitely try to mess with our heads (trust me, I've experienced one personally) HOWEVER, why go so indepth, if someone wants to mess with us I think they'd make posts more like michaelcadaver's posts over on MJHD (any of you remember him?) they'd be annoying and stupid. because usually someone who wants to f*ck with a bunch of 'conspiracy theorists' are probably teenagers and/or think that we're completely nutty. so why, if at all, reply to emails to one of the alleged 'conspiracy theorists' to just join in with all of the whoopla? Makes no sense. I think perhaps this 'guy in the inner circle' might know something, indeed.

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Post by jpresley on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:21 pm

missdahmer wrote:I know there are some weirdos out there who could definitely try to mess with our heads (trust me, I've experienced one personally) HOWEVER, why go so indepth, if someone wants to mess with us I think they'd make posts more like michaelcadaver's posts over on MJHD (any of you remember him?) they'd be annoying and stupid. because usually someone who wants to f*ck with a bunch of 'conspiracy theorists' are probably teenagers and/or think that we're completely nutty. so why, if at all, reply to emails to one of the alleged 'conspiracy theorists' to just join in with all of the whoopla? Makes no sense. I think perhaps this 'guy in the inner circle' might know something, indeed.

Yes, I remember michaelcadaver, ick. I agree with your point and think this is something we should cautiously pursue.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:25 pm

Was he ever banned from over there? I know a few people requested he be banned.

But yes, we should definitely keep an eye out on this 'inner circle' guy, he seems almost trustworthy.

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Post by Smelly on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:26 pm

OMG!!! I soooooooooooooo hope this is true!!
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:28 pm

I did witness Michael and close associates discussing plans regarding him faking his death so that he could disappear.


but then does that mean he basically won't be having a comeback? I mean, granted this person is telling the truth and what not.

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:30 pm

yeah you can kinda point out who is just being a jerk and an asshole and who is really making somewhat of a legitimate claim. I just kinda get a vibe from him that maybe, just maybe he isn't lying...idk

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Post by InnerDemon on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:34 pm

Did you notice? The video was uploaded on 26.6. So either he was very fast on thinking about it as a hoax and coming up with that story to fool people, or he's legit.
But when he is indeed legit.. why would he risk his life, as he says, just to inform some fans? I know I wouldn't...
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Post by ballongiraf on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:39 pm

He could be a jerk with too much time on his hands, for sure. However, i do think it's kinda interesting how many people have signed up on MJHD to tell stories about how MJ is alive and this is a hoax. You'd think people would sign up to tell us that he's indeed dead.
That being said, i dont see how this story differs from all the media stories told by "sources" - this story is also "just" told by a source claiming to know something. I know he said he couldnt reveal himself, but i think his claims would be far more legit if we had a last name, title or something like that.......
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Post by Rach on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:42 pm

I hope my comment about him being "anyone" didn't offend. I just wanted to point out that it is so easy on the internet to pretend to be someone you aren't and this shows in the cases of grooming young children. The internet can be a dangerous place at times.

However I hope it is true. I think I have my sceptical head on today so for the moment I am going to keep an open mind and not say one way or another how I feel about this until we maybe have more to go on.
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:44 pm

michaelcadaver ???!!! - I couldn't Stand Him at All ... and This guy seems legit to me ... I believe he knows something .. we need to take a chance with him , Just Like JCC ... I hope we won't denied him .... MJHD lost JCC and We gain something from him ... and This Guy could be Second JCC for us ... Don't Blow it !!!!
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:52 pm

plus if he doesn't want to risk his life, he isn't going to give out his last name or title.

even though him stating when he left is kinda incriminating.

but i agree with earthangel90, I think we should take a chance.

and I have to find a way to contact jcc

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Post by ballongiraf on Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:35 pm

im not saying he should give out his last name or title. As i said i understood why he hasnt - i was just trying to say that more people probably would believe him if they had a lastname and(or title).
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:40 pm

interesting im hoping this is legit and not someone messing with peoples heads, im skeptical on this one
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Post by silvy on Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:06 am

" Internet is the place without no name.."
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Post by PinkLizard on Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:49 am

Maybe he is JCC, just finding another way to contact us. Especially if it's true that safety is an issue. JCC and this emailer both talk about safety. He writes well and certainly doesn't seem like a teenager messing with us (like MissDahmer says the ones that mess with us are usually annoying and a bit stupid!) I really hope he's genuine.
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Post by pumpkin on Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:23 am

If this was planned a year ago why would Michael agree to do the concerts? it doesn't add up, surely he would have just planned to disappear quietly, he could have disappeared or 'died' when he was in Bahrain if he had wanted, if it's a hoax I don't think it was planned that long ago, but maybe only after the concerts were planned and he realised he couldn't do 50 and needed out? Sorry to say but I think this guy is just messing with people's heads unfortunately.
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Post by Human_nature on Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:31 am

pumpkin wrote:If this was planned a year ago why would Michael agree to do the concerts? it doesn't add up, surely he would have just planned to disappear quietly, he could have disappeared or 'died' when he was in Bahrain if he had wanted, if it's a hoax I don't think it was planned that long ago, but maybe only after the concerts were planned and he realised he couldn't do 50 and needed out? Sorry to say but I think this guy is just messing with people's heads unfortunately.

Sorry but I disagree with you here. If he planned a hoax like this, he needed YEARS. And reasons too.

I really thought he planned something since 2002.
And I just wonder if he succeeded or..not...
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Post by pumpkin on Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:33 am

I don't mind people disagreeing = it'd be a sad world if we all agreed, don't get me wrong I want Michael to be alive I just think this guy is not for real.
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Post by Human_nature on Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:36 am

I know Pumpkin Smile
I just think you can't planned something that big in a week.
Need to check alot of details and very good reasons too Wink

Maybe this guy is not real, I don't know, but ..many years to planned his death don't sound weird to me Wink

My opinion, and I respect your opinion too Smile
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