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Post by Souza81 Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:47 pm

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Post by EarthAngel90 Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:05 pm

From what I am seeing - yeah it's a fake ... I read it from top 2 bottom ...
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Post by SmoothCriminal Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:07 pm

I dont know if its fake cause i dont know nothing about wills, does anyone know about them?
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Post by Lorrie Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:12 pm

Is Michael's will a fake? Maybe. Maybe not. Just like everything else surrounding his "death."

However, for once, jewell and I are on the same page. If you've never worked in the American legal system, as I have for years (and apparently her, too), you might find the name discrepancies for Michael's two sons extremely suspicious.

Stuff like that happens, though, and fairly frequently, too. I noticed it the first time I saw the official documents way back whenever, and I don't read too much into it.
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Post by carpenoctem Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:20 pm

Unfortunately I didn't get to watch TMZ last night. When I came back on here somebody(i really can't remember who,sorry) mentioned that Harvey said that Michael signed his will in 2009. I think Rachel commented on that one.
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Post by Souza81 Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:24 pm

you need to look at the comment in the thread, not only the will!!
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Post by Souza81 Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:25 pm

carpenoctem wrote:Unfortunately I didn't get to watch TMZ last night. When I came back on here somebody(i really can't remember who,sorry) mentioned that Harvey said that Michael signed his will in 2009. I think Rachel commented on that one.

Yes, I send a tweed to him about that, BIG OOPS
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Post by Lorrie Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:25 pm

carpenoctem wrote:Unfortunately I didn't get to watch TMZ last night. When I came back on here somebody(i really can't remember who,sorry) mentioned that Harvey said that Michael signed his will in 2009. I think Rachel commented on that one.

I didn't hear/see that yesterday. Maybe Rachel can clarify when she notices this thread.

The will currently on file with the court was signed in Los Angeles on July 7, 2002.
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Post by Lorrie Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:27 pm

Souza81 wrote:you need to look at the comment in the thread, not only the will!!

Who are you addressing your comment to? If me, I've read the entire thread at MJHD, comments and all.
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Post by SeeingClues Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:31 pm

I think if it is "discovered" that it is not the most recent, then it takes this will out of probate right? Then MJ wouldn't be in legal trouble if he was still alive? Didn't they say he updated it every 5 years...which would mean there would be a later one from 2007???
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Post by Lorrie Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:35 pm

SeeingClues wrote:Didn't they say he updated it every 5 years...which would mean there would be a later one from 2007???

Yep, people did say he updated his will every 5 years. And the explanation offered for why there supposedly is no 2007 will is because there hadn't been any major changes in Michael's life to necessitate changing his previous will from 2002. It's assumed he changed the 2002 will to reflect the birth of Blanket.
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Post by Rach Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:53 pm

Sorry guys but it wasn't me who said that!!!

I am boycotting TMZ because it's trash so I didn't watch it.
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Post by carpenoctem Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:09 pm

@ Rachel

I'm sorry, i didn't mean to say that you started this thread.I only like kinda flew over the posts and i saw your reply to souza.

I'm starting to confuse people here i guess lol! I've been up 41hrs straight now and just can't find sleep . So sorry if for misunderstanding
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Post by Rach Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:11 pm

carpenoctem wrote:@ Rachel

I'm sorry, i didn't mean to say that you started this thread.I only like kinda flew over the posts and i saw your reply to souza.

I'm starting to confuse people here i guess lol! I've been up 41hrs straight now and just can't find sleep . So sorry if for misunderstanding

No need to apologise Chick! I wish I would have spotted it and mentioned it because it's a good find!
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Post by Souza81 Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:11 pm

Rachel wrote:Sorry guys but it wasn't me who said that!!!

I am boycotting TMZ because it's trash so I didn't watch it.

Trash yes, but you're missing out on the clues and oopses!
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Post by Rach Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:16 pm

Souza81 wrote:

Trash yes, but you're missing out on the clues and oopses!

I'm sure someone will catch me up Razz
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Post by Human_nature Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:13 am

I don't know. But about names (children) it's strange. I know Michael can make mistakes, but I'm not sure he can make mistakes about his children's names.
I never really believed the 2002 will...I don't know, since they released the will, I always thought it was made a long time ago (7 yrs) and his life changed alot after 2005 ( trials and all). It's why I think it was NOT his last will.

But it's my opinion, I can be totally wrong...


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Post by bec Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:17 am

Mistakes on the kids names on legal documents? Not on your life.
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Post by SmoothCriminal Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:23 am

I agree he wouldnt make a mistake like that
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Post by Human_nature Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:24 am

It's what I think bec, I agree.
I can make mistakes in my life, like everybody, but one thing sure I'll NEVER make mistakes about my kids names on my will. They are MORE than my life...
Nothing is logic about MJ death so far .....
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Post by Lorrie Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:28 am

SmoothCriminal wrote:I agree he wouldnt make a mistake like that

Michael might not make a mistake like that. But he's also not the person who typed up the legal document. He just signed it.

I've seen several versions of all three children's names, so I don't know which ones are correct. However, such things do happen on legal documents, and they're often not a big deal. It's simple enough to determine which child is which and that all three are Michael's children.
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Post by SmoothCriminal Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:34 am

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SmoothCriminal wrote:I agree he wouldnt make a mistake like that

Michael might not make a mistake like that. But he's also not the person who typed up the legal document. He just signed it.

I've seen several versions of all three children's names, so I don't know which ones are correct. However, such things do happen on legal documents, and they're often not a big deal. It's simple enough to determine which child is which and that all three are Michael's children.

Yah thats true hes not the one that types them up so its not his fault
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Post by phoenix Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:58 am

cant imagine Michael making mistakes when it comes to the names of his children....looks fake to me
I thought Jewell is someone who knows how law works but she is talking huge bs..IMO at least
and TMZ is as funny as usual
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Post by Human_nature Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:04 am

Lorrie wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:I agree he wouldnt make a mistake like that

Michael might not make a mistake like that. But he's also not the person who typed up the legal document. He just signed it.

I've seen several versions of all three children's names, so I don't know which ones are correct. However, such things do happen on legal documents, and they're often not a big deal. It's simple enough to determine which child is which and that all three are Michael's children.

He didn't typed the will I know, but I'm sure he READ before signing his will. It's something very important.
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Post by bec Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:08 pm

Lorrie wrote:
SmoothCriminal wrote:I agree he wouldnt make a mistake like that

Michael might not make a mistake like that. But he's also not the person who typed up the legal document. He just signed it.

I've seen several versions of all three children's names, so I don't know which ones are correct. However, such things do happen on legal documents, and they're often not a big deal. It's simple enough to determine which child is which and that all three are Michael's children.

Not on your life. This is MICHAEL JACKSON's kids you're talking about here....

Once you go outside the bounds of logic and common sense you start to lose the path.
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Post by PepaBCN Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:38 am

Could it be a fake only the doc we see/read? I mean, it's possible the real one filed on court won't be this one we read...
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Post by Rach Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:29 am

I know this an old thread guys but I am doing some research as part of a new theory and need some help Smile

One page 1 someone states that TMZ said a will was signed in 2009. Does anyone recall this at all?!

Thanks Smile
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Post by DreamsComeTrue Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:45 am

Rach wrote:I know this an old thread guys but I am doing some research as part of a new theory and need some help Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_smile

One page 1 someone states that TMZ said a will was signed in 2009. Does anyone recall this at all?!

Thanks Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_smile

I heard once that another will appeared after the 2002 will...But I don't remeber where I read that...I think in a non-english newspaper...who took the news from an english tabloid!

But I'm sure I heared about that...I actually expected to see what was in the new will, but after that I no longer heared anything and I forget about it...

I hope this helps...I'll try to find the page! Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_cyclops
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Post by Rach Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:50 am

DreamsComeTrue wrote:I heard once that another will appeared after the 2002 will...But I don't remeber where I read that...I think in a non-english newspaper...who took the news from an english tabloid!

But I'm sure I heared about that...I actually expected to see what was in the new will, but after that I no longer heared anything and I forget about it...

I hope this helps...I'll try to find the page! Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_cyclops

Sweetie if you could have a look for me that would be amazing!

Thanks so much Smile *hugs and kisses!*
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Post by DreamsComeTrue Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:37 am

Rach wrote:
DreamsComeTrue wrote:I heard once that another will appeared after the 2002 will...But I don't remeber where I read that...I think in a non-english newspaper...who took the news from an english tabloid!

But I'm sure I heared about that...I actually expected to see what was in the new will, but after that I no longer heared anything and I forget about it...

I hope this helps...I'll try to find the page! Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_cyclops

Sweetie if you could have a look for me that would be amazing!

Thanks so much Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_smile *hugs and kisses!*

I can't find it right now...but I promise as soon as I'll find the page I'll send you a PM!
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Post by IndonesianGirl Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:52 am

hmmm ..
im little bit confuse about Prince name ..
as long as i can remember .. michael said once at LWMJ ..
that Prince name is Prince Michael Jackson ..
hmmm Question
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Post by Rach Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:57 am

IndonesianGirl wrote:hmmm ..
im little bit confuse about Prince name ..
as long as i can remember .. michael said once at LWMJ ..
that Prince name is Prince Michael Jackson ..
hmmm Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_question

I'm working along the lines that the 2002 will is a fake but as far as I am aware, Prince's name is Michael Joseph Jackson Jr and Prince is a nickname given after Michael's Grandad but someone correct me if I am wrong!
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Post by IndonesianGirl Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:32 am

Rach wrote:
IndonesianGirl wrote:hmmm ..
im little bit confuse about Prince name ..
as long as i can remember .. michael said once at LWMJ ..
that Prince name is Prince Michael Jackson ..
hmmm Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_question

I'm working along the lines that the 2002 will is a fake but as far as I am aware, Prince's name is Michael Joseph Jackson Jr and Prince is a nickname given after Michael's Grandad but someone correct me if I am wrong!

ya, i think so ...
but honestly im surprised about Prince's name ...
we can see Prince's name at the will is Prince Michael Jackson I , and michael said it's Prince Michael Jackson at LWMJ ,
and the BC said it's Michael Joseph Jackson Jr .
im just wondering .... what truth hidding behind this name ... scratch scratch
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Post by IndonesianGirl Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:33 am

Rach wrote:
IndonesianGirl wrote:hmmm ..
im little bit confuse about Prince name ..
as long as i can remember .. michael said once at LWMJ ..
that Prince name is Prince Michael Jackson ..
hmmm Is MJ's last will a fake? Icon_question

I'm working along the lines that the 2002 will is a fake but as far as I am aware, Prince's name is Michael Joseph Jackson Jr and Prince is a nickname given after Michael's Grandad but someone correct me if I am wrong!

ya, i think so ...
but honestly im surprised about Prince's name ...
we can see Prince's name at the will is Prince Michael Jackson I , and michael said it's Prince Michael Jackson at LWMJ ,
and the BC said it's Michael Joseph Jackson Jr .
im just wondering .... what truth hidding behind this name ... scratch scratch
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