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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:44 am

I just saw it last night!! Im trying to find it again...did you guys see this yet?
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Post by zembla Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:12 am

"The photo - taken by a family insider the day after Jacko died at his rented mansion in North Carolwood Drive, Los Angeles - has been published in the printed edition of the News of the World. It shows the aftermath of the frantic struggle to revive him. "

Source: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/431514/Michael-Jacksons-deathbed-photo.html
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:14 am

zembla wrote:"The photo - taken by a family insider the day after Jacko died at his rented mansion in North Carolwood Drive, Los Angeles - has been published in the printed edition of the News of the World. It shows the aftermath of the frantic struggle to revive him. "

Source: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/431514/Michael-Jacksons-deathbed-photo.html


Thank you!!!
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:15 am

Oddly, i think its been removed! It just shows a pic of MJ with sunglasses on.
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Post by zembla Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:18 am

On a wheeled trolley to the left of the photo (which we are not publishing online but which is available in our printed edition) is more medical equipment.
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:21 am

zembla wrote:On a wheeled trolley to the left of the photo (which we are not publishing online but which is available in our printed edition) is more medical equipment.


Sorry, I dont see the bed picture or medical equip.
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Post by zembla Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:23 am

Hey Jacksonologist, there is no online pic available. It was published in the printed edition only. Odd that TMZ didn't have the scoop here. Wink
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:24 am

Oh I see now!! DUH!

Yes, I went to TMZ looing for it and nothing.
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Post by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:42 am

The Photo is not there for some reason explained ....
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Post by summer+sc3nt Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:48 am

affraid That's weird... Now you see it now you don't. Now I wonder why they wanna do that! Suspect
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Post by bibi Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:48 pm

yes, the photo is still online..somebody posted it on the MJHD forum and the link still works..here it is:
http://intmensorg.info/images/mjdb.jpg
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Post by Neala Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:56 pm

I PM'd this message to someone in MJHD last night before it was shut down...I've had a habit of saving posts, lol. Anyway, these are the things that I felt are strange about the deathbed scene...

1. When a person is recieving CPR, isn't their body supposed to be flat, with the head slightly tilted back? Michael was not only on a bed, but his head had a pillow under it? That shows another fault in the applied CPR.

2. For Michael to have been given CPR, and the doctor to have been working on him, all of the commotion and movement going on...why is it that the side of the bed that Michael was laying on seems rather neat and undisturbed? His side of the bed was still made...comforter, etc. still tucked in! I'd think that after so much commotion, all of the covers would be a mess, possibly hanging off the bed, or totally off of it. It makes no sense that the only side of the bed that's a complete mess is the opposite side of the bed that Michael was on.

3. On the side of the bed Michael was on...the prayer beads and toothpaste was way too neatly placed/arranged. Why are they even on the bed? With all of the commotion, I'd figure that one, or both items would have been knocked off the bed rather than be so neatly placed.

4. Why is the incontinence pad in a position that seems where Michael's lower torso wouldn't have been? If it was underneath his rear end, why is it still on the bed? If he was picked up off of the bed and put onto a stretcher, that pad shouldn't look so neat, and should probably have been dropped on the floor or something because when picking a full grown, adult person up, they usually pick the person up near the shoulders or back, and in the back of the knees. It seems like that pad should have been more disturbed or on the floor, simply by getting caught in the process by a hand, etc. while handling Michael.

5. Michael was asleep for a while, right? Since the previous evening? And it shows that he had drank half of a bottle of some kind of orange drink? When did he drink it? Is the drink new or old (obviously old IF he was unconscious)...so, in all of those hours of sleeping, Michael never wet the bed/incontinence pad? He was UNCONSCIOUS with a supposedly strong anesthesia in him...yet he was still able to control his bladder? Even if he had been able to control his bladder until a point, when people die, don't they sometimes release the contents of their bladder/bowels? While he was being worked on (Dr. reviving him), shouldn't that have helped to cause some kind of urine loss? The pad is unused...thank God, because that wouldn't be fair to him to show that picture then.

6. Why was the air pump on the floor at the foot of the bed? I understand that they probably stopped using that one when the emergency crew arrived, but if they kept up the CPR, etc. until they arrived, the doctor would have been working on Michael's upper torso, not his feet. Then, when it was time to leave, they would have probably just thrown it anywhere on the bed, such as the empty upper side next to Michael.

7. For everything that was going on to help revive Michael...the air pump, pressing on his chest, etc...like I said, Michael's side of the bed is very undesturbed despite a 120 pound person being worked on in urgency there. Just a slight, neat dent on the bed and pillow?

8. Why is there NO evidence of an IV drip or IV stand in Michael's room, which he was hooked up to? Why isn't there a machine or anything in the room that would have monitored Michael's heartrate while on the anesthesia? I saw in a video, the heartrate is monitored VERY closely, and that the heart can stop for up to 30 seconds. Michael wasn't monitored? Why were NO needles found in the room (didn't we hear about needle marks on Michael's body)? Why aren't there any drugs or empty drug bottles in the room? Why isn't there much equipment in the room?
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Post by DawneVee Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:50 pm

Wanna know something that made me LMAO??? Look at that picture...look at the bed. It's being supported by 2 twin mattresses!!!! LMAO... OMG this is too funny!
Yeah like MJ couldn't dish out the cash for a box spring for his bed!

Laughing
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:04 pm

There is another funny part.

The toothpaste LOL.

What the hell were they doing with that. Well if that is how the Doc performed CPR no wonder it didnt work

What bugs me the most is. Why were it even there? I mean, it was not smashed at all, wouldent it have been if they were trying to safe Michael??

I think so.

Mabye this is a wild guess. But i think it could be a clue from Michael? Do i sound like a nut? lol!

I dosent add up.

Do they really think that we would fall for that one.

Hmmm
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Post by yaya Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:32 pm

LOL. i find it interesting that even the media is questioning the validity of the picture, if it was staged or not. that's probably the smartest thing they've ever done.
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Post by aamj07 Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:47 pm

dawnevee, I didn't notice that when I looked at the photo! i call bullsh*t! lol!
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Post by endlessfire Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:56 pm

everything looks 'placed'. why was there a cd on the bed? was this Michael's bed or the doctor's? i forget what the story is this week!
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Post by EarthAngel90 Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:59 am

Bravo , Michael ... I give you a standing ovation and a dozen of red roses .... you fool me once but I caught on the second time Wink.

What is up with Twin Matresses? I know Michael can afford the best bed for him .. Most expensive and best quality one there is .... lol!
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Post by Give.In.To.Me Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:14 am

YA RIGHT!!! Do they expect us to believe this is a picture of a bedroom in a $100,000 a month mansion in Los Angelos. Looks like a room from the Super8 motel to me.

Another thing..who's bedroom are they claiming this to be? If they say it's MJs it's false..the bedroom they showed on ET(footage from a few years back) has windows on either side of the bed.
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Post by PinkLizard Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:43 am

What about the phone? Weren't we led to believe that the Dr couldn't call 911 because there wasn't a phone? It's sitting right there!
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Post by ballongiraf Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:53 am

^ I thought he claimed that the phones were disconnected?

That being said, how many employees and bodyguards were there at there?! There were bodyguards enough to fill 2 escalades, for crying out loud!! All Murray would've had to do was yell "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELPPPP"

When was this pic taken?
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:47 am

If Im not mistaken when you have a king size bed you always have 2 small box springs underneath. I dont hink they sell king size box springs.......I could be wrong though. I have a king mattress and I was told king boxe springs arent made.

The toothpaste is becuae MJ had an obsession supoosedly with oral hygeine. Why its on the bed...not sure.
Marcia Clark said last night that the pic looks fake and she said she has seen photos before of a "deathbed" and they looked NOTHING like this. She said the room would be in more of a disarrayed state because of all the commotion in trying to save someones life. The water bottles wouldve been on the floor etc. She said the room looks staged and things are too neat.
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Post by jpresley Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:46 am

Well, I think the general consensus here (and elsewhere) is the picture is completely staged.

Jacksonologist, I'm love the pout! I've got to get a signature goin too!
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Post by DawneVee Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:52 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:If Im not mistaken when you have a king size bed you always have 2 small box springs underneath. I dont hink they sell king size box springs.......I could be wrong though. I have a king mattress and I was told king boxe springs arent made.

The toothpaste is becuae MJ had an obsession supoosedly with oral hygeine. Why its on the bed...not sure.
Marcia Clark said last night that the pic looks fake and she said she has seen photos before of a "deathbed" and they looked NOTHING like this. She said the room would be in more of a disarrayed state because of all the commotion in trying to save someones life. The water bottles wouldve been on the floor etc. She said the room looks staged and things are too neat.

Take a close look at that bed...it is definitely NOT a king size. In a king size bed you can easily sleep 3 people in a bed. The bed in that photo can sleep 2. My husband and I have a queen size and our bed is bigger than the one in the picture.

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Post by DawneVee Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:54 am

jpresley wrote:Well, I think the general consensus here (and elsewhere) is the picture is completely staged.

Jacksonologist, I'm love the pout! I've got to get a signature goin too!

Agreed. I also wonder why no other news source has bothered to report this. Oh wait...maybe because it's FAKE! tongue
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Post by THE JACKSONOLOGIST Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:09 am

Everyone is saying its staged. I love the pic of the phone on the nightstand. Murray said there wasnt one in the room.

Whatever. (Talk to the hand)
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Post by mjfan Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:05 am

Okay does ANYONE here really believe MJ was wetting the bed? What was THAT all about. I swear. People are so lame.
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Post by sunnyscrapper Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:12 am

THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:The toothpaste is becuae MJ had an obsession supoosedly with oral hygeine. Why its on the bed...not sure.
Marcia Clark said last night that the pic looks fake and she said she has seen photos before of a "deathbed" and they looked NOTHING like this. She said the room would be in more of a disarrayed state because of all the commotion in trying to save someones life. The water bottles wouldve been on the floor etc. She said the room looks staged and things are too neat.

I had some theories about the staged scene on MJHD. I tried to explain everything odd in that picture with reference to Michael's hero PT Barnum. The toothpaste has a place as does the doll, beads, brand of water, orange juice etc. This was definitely a staged picture but the question is was this Michael giving us some clues or a greedy tabloid journalist.
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Post by Heidi Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:23 am

Yes.... and WHY should a haert-doc need to use a CPR instruktions..... ???
That pix is SO FAKE.... !! Laughing
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Post by sunnyscrapper Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:46 am

Heidi wrote:Yes.... and WHY should a haert-doc need to use a CPR instruktions..... ???
That pix is SO FAKE.... !! Laughing

Yes, I agree. I had a theory on that too on MJHD forum. Dr Murray is supposed to incompetent. The instructions lying next to the mask indicate this. He is PT Barnums example of a 'humbug' doctor - a failed actor who became a drug peddlar/quack doctor. If you believe Michael is leaving us clues then Dr Murray is playing his part of a useless doctor in the 'play'.
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Post by yaya Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:08 am

mjfan wrote:Okay does ANYONE here really believe MJ was wetting the bed? What was THAT all about. I swear. People are so lame.

LOL! i was wondering why the heck they had to throw in an incontinence pad as well. i just thought it was so random and odd...and no, i don't think he wet the bed, lol!
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Post by einsof Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:31 am

This room is very messy. I think this photo is fake. I received a photo of Michael "on his deathbed," but seems to be fake. I can not post here. I am in now and tabalho picture is saved on the computer in my house. Well, if someone wants to see a picture let me know.
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Post by dancer1792 Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:56 am

sunnyscrapper wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:The toothpaste is becuae MJ had an obsession supoosedly with oral hygeine. Why its on the bed...not sure.
Marcia Clark said last night that the pic looks fake and she said she has seen photos before of a "deathbed" and they looked NOTHING like this. She said the room would be in more of a disarrayed state because of all the commotion in trying to save someones life. The water bottles wouldve been on the floor etc. She said the room looks staged and things are too neat.

I had some theories about the staged scene on MJHD. I tried to explain everything odd in that picture with reference to Michael's hero PT Barnum. The toothpaste has a place as does the doll, beads, brand of water, orange juice etc. This was definitely a staged picture but the question is was this Michael giving us some clues or a greedy tabloid journalist.

sunnyscrapper, I saw your PT Barnum theories on MJHD. They were really good! You really went into detail on why each thing was there. Smile
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Post by einsof Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:16 pm

dancer1792 wrote:
sunnyscrapper wrote:
THE JACKSONOLOGIST wrote:The toothpaste is becuae MJ had an obsession supoosedly with oral hygeine. Why its on the bed...not sure.
Marcia Clark said last night that the pic looks fake and she said she has seen photos before of a "deathbed" and they looked NOTHING like this. She said the room would be in more of a disarrayed state because of all the commotion in trying to save someones life. The water bottles wouldve been on the floor etc. She said the room looks staged and things are too neat.

I had some theories about the staged scene on MJHD. I tried to explain everything odd in that picture with reference to Michael's hero PT Barnum. The toothpaste has a place as does the doll, beads, brand of water, orange juice etc. This was definitely a staged picture but the question is was this Michael giving us some clues or a greedy tabloid journalist.

sunnyscrapper, I saw your PT Barnum theories on MJHD. They were really good! You really went into detail on why each thing was there. Smile
Wow! I want to read what The Jacksonologist wrote on the scene. I read that very well think this picture is false. Is more of a messy fourth room
than for a person who died there.
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