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Post by Rach on Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:57 am

Ok so, the funeral has already been delayed numerous times for what I can only describe as petty reasons.

However, if it does go ahead as planned on September 3rd and we see pictures of the family grieving and the funeral taking place will you be inclined to believe that Michael is really gone?

I'm just curious to know what everyone thinks because one would assume after the funeral that everyone will stop questioning this.
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Post by MJGIRL18 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:03 am

WOW......TOUGH ONE.
I'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE
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Post by ilprincipe on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:04 am

A big part of this Jackson Clan consists of hypocrites..
Jermaine and La Toya are such bad actors....

If MJ -or this empty coffin, or this foreign body-
will really be buried on Sept 3rd....
I don't care....

I'm waiting for this movie...
waiting for Xmas....New Years Eve....

and time will tell....

maybe in some months MJ will not so often occupy my mind..
and the same could happen to a big part of the other believers...
and all of a sudden..
then- when most don't expect it-
he will return...who knows...
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Post by ishealive on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:08 am

I still won't believe it Rachel not just 'cos i'm in a bit of denial but because this case is so amateur and there's clues being sent left right and centre and none of it makes sense.
I don't believe he's dead, he's working behind the scenes as we speak!
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Post by shirley-grace on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:09 am

I don't think so tongue
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:10 am

I dont even wanna go there. The thought of that Breaks my heart into 1000 of pieces and I will NEVER be able to get my heart back to normal, ever again. Sad Sad

IM not ready to let Michael go yet, im not sure I´ll ever be ready for that.
But, someday I will have to find a way too learn to live with it, as heartbroken as I will be. Sad

As far as I know, the papparazzi is not allowed to even get near the family that day. Just the though of all Michaels fans beeing there, see them upset. Sad

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Post by CantlivewithoutMJ on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:18 am

You know i have many times thought that if he is really "dead".Then maybe he is watching us in heaven or whenever he is and is like:oh my lovely,sweet fans but i am really dead,u are trying so hard.It is so sad to watch you like that.

I cant stop thinking about it Neutral
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:31 am

If Michael really "died" I will no longer have faith in GOD. NO, GOD takes away an angel Sad Sad

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Post by MJbeliever on Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:53 am

i won't . until i see real footage of him in that coffin , that's actually convinceable , they i'll start thinking about it.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:00 am

MJbeliever wrote:i won't . until i see real footage of him in that coffin , that's actually convinceable , they i'll start thinking about it.

I dont think that will ever going to happen

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Post by CantlivewithoutMJ on Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:05 am

I only belive it then if i can see him in the coffin myself.

Only then.
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Post by MJbeliever on Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:13 am

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
MJbeliever wrote:i won't . until i see real footage of him in that coffin , that's actually convinceable , they i'll start thinking about it.

I dont think that will ever going to happen

i know . pretty much my point...i don't think i'll ever be fully convinced he's gone. even 5 years from now.
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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:29 am

Okey I dont know where to post this, so Im going do it here. Didnt Karen Faye say that Michael DIDNT KNOW how to work a computer, or do anything on it?? Well thats BS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swaa43o2M3U

he is answering fan mail here on a laptop


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Post by GirlSaturday on Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:26 pm

No, the 9/3/09 funeral will not change my mind about this all being a hoax.

I might, but it's doubtful, be inclined to re-evaluate my beliefs if subsequent dates such as Halloween, New Years Day, April Fools's Day and June 25th 2010 come and go. Those dates would make good "gotcha" dates.

When I first started having gut feelings about a hoax, I thought that I must be 1) in major denial or 2)going crazy. I was for years one of those people who laughed at others who insisted that Elvis was alive or that there had been Tupac sightings. To me those people seemed like nutcases. Now here I am doing the same thing by believing that MJ is alive and that he faked his death. LOL...they do not seem so laughable anymore. No one and I mean no one (aside from you guys on this sight) knows about my belief that MJ is alive. My core belief that MJ is alive does not stem from the longings of a fan in mourning. For many, that is the basis for their belief as in "he cannot be dead or he must live forever" so they possibly create a fantasy world where he does indeed last forever. Nope not me.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I was a J5/Jacksons fan first. I later became a fan of MJ's during his solo career too. However...there was a period (post Bad)when I casually listened to his music and drifted away from him as a person. It may have been my own life changes, other musical genres that peaked my interest or any number of reasons. MJ was on my radar but I no longer obsessed over him like days of old when I was a child leading up to young adult. I share this because when I learned of MJ's death and circumstances something in my "objective and distant" mind didn't register correctly. As stories (clues) began to unfold, I still found myself shaking my head and thinking that something fishy is up. Admittedly, my first assumption was murder. Face it, a dead MJ would make a lot of living people very very rich. Sure some will say that a living MJ would make others rich as well. The key difference is that a dead MJ would not be around to prevent the outright exploitation of his music and legacy. As more and more stories surfaced and unsual occurrences took place, the murder theory went out the window and was replaced with the hoax theory. Eureka! It was like having a migraine, taking a pill and after a nice sleep waking up feeling refreshed. That is exactly how I felt upon realizing that our boy pulled this off himself.

Through this "dissertation"...lol... my main message is that I would be hard-pressed to go back on my gut feeling even after a funeral sevice. Someone wiser than I once advised me to always follow my gut. When I have followed that advice, I have never ever been wrong about a person or situation.



Rachel wrote:Ok so, the funeral has already been delayed numerous times for what I can only describe as petty reasons.

However, if it does go ahead as planned on September 3rd and we see pictures of the family grieving and the funeral taking place will you be inclined to believe that Michael is really gone?

I'm just curious to know what everyone thinks because one would assume after the funeral that everyone will stop questioning this.
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Post by ballongiraf on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:21 pm

Rachel wrote:
However, if it does go ahead as planned on September 3rd and we see pictures of the family grieving and the funeral taking place will you be inclined to believe that Michael is really gone?

Interesting question, rachel.
You know, if this matter had been handled differently (as in the family had acted like a grieving family rather than a "let's cash in while we can" family, if their stories and reports had been consistent, if there weren't so many things that doesnt add up, if the LAPD had handled this matter as they should etc)... then YES, i would've believed it if the burial went ahead.
But when you take all the hoopla, all the lies, all the BS all the WTF moments into consideration, i dont see why i should believe anything just because they go ahead with something. And it's not because im a desperate "in denial" fan. I just ask the question, why should i believe anything the Jackson family says/does when they've shown time after time that they're not trustworthy? Why should i believe a family, who acts like a "let's cash in while we can" family rather than a grieving family? They announced an aug 29 burial that was postponed just days later "because some family members couldnt make it that day" - yet everybody and their momma was present at the AEG hearing yesterday? Gee..... they can't make a burial of their son/brother/uncle/cousin/whatever a nr. 1 priority, but when there's a court hearing about monies, they all come running? Uhhh.......

When you lie, twist and delay things time and time again, how can you expect people to believe you? It's like the boy, who cried wolf...
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Post by Grace on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:23 pm

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Post by anotherpartofme on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:26 pm

I dont know..
I am so afraid! I want to believe that he is alive but what if...
Anyway, you are there to help me to hope and believe .. Thank you for that!!!!
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Post by kdkennedy74 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:19 pm

If there had been a set story as to the events and the timelines then I may be inclined to believe, but with so many stories as to where he was found, how long he had been "dead", his physical condition, etc I just can not bring myself to believe it.

Even with the Anna Nicole saga the story of how she died and where she was found and when never changed and the media had a field day with that story.
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Post by Sweet1 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:40 pm

Nope! I know in my heart he's alive. The funeral is just for those that bought into the hype. Nothing I have seen or heard has convinced me that MJ died on June 25th. Keep the Faith!
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:41 pm

MJGIRL18 wrote:WOW......TOUGH ONE.
I'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Ditto x 3 Evil or Very Mad No Neutral - and I wanna see him in the coffin myself - no cameras - no crazed fans - no weird stuff - just look at him - deceased and not moving ... then I will accept it with all heart and understanding - but I don't believe anything that anyone says at this point.
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Post by CantlivewithoutMJ on Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:48 pm

Yeah we have to belive it,we have to belive in our hearts,thats important not that what others(bad)people are saying.
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Post by annieisnotokey on Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:35 pm

Rachel wrote:Ok so, the funeral has already been delayed numerous times for what I can only describe as petty reasons.

However, if it does go ahead as planned on September 3rd and we see pictures of the family grieving and the funeral taking place will you be inclined to believe that Michael is really gone?

I'm just curious to know what everyone thinks because one would assume after the funeral that everyone will stop questioning this.

1) I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Wink
2) At some point, if this is a death hoax to not come back or if MJ is being protected by the government, the family will have to bury something. So the burial alone will not change my belief that he's still alive.
3) With all the security measures the family is considering for the burial, I doubt we will see any pics of them grieving (or not). And since I'm not a body language expert, even if I see pics of the family grieving I won't be able to tell if their feelings are real or fake.

Moreover if at some point I start believing that MJ is actually dead (which I don't see happening any time soon), I won't ever stop questioning this because there is no way this is just a "normal" death (i.e. natural causes, drug overdose, etc.). Dead or not, there are already too many inconsistencies and crazyness going around to just give up. Suspect
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Post by jflem18 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:54 am

EVERYONE SHOULD WALK BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT!
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Post by SmoothCriminal on Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:28 am

Ditto ill cross that bridge when i come to it i feel in my heart hes alive and im sticking with it Smile i need hard evidence and not some hearsay
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Post by silvy on Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:48 am

I'll still will be questioning everything..Buried or not!
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Post by PinkLizard on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:20 am

Even if there is a burial I will not let them insult my intelligence. If you look at the facts some things just don't add up. As I've said before, my worry is, we may never find out the truth (another Elvis situation). I really hope this doesn't happen as we would all have to make our peace with not knowing. As always, search your heart.........what does it tell you?! I love you
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Post by Smelly on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:23 am

Well my hearts telling me he's still alive, that's why I'm here lol.
If a burial does go ahead it's still not gonna make me believe he's dead.
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Post by PinkLizard on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:48 am

I love you wise heart smelly
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Post by Smelly on Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:52 am

Awww thanks, that's the only thing closest to wise about me!! Surprised
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Post by PinkLizard on Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:13 am

Smelly, I don't believe that for a second!! Very Happy
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Post by Jubilee on Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:59 am

I think if/when the 'burial' takes place we are going to come across more clues.

Well that's what I'm hoping for! Don't like the thought of him being buried Sad
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Post by phoenix on Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:52 am

well....its a question i asked myself many many many times and i have only one answer- i will still believe because if there is going to be a funeral (which seems quite impossible to me right now) to me it just means that Michael is not going to come back on stage again, that he just really had enough of this rumors, lies and some really crazy stalkers...
i think the whole circus is there to show the ones who love him that he REALLY is alive but its only him, who knows the reasons and if he wants to stay away for good i gonna accept- but never ever believe he is dead.
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Post by MJFOREVER on Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:54 am

Well if the burial takes place i dont think he will ever come back, he will live a peacefull life without all those MOFO media(one of the big reasons his life was like hell Mad ).But it can also be part of it but i dont think that Neutral

I dont know im realy confused the last few days Crying or Very sad
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Post by summer+sc3nt on Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:29 am

Should there ever come a time that Michael is finally reported to have been laid to rest.. I still stand firm in my beliefs that he's alive somewhere. Just that there is no coming back as I've hoped. Well, I'm saying that cause of all those 'beat around the bush' situations makes one wonders, that if Michael has really passed on the family and friends will be too greiving to even think of clowning around with the dates of burial... My Dad passed on almost 3 years now and I still missed him a lot. I wouldn't be in the mood to fool around. Let alone not letting his friends say a final farewell? Friends as in Fans.. I mean.

P.S. Michael only you know whats the outcome of it all... I wish you luck and peace be with you which ever path you may choose. You'll live on forever in our hearts and your music will continue to keep us connected to you. I want to say 'Thank You & Big Hugs for bringing us all together over here...' I'm sure we all wanna sing.. 'Come Together'.. together lol...

Feeling a lil sad but I'm still smiling tho.
Hugs y'all
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Post by Guest on Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:52 am

They have announced for the funual, but the public is not allowed to see it. Makes you wonder, doesent it??

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Post by yaya on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:14 am

even if the funeral happens, i'm not losing hope. i'm sure the memorial had that effect (it did for me, then i did a 180 and thought he was still alive!), and the funeral will no doubt cause some of those same feelings. but it shouldn't mean he's really gone. especially if the public isn't allowed to see anything, that just makes me think it's all for show.

so don't lose hope guys!
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Post by summer+sc3nt on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:23 am

Now if they keep it a private affair I retrace what I said about Michael not coming back.... bet he's gonna one day... who knows. Keep The Faith.. Don't lose hope!
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Post by Rach on Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:26 pm

Thanks for you answers guys!!

I am so glad to see that so many of you won't give up hope. I asked the question because I don't think I will ever stop believing that Michael is alive somewhere, whether or not he makes a comeback. I am quite scared that I don't think I will ever accept anything that we are told will be enough to convince me.
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