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Post by DONNALOVESMJ Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:17 pm

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:23 pm

haha yeah! all i had to do was lighten my monitor and this is what i got

its very very very clear!

OMG !!!! YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X6g5c1
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Post by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:24 pm

I AM SEEING IT , I AM SEEING IT - That is Michael !!!
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Post by Liberian.Girl. Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:26 pm

THE SHIRT NEEDS TO BE A V NECK. ;D

I'm totally convinced regardless.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:28 pm

oh yeah, and.. I AM TOTALLY CONVINCED.
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:30 pm

I AMMMMMMMMMMMMM HHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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DONNALOVESMJ wrote:I AMMMMMMMMMMMMM HHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

me too! let's just hope nobody is pulling a MEAN MEAN MEAN joke on us. though the video doesnt really look fake. and even if its not the same van, they could have used a different one!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:32 pm

He is wearing white gloves aswell.. hmm.. I dont wanna get my hopes up, Ive been so sick for the past 2 months. If I start believeing in this, and it turns out to be BS. I dont know how sick ill be. But I do so hope for this to be true

Please GOD. make our wish come true


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Post by dunno_it Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:36 pm

Geez, I don't follow, just because he's wearing a white shirt and dark trousers, does he have to be MJ?? I tried to read the 11 pages of that thread but I must've skipped that info...could you please clarify this to me? Thank you so much!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:39 pm


@dunno_it- i was not basing the CLOTHING off of him being alive. i was simply SHOWING what i got when i lightened my monitor, as i clearly stated in my comment. since in the original video from liveleak, it is very dark and you can barely see the clothes.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:44 pm

I was trying to catch a glimpse of the shoes lol
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:45 pm

@peterpanswendy- me and rachel were both saying how we can clearly see black shoes, and white high top socks!!! haha
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Post by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:47 pm

You can indeed! If it's a fake someone has gone to a lot of trouble for a 30 second video. I mean the manerisms even seem to be spot on.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:47 pm

lol I tried to pause it and I saw the black shoes, I just need to brighten the screen and maybe it will be a little more clear.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:54 pm

@rachel you are totally right, his mannerisms do seem like the real MJ, plus, the official coroner van, the gate, etc etc, someone would really have to go through waaay too much for this to be fake. My mom was skeptical about this situation when she saw the 02 pics, but then she, like everyone else, just brushed it off but when she saw the vid today she was like THAT DOES LOOK LIKE HIM...OMG WHAT IF HE REALLY DID FAKE HIS DEATH!
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Post by gujunpyo Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:59 pm

OMG!!
holy tartar sauce!!!
its definitely MJ!!!!
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Post by CantStopLovingU Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:04 pm

Someone on MJHD clearly shows how BEFORE the left the heliport, a man gets back out of the van after the load MJ into it, comes around the back and removes something from the plate / tag ... When I watched the video, the tunnel that the van moves into is dark. Looks like the man who is following the van and who sneaked into the tunnel was able to run about halfway up the hill to the gate when they closed. He zooms in as he continues to sneak closer and closer. You can hear him breathing heavy and was probably barely able to contain himself.

I definately believe that is our MJ !! And I love the WHOO HOOOO!!! You can hear coming from behind the closed doors
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Post by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:08 pm

@ cantstoplovingu

I agree with everything you said except for the last part about the screaming. I think it may be from fans outside the building. I know that after the body was moved from the hospital people started to make their way over to the mortuary and they were signing and dancing and playing Michael's music all night long. I may be wrong though. It would be cool if it was the famil screaming in delight Smile
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Post by yaya Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:08 pm

CantStopLovingU wrote:Someone on MJHD clearly shows how BEFORE the left the heliport, a man gets back out of the van after the load MJ into it, comes around the back and removes something from the plate / tag ... When I watched the video, the tunnel that the van moves into is dark. Looks like the man who is following the van and who sneaked into the tunnel was able to run about halfway up the hill to the gate when they closed. He zooms in as he continues to sneak closer and closer. You can hear him breathing heavy and was probably barely able to contain himself.

I definately believe that is our MJ !! And I love the WHOO HOOOO!!! You can hear coming from behind the closed doors

where is that posted?? i haven't seen that video yet!
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Post by nlb Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:10 pm

missdahmer wrote:@peterpanswendy- me and rachel were both saying how we can clearly see black shoes, and white high top socks!!! haha

I showed the video to my husband-who believes MJ is alive, but really doesn't care either way-said he thought it was MJ as well and mentioned the shoes and socks.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:09 pm

he said whoo hoooo??!! lol I didn't hear it!!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:10 pm

p.s. Rachel I love your avatar lol
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Post by Liberian.Girl. Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:12 pm

Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink
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Post by Liberian.Girl. Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:13 pm

Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink
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Post by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:13 pm

Peterpanswendy wrote:p.s. Rachel I love your avatar lol

Awww thanks Hon! Isn't it darling?!
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Post by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:17 pm

Michael shouts behind the Door ??? I thought it was the Fans doing that ... I am review the video again ... I am shocked to hear that !!!!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:17 pm

someone on youtube said:
You need to check this out in slow motion. Play it backwards and keep pausing it. Prince is there to. He gets out of the Van first. It so hard to see but keep pausing and pausing it. When michael gets out (or if it's really him he hides him in front. Just keep pausing. You will see it I swear. He looks part of the Van door but hes there too. Goodness I cant believe all of this.



hmmmm....what???
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Post by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:18 pm

Indeed the woo hoo and hey ya, matches exactly the time he goes in and disappears. If its a fake, keeps the question, how the hell they got an officer van?If they did they might be reported and got fired imediatly!Im leaning with the 2 vans theory, since I watched the one where the guy supposedly take a stick from the van, but to me just seemed he touched it, tough if you can show im wrong, I´d be veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thankful.

Im crazy for next tuesday episode!Gosh it just make me remember the time i was addicted with XFiles and the only thing I´d be able to think about was, when the new episode will come out.So be it...

The Truth Is Out There...And for sure will prevail!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:20 pm

Liberian.Girl. wrote:Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink


Listen to what?. I can only hear someone breath.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:23 pm

uhm i dont see prince at all?? haha i can hear the woo hoo but i dont hear the hey ya...
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Post by CantStopLovingU Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:24 pm

Yes as soon as the guard leads Michael into the door, you can hear what sounds like a joyful WOO HOO or something. Like there was someone waiting for him there.

Also, did anyone think that the person who filmed this might just work in that building? Maybe he heard that MJ was on his way to the C. Office so he hid in the tunnel until the can pulled in. Hmmmm
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:26 pm

i do hear the WOOOOO hooooooooo! haha...and the person who was filming sounds to be like really nervous panting once MJ gets out of the van...
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Post by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:27 pm

The ya is very low, but its there...And is prince wearing a black cap?Cause if he is...I think I saw him O.o.There is a tip of something what looks as cap near the body guard shoulder, prior mike comes out.Its just one second.Tough I need someone to confirm if they had saw a cap too. Shocked
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Post by muffin56 Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 pm

Peterpanswendy wrote:someone on youtube said:
You need to check this out in slow motion. Play it backwards and keep pausing it. Prince is there to. He gets out of the Van first. It so hard to see but keep pausing and pausing it. When michael gets out (or if it's really him he hides him in front. Just keep pausing. You will see it I swear. He looks part of the Van door but hes there too. Goodness I cant believe all of this.



hmmmm....what???

can you tell me exactly where you see Prince Shocked !
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Post by yaya Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 pm

i played it about a million times, but i don't see prince...
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Post by Pammy Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:29 pm

I´m just wondering why this video was posted just today and not weeks ago?? Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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Post by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:31 pm

So I said I saw something what looks as a tip of a black cap, so I need so much to know if had anyone saw it also, near the shoulder of the body guard,cause this tip appeared prior the "Moonwalk Man" jumps from the van. O.o. Ok I really lost my mind now. Shocked

Maybe Pammy cof cof cause today we were "celebrating" 2 months of his freedom?


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Post by Liberian.Girl. Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:31 pm

I'm not seeing Prince. o_o I replayed the thing about five times and paused every few seconds before/after "Mystery Man" hopped out of the van.
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Post by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:33 pm

I have watched this clip a million times and don't see another person. Look at the legs. There are only 4 and not 6. God I wish this was clearer.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:35 pm

i dont see prince at all. i see what LOOKS like a black cap but i think its just something on the van i cant really tell to be honest.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:38 pm

yeah I can't see it either. I tried but I just saw MJ
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Post by neverlandsfairy Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:39 pm

missdahmer wrote:i dont see prince at all. i see what LOOKS like a black cap but i think its just something on the van i cant really tell to be honest.

At least haha Im not nuts since you saw also something that looks as a cap.It was what I said, I saw a cap. not exactly Prince...
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Post by EarthAngel90 Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:39 pm

I heard the WOOO HOOOO - and I heard the Hard Breathing - that is Michael ....
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Post by nlb Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:40 pm

Someone over on MJHD suggested that maybe it was released today because of the media coverage yesterday over the coronor's report.
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:40 pm

I didn't say I saw him...I said someone on youtube said if you play it backwards and keep pausing it you will see him, I haven't seen him personally
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Post by Banessa Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:43 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
Liberian.Girl. wrote:Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink


Listen to what?. I can only hear someone breath.


You are right you can hear someone breathing! I think is the camera man who is not so much breathing but it seems as if he is trying to catch his breath! IMO If this was fake the guy filming would be in it too wouldn't he? So why the need to sound as if he is out breath! as if he ran to be able to get the footage? scratch I could be wrong so knock some sense into me please! Because I might just be loosing it! lol!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:45 pm

nlb wrote:Someone over on MJHD suggested that maybe it was released today because of the media coverage yesterday over the coronor's report.


That is the most life like dead body ive ever seen in my entire life lol!
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:47 pm

Banessa wrote:
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Liberian.Girl. wrote:Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink


Listen to what?. I can only hear someone breath.


You are right you can hear someone breathing! I think is the camera man who is not so much breathing but it seems as if he is trying to catch his breath! IMO If this was fake the guy filming would be in it too wouldn't he? So why the need to sound as if he is out breath! as if he ran to be able to get the footage? scratch I could be wrong so knock some sense into me please! Because I might just be loosing it! lol!

no no, you are right! he is either out of breath, or panting nervously!
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Post by Rach Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:50 pm

The way the video is shot it looks like he is in a car so why would he be out of breathe?

I know if it was me filming this you wouldn't even see him going through the door, but a shot of the ceiling because I would have fainted!!!!
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Post by MJJ Love Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:04 pm

I have watched it a lot of times too, and I do not see Prince.
I think maybe that person was being sarcastic or something.

BUT, WOW, SO this guy helping him get out is DR. MURRAY. Makes sense because DR> MURRAY is supposedly 6' 5". AND MJ is 5 10 or 5 11.
HAHA!
This is just too good. I have not watched TV in weeks, because this is just wow....
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