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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:17 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOCO3qsQMTg
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:24 pm

I AM SEEING IT , I AM SEEING IT - That is Michael !!!
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Post by Liberian.Girl. on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:26 pm

THE SHIRT NEEDS TO BE A V NECK. ;D

I'm totally convinced regardless.
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Post by DONNALOVESMJ on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:30 pm

I AMMMMMMMMMMMMM HHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by dunno_it on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:36 pm

Geez, I don't follow, just because he's wearing a white shirt and dark trousers, does he have to be MJ?? I tried to read the 11 pages of that thread but I must've skipped that info...could you please clarify this to me? Thank you so much!
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:47 pm

You can indeed! If it's a fake someone has gone to a lot of trouble for a 30 second video. I mean the manerisms even seem to be spot on.
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Post by gujunpyo on Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:59 pm

OMG!!
holy tartar sauce!!!
its definitely MJ!!!!
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:04 pm

Someone on MJHD clearly shows how BEFORE the left the heliport, a man gets back out of the van after the load MJ into it, comes around the back and removes something from the plate / tag ... When I watched the video, the tunnel that the van moves into is dark. Looks like the man who is following the van and who sneaked into the tunnel was able to run about halfway up the hill to the gate when they closed. He zooms in as he continues to sneak closer and closer. You can hear him breathing heavy and was probably barely able to contain himself.

I definately believe that is our MJ !! And I love the WHOO HOOOO!!! You can hear coming from behind the closed doors
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:08 pm

@ cantstoplovingu

I agree with everything you said except for the last part about the screaming. I think it may be from fans outside the building. I know that after the body was moved from the hospital people started to make their way over to the mortuary and they were signing and dancing and playing Michael's music all night long. I may be wrong though. It would be cool if it was the famil screaming in delight Smile
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Post by yaya on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:08 pm

CantStopLovingU wrote:Someone on MJHD clearly shows how BEFORE the left the heliport, a man gets back out of the van after the load MJ into it, comes around the back and removes something from the plate / tag ... When I watched the video, the tunnel that the van moves into is dark. Looks like the man who is following the van and who sneaked into the tunnel was able to run about halfway up the hill to the gate when they closed. He zooms in as he continues to sneak closer and closer. You can hear him breathing heavy and was probably barely able to contain himself.

I definately believe that is our MJ !! And I love the WHOO HOOOO!!! You can hear coming from behind the closed doors

where is that posted?? i haven't seen that video yet!
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Post by nlb on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:10 pm

missdahmer wrote:@peterpanswendy- me and rachel were both saying how we can clearly see black shoes, and white high top socks!!! haha

I showed the video to my husband-who believes MJ is alive, but really doesn't care either way-said he thought it was MJ as well and mentioned the shoes and socks.
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Post by Liberian.Girl. on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:12 pm

Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink
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Post by Liberian.Girl. on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:13 pm

Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:13 pm

Peterpanswendy wrote:p.s. Rachel I love your avatar lol

Awww thanks Hon! Isn't it darling?!
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:17 pm

Michael shouts behind the Door ??? I thought it was the Fans doing that ... I am review the video again ... I am shocked to hear that !!!!
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Post by neverlandsfairy on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:18 pm

Indeed the woo hoo and hey ya, matches exactly the time he goes in and disappears. If its a fake, keeps the question, how the hell they got an officer van?If they did they might be reported and got fired imediatly!Im leaning with the 2 vans theory, since I watched the one where the guy supposedly take a stick from the van, but to me just seemed he touched it, tough if you can show im wrong, I´d be veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thankful.

Im crazy for next tuesday episode!Gosh it just make me remember the time i was addicted with XFiles and the only thing I´d be able to think about was, when the new episode will come out.So be it...

The Truth Is Out There...And for sure will prevail!
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Post by CantStopLovingU on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:24 pm

Yes as soon as the guard leads Michael into the door, you can hear what sounds like a joyful WOO HOO or something. Like there was someone waiting for him there.

Also, did anyone think that the person who filmed this might just work in that building? Maybe he heard that MJ was on his way to the C. Office so he hid in the tunnel until the can pulled in. Hmmmm
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Post by neverlandsfairy on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:27 pm

The ya is very low, but its there...And is prince wearing a black cap?Cause if he is...I think I saw him O.o.There is a tip of something what looks as cap near the body guard shoulder, prior mike comes out.Its just one second.Tough I need someone to confirm if they had saw a cap too. Shocked
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Post by muffin56 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 pm

Peterpanswendy wrote:someone on youtube said:
You need to check this out in slow motion. Play it backwards and keep pausing it. Prince is there to. He gets out of the Van first. It so hard to see but keep pausing and pausing it. When michael gets out (or if it's really him he hides him in front. Just keep pausing. You will see it I swear. He looks part of the Van door but hes there too. Goodness I cant believe all of this.



hmmmm....what???

can you tell me exactly where you see Prince Shocked !
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Post by yaya on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 pm

i played it about a million times, but i don't see prince...
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Post by Pammy on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:29 pm

I´m just wondering why this video was posted just today and not weeks ago?? Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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Post by neverlandsfairy on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:31 pm

So I said I saw something what looks as a tip of a black cap, so I need so much to know if had anyone saw it also, near the shoulder of the body guard,cause this tip appeared prior the "Moonwalk Man" jumps from the van. O.o. Ok I really lost my mind now. Shocked

Maybe Pammy cof cof cause today we were "celebrating" 2 months of his freedom?


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Post by Liberian.Girl. on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:31 pm

I'm not seeing Prince. o_o I replayed the thing about five times and paused every few seconds before/after "Mystery Man" hopped out of the van.
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:33 pm

I have watched this clip a million times and don't see another person. Look at the legs. There are only 4 and not 6. God I wish this was clearer.
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Post by neverlandsfairy on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:39 pm

missdahmer wrote:i dont see prince at all. i see what LOOKS like a black cap but i think its just something on the van i cant really tell to be honest.

At least haha Im not nuts since you saw also something that looks as a cap.It was what I said, I saw a cap. not exactly Prince...
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:39 pm

I heard the WOOO HOOOO - and I heard the Hard Breathing - that is Michael ....
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Post by nlb on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:40 pm

Someone over on MJHD suggested that maybe it was released today because of the media coverage yesterday over the coronor's report.
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Post by Banessa on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:43 pm

MyBelovedMJ wrote:
Liberian.Girl. wrote:Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink


Listen to what?. I can only hear someone breath.


You are right you can hear someone breathing! I think is the camera man who is not so much breathing but it seems as if he is trying to catch his breath! IMO If this was fake the guy filming would be in it too wouldn't he? So why the need to sound as if he is out breath! as if he ran to be able to get the footage? scratch I could be wrong so knock some sense into me please! Because I might just be loosing it! lol!
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:50 pm

The way the video is shot it looks like he is in a car so why would he be out of breathe?

I know if it was me filming this you wouldn't even see him going through the door, but a shot of the ceiling because I would have fainted!!!!
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Post by MJJ Love on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:04 pm

I have watched it a lot of times too, and I do not see Prince.
I think maybe that person was being sarcastic or something.

BUT, WOW, SO this guy helping him get out is DR. MURRAY. Makes sense because DR> MURRAY is supposedly 6' 5". AND MJ is 5 10 or 5 11.
HAHA!
This is just too good. I have not watched TV in weeks, because this is just wow....
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Post by Banessa on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:05 pm

missdahmer wrote:
Banessa wrote:
MyBelovedMJ wrote:
Liberian.Girl. wrote:Peterpanswendy - turn up yer sound and listen slightly before and after the door closes. it sounds like him. Wink


Listen to what?. I can only hear someone breath.


You are right you can hear someone breathing! I think is the camera man who is not so much breathing but it seems as if he is trying to catch his breath! IMO If this was fake the guy filming would be in it too wouldn't he? So why the need to sound as if he is out breath! as if he ran to be able to get the footage? scratch I could be wrong so knock some sense into me please! Because I might just be loosing it! lol!

no no, you are right! he is either out of breath, or panting nervously!

Oh! Good I thought it was just me! he does sound as if he is panting nervously as you said! The question is why? I t
hink he probably saw the van and ran towards it and if this is indeed the Coroner than he knows there is a lot of security around the premises so it would be a matter of time before he could get caught! And if was to get caught then he would have probably been forced to surrender the video! Hence the reason why he is nervously panting! Okay! I think I have a way out vivid imagination lol But hey! it could be possible...can it scratch lol
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:05 pm

WOAH, who said it was Dr Murray?! I am out of the loop here!!!!!

If it is I guess that debunks the idea that he is Michael lol.
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Post by yaya on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:06 pm

MJJ Love wrote:I have watched it a lot of times too, and I do not see Prince.
I think maybe that person was being sarcastic or something.

BUT, WOW, SO this guy helping him get out is DR. MURRAY. Makes sense because DR> MURRAY is supposedly 6' 5". AND MJ is 5 10 or 5 11.
HAHA!
This is just too good. I have not watched TV in weeks, because this is just wow....

dr. murray???
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:06 pm

M.J. is 5'11 w/o Boots - with Boots 6'4 if I am correct ... That is Michael .. and I am sure .....
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Post by Liberian.Girl. on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:08 pm

What about Murray?

EDIT: NVM... It didn't look like murray, tho'.


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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:08 pm

That is not Dr. Murray - that is a bodyguard w/ M.J. ... !!!!
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Post by DawneVee on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:10 pm

EarthAngel90 wrote:That is not Dr. Murray - that is a bodyguard w/ M.J. ... !!!!

Hey if that's a bodyguard, maybe it's that Alvarez guy who decided to 'go away' for awhile after Michael's 'death'.

Or, hmm, how many body guards were at the house June 25th and do we have their names? Pictures?
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Post by Rach on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:13 pm

missdahmer wrote:

to me honestly it looks like he is running in the beginning, before he gets to the gate, but i could be wrong. either way, it doesnt matter. because i know that has to be michael! so that camera guy could be on a fucking pony or a unicycle for all i care!! i just thank him for taking that video haha IF it's real.

Ok quote of the day goes to you Honey!! That had me snorting with laughter!!!!! lol!
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Post by MJJ Love on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:15 pm

Rachel wrote:WOAH, who said it was Dr Murray?! I am out of the loop here!!!!!

If it is I guess that debunks the idea that he is Michael lol.

LOL, I thought the same thing....
It can't be MJ if the doctor helping MJ.

I actually saw someone else type this up earlier, which sounded to me like speculation, because there was no link...Due to the nature of this video, of course no one really has info on who exactly a person is..., just pure speculation...

BUt when they mentioned it, I said t myself, its definitely a HUGE POSSIBILITY.

Thats why he was missing for hours on end w/ no explanation...
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:16 pm

DawneVee wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:That is not Dr. Murray - that is a bodyguard w/ M.J. ... !!!!

Hey if that's a bodyguard, maybe it's that Alvarez guy who decided to 'go away' for awhile after Michael's 'death'.

Or, hmm, how many body guards were at the house June 25th and do we have their names? Pictures?

Dawn - I swear we were thinking the same thing - I think that is Alvarez ... he was only one who was pick to go w/M.J.!!!!
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Post by MJJ Love on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:19 pm

EarthAngel90 wrote:
DawneVee wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:That is not Dr. Murray - that is a bodyguard w/ M.J. ... !!!!

Hey if that's a bodyguard, maybe it's that Alvarez guy who decided to 'go away' for awhile after Michael's 'death'.

Or, hmm, how many body guards were at the house June 25th and do we have their names? Pictures?

Dawn - I swear we were thinking the same thing - I think that is Alvarez ... he was only one who was pick to go w/M.J.!!!!

THats another good one..
Has anyone seen any updates about him.
I remember reading that his wife said he hadn't been seen for days and she had not heard from him.

WOnder if anyone has followed up to see if he has returned home...
If he hasn't then I believe it is safe to think he is with MJ.......
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Post by EarthAngel90 on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:24 pm

MJJ Love wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:
DawneVee wrote:
EarthAngel90 wrote:That is not Dr. Murray - that is a bodyguard w/ M.J. ... !!!!

Hey if that's a bodyguard, maybe it's that Alvarez guy who decided to 'go away' for awhile after Michael's 'death'.

Or, hmm, how many body guards were at the house June 25th and do we have their names? Pictures?

Dawn - I swear we were thinking the same thing - I think that is Alvarez ... he was only one who was pick to go w/M.J.!!!!


THats another good one..
Has anyone seen any updates about him.
I remember reading that his wife said he hadn't been seen for days and she had not heard from him.

WOnder if anyone has followed up to see if he has returned home...
If he hasn't then I believe it is safe to think he is with MJ.......

Does He have a Twitter Account ??? - I can check it out if he has one ...
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Post by nlb on Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:24 pm

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nlb wrote:Someone over on MJHD suggested that maybe it was released today because of the media coverage yesterday over the coronor's report.


That is the most life like dead body ive ever seen in my entire life lol!

lol! lol!
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Post by ballongiraf on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:28 am

is it possible to figure out if the man in the video is one of MJ's bodyguards?
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Post by Jubilee on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:40 am

Wow if only he would just turn his head so we can see his face... watched this in mute and I'm not getting my hopes up about it yet but I'm so suprised this wasn't sold to the media, maybe because it's not convincing enough?? Exciting stuff though just wanna know where they were goin.... xxxx
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Post by Rach on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:45 am

ballongiraf wrote:is it possible to figure out if the man in the video is one of MJ's bodyguards?

OMFG Ballon, I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE your signature picture!!!!!

That is so freaking cool, and true!!!!!!
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Post by ballongiraf on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:47 am

Rachel wrote:
ballongiraf wrote:is it possible to figure out if the man in the video is one of MJ's bodyguards?

OMFG Ballon, I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE your signature picture!!!!!

That is so freaking cool, and true!!!!!!

lol! lol!
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Post by Human_nature on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:56 am

Wherever, whatever, have a nice day !


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Post by ballongiraf on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:59 am

^ i agree with everything you said.

I also believe it's a real video.
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Post by Jubilee on Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:04 am

Human_nature wrote:ok, I listened and watched the video....hmmm many times lol What a Face

I think the person behind the camera walked because we can see the movement of the camera. I think this person 1st thought was catching the "dead body" at the coronor office...but he was surprised..shoked....he begin beathing like someone who's VERY nervous and trying to keep emotions inside.

I heard the victory wooohooo too Wink Someone inside was very happy Razz

I'm sure this person was afraid to post this video. And probably found a way to post without leaving a trace on internet.

Maybe I'm crazy... but I really believe it's a REAL video Like a Star @ heaven

Aye that's very possible but it's so weird that it wasn't on the news
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