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Post by LizzieBee Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:09 pm

Okay. I do not know what to make of this but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. I've always felt that something was not right. It creeps me out that all this info we're reading from like the 90's contains keywords in the hoax...such as dates etc. And then I think I've found another clue.

I was reading an article written in 1994 about the Jordan Chandler case and found this:

"This magazine has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is probing another aspect of Torbiner’s business practices: He makes housecalls to administer drugs—mostly morphine and Demerol—not only postoperatively to his dental patients but also, it seems, to those suffering pain whose source has nothing to do with dental work. He arrives at the homes of his clients—some of them celebrities—carrying a kind of fishing-tackle box that contains drugs and syringes. At one time, the license plate on his Jaguar read “SLPYDOC.” According to Jones, Torbiner charges $350 for a basic
ten-to-twenty-minute visit. In what Jones describes as standard practice, when it’s unclear how
long Torbiner will need to stay, the client, anticipating the stupor that will soon set in, leaves a blank check for Torbiner to fill in with the appropriate amount."

Torbiner is a dentist who administered sodium Amytal to Jordan Chandler while only him and his father were in the room. The drug is supposed to be a "truth serum" but we now know that a person is highly suggestible under it and can have untrue ideas placed in their head simply by being asked a question on the matter. That is how Jordan first spoke of the allegations against MJ.

Link: http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html

But back to my point. Torbiner would break the rules of his practice, go to people's homes, and administer the powerful drugs, morphine and demerol. Morphine? Demerol? In a home? These are some keywords in MJ's "death." Freaky.

Just as freaky as this post:

So, what I did just now, I got my Dangerous CD
and checked 'Planet Earth', and because I am missing Michael I went to
the acknowledgement page again and read of which I know already from
reading it again and again from the past.

SOMETHING caught my eyes and I don't know if it will mean anything but it did sure flipped my eyelids. Here is what's written:

"SPECIAL EDITION CREDITS
Album recorded in Los Angeles from first
session at Ocean Way/Record One Studio 2,
on Monday, June 25, 1990.
through last day of album mix-down at
Larrabee North and Ocean Way Studios on
Tuesday, October 29, 1991."

Pleassse tell me if you had a strange feeling inside upon reading it or my mind is just KAPOOT.

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Post by Christiana Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:35 pm

IMO, if you're saying that MJ could have hired that doc, I would just disagree. I don't think MJ would have anything to do with someone who helped those extortionists rob him of millions of dollars. Just my opinion. But maybe you are suggesting something else? NEW CLUE? Key words Icon_question
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Post by Sweet1 Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:58 pm

Well! It does seem rather strange that his Dangerous Album was recorded on June 25,1990 ( the day in died in 2009) and and finished Oct 29,1991 one day prior to the release of TII. Also, it's possible that MJ used Dr. Torbiner. He was in excruciating pain from the Pepsi accident and also from dancing; he had blisters on his feet so it's no telling. I am sure he didn't always go into a Dr.s office to get a prescription. I am in no passing judgement on MJ. He was human and he had pain and when you have pain and money you can make anything happen. Because he may have possibly been a functional drug user doesn't sway me into having any negative thoughts about him. He's brilliant and the best artist that has ever been produced in decades. This is just my opinion so please don't shoot me. Keep the Faith!
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Post by LizzieBee Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:04 pm

Christiana wrote:IMO, if you're saying that MJ could have hired that doc, I would just disagree. I don't think MJ would have anything to do with someone who helped those extortionists rob him of millions of dollars. Just my opinion. But maybe you are suggesting something else? NEW CLUE? Key words Icon_question

No. =) I'm not suggesting that at all.
I don't know what to make of it. I'm just saying it's weird that while reading all these articles and credits etc. that are about MJ, we are recognizing key words. Such as, demerol and June 25. I told my friend about this and how I don't get it. I can't put it all together. Like how long has Michael been planning this hoax? Did he know we would discover these keywords(clues) while reading about him? I wonder how he came up with the details for the hoax. Like, did he just randomly say, "I'm going to die on June 25 and the cause is going to be from high levels of propofol?" I'm just very confused, as I'm sure we all are.
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Post by LizzieBee Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:19 pm

I think Torbiner sounds A LOT like Conrad Murray. And doesn't anyone find it weird that Conrad STILL hasn't been arrested or charged for anything MJ related and now they're focusing on the child support money he owes instead?
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Post by looking4truth Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:34 pm

LizzieBee wrote:
Christiana wrote:IMO, if you're saying that MJ could have hired that doc, I would just disagree. I don't think MJ would have anything to do with someone who helped those extortionists rob him of millions of dollars. Just my opinion. But maybe you are suggesting something else? NEW CLUE? Key words Icon_question

No. =) I'm not suggesting that at all.
I don't know what to make of it. I'm just saying it's weird that while reading all these articles and credits etc. that are about MJ, we are recognizing key words. Such as, demerol and June 25. I told my friend about this and how I don't get it. I can't put it all together. Like how long has Michael been planning this hoax? Did he know we would discover these keywords(clues) while reading about him? I wonder how he came up with the details for the hoax. Like, did he just randomly say, "I'm going to die on June 25 and the cause is going to be from high levels of propofol?" I'm just very confused, as I'm sure we all are.

OMG! I was wondering the same thing about how long he was planning this. This is not something you just whip up in a year or two. This must've took years to plan and pull off. Years. Maybe since mid-late 90s? I think the clues started coming in in 2005/2006 though. He started to be more bold with his statements about the music industry. He was talking about doing filmmaking. Weird posts from weird visitors are on Michael Jackson's official message board and one of the top fan message boards at this point as well.

And that drug thing is really strange. Not sure what to make out of that but it is interesting.
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:38 pm

I know....see, I wasn't quite sure what to make out of it either.

But I find it so interesting that the key words match u know??
Hmmm....still lots more to discover. Smile
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Post by bibi Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:40 pm

Well since you're also talking abt doctors, here's what I got from MJHD:
Conrad Murray is an actor!!I thought it would fit in here..didnt want to amake a new topic Very Happy

"So I heard a hint in the Chat yesterday(I don't remember who so I'm sorry!!) to go on Wikipedia and look at the Movie 24 Hour Party People.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hour_Party_People
Now I went on the page and was looking around at the plot points and the cast..and this is what I found…
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Now..I didn't jump on the fact that I thought Murray was the actor.I thought "Hey..Maybe Conrad Murray is a common name.." So I clicked the guys name to see his Wikipedia page…and This is what Immediatly came up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Murray
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Now..Normally when you click an actors name,It will come up with a Wikipedia page about them. And it did for every other actor from this movie.But not Conrad Murray.Make of this what you will..but I found it pretty strange.
I'm not lying.Go and use the links that I provided for yourselves and you will see"
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:50 pm

Thank you for this. I'm not sure what to make of it either but wow. Smile
Before I read all of your post I clicked on the Wikipedia page and then Conrad Murray's name. And I found the same thing.
I was also thinking that maybe Conrad Murray was a common name so it had to be coincidence. But then I saw the Death of Michael Jackson page. That is the only other thing the name Conrad is linked to??? Weird. Hmm....Thanks again love. Smile


bibi wrote:Well since you're also talking abt doctors, here's what I got from MJHD:
Conrad Murray is an actor!!I thought it would fit in here..didnt want to amake a new topic Very Happy

"So I heard a hint in the Chat yesterday(I don't remember who so I'm sorry!!) to go on Wikipedia and look at the Movie 24 Hour Party People.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hour_Party_People
Now I went on the page and was looking around at the plot points and the cast..and this is what I found…
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Now..I didn't jump on the fact that I thought Murray was the actor.I thought "Hey..Maybe Conrad Murray is a common name.." So I clicked the guys name to see his Wikipedia page…and This is what Immediatly came up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Murray
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Now..Normally when you click an actors name,It will come up with a Wikipedia page about them. And it did for every other actor from this movie.But not Conrad Murray.Make of this what you will..but I found it pretty strange.
I'm not lying.Go and use the links that I provided for yourselves and you will see"
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:59 pm

But wait! So I use this site to look up actors etc. And I searched for Conrad Murray and found this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1177173/
So maybe it IS a different Conrad???
Idk. Most likely. He's only been in two films and they are both UK films.
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Post by queenpanther55 Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:02 pm

im not sure if this is right for me to say this but you know what? everything that happened about MJ has a very mysterious ending..

narrate it:

1. the pepsi commercial = burn centers
2. the jordan chandler case = pedophile awareness
3. the arvizo's case and why it happened and how come MJ trusted this people when we know infact that they have a past record. (Do you ever think of it??) = justice awareness
and do you know how big the revelation is when this trial came?
4. then he disappeared... = ???
5. then he made a comeback and died..

LOL..

i have read all content of the trial molestation case, and i ended up thinking why did it happened and how come.. i was really furuous.. LOL..

so thankfs for opening this up..atleast i can tell that whats happening might be all a hoax to add up spices of his Life.. you know what i mean..

love you michael jackson..
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Post by bibi Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:06 pm

LizzieBee wrote:But wait! So I use this site to look up actors etc. And I searched for Conrad Murray and found this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1177173/
So maybe it IS a different Conrad???
Idk. Most likely. He's only been in two films and they are both UK films.

Yeah, I saw the imdb too...but why would wikipedia link the doctor to the actor if it's not the same person?The actor should have a wikipedia page with his credits too...that would make more sense..but then again..these days nothing makes sense
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Post by StayTuned Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:09 pm

There is also another movie with his name...the plague in 2006 NEW CLUE? Key words Icon_rolleyes
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:09 pm

Yes. I do know what you mean. Thanks. What you're saying makes sense. Hmm..MJ was always proving something to someone wasn't he??

queenpanther55 wrote:im not sure if this is right for me to say this but you know what? everything that happened about MJ has a very mysterious ending..

narrate it:

1. the pepsi commercial = burn centers
2. the jordan chandler case = pedophile awareness
3. the arvizo's case and why it happened and how come MJ trusted this people when we know infact that they have a past record. (Do you ever think of it??) = justice awareness
and do you know how big the revelation is when this trial came?
4. then he disappeared... = ???
5. then he made a comeback and died..

LOL..

i have read all content of the trial molestation case, and i ended up thinking why did it happened and how come.. i was really furuous.. LOL..

so thankfs for opening this up..atleast i can tell that whats happening might be all a hoax to add up spices of his Life.. you know what i mean..

love you michael jackson..
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Post by neverlandprincess Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:34 pm

LizzieBee wrote:Thank you for this. I'm not sure what to make of it either but wow. Smile
Before I read all of your post I clicked on the Wikipedia page and then Conrad Murray's name. And I found the same thing.
I was also thinking that maybe Conrad Murray was a common name so it had to be coincidence. But then I saw the Death of Michael Jackson page. That is the only other thing the name Conrad is linked to??? Weird. Hmm....Thanks again love. Smile


bibi wrote:Well since you're also talking abt doctors, here's what I got from MJHD:
Conrad Murray is an actor!!I thought it would fit in here..didnt want to amake a new topic Very Happy

"So I heard a hint in the Chat yesterday(I don't remember who so I'm sorry!!) to go on Wikipedia and look at the Movie 24 Hour Party People.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hour_Party_People
Now I went on the page and was looking around at the plot points and the cast..and this is what I found…
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Now..I didn't jump on the fact that I thought Murray was the actor.I thought "Hey..Maybe Conrad Murray is a common name.." So I clicked the guys name to see his Wikipedia page…and This is what Immediatly came up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Murray
NEW CLUE? Key words Qxusn9NEW CLUE? Key words Mouse
Now..Normally when you click an actors name,It will come up with a Wikipedia page about them. And it did for every other actor from this movie.But not Conrad Murray.Make of this what you will..but I found it pretty strange.
I'm not lying.Go and use the links that I provided for yourselves and you will see"


I just looked on IMDB and Conrad Murray was not listed in the casting-its weird that he is listed here.
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:35 pm

StayTuned wrote:There is also another movie with his name...the plague in 2006 NEW CLUE? Key words Icon_rolleyes

Yeah. I saw that. And I found something very interesting. I'm probably just over thinking this and it's most likely just coincidence but look at this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274309/fullcredits#cast

Notice any familiar names?

Dave= Dave Dave
Martin= Bashir Twisted Evil
Paul= Paul McCartney
Peter= Peter Pan
Naomi= Naomi Campell
Michael= Who do you think? MJ of course
Elizabeth= Elizabeth Taylor
Conrad Murray= Hehe...wow.
Joseph= MJ's father
Jean-Jacques= Billie Jean?
O'Neil= Tatum O'Neil
Catherine= Katherine Jackson
Taylor= Elizabeth Taylor
Berry= Berry Gordy or Gibb
Debbie= Debbie Rowe
Jackson= Jackson


Other key words?

The Jam
Cleaner
Van
Assistant
Aspiring singer
Journalist
Actor
Wise guy
Vegas

Hehe...and there are also similar names in the other movie Conrad Murray is in.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466472/fullcredits#cast


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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:36 pm

He is listed if you click on "more."
Very Happy
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Post by neverlandprincess Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:36 pm

One thing about Wikipedia is that anyone can post on information-one reason good teachers won't let you use it as a referance source.
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Post by juliet Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:38 pm

Good for starting this thread LIZ. I posted some ideas on this "Dangerous" album regarding the date June 25 recording and CTOBER 29 final cut and the Torbiner used by the dentist before and I guess I was the only one sensitive to the dates.

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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:38 pm

bibi wrote:
LizzieBee wrote:But wait! So I use this site to look up actors etc. And I searched for Conrad Murray and found this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1177173/
So maybe it IS a different Conrad???
Idk. Most likely. He's only been in two films and they are both UK films.

Yeah, I saw the imdb too...but why would wikipedia link the doctor to the actor if it's not the same person?The actor should have a wikipedia page with his credits too...that would make more sense..but then again..these days nothing makes sense

Wikipedia might not have a page on every actor, especially actors who are not that famous.
And they could have linked Conrad Murray to the death because it's the only page they have of that name.
It does that sometimes with other names/key words also. Smile


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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:41 pm

neverlandprincess wrote:One thing about Wikipedia is that anyone can post on information-one reason good teachers won't let you use it as a referance source.

Exactly. My teachers do not allow Wikipedia as a reliable source. Smile
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:45 pm

juliet wrote:Good for starting this thread LIZ. I posted some ideas on this "Dangerous" album regarding the date June 25 recording and CTOBER 29 final cut and the Torbiner used by the dentist before and I guess I was the only one sensitive to the dates.

Anyway, Go LIZEE NEW CLUE? Key words Icon_basketball

Thank you! And yes...I actually used your post as a clue too. But....oopss...I didn't put your name. I must do that now.
Thank you for finding great clues love. We are all in this together. Smile
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Post by queenpanther55 Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:47 pm

yeah true. Wikipedia is not a good source. Anyone can post anything there. I had a trouble using that as my main reference for post medical studies. LOL.
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Post by neverlandprincess Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:48 pm

ok I think I am finally following this right-my brain gets scattered on here,especially when I have been on it for a while. "24 Hour Party People" is a movie-it took me a minute b/c I thought it was a page on Wikipedia....LOL sorry my bad. It seems Lizzie Bear is seeing all my screw ups in one night. I PROMISE I AM USUALLY NOT THIS DIMWITTED. It must be because the movie is tomorrow night -ya think? I looked up Conrad on IMDB and those were the onlt two movies-no picture. ?????
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:48 pm

queenpanther55 wrote:yeah true. Wikipedia is not a good source. Anyone can post anything there. I had a trouble using that as my main reference for post medical studies. LOL.


Lol. Yeah. Smile Very Happy
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Post by juliet Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:48 pm

No sweat, don't worry about that.

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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:51 pm

neverlandprincess wrote:ok I think I am finally following this right-my brain gets scattered on here,especially when I have been on it for a while. "24 Hour Party People" is a movie-it took me a minute b/c I thought it was a page on Wikipedia....LOL sorry my bad. It seems Lizzie Bear is seeing all my screw ups in one night. I PROMISE I AM USUALLY NOT THIS DIMWITTED. It must be because the movie is tomorrow night -ya think? I looked up Conrad on IMDB and those were the onlt two movies-no picture. ?????

Hehe. Aww...you know we all love you. <3
My brain is pretty scattered too. I'm also seeing the movie tomorrow night. Actually 24 hours and 10 min. from right now. Hehe.
I hate it when I cannot find a picture of the person. And like googling the name would do any good...all u would get is a pic of MJ's "murderer."
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:52 pm

juliet wrote:No sweat, don't worry about that.

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Haha. Thanks for the love and support Juliet. I added your name and the date etc.
God bless! Smile
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:11 pm

Yeah. I saw that. And I found something very interesting. I'm probably just over thinking this and it's most likely just coincidence but look at this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274309/fullcredits#cast

Notice any familiar names?

Dave= Dave Dave
Martin= Bashir Twisted Evil
Paul= Paul McCartney
Peter= Peter Pan
Naomi= Naomi Campell
Michael= Who do you think? MJ of course
Elizabeth= Elizabeth Taylor
Conrad Murray= Hehe...wow.
Joseph= MJ's father
Jean-Jacques= Billie Jean?
O'Neil= Tatum O'Neil
Catherine= Katherine Jackson
Taylor= Elizabeth Taylor
Berry= Berry Gordy or Gibb
Debbie= Debbie Rowe
Jackson= Jackson


Other key words?

The Jam
Cleaner
Van
Assistant
Aspiring singer
Journalist
Actor
Wise guy
Vegas

Hehe...and there are also similar names in the other movie Conrad Murray is in.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466472/fullcredits#cast
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Post by Christiana Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:58 pm

bibi wrote:
LizzieBee wrote:But wait! So I use this site to look up actors etc. And I searched for Conrad Murray and found this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1177173/
So maybe it IS a different Conrad???
Idk. Most likely. He's only been in two films and they are both UK films.

Yeah, I saw the imdb too...but why would wikipedia link the doctor to the actor if it's not the same person?The actor should have a wikipedia page with his credits too...that would make more sense..but then again..these days nothing makes sense

Wiki can be edited by anyone. It's not always accurate. And also, since there are only two films by "Conrad Murray" on IMDB (and pretty much any other film/acting site where you can find his name), there's likely just not enough info about the actor to have his own Wiki page...so they linked to the doc instead (they'll get more traffic from Google that way). That's my theory anyway.
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Post by LizzieBee Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:08 pm

Christiana wrote:
bibi wrote:
LizzieBee wrote:But wait! So I use this site to look up actors etc. And I searched for Conrad Murray and found this: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1177173/
So maybe it IS a different Conrad???
Idk. Most likely. He's only been in two films and they are both UK films.

Yeah, I saw the imdb too...but why would wikipedia link the doctor to the actor if it's not the same person?The actor should have a wikipedia page with his credits too...that would make more sense..but then again..these days nothing makes sense

Wiki can be edited by anyone. It's not always accurate. And also, since there are only two films by "Conrad Murray" on IMDB (and pretty much any other film/acting site where you can find his name), there's likely just not enough info about the actor to have his own Wiki page...so they linked to the doc instead (they'll get more traffic from Google that way). That's my theory anyway.

Yeah. That's what I was thinking also. Smile
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Post by Grace Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:06 am

Coming back to some interesting stuff:

http://telebisyon.net/The-Court-of-Last-Resort/series/episodyo/

http://ctva.biz/US/Legal/CourtOfLastResort.htm

CTVA Legal Drama "The Court of Last Resort" (Walden/Paisano/NBC) (1957-58) ...

1.07 [--] Court of Last Resort: THE CONRAD MURRAY CASE
DVD Volume 1 - Alpha Video ALP 5092D
15Nov57 NBC Fri
directed by Reginald Le Borg
Guest cast:
Vaughn Taylor .......... Conrad Murray
Carl Benton Reid ....... Warden Barrett
Stafford Repp .......... Richard Phillips
Alexander Lockwood ..... Everett Miles
Jeanne Bates ........... Mrs. Phillips
Synopsis:
After serving many years in prison for a double murder, Murray has
through his own efforts become an expert electrical engineer. Using this
knowledge he improves the prison's electrical system, saving the
taxpayers a fortune. The Court of Last Resort champions Murray as a completely
rehabilitated criminal and is in favor of granting him the parole thus
far denied him. [RF]
Synopsis 2:
Conrad Murray is up for parole after 34 years as an exemplary prisoner. [RF]

Credit goes to MariannaB and Denia on MJHD, search for these threads:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/murray-movie-of-unjustly-convicted-criminals-of-the-1940s-and-50s

I checked the Trinidad pages for Conrad Murray on google and found this (only in cache):
www.ttoffline.com/component/joomflix/movie.html%3Fid%3Dmovies%252F70050991+conrad+murray&cd=26&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://209.85.135.132/search?q.....&gl=de
The Court of Last Resort
(1957)
Staffed by the era's top law and criminology experts, "The Court of
Last Resort" attempted to expose the wrongly accused and unjustly
convicted criminals of the 1940s and '50s. Intervening where the
justice system was perceived to have failed, the series uncovered
actual cases for dramatic reenactment. This four-episode collection
from the crusading show features the trials of Clarence Redding, Conrad Murray, George Zaccho and Jacob Loveless.
Runtime: 102 mins.
Directors:
Reginald LeBorg
Cast:
Paul Birch
Lyle Bettger
Charles Meredith
Carleton Young
S. John Launer
John Maxwell

The actor in this #7 of 26 TV series broadcasted on Nov 15, 1957 "The Conrad Murray Case" acting as Conrad Murray was Vaughn Taylor.
Taylor was born on Feb 22, 1910 in Boston, Massachusetts and died on April 26, 1983, in Los Angeles, California
He acted as well in "Psycho", "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Jail House Rock" with Elvis.
Now tell me this is nothing.

Who was starring together with Vaughn Taylor in "Cat on a hot tin roof"?
Dame Elizabeth.
What was the story of this movie?
The family battle on the heritage of the "about to die" head of the family.
Vaughn Taylor also acted in "The Accused" 1966, "The Scarecrow" 1972, and "They Call It Murder" 1971

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/your-theories-about-michael-jacksons-death/tv-series-court-of-last-resort-the-conrad-murray-case-1957/

I just found something interesting concerning the old TV series "The
Court of Last Resort" from the 50's, created by writer Earle Stanley
Gardner who also created Perry Mason. Gardner was one of the founding
members of the Court of Last Resort (The Case Review Committee), an
association who reopened cases wherein a person might have been falsely
convicted.
On the basis of Gardner's association the American TV drama series
"The Court of Last Resort" was produced and aired on NBC in 1957/1958
for 26 episodes. The series centers on seven actual, real-life, crime
experts who examine cases in which there was a possibility that the
convicted person was innocent (wrongly accused or unjustly convicted),
even though circumstantial evidence and a jury's conviction was
contrary to the evidence.
One of the serie's episodes from 1957 is called "The Conrad Murray Case", and coincidentally it is episode No. 7!!!... Episode No.7? 34 years in prison (3+4=7)?
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Post by LizzieBee Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:12 am

Wow. This is fantastic! thank you dear.
Great clue!! Smile


Grace wrote:Coming back to some interesting stuff:

http://telebisyon.net/The-Court-of-Last-Resort/series/episodyo/

http://ctva.biz/US/Legal/CourtOfLastResort.htm

CTVA Legal Drama "The Court of Last Resort" (Walden/Paisano/NBC) (1957-58) ...

1.07 [--] Court of Last Resort: THE CONRAD MURRAY CASE
DVD Volume 1 - Alpha Video ALP 5092D
15Nov57 NBC Fri
directed by Reginald Le Borg
Guest cast:
Vaughn Taylor .......... Conrad Murray
Carl Benton Reid ....... Warden Barrett
Stafford Repp .......... Richard Phillips
Alexander Lockwood ..... Everett Miles
Jeanne Bates ........... Mrs. Phillips
Synopsis:
After serving many years in prison for a double murder, Murray has
through his own efforts become an expert electrical engineer. Using this
knowledge he improves the prison's electrical system, saving the
taxpayers a fortune. The Court of Last Resort champions Murray as a completely
rehabilitated criminal and is in favor of granting him the parole thus
far denied him. [RF]
Synopsis 2:
Conrad Murray is up for parole after 34 years as an exemplary prisoner. [RF]

Credit goes to MariannaB and Denia on MJHD, search for these threads:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/hoax-death/murray-movie-of-unjustly-convicted-criminals-of-the-1940s-and-50s

I checked the Trinidad pages for Conrad Murray on google and found this (only in cache):
www.ttoffline.com/component/joomflix/movie.html%3Fid%3Dmovies%252F70050991+conrad+murray&cd=26&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://209.85.135.132/search?q.....&gl=de
The Court of Last Resort
(1957)
Staffed by the era's top law and criminology experts, "The Court of
Last Resort" attempted to expose the wrongly accused and unjustly
convicted criminals of the 1940s and '50s. Intervening where the
justice system was perceived to have failed, the series uncovered
actual cases for dramatic reenactment. This four-episode collection
from the crusading show features the trials of Clarence Redding, Conrad Murray, George Zaccho and Jacob Loveless.
Runtime: 102 mins.
Directors:
Reginald LeBorg
Cast:
Paul Birch
Lyle Bettger
Charles Meredith
Carleton Young
S. John Launer
John Maxwell

The actor in this #7 of 26 TV series broadcasted on Nov 15, 1957 "The Conrad Murray Case" acting as Conrad Murray was Vaughn Taylor.
Taylor was born on Feb 22, 1910 in Boston, Massachusetts and died on April 26, 1983, in Los Angeles, California
He acted as well in "Psycho", "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Jail House Rock" with Elvis.
Now tell me this is nothing.

Who was starring together with Vaughn Taylor in "Cat on a hot tin roof"?
Dame Elizabeth.
What was the story of this movie?
The family battle on the heritage of the "about to die" head of the family.
Vaughn Taylor also acted in "The Accused" 1966, "The Scarecrow" 1972, and "They Call It Murder" 1971

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/?page_id=293/your-theories-about-michael-jacksons-death/tv-series-court-of-last-resort-the-conrad-murray-case-1957/

I just found something interesting concerning the old TV series "The
Court of Last Resort" from the 50's, created by writer Earle Stanley
Gardner who also created Perry Mason. Gardner was one of the founding
members of the Court of Last Resort (The Case Review Committee), an
association who reopened cases wherein a person might have been falsely
convicted.
On the basis of Gardner's association the American TV drama series
"The Court of Last Resort" was produced and aired on NBC in 1957/1958
for 26 episodes. The series centers on seven actual, real-life, crime
experts who examine cases in which there was a possibility that the
convicted person was innocent (wrongly accused or unjustly convicted),
even though circumstantial evidence and a jury's conviction was
contrary to the evidence.
One of the serie's episodes from 1957 is called "The Conrad Murray Case", and coincidentally it is episode No. 7!!!... Episode No.7? 34 years in prison (3+4=7)?
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Post by juliet Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:22 am

Wow, GRACE, the info is gooooood, really gooooood.
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Post by 4evermichael71 Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:00 am

@Grace-thanks for the great info! cheers
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Post by fa Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:49 am

I think we must watch the movie to see if this Conrad Murray is our Doctor!
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