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Post by See on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:30 pm

Human_nature wrote:oh ...look the adress from MJHD and thisisalsoit.com ....

Thisisalsoit:

15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

MJHD:

15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

That is the adress of Proxy Inc. the domian provider for both...
Can we find wich combany provides the domein for sonypictures???
And is it in any way connected to Proxy inc.?
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Yes Amy would have to own Sony.. that's my understanding
I'm discussing it more with him right now - if I learn anything I'll let you know!
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Post by mjssoulmate on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Human_nature wrote:I ask to someone who's great with that kind of thing.

He replied....

It's simple, Sony started MJHD......

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I don't know... or someone hacked Sony, but they need to be very very very good !!



That was my first thought. Remember The Game? I thought that MJHD was the Rabbithole in all of this.
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Post by Rach on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:35 pm

Ok pardon my french but this is a major mind f**k!!
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Post by Kirsche on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:35 pm

Holy Crap, So if Sony started MJHD, does that mean, these clues there are wrong and fake?? Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_eek


Or are they in the hoax and they're helping us with givin' clues ?? Would that make sense`?
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:36 pm

Ok pardon my french but this is a major mind f**k!!
Haha just a tad
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:37 pm

Holy Crap, So if Sony started MJHD, does that mean, these clues there are wrong and fake??


Or are they in the hoax and they're helping us with givin' clues ?? Would that make sense`?

I don't see why they'd waste time giving us fake clues.. I mean it's a major corporation - why would they care what us 'crazys' think?
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:37 pm

This is all marketing...............

Idk what to think anymore...

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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:37 pm

Money, marketing, sales...this is it Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_mad
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Post by See on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:38 pm

Here is an explanation on how to automatically rederect a page:
http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_automatically_redirect_one_web_page_to_another.html

One common approach is to create a CNAME record. It's similar to an A record except that it says, in effect, "this domain is really that domain". The "catch" if you want to call it that, is that the web server that will eventually serve up pages for this domain must know about it.

I don't under stand it but this stood out for me!!!!!!
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Post by MJhunny on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:39 pm

Amy Pascal sony bigwig just another Amy...
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Post by Kirsche on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:40 pm

What a Crap!!! Lucky that my registration never worked there!
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Post by Kirsche on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:41 pm

Amy Pascal (born 1958) is Co-Chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc. (SPE) and Chairman of SPE's Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group.
She oversees all development, production and marketing activities at
Columbia Pictures. She was listed as number one on the 15th annual
Women in Entertainment Power 100 list published in 2006 by the Hollywood Reporter.
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:41 pm

They play with us!

And it's work....

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Post by See on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:42 pm

YOu know if this is true...Sony is marketing the movies by MJDH forum and all....
It means we are being FED a HOAX......So it would mean there is no HOAX Sony wants us to believe there is so they can maket/sell more MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:42 pm

So you're saying we have nothing here?
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Post by Rach on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:43 pm

MJhunny wrote:Amy Pascal sony bigwig just another Amy...

So Amy Pascal = Amy Sampson?
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:44 pm

I get marketing and all that..
I just don't know how I feel about it being Sony that created this idea that MJ is alive and is coming up with all this info. Seems like a pretty extreme thing to do for such a major corporation
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Post by Grace on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:45 pm

I had posted this on the other thread:
can we agree to use this one further?

OK folks, I thought the explanation for this
redirection phenomenon was simple. NO need to worry - I thought.
Internet is technical and technical stuff may fail. But everything that
is technical has a logical explanation after all. My best guess was
that the following happened.
xxxx is being hosted on a server (which
is a bigger PC than a desktop but still a PC). The server belongs to a
server center of godaddy.com in Arizona.

If you look at the whois of thisisalsoit.com, www.domaintools.com says this:




ThisIsalSoit.com Whois Record



( This Isal Soit )

Change Word Breaks





Whois Record





Registrant Search:

"Domains by Proxy, Inc."
was found in about 8,266,838 other domains




NS History:


1 change

on

2
unique name
servers over

0
year.



Whois History:


3 records

have been archived
since
2009-10-30 .



Reverse IP:


5,272,026 other
sites

hosted on this server.

If you look at the whois of xxxx, www.domaintools.com says this:
Whois Record






























Registrant Search:

"Domains by Proxy, Inc."
was found in about 8,266,838 other domains




Registrar History:


1 registrar




NS History:


2 changes

on

3
unique name
servers over

0
year.



IP History:


1 change

on

2
unique name servers over

0 years.



Whois History:


102 records

have been archived
since
2009-06-27 .



Reverse IP:


5,855 other
sites

hosted on this server.






What do we conclude of the above technical chinese?
1)
a website is never alone but has a lot of other website pals on the
same server. Like you have a lot of files on your desktop.
2) thisisalsoit.com has currently
5,272,026 other
sites

in his close neighbourhood - which means that the server may be
confused sometimes which file to sort out to get you where you want to
go. (This happens indeed and sometimes even databases of different
domains are being mixed up - which is a hell of a disaster for any web
admin, especially if the content of your site is about flower
decoration and the one of the other is adult stuff.)
3) xxxx is a lot larger than any new registered domain and has only
5,855 other
sites
on the same server.
4)
When a new domain is being registered, it is being parked somewhere as
it does not require much space. So maybe it was filed temporarily on
the server that serves xxxx - my assumption

Now comes the strange part:

When
I first typed the thisisalsoit.com, I did not get redirected to xxxx
but to thisisit-movie.com which belongs to Sony and IS NOT located at
any server of godaddy and is not a private site.
The URL redirecting me here is "thisisalsoit.com" typed into the browser.

Now at a second try I got redirected to the trailer of 2012 http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/
The URL redirecting me here is "http://www.thisisalsoit.com" typed into the browser.

I rechecked the whois of thisisalsoit.com and found this:



We have 3 historical whois records for Thisisalsoit.com.

Here is a complete list of dates that we have whois records for.



Dates in red are privacy protected.



Upgrade your membership to view the historical whois records!






2009
2009-10-30
2009-10-31
2009-11-01
And on another site we know well there is a similar pattern to change the whois on a daily basis:









We have 102 historical whois records for xxxx
Here is a complete list of dates that we have whois records for.



Dates in red are privacy protected.



2009
2009-06-27
2009-06-28
2009-06-30
2009-07-08
2009-07-13
2009-07-14
.....

2009-10-29
2009-10-30
2009-10-31
2009-11-01

So
if we assume that the redirection pattern would indicate that Sony had
registered the site thisisalsoit.com I would not be astonished about
that. It is common to register similar domains to the main domain for
typo and marketing reasons. Just that the domains discussed above and
the target redirection Sony domains are sitting on different registrar
and hosting services. Huh ?

Why would a company like Sony
register a marketing and redirecting domain with a registrar that does
private domains? Or why would a private registrar redirect to a
company's domain?

Further we read on the whois registry the strange wording of
( This Isal Soit )



We look for Isal in the web and get this e.g.:
International
Society of Artificial Life



Portal with information on conferences, publications, and activities of the society. ... Welcome to the site of the International Society of Artificial Life (ISAL) ...
www.alife.org








We look for Soit in the web and get this:






SOIT (stay only if temporary) (Company)

SOIT is a Brussels based contemporary dance company founded in 2002 by Hans Van Den Broeck, who is also director (cinematography and video) and choreographer. The company's work blends dance, performance and video. Cie SOIT has participated in Ulti'mates, a project initiated bu Ultima Vez/Wim Vandekeybus, since 2006.


And now folks, I am completely lost on this one.
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Post by LizzieBee on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:45 pm

Kirsche wrote:Amy Pascal (born 1958) is Co-Chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc. (SPE) and Chairman of SPE's Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group.
She oversees all development, production and marketing activities at
Columbia Pictures. She was listed as number one on the 15th annual
Women in Entertainment Power 100 list published in 2006 by the Hollywood Reporter.

Lol. Oh wow.
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Post by See on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:47 pm

lonelynation wrote:So you're saying we have nothing here?

I really feel sich right now...... Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_silent
But if this is real we have been Hoaxed by Sony instead of Michael.....
The clues we have look mostly planed... but by who???
To many mistakes in this hoax and there is something like organized chaos!!!!!!!
Are we the victums of a marketing hoax????????????????????????
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:47 pm

See wrote:YOu know if this is true...Sony is marketing the movies by MJDH forum and all....
It means we are being FED a HOAX......So it would mean there is no HOAX Sony wants us to believe there is so they can maket/sell more MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Kirsche on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:47 pm

I don't think it was Sony who created this idea. It was us still us, who created this idea because his "death" is weird, the whole story about his death is weird..that's why we began this investigations, right??! So, don't lose hope, please!
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Post by Rach on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:48 pm

@ See

I don't believe Sony are behind this. They cannot control all the holes in this case regarding the family, the coroners reports, the clues in TII etc etc. Too much of this has been planned and shown to us by MICHAEL.
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:48 pm

well..I don't know, but I feel..like the game is over now...

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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:51 pm

But if this is real we have been Hoaxed by Sony instead of Michael.....
The clues we have look mostly planed... but by who???
To many mistakes in this hoax and there is something like organized chaos!!!!!!!
Are we the victums of a marketing hoax????????????????????????

Honestly I didn't even think of it that way..
and now I went from extremely excited/interested, to horribly depressed.
That just can't be it, it cant Sad
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Post by MJJ Love on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:51 pm

If that is it, then, we have just been royally FORKED!

Oh GOD, if this turns out to be true, THEY ARE SOME MURDERERS THEN!
WTF!!!!!
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Post by Rach on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:52 pm

Human_nature wrote:well..I don't know, but I feel..like the game is over now...

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Don't give up Julie. Yes Sony could be behind MJHD and they are a massive corporation but they cannot control everything, including the families actions, the autopsy reports etc etc.

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Post by Kirsche on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:53 pm

that's a word!
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:53 pm

well..I don't know, but I feel..like the game is over now...
me too Sad

We have to do something drastic.
That's complete bull sh*t (pardon my french).

If this is true, we're just going to sit here and not do anything?
I don't think so.
Something needs to be done.
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Post by See on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:53 pm

I feel sick, I'm going to bed.....Just feel like I waited 4 months of my live....
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Post by MJonMyMind on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:54 pm

[quote="Rach"]I don't know guys but it is beyond weird.

Did anyone else get the trailer for "2012" when they went to see TII? That also ties in with the movie.[/quote

Rach I think that is a very possible tie with TII

It would suit MJ perfectley dont you think?
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:56 pm

Even if Sony is behind this.. I'm still not stopping.
If MJ is dead, someone needs to pay and until there is a conclusion to all this, I'm not stopping.
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Post by MJhunny on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:58 pm

Rach wrote:
MJhunny wrote:Amy Pascal sony bigwig just another Amy...

So Amy Pascal = Amy Sampson?

no i don't believe that, it's just a coincidence imo
i hate seeing people here mindfxxcked with and i think thats what's going on
but i don't believe it's sony doing the mindfxxcking
no way no how could they be behind this feeding us a hoax for monetary reasons
i mean honestly we're not such a large group of people that we'd be worth the bother in their eyes...
just stay focused on all we've discovered so far
somethings gotta give soon I CAN FEEEEEEL IT KEEP THE FAITHxxxxxxx
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:59 pm

@Rach

I really want ..but now I'm so tired, I feel sad, I feel...I don't know, it's indescribable....

@lonelynation

Be sure we will do something and Sony will be TERMINATED ! We will do what Michael wanted to do , together !

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Post by MJonMyMind on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:59 pm

I think its about $$$$.... maybe the big players are doing this on purpose

and MJDH forum is the bait !!! Its a way for us to be fooled into

spending money to see movies that just maybe are connected to MJ

but in reality maybe there not !!!!! Silly I know but very possible Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_sunny
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:59 pm

I smell a hacker, but that's jmo
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Post by LizzieBee on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:00 pm

You know what. This is just...mind boggling. I have to go put Christian(my toddler brother) down for a nap now. Smile But I still have faith. I don't think this is over...not yet. Nope. And remember why we're here you guys. We're here because we are Michael Jackson fans and we KNOW that everything with Michael is always complicated. He didn't just die. No...there's something that isn't right with his whole 'death.' It hasn't been right since the day we found out. This isn't simple...it's very complex. But I have faith that he IS ALIVE. And there is so much evidence. Don't lose hope now. Ch'mon. Lift yourself...hehe. Everything is going to be alright. God bless! <3 I'll be back soon. Smile
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Post by Rach on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:01 pm

MJhunny wrote:no i don't believe that, it's just a coincidence imo
i hate seeing people here mindfxxcked with and i think thats what's going on
but i don't believe it's sony doing the mindfxxcking
no way no how could they be behind this feeding us a hoax for monetary reasons
i mean honestly we're not such a large group of people that we'd be worth the bother in their eyes...
just stay focused on all we've discovered so far
somethings gotta give soon I CAN FEEEEEEL IT KEEP THE FAITHxxxxxxx

I agree with you 100%!

I don't think Sony is behind this either, but someone has more time on their hands then they know what to do with.

Yes, Sony is a massive corporation but they can't control everything. Not even Michael's "death".
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:02 pm

lonelynation wrote:Even if Sony is behind this.. I'm still not stopping.
If MJ is dead, someone needs to pay and until there is a conclusion to all this, I'm not stopping.

I'm with you! And I will always do everything I can for Michael.

Now, it's not just T. Mottola, but Sony ...we'll not stop until they are terminated (it's what Michael says about Mottola)
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Post by lonelynation on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:02 pm

To hack into Sony's website.. I mean really you'd have to be top dog in that area to do that.

If we can ever figure out if Sony is in fact behind this.. they need to be taken down. This is just cruel. MJ was right.
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:03 pm

Sony are big enough to control all informations.
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Post by MJonMyMind on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:04 pm

Human_nature wrote:@Rach

I really want ..but now I'm so tired, I feel sad, I feel...I don't know, it's indescribable....

@lonelynation

Be sure we will do something and Sony will be TERMINATED ! We will do what Michael wanted to do , together !

I'm so arg.... Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_mad Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_mad right now....

Keep the faith girl , you know why? becasue if you give up, They the bad ones win !!!!

Dont give them the satisfaction!!!!! Also remember this is about MJ not some media

company trying to feed us bull @@@t all the time!!!. Stand proud and fight for
the truth for MJ...He needs everyone of us right now!!!

he cant do this alone Im sure Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_sunny
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Post by 4evermichael71 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:05 pm

Well just in case I asked my ex boyfriend who is top dog in travel tech at Amex and a part time amateur hacker. I didn't give him the specifics but I want to see if it can be done.
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Post by LizzieBee on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:05 pm

MJhunny wrote:
Rach wrote:
MJhunny wrote:Amy Pascal sony bigwig just another Amy...

So Amy Pascal = Amy Sampson?

no i don't believe that, it's just a coincidence imo
i hate seeing people here mindfxxcked with and i think thats what's going on
but i don't believe it's sony doing the mindfxxcking
no way no how could they be behind this feeding us a hoax for monetary reasons
i mean honestly we're not such a large group of people that we'd be worth the bother in their eyes...
just stay focused on all we've discovered so far
somethings gotta give soon I CAN FEEEEEEL IT KEEP THE FAITHxxxxxxx

I couldn't agree more. Smile
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:05 pm

My Twitter account here ok :

http://twitter.com/Julie_Justme

If you don't have Twitter, tell me, I now have Facebook and MySpace
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Post by Peace on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:05 pm

There's no way Sony is behind MJHD! You don't think they have better ways to spend their time? What would they be getting out of this? Would they really need donations? LOL


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Post by Grace on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:06 pm

IF Sony is behind our homebase where we came from (and happily have found this place here), this could be for several reasons.

E.g. that they were so much forked by Michael that they did not know better than to put all the world together in a forum in order to find out HOW and WHY he did it?

If Michael outthought them, they are indeed so helpless because they don't know him. And yes, then we would have helped them during the last 4 months.

BUT:
They did not find him even with our knowledge.
We always knew the truth will prevail and it will.

And Columbia pictures is only distributor and not production company.
Production company and holding all rights to the movie is MJJ.

Don't let yourself get depressed.
Everything we saw is indicating that this was staged and Michael told us so many times that he is doing well.

beLIEve. L.O.V.E.

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Post by MJonMyMind on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:07 pm

Rach wrote:
MJhunny wrote:no i don't believe that, it's just a coincidence imo
i hate seeing people here mindfxxcked with and i think thats what's going on
but i don't believe it's sony doing the mindfxxcking
no way no how could they be behind this feeding us a hoax for monetary reasons
i mean honestly we're not such a large group of people that we'd be worth the bother in their eyes...
just stay focused on all we've discovered so far
somethings gotta give soon I CAN FEEEEEEL IT KEEP THE FAITHxxxxxxx

I agree with you 100%!

I don't think Sony is behind this either, but someone has more time on their hands then they know what to do with.

Yes, Sony is a massive corporation but they can't control everything. Not even Michael's "death".

Dont bet on it !!!!! Evil is Evil after all Rach Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_twisted
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Post by Human_nature on Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:07 pm

MJonMyMind wrote:
Human_nature wrote:@Rach

I really want ..but now I'm so tired, I feel sad, I feel...I don't know, it's indescribable....

@lonelynation

Be sure we will do something and Sony will be TERMINATED ! We will do what Michael wanted to do , together !

I'm so arg.... Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_mad Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_mad right now....

Keep the faith girl , you know why? becasue if you give up, They the bad ones win !!!!

Dont give them the satisfaction!!!!! Also remember this is about MJ not some media

company trying to feed us bull @@@t all the time!!!. Stand proud and fight for
the truth for MJ...He needs everyone of us right now!!!

he cant do this alone Im sure Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Icon_sunny

I don't give up. But I will explore some other...things....
Sad things, but I want to know the truth, and I will never give up, no matter what happened that day (June 25, 2009).....

But I'm sad now, and angry.... Just what is going on with www.thisisalsoit.com? - Page 2 Kopfschuettel
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